I was 20 when I graduated directly from a 1964 150cc Lambretta scooter to a brand new 1968 Triumph Bonneville. It cost me £485 at the time. I was blown away with the power and style. Above all else I was impressed how much safer it was to ride than was the scooter, power, stability, braking. It was about that year Bonnevilles adopted twin leading shoe front brakes, a vast improvement in stopping power. I rode that bike all over England, Scotland and as far off as Italy on one trip before parting with it to get married. It turned heads everywhere it went, especially in Italy. Like you, Jay, I am nostalgic for that bike. I went on to become a London speed cop riding Triumph Saints, the police version of the Triumph 650cc Trophy, itself the single carb version of the Bonneville. Those were great times, great motorcycles. Your love of the Bonneville must surely be half nostalgia, half knowing it's a real motorcycle. Those mufflers were, to me, the epitome of what a motorcycle muffler should look like, something that could be said for the look of the whole machine. The size, lines, power, overall impression were ideal. For the time they were around, they were the absolute best. Thanks for taking me for a ride with you.
Agreed. I still own mine however I've begun "thinning the herd" and it's going to be listed soon for sale. Too many bikes in the stable and only so much riding time!
Yep... that's what a 'motorcycle' looks like... no plastic... 2020 version of my 1997 Intruder still has that look (they call it "naked" now): img.letgo.com/images/7f/51/9d/dd/7f519ddd160fcfd2137f2386b9cb199e.jpg
There is episode of Gas Monkey Garage I think where when business is slow he gives his guys some different motorcycles to clean up and then take to auction. One was a nice stock Triumph like this and it went for the most money. More than the Harley’s.
Muchas gracias por hacernos recordar los tiempos gloriosos de las motocicletas inglesas y de Triumph en particular. Para los fanáticos de ello hoy día Triumph sigue vigente con su magnífica Bonneville....pero oohhh sorpresa: sí existe una versión moderna de su T100, con todos los adelantos modernos pero fiel a su esencia, me refiero a la W800. En lo personal, cada vez que la uso, vuelvo con una gran sonrisa.
I'm now 81, mostly blind and deaf, had the love of my life 1962 BSA Super Rocket and stupidly sold it and bought th3 Bonneville you have. I was in last two years of college in Virginia, took the BSA to 120 and can verify it and the Bonneville would hit that. They were the pinnacle as you say, and I was blessed to have had them. Was a premed student. failed first semester organic chemistry and that eliminated me going to medical school, avoiding Nam. Cloudy, cold, spitting rain, early spring afternoon, road by the lab and looked up to see the guys with test tubes through the windows, took a deep breath, said "screw" it (medical school), twisted the throttle and went on with my life, didn't do bad as a businessman. Anyway, Jay, loved this video and agreed with everything you said, just wish I could go back and be 21 again, ride like the wind on those two bikes.
I'm an old guy (age 70), a former journalist who came out of retirement a couple of years ago to sell motorcycles -- specifically, BMWs. Now I love the new Beemers. They are marvels of advanced mechanical (and electronic) technology. They're terrific to ride -- smooth, powerful, ultra-reliable. I cannot deny their excellence. In fact, it's difficult to deny the excellence of nearly every modern motorcycle. It's difficult, if not impossible, to buy a bad one these days. Yet, my daily rider is a 1970 Triumph T100R Daytona; a 500cc parallel twin closely related to the pre oil-in-frame Bonnies, like Jay's. The little Daytona is an absolute joy -- spry, nimble, quick (but not beastly) and, for whatever reason, more fun than my 193 hp 2010 BMW S1000RR, the superbike of superbikes. So, is it nostalgia that moves me to enjoy the little Triumph so much? Probably -- in part. But, it's also the purity of the motorcycling experience the Daytona offers. It's just rider and machine without electronic intervention, without taming, without sanitation. Riding the old girl is a visceral thing that simply cannot be replicated by modern machinery. Are the new bikes better? Of course they are -- technologically. But, for pure, raw, unmolested enjoyment, Jay's Bonnie and my Daytona cannot be bettered. So say I!
i had a t100 c high pipes c meaning compatition for off road single carb i was followed 1 day by a biker he cauht up an says u got any cilinder heads we got frendly and he wanted me to follow him to his home shed an he had a stack of heads on the bench all were cracked between the valve seats he had the daytona 500 twin carb so i would go 1 carb if i was u it dont lose much power and stays in tune easyer no balacing to go out maybe my bike had lower compression pistons too wich helps alot lastly i crashed into a car the forks were bent as far as posible the wheel was totally strait an true lol them heavy spokes on the c models over kill strong
There is a lot to be said for a simple, good handling light weight bike that looks great machinewise. Not plastic coverwise. Classic English bikes like this are the two wheeled version of the classic English sportscar like the MGB or Austin Healy and the ilk.
"You're not going to get Leno by offering him any money. You gotta give him something he would really want" American media needs more Jay Leno's. Glad he's still producing quality material! What a guy
I’m 65 yrs old from England but have lived most of my life in the USA , always love the Bonnie’s but never owned one until now , and I’m thrilled to bits , thanks Jay for that video , very inspiring indeed
Perfect! Thanks for the ride down memory lane! I had two Bonnies, a '67 and a '70; both were the epitome of British motorcycles. My old snortin' Norton was a cool bike but didn't compare to the Bonnies. I'm 72 and still riding, but I look at old Triumphs on the internet every night after Momma goes to bed. They STILL do it for me! Long live the Bonneville...
+Patrick Boyle I agree on this Bonnie video too, The Vincent Black Shadow he is also right up there- I know that feeling personally. Also the happiest moment when he was featuring the 32 Pursang Monza which belongs to my friend and neighbor
Jay, during the 60's and 70's in the UK we had a motorcycle club called The Toddington & District MCC. I had a BSA 250 C11G, a 350 single Matchless and ended up with a 650 Bonneville the best bike ever. To this day we still meet three times a week after 51 years some still riding bikes and talk about the old times when we went racing, trialing, and marshalling at various events around the UK. We cry in our beers at the bikes we had and sold for a song knowing what they would be worth now. Even today on 21 Aug 2019 some of the lads went on a club run riding flashy foreign things but it's not the same as the old un's. We might all be in our late 60's and early 70's but are still friends and it's all down to the humble motorcycle.
I know exactly what you mean about the crazy prices bikes are going for today. I had a BSA C11 which I bought for £2. A Triumph speed twin I bought from Kings for £20. A Triumph T110 I bought for £20. The list goes on and on. I have to say though it’s looking at them through rose tinted glasses. None of them you could say were reliable, they left a Pool of oil wherever you stopped but people of our age now have the cash and that’s driven the prices sky high. I’ve got a Hayabusa which I’ve had from new. 44000 miles never let me down beautiful condition and worth less than a 125 bantam.. Crazy times.
I’m 68 years old, I bought a 69 Triumph Tiger 650. It was sitting for decades near the San Diego area. It’s all original to all the bolts and Philips head case screws. It’s a nice original Red Orange paint with sun bleached tank and fenders, I cleaned it up, waxed it and it looks beautiful. No rust in the tank, but I had the gators and shocks rebuilt, and new brakes and tires. Runs just fine. I hadn’t ridden a motorcycle since I was 24 years old. So I’m starting all over. I took a motorcycle class and I have been enjoying riding on quiet streets and parking lots. The handling is just amazing, so easy to ride. To the Englishman in the original comment. It’s never to late to buy a nice 60’s English bike. I got this one for as much as a new Triumph “Street Twin”, which is a super nice modern retro bike. Cheers mate!
I always remember taking my friend's 1966 Triumph Bonneville 650 for a ride. Lots of fun. I kept the 1970 Norton 750 Commando that I bought in 1973. Still ride it to this day. Great bike. Sounds great, and a real love affair.
Jay, I am a young old guy at 44. The first bike I ever touched was my fathers 1949 Triumph Chopper. I was bitten by the bug and now I own 11 Old Triumphs from 1951 to 1970. These old bikes hold a dear place in my heart and I totally agree as they are such a joy to ride.
Are the vintage triumphs relatively reliable? I’m thinking of when they went to left foot shifting, sometime in the 70’s. I just can’t stand how big and heavy modern motorcycles are. Which year would you recommend?
Loved your tour of your 64 Bonneville. It brings back great memories. I had a 68 & 69 Bonneville that I purchased new from the factory in Coventry, England in their “overseas delivery plan” which included purchase, registration for the summer and shipping home. I saved up for a year working two jobs and planked down the $864.00 in a check to the company in the spring of “68” then flew over on a charter plane with Simmons, Wheelock and Emanuel Colleges to pick her up at a dealer in Brixton Hill. I drove her all through Europe that summer then flew home. The bike was shipped buy boat that fall under the same $864.00 & arrived in Boston that winter. In the following spring of “69” I sold her as a used bike for $1000.00 and did it all over again and bought the “69”. The ride is definitely great but it’s the memories that go with it that make all the difference. It’s funny, but I still have dreams every once in a while about my “68 Bonneville” , that I still have it and it’s parked somewhere in the neighborhood but I can’t find it.
@@johnzenkin1344 - First time I saw a white 805cc Intruder I fell in love with them... but then I saw the candy apple red one... it was all over... I immediately bought one... doesn't hurt that, despite being just a 'cruiser', it's effortlessly faster than a Bonneville, not too heavy, no chains/belts, and infinitely more reliable, as well...
Jay I enjoyed your story on your Bonneville I came across my 66 Bonny in pieces.3 big boxes of parts.The owner gave up.I went got the shop manual and checked over all the wore out parts.Went to the dealer and got all the parts and made this great bike a trail bike/Hill climb bike.Little did i know 66 was a race engine 11-1 pistons.This thing would climb a telephone pole if i could hang on.Set the timing @ 38 degrees and this thing could rip tree stumps out of the ground. Sorry i never had it street legal.
A rider of over 50 years and I think my '66 Triumph T100s gives me the biggest smile. It may sound cliche, but it really does have a soul that my other bikes never came close to having. I like to think it's some kind of ancient spirit that got tangled up in the motorcycle industry there.
I am 75 years old and I have been riding since I was 10. A Cushman 46. I have owned almost as many motorcycles as I am old. If I listed my top ten, two of them would be Triumph bikes. The first one would be the Tiger Cub T 20. The next one would be the 1967 TR6, the single carb 650. They hold the same love now as ever, except for the rectifiers. LOL. I really like your show and I am a big fan. Ride on my friend.
I'm 21 years old and love motorcycling with a passion. I've thankfully been blessed to have ridden lots of different bikes at a young age, rockets, harleys, and elegant british twins/thumpers. And I would take a vintage bonneville or vincent or etc. over the nicest, most expensive ducati or harley from this era any day. And I speak for a lot of young people
IMO, the british bikes that were pre unit construction were more reliable mechanically. Reason, well gearboxes give less trouble when they have clean thicker gearbox oil as it was in pre-unit engines and gearboxes. When they changed to unit construction, engine and gearbox ran in the same oil 20/50 multigrade oil available in those days and of course it being engine oil, it got dirty. Also the british bikes leaked oil and the electrics were unreliable. Clutches were poor as well.
Well, Jay can't help much with your question. However, I have ridden thousands upon thousands of miles on 4 different Japanese made bikes and 2 American made bikes but the best handling and most satisfying to me were my 2 Triumph motorcycles. One was a 250,it was okay, but not enough power for me. The other was a 650 Bonneville and oh man. What a sweet running and handling bike. Course,to the punchline, I am 72 and both Triumphs were late 60's and both were bought new. I still ride and I still say,nothing today was like those TRIUMPHS I had . Nostalgia, maybe, but still they were SWEET.
I'm retired now but this reminds me of the time my best friend in High School begged his brother who was in college to let him take Triumph 500 for a ride one freezing cold November afternoon in Denver Colorado. Ron stopped by my house to get me as a witness and we headed for the interstate hwy. We headed down the highway with no crash helmets. I was hanging on for dear life and the tears streaming from our eyes were freezing on our cheeks. I happened to look down at the ground and I saw the rear axle nut was completely loose and vibrating back and forth. We took the next exit very slowly and eased our way back home. What an exciting ride. I will never forget it. Thanks for taking us along Jay.
I've bought my first Bonneville about 10 days ago and I only started 2 years ago but the Bonneville I fell in love with it at first sight. It oozes class and the mix of modern and old skool for me is perfection.
My father has owned 3 different motorcycles since I was a kid. He had a 40' crocker, 70' Harley Sportster and a 64' Bonneville. He sold the Crocker when I was around 8 the Harley my uncle wrecked, and the Bonneville my dad kept and kept well. He got it after he originally got out of the military and got the Harley and the Bonneville with the help of my grandfather. When I turned the age of reason (18) my dad helped me get my license and showed me what he knew about bikes. Everything and anything until he felt confident that I could go on a long ride without having issues doing emergency repairs. I own a 2017 Triumph Bonneville and have ridden my fathers as well. I like MY Triumph more than my dads but that's just because it's mine. In terms of appearance the Bonneville is an all time fave. To answer your question it's not just nostalgia. Their minimalist approach to design, the sleek shape, a lot of modern bikes lack that special touch that the true vintage classics have. That being said though, my dad still has his bike and we ride every once and awhile and his bike is still a beast lol
Jay, this maybe one of your best from Jay Leno's Garage. Your passion for the English motorcycles shines and honestly after watching this episode, I wanted one. I'm 63 and have own a Norton Commando 750 "S" since I was 17, I've always kept it running. Never wanted to do anything w/ it except keep it as it came from the factory more or less ( well ok I changed it over to a Boyer electronic ignition and put on a later model 's front disc break but a friend made a wooden case a gave it to as a even swap . The tinker w/ it with a old friend and switching them was just something we did one afternoon. That's what came through in this episode but the one you did on your Norton 650 SS delivered the same vibe. My son who is 26 has a beautiful 2014 Honda 700 something or other. Loves my Norton but has never really asked to drive it. I told him when he was a teenager, when you can kick it over just let me know when you want to take out. There is just something about those bikes.
I enjoyed the video Jay Leno explained the Bike very well easy to ride simple to maintain nothing complicated . Take the tank off 4 bolts and every thing was accessible. Thanks Jay.
I'm in my 70's now but in high school ...I rode a Triumph 650...so to your feelings about motorcycles I can only say Amen... this IS the Pinnacle of looks and function for bikes to this day...it never got any better before or after
I'm 37 and grew up learning to ride on vintage Triumphs since I was 14. My father just gifted me a 1969 TR6R, so I'm just browsing fun videos on them before I have a chance to get out and about on my new to me motorcycle. I've owned several Japanese sports bikes in the past, and rode some of my father's vintage HD's, but never hesitate to hop on an old Triumph above all.
My first Triumph was a 64 Tiger 650. Tickle the carb and she would fire on the second kick every time. It was 1971 and I was 17 and rode it to high school as a senior. Man was I cool! Still the best sound from those pea shooters. Priceless experience Jay. Now I ride a 650 scooter as an older guy. I’ve had 56 bikes over the years from 50cc to 2300cc. What a wonderful hobby God has blessed us with.☺️
I am new to the motorcycle world but I remember the Triumphs, the Norton's, the BSA's from high school (I am 60 yrs old). They were what appealed to me. I finally bought a motorcycle 4 years ago. A Royal Enfield 500 ( sorry, made in India) It had that fun, simple, very mechanical look to it. I have had so much fun with it.. I threw a sidecar on it and love riding the country roads here in Oregon. I am looking to a larger bike, and to be honest, the only one that appeals to me is the Triumph T -100 for the same reason the Enfield appealed. The colour scheme on your Bonnie is wonderful.
Jay thanks so so much for posting old part now still riding but started riding on 68th drive Bonneville stainless steel fenders to me still most beautiful bike ever made
The shoe. The other day I was riding down the road and saw a guy walking and wearing only one shoe. It looked exactly like that shoe in the video. I said hey buddy, did you lose a shoe. He said "no, I found one".
I have had a number of motorcycles... I found that I always go back to a classic British Bike. Some days they don't want to run.. Some days they run so very well.. They shake... They vibrate... But they are real... Real soul.. Real character.. Real beauty.. Every part, has shape.... The shape of Art....
my last British bike was a b. s. a. gold flash 650cc vertical twin before that i had trumph tiger110 both beautiful bikes both burgess silencers straight through what a great sound wish i had them now memories will never forget.
When I started my working career, it was at a Triumph dealership. 1963 was the year that I began my love for bikes and the Triumph was always the one everyone wanted. I think the styling is the thing that brings everyone to it.
I'm from Coventry - born and bred. The Triumph factory was just outside the city in Meriden. My Mums still near the old Browns Lane Jaguar plant wheres some of my family worked.. The 60's really were the pinnacle - theres a hill that runs from the Meriden works down in to Meriden village - Test riders and drivers used to race each other up the hill - Bonneville against E-Types' etc. Our glory days of engineering at its best.
Hi Jay, I bought a Triumph Bonneville back in 1964. I was a freshman in college and bought a 1959 model. I L-O-V-E-D that bike. It was sort of my "coming out to Life." Here I was a freshman in college, and had freedom for the first time in my Life, and I bought this bike and rode it all over. What a fun time I had. Back then I never wore a helmet. and never wore any type of goggles. And I must say that there were quite a few times I had it up over 100 miles per hour. Ah, those days. Now, I am a retired Surgeon, glad to be alive, and still very nostalgically remembering that beautiful motorcycle. P.S. I am even considering buying another "retro" Triumph Bonneville. But now I will hear a helmet and goggles. Thanks you for your nice presentation. Dr. George Whitehead
+goodfella21f I don't know much about Honda motorcycles, all 3 of my Triumphs had Norton 850 engines which had around 60 hp, which maybe fairly close to a Honda Shadow.
I've got two words for you: "The Fonz." OK, now name one cool person who's ridden a Honda Shadow... (crickets) I used to own a Shadow Spirit 750 and loved it, but I eventually sold it, and I wound up with a 2013 Bonneville. The Bonneville is an improvement over the Honda in EVERY way except the seat comfort on long rides (just get the British Customs gel seat and problem solved). The Bonnie has got more HP for two-up riding, better braking, and MUCH better handling than the Shadow. Both are good bikes, don't get me wrong, but you will be much more satisfied with the Bonneville in the long run.
In 19'69 I bought a 1964 650 BSA Thunderbolt. My buddy had a 1959 Triumph 650. I've been riding bikes for 50 years now and I can honestly say that my Brit-bike era was the most memorial. England put the 'motor' in motorcycle.
It's not just because you're an older guy. There's a tangible difference between riding a high performance machine with all the modern bells and whistles, and riding a simple, honest to God, down to business motorcycle. There's an honesty to simpler bikes that I find very appealing. It really is motorcycling stripped of all non-essentials down to its purest form. So I say bless the simple bikes. We need more of them.
+Orion Slaver i recently got a 2015 bonneville and was so relieved to be able to get one before the new 2016 models with all their bells and whistles. you hit the nail on the head.
and that's why i bought a '79 T140D Special Edition for my first bike... I wanted something simple, honest, true natured and a traditional motorcycle all around. And yeah.. she turns heads. And drops panties...
Thank You Jay ! I was stationed at Camp Pendleton when I cam back to the world, in 1963. I had a 1955 Ford Convertible and a 1963 TR-6 Trophy. I road that bike (like) for ever. Your ride really brought back memories, well I want to think you again, and you are to be commended for what you do with your videos. At 77 years young we still ride my 1974 BMW R90S, plus a 1992 Harley FLSTC with a Liberty sidecar with over 1,000,000 miles on it. Jay ! Keep working on staying young at heart !
Just got my first bike. Age 50. 2013 Bonneville T100. Seeing how much it looks like that great bike you have makes me love mine even more. Glad I saw this video.
When Triumph was riding by Edward Turner his his motto is 20,000 miles off the line my boy if Triumph had not been bought by TSA we would still have Triumph making the bikes that they always made thanks you're always regretted having to sell Triumph because of the death duties this is what shankster said when he sold it to BSA
Edgewood Turner made his own 350 race bike from his own little motorcycle shop in England before he went to work for the big manufacturer before he made the Triumph twin he made the Ariel Square Four another legendary motorcycle Turner was a real motorcycle enthusiast when he retired the single-minded purpose of building good bikes went down the road
My 65 Triumph TR6 the double leading shoe brakes Burn Rubber stopping you can upgrade the brakes on that bike real easy by just changing the plate drum brakes are so Superior to disc brakes only became on production bikes because of racing regulations Suzuki brakes didn't work worth a crap in the rain and they would give you a sticker saying be careful in the wet
I graduated from high school in 1969. I had a Honda 305 Super Hawk, but the ultimate bike to have at that time was the Triumph Bonneville. Pure classic motorcycle. I have a Triumph today ... finally! lol
Same here to you and the guys above .... I had a 305cc black Super Hawk in high school ( grad '68 ). I loved it but I salivated over my older brother's Bonnie .. with it's Burgundy and Grey tank w the parcel rack and the big wide and flat two toned black sided and grey top seat. WOW .... what a bike ... I really should get one from back then before it is too late to enjoy it. I have to add ... the Honda 450 Black Bomber which came out just as I got into owning cars ... was a beautiful machine as well ... to me classic level design and workmanship !
My dad Lex, is a big fan of yours. He is also a big Triumph fans as well. He has a 67 Triumph Bonneville, 52 Triumph Thunderbird and a 52? Triumph Tiger Cub? I may have the names wrong but I forward your channel over to him to watch. I wish I could add photos to show. I really enjoy watching your channel. I am 45 years old. I love the old cars. They are real classics. They have some of the best lines and character of any new car made. I restored a 69 Ford Bronco off the frame restoration. It was my first and hopefully not my last. Keep inspiring generations to love and appreciate cars and motorcycles. Thanks.
+Fred Miles yes it is. I had to go over to my dads yesterday to check. We started them all up and took them for a few rides around the block. Still getting use to the right side shifting.
In 1964, I purchased my Bonneville from Triumph of Burbank. I made delivery at the Coventry factory and commenced to spend the next six months bumming around Europe. I did about 11 countries and returned to Coventry to have the bike shipped back to Johnson Motors, who in turn notified my dealer. I got a call telling me that the bike was ready to be picked-up. I sold it around three or four years later (sniff). No problems at all during my ownership. Best ride I ever owned.
At 25, I think I count as a young guy. I've been riding since I was 18 and I've only been into vintage bikes, after having lessons on a modern Honda. I ride Moto Guzzi's and Royal Enfield. There's just something about the styling that really appeals to me. Apart from that they're, like you pointed out, not as stupidly fast as modern motorcycles are. When I rip up the throttle on my 500cc Enfield, it sounds and feels like it's going 100mph, while with 25bhp it's probably not. And then there's just the pure mechanical joy that these vintage bikes are. No plastic, no computers, no weird electronics... Just metal, grease and oil working. When something breaks, which on the Guzzi's doesnt but on the Enfield does, I can easily fix it. Gotta love it.
Jay: You and I go way back, to when I launched British Car & Bike Magazine and launched your career as a motorhead (JK...a little). The question you posed was a good one, and I think we all ask ourselves this if we're really in tune with our perceptions and our feelings. I can't speak for you but for me, the appeal of the older bikes like your 1964 Bonnie comes down to our connection with the machine. It's a relatively simple device, with linear responses to our inputs, and never exceeding our confidence to twist the throttle wide open (you do not do that on a modern GSX-WFO1600 without pausing first to assure yourself that your affairs are in order with the executor of your estate). These old British machines were the lathes, the presses, the anvils of the day. Predictable, approachable, and most importantly, an ideal match for the abilities of the average (and slightly above average-you know, the "Expert Rider" referred to in the decal) of the day. The truth is, you and I can wring the neck of a Bonnie or Atlas or Lightning and get the best of the machine. There's a visceral satisfaction there that's hard to articulate. Few of us can say the same of the modern machines that have exceeded our own skills and abilities in the way that modern fighter jets have exceeded their pilots' ability to fly them stick-and-rudder. I've spoken with guys who fly demilitarized jets who tell me that they much prefer their Stearman 75 biplane or Cessna 172 for sheer joy in the simplicity of the flying experience. They become one with the machine. So the answer is, there is a threshold at which we squishy humans can truly conquer our machines and feel in complete control...and beyond that, they control us. Perhaps we reached that perfect balance sometime in the 1960s....or perhaps-just maybe-we're getting old.
You are a amazing writer. Someone needed too put those words together. I wish it was me but, Im glad it was you. I, not in a million years could have written what you have, in the way you have. Very well done. Thank you
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 "Ill tell you something else. I jist learned that its not possible to copy and paste from you tube video comments." What like this?
I used to love myZ10. But I went for a ride on a friends RZ250. Immediately, you like the fact that you can get the most out of the package, which was only possible on the Zx10 twice in the years I owned it. People asked, 'how fast is that?' My reply was invariably the same: 'Very fast! But what goes through your mind all the time is not how fast you can go, but how much braking distance do I have'. Because you felt like any speed was possible and in most situations, top performance of that machine, is simply unattainable,
On further consideration, which is better though? The Zx10 by a long way. Better handling similar economy, better, reliability, comfort, brakes chassis and the list goes on. If the old stuff is so much better, we never would have replaced it. Even the retro styled bikes, are not pure to the older technology. The pilots enjoying the pure flying experience of their cesna's etc, would not choose them over a phantom jet, if they had to fly to keep a business appointment in Europe. So whilst the older bikes are cool, it's mostly just nostalgia.
Hi Jay. This is my first comment on your channel so I can I start be saying how privileged we are that you share your unique experience and insights of your collection so freely with us. Your restoration standards are inspiring. I have several bikes, but none with more than two cylinders. I like simple machines. In Europe we believe that the US design mantra is “if enough is just right then too much must be even better”. My equivalent run about is a 2006 (Chennai) Enfield Bullet 500 restyled to be a more exact replica of the 1955 design. For me, it is just as engaging as your Triumph and satisfying to ride and maintain, but only for local journeys. I think nostalgia comes into play when you say that long distances could be covered with ease on the bikes of the ‘60s. Are you sure the Bonnie could do an honest 120mph? I bet you would not want to do it on yours! If you do I hope you will consider wearing gloves.
She’s a beauty, no doubt about it, Jay. The simplicity, the ease of the roadside fix, the handling…the best. My first bike was a ‘70 Bonnie left on my doorstep by a friend from school who owed me some money at graduation. I spent the next couple of years on it, but then discovered the BMW rabbit hole, where I spent the next 48 years. As of ‘22, I’m back on a Triumph again. Not the same as the originals, but the handling, power, and reliability are amazing. I always have an eye out for an oldie, though! Thank you for this sweet look back!
Yes Jay they were a beautiful bike I had a 1969 Bonneville which was a ex cop bike I brought in 1971 at an auction I think I paid $500 dollars for it and yes you always had to go over it with a spanner quiet often. Don't forget Harley's in the sixties and seventies were junk as well and had all sorts of problems. To have one now I would have to take out a second mortgage to buy one. I have had so many bikes over the years Japanese and Harley's and I think as you get older you want to go back to something more simple and relaxing today's bikes are so fast out of the box they are scary. My brother had an R1 Yamaha and with a little tricking and a pipe got around 230 HP at the wheel where can you use that except on the track So may be it's an age thing where you just want to see and smell the roses and enjoy the ride. Cheers Dave
+David Cashin Take out that mortgage immediately. These bikes have an oil scent of their own, mark their territory in a most dignified manner, and is sure to add 5 to ten years to your life in order to make those payments. -gilpin 5-2-16
+David Cashin take out a?..... ur making me curious now lol Maybe take out a... gun and rob a bank? or Take out a mask and cover ur face and go steal one? or take out a tiger to eat the owner of a harley so u can say ur his friend and take it for urself? All the possibilities
I think the appeal is that its simple Jay. I was born the year before this was made and, like the Bonny, in England. I think we remember the simpler times with vehicles. As a lad I used to work on my uncles vintage cars all the time. These things could be fixed with the minimum of tools and it was actually a point of pride in being able to service your bike or car on the weekend back then. Likewise the more sophisticated vehicles have become, the safer, quieter and easier to use for me the life and soul have gone. I appreciate new vehicles but I would rather have an older vehicle even if it means less comfort or convenience and the chance it might break down as it becomes a relationship between me and the machine. New vehicles to me remove me so far from that. I really care not for modern sports cars. I would rather have a Frog Eyed Sprite that can barely break the speed limit than the modern equivalent that can easily do that. The most fun to be had is when a vehicle is near its limits and so a Frog Eyed Sprite or 2CV gives you as many thrills without ever chancing to break the law! Keep up the good work Jay and please, if your not wearing that Seiko anymore I would be a very willing recipient of it. I love watches! :) All the best to you. Ian.
Jay, it is one of the best looking bikes of all time. It's not just nostalgia. This, for me, is THE classic bike. I'm too young to be nostalgic about it.
Cool! Don't sell it, 500's are getting more rare every day. Top dollar for one is way up now proving what I said. I'm 62 and just finished rebuilding my 1970 Daytona the other day, I've had it since 1981 and it wasn't worth the 100.00 I paid for it! I had good connections then and built it for penny's on the dollar or it wouldn't have been possible, it was that bad! Today it's very near top condition with just a little touch of a flat tracker tossed in tastefully. I just got a 73' Tiger 650 I'm going to rebuild now, it was another great deal and don't need near as much as my 600 did, and it's completely original! It shows you have good taste that you're riding a Triumph for one, and the older it gets, the more you'll be glad you kept it. On any nice day you will see dozens of HD's but you'll be lucky if you spot even one vintage twin Triumph or BSA! I was around your age when I finally found my 500 and bought even though I was looking for a 40"er, but I'm glad I did and finally I've got the 650 , or will have as soon as I build it, nothing feels as good as a Triumph and none of your friend's will be half as cool as you are with your bike, it's great to see a young guy into em', take care.
I know I come to this discussion way late, but I really loved my '72 Bonneville. the center of gravity was so amazing. apparently the '63 had similar handling. it's been 44 years since I totalled that bike out in a bee swarm and I am, still to this day, picking out asphalt from my shoulders, but I would love to have another. there simply hasn't been a better handling bike in my possession since. thanks for the wonderful memories.
Love your shows!!! I’ve been restoring a bike for 30 years now. Nearly done, Every Saturday that I get a chance to work on it I ask myself “Am I crazy ? Shouldn’t I be out enjoying myself with the other guys? “ But when I watch your videos it gives me the impetus to keep on going. Keep up the good work!!!
“Fun to ride” is the name of the game and the old Bonnevilles were plenty fun. Jay is so enthusiastic in this video I dare say this could be his favorite bike to ride and we know he has many.
I was born the same year as you Jay and road a lot of countries bikes by the time I was 16. But I finally got the bike I wanted as my second bike, a 72' Bonnie. As you said, a real comfortable ride and yes it had a heartbeat that mimicked mine when we rode together!
Greetings from Australia. Jay, you nailed it in your praise for the Bonny's attributes. I think the fact that the 2016 models reintroducing that style, speaks volumes for the look of that motorcycle. And while the style stems from 52 years ago, no way does it look old, as it can still hold it's own beside some of the more modern machines. Harley Davidson is another example. It may have introduced a lot of new tech, but essentially, it still retains it's original look. Thank you Jay Leno, a wonderful review, that was a memorable trip back to my bike riding days. Back then I was the proud owner of a 1959 Triumph Thunderbird. I later progressed to a new 1967 250cc Yamaha YDS 3 then another Triumph Saint ex Police bike. My last bike eons later was a 1981 Honda 250, nice bike, mag wheels. Anyhow thanks again Jay, you're a legend, cheers...
H Man Aw man, I'm 73, and tell me, did your monitor screen just come over all green,lol, as I do envy you. Anyhow, I'm happy for you, as one day soon, I hope to do the same, Cheers mate...
Dave, you too had a Thunderbird? I thought I was the only person in the world who had one as I never saw another or have heard much mention of them. I bought it from a workmate who obviously had no Whitworth Spanners. My burgeoning bikeriding career was cut short as the West Australian Police had no time for underage non licenced riders back in the 50s/ 60s. Jay, I think a combination of nostalgia and the feeling of a more basic ride makes the older cycle more popular, much the same as many people love the older car, myself included.
David Hamilton I have this '64 Triumph as a bobber and then......Triumph is re-introducing the bobber style for 2017! a great look....best on the old bike....
I owned this exact model when I was 22 years old. I loved riding it. I sold it to buy furniture when I got married. Glad to watch this video. I rode 5000 miles with it and had very few problems. I loved the acceleration! Thanks, Lowell I.
I enjoy watching Jay's video's but this one really connected with me for nostalgia reasons, I had a Norton Dominator 600SS with the featherbed frame and have many fond memories of it. My favourite was driving it on the Isle Of Man, there's something special about a nice riding & good handling British Parallel twin.
It's a 4 year old question but I'll put in my 2 cents - Jay I really don't think its just nostalgia, but a genuinely attractive motorcycle in it's simplicity. My dad left me his '58 TR6 which is almost identical to the '64 Bonnie and I've always thought it was just a pure and simple beautiful machine. It didn't need any fancy bodywork or fairings to make it look good. I've always thought that the beauty of the motor should be the centerpiece of the motorcycle and I've not seen many that did it as well as this era of Triumph. Thanks for giving this bike some well deserved time in the spotlight.
Old post but here is my opinion. I love these old Bonnevilles. It’s about massaging a machine back to working order. The people i meet while getting and finding parts. I find mostly older people with great stories and a world of knowledge. Patience. There’s no plastic like there’s no ECU to give a code. Study. Manuals with hand drawn prints. It’s an art. Appreciate machines like art.
I don't have the patience for maintaining an old bike. However I do adore the style which is why I purchased one of the new "classic" styled Bonnevilles from the revived Triumph company.
My '64 is in pretty much the same shape as Jay's and is going on E-Bay as soon as I can get someone to help me shoot some videos. Tons of pics - no videos yet, and you have to have a video or three nowadays if you want to sell a vehicle online.
I am a 52 yr. old dentist in Guam and my Furst bike was a 67 Daytona t100R bought here on Guam. Learned to ride on that right hand shift. Now I own four bikes including an electric Zero and my heart will always belong to the triumph.
Jay, I have a '71 Bonnie .... YES it is beautiful....I JUST love the front wheel 'shake' at idle AND the exhaust 'rumble' during acceleration CLASSIC!!!
This episode is from 2016 - but it is new to me. My history includes ownership of a fair range of styles from Crotch Rockets to Baggers, Standards, Cruisers, Sportsters and Dual Sports. Honestly, I love them all - all the styles and all the idiosyncrasies of the individual manufacturers. Most of them I have ridden from LA to Cleveland and back. This Bonneville is one that I would love to own or something similar. To answer your question, I don't think this bike or a Norton can ever be separated from the amazing "studliness" they have associated with them or the "cool factor" they carry due to the movies and the marketing they received. I was born in 1963, yet, even still, I have been touched by these bikes because of the celebrity they hold - I investigated them because I thought "wow, those sure have some amazing history and influence and important roles, maybe I need to learn more". Once you tune your eyes to the older more utilitarian design, you begin to see the beauty of the non-CAD parts, the simplicity and function of design - for instance the seat - my bottom side smile when I see that seat - where today they are so sculpted and products of Industrial Designers, that seat is utilitarian and simply purpose built - I find beauty in that...also the open-ness and simplicity of the engine area and how all parts and functions are apparent and simple and not "over engineered"...there is beauty in that - in not trying to create eye candy and Industrial Designs that "pop", but rather function well. The seating position is cool and that exhaust note is beyond amazing....I think it's cool because it is pure, purpose-built motorcycle. I would want one without the history - but that is a conundrum - it's the history and acceptance and panache of it's users that served to market it "forward" so to speak :-) . Ride Safe
Love the constant vibrato in Jsy’s voice during the ride. I used to take my brother’s Bonnie out for a spin and I’d have to shake the blood back into my hands at stop lights.
The Bonneville was my favorite bike when I was in the AF in the 60's. Recently I have been considering getting a new one. After all I'll be 76 this year and time is running out for me to get one. It will fit nicely with my 450sl my sl500 and my 96 corvette roadster.
Hello Jay, I love your videos. I've been riding bikes all my life. I now ride a Triumph Rocket Roadster. I only have one comment and that is would you please start wearing leather gloves when you ride. I've gone down a few times in my life and the hands are usually the first thing to hit the pavement. Thanks and please keep entertaining us.
I stopped wearing them after a guy at work hid them on the coldest day of the year! i find them restrictive, worste injury is grave embeded scraps! i managed to avoid.
Jay...I know I'm late to the party as well, (nor having as much experience with as many vehicles as you) but my take is that you're spot on with having a preference for the older stuff. I have a 2017 Ford hybrid that I love dearly...but it will NEVER be my 1974 Super Beetle. It's a simpler vehicle, from a simpler time. It's also a more "honest" time: the older vehicles are honest with you--there's no computers to make up any shortcomings; also, YOU had to be "honest" with them--adjusting the valves, and doing more FOR the vehicle than just changing the oil and filling it with gas. As for whether nostalgia is having part in your decisions; probably. I'm almost 50; growing up, the car I really wanted was a Beetle, and the bike was a Kawasaki police bike. (A main course of "Herbie" with a side order of CHiPs"?) Anyway...I know the new stuff is more "dependable" (read: maintenance-free, unless you have a computer science degree), but I'm good with my old stuff; it's got MOJO.
Hard to know what came first the beauty and ride characteristics or that fact that it grabbed us at that very impressionable age. But the truth remains it is one of the most beautiful and visually well balanced bikes made and a pure blast to ride. In my opinion. I owned a 66Bonneville. And currently owned a 67 Bonneville. All original. Life is good. Great show Jay. Dan Copeland
I preferred the T110. Faster than the thunderbird but not as fast as the T120 but very flexible on the open road or in traffic. Our British police force used them and they were called "The Saint"
It really is the most beautiful bike overall. They really peaked with the 68. I'm 38 and nothing like riding a Bonneville. It's the perfect mix for a really fun ride.
Great demo, great words, great question. Once owned a new 1973 Bonneville 750, way back in my native Belgium. Loved it to pieces. Life made me sell it after 20.000 miles. After 3 years in the US, bought a brand-new Bonnie T-1OO 900 cc. This Triumph did not lose its original soul and spirit. On the contrary. So much safer, faster, good-looking, and the same mountain lion roaring sound. Improved mechanics. A lot. So many people down the road ask me "how old is she ?'', inclining it is a perfectly preserved and well-kept bike, that they seem to remember from the '60s and the 70's. And it survived. So, ya, it is a true classic to the marrow of her bones. And, yes, Duke Leno, as to answer your question : for me it is absolutely NO nostalgia, it is pure and naked LOVE for one of the best bikes and handsome engines ever made on Planet Earth. As an artist, I consider her as a true and organic piece of art. All the lines are so well balanced and in proportion. May life continue to be good to you, as good as it has always been to mine. Thanks for taking the time for the RUclips jewel. Please be assured that the word "Duke" above, is meant as a huge Bonne Ville compliment. Personalities like you more than deserve to have a UK blue-blooded title before their last name. I take off my pandora and salute you. www.wallyasselberghs.be
Back in the late '50s I loved the way the Triumph sounded. Like the sound of a steam locomotive, radial engine aircraft or nice pipes on a flathead Ford, it was unique and I miss it. I'm old and have some nice memories from the 40s-50s. And Jay is the best!
I love my 500 CC Royal enfield classic. Like you said, bikes from those times do have a character through how they work and their imperfections as opposed to the bikes of new era that has the character by looks and streamlined performances.
Wathing this now some 5 years after you posted. Great way of explaining emotions about a bike. its a feeling you get for different bikes. Just like you say, sunday morning and you "just wanna ride" ! or cruise ! Not to go fast, not too noisy either. Thats where you feel the Bonneville fits you. To answer you question , I think its a character somehow, of a machine that you feel differently. Not to do with beeing an old guy or just a nostalgica. Ive had a few bikes, from small 350´s to zzr1200 and a few chromesleds as well. Now the most fun is on my Buell X1. It shakes rattles and rolls. But its got a ton of pure and raw bike. Like nothing Ive ever ridden before. A bit brutal for some I guess, but I just love it. Kinda weird mix of old, the Harley 1200 engine thats been tuned by Buell,and all else is new , well not new anymore, built in 2001. Runs like it should. No issues with it. many dont get what I feel riding that bike. But thats it, taste and feel is a personal thing... :) but a great clip Jay ! Bonnevilles are beautyful bikes.
Hello Jay and thanks again for sharing this nostalgic piece of our youth. I remember fondly seeing this bike go by me in High School, always driven by rich, cool kids. I remember most was the throaty sound of these machines, and the envy I had for guys who could afford these machines, and had parents cool enough to buy them for them! It seemed these were the guys with the cheerleaders, or the dolls of the school, the ones who would never look at one of us peons who walked to school. So to answer your question Jay, I think there is a lot of nostalgia going on with this bike, and of course there is a lot of bike going on too! TY!
Thanks for the video, I wish I could answer your question, I love the looks, the upright riding position, the torque curve and the remarkable handling, it just seems right.
I started riding in 1961, for the first ten years all of my bikes were made in England. Unfortunately I could never afford a new bike. But bikes were plentiful and cheap. After passing my test my first "Big" bike was a speed twin. And a fine machine it was , I swapped it for a BSA A7SS. That started a love affair with BSAs The 1960s was a golden age in England A truly great time to be young. All of my Friends had bikes, it was magical
2013 bonneville T100 owner here. I’m 43 and think Jay’s bike is a work of art. I’m glad he likes it and it’s cool he knows what he’s talking about when he talks about it
The mid-60's Triumphs are probably the prettiest bikes ever made - and this '64 is the prettiest of the lot. I'm about Jay's age, and my love for these has been shaped by my memories, but there is a reason the new Street Twin in my garage gets ridden more than my other bikes - not the fastest, but just more fun. This bike is even better at it, but I also remember pushing my '66 T120 TT for 5 miles when it locked up - and for real-world daily use, I am willing to sacrifice a lot more weight and a little less beauty to know that I will get home every time.
I would love to see Jay do a side by side with the Yamaha XS650's, and the Triumph Bonneville Yamaha's XS650's was their first 4 stroke, Was designed in England and built by Yamaha in Japan. Hitachi electrics still running perfectly on my 79 Special II 2F... 40 years and I still love it!
A very good comparison to make, Decker. I am a fan of both the Bonneville and XS. The XS engine is a beauty, and perhaps by the late 60's, when production began, it is the design Triumph should have moved on to, with its overhead cam. However, the XS frames up to 74 could not hold a csndle to the Bonnie, but with the intrduction of the sturdier frame ( thanks to Percy Tait's rcommendations) my personal opinion is that the Yamaha 650 was an excellent bike, equal to the oil in frame T140, and possibly easier to live with and more reliable... just not a Triumph tho ...
I'm older than you, Jay, but I think it's fine to let nostalgia fuel enthusiasm for a great bike. When I was in high school in the early to mid fifties, a few guys had Triumphs and were the envy of us cool-obsessed boys. In the years since, I've ridden Hondas and Kawasakis on California racetracks, but I also have one of the newer Bonnies, and that's the bike that I like to take for what I call a "gentleman's ride." The new ones still look good, but they don't leak oil and always start (unlike a Triumph I had in the Marine Corps). I really love Jay Leno's Garage. (We met some years back at Laguna Seca when Ford introduced its re-born race car, and I appreciated that you had no entourage. Also, you may have known my brother, Geoff Edwards, a fellow TV host.)
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I was 20 when I graduated directly from a 1964 150cc Lambretta scooter to a brand new 1968 Triumph Bonneville. It cost me £485 at the time. I was blown away with the power and style. Above all else I was impressed how much safer it was to ride than was the scooter, power, stability, braking. It was about that year Bonnevilles adopted twin leading shoe front brakes, a vast improvement in stopping power.
I rode that bike all over England, Scotland and as far off as Italy on one trip before parting with it to get married. It turned heads everywhere it went, especially in Italy. Like you, Jay, I am nostalgic for that bike. I went on to become a London speed cop riding Triumph Saints, the police version of the Triumph 650cc Trophy, itself the single carb version of the Bonneville. Those were great times, great motorcycles.
Your love of the Bonneville must surely be half nostalgia, half knowing it's a real motorcycle. Those mufflers were, to me, the epitome of what a motorcycle muffler should look like, something that could be said for the look of the whole machine. The size, lines, power, overall impression were ideal. For the time they were around, they were the absolute best. Thanks for taking me for a ride with you.
Agreed. I still own mine however I've begun "thinning the herd" and it's going to be listed soon for sale. Too many bikes in the stable and only so much riding time!
That's genuinely one of the most beautiful bikes ever, without a doubt. Nostalgia is just icing on the cake.
I HATE CAKE , DUMMY!
Yep... that's what a 'motorcycle' looks like... no plastic... 2020 version of my 1997 Intruder still has that look (they call it "naked" now):
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There is episode of Gas Monkey Garage I think where when business is slow he gives his guys some different motorcycles to clean up and then take to auction. One was a nice stock Triumph like this and it went for the most money. More than the Harley’s.
Absolutely.
Muchas gracias por hacernos recordar los tiempos gloriosos de las motocicletas inglesas y de Triumph en particular. Para los fanáticos de ello hoy día Triumph sigue vigente con su magnífica Bonneville....pero oohhh sorpresa: sí existe una versión moderna de su T100, con todos los adelantos modernos pero fiel a su esencia, me refiero a la W800.
En lo personal, cada vez que la uso, vuelvo con una gran sonrisa.
I'm now 81, mostly blind and deaf, had the love of my life 1962 BSA Super Rocket and stupidly sold it and bought th3 Bonneville you have. I was in last two years of college in Virginia, took the BSA to 120 and can verify it and the Bonneville would hit that. They were the pinnacle as you say, and I was blessed to have had them. Was a premed student. failed first semester organic chemistry and that eliminated me going to medical school, avoiding Nam. Cloudy, cold, spitting rain, early spring afternoon, road by the lab and looked up to see the guys with test tubes through the windows, took a deep breath, said "screw" it (medical school), twisted the throttle and went on with my life, didn't do bad as a businessman. Anyway, Jay, loved this video and agreed with everything you said, just wish I could go back and be 21 again, ride like the wind on those two bikes.
I am 24 years young and that is the most beautiful bike I've ever seen - so it's not just the nostalgia!
24 years "young"? You mean 24 years old.
@@konjino78 why subject yourself to the term “old”?
I hope your generation finds the same pleasure I've enjoyed the last fifty years.
I'm an old guy (age 70), a former journalist who came out of retirement a couple of years ago to sell motorcycles -- specifically, BMWs. Now I love the new Beemers. They are marvels of advanced mechanical (and electronic) technology. They're terrific to ride -- smooth, powerful, ultra-reliable. I cannot deny their excellence. In fact, it's difficult to deny the excellence of nearly every modern motorcycle. It's difficult, if not impossible, to buy a bad one these days.
Yet, my daily rider is a 1970 Triumph T100R Daytona; a 500cc parallel twin closely related to the pre oil-in-frame Bonnies, like Jay's. The little Daytona is an absolute joy -- spry, nimble, quick (but not beastly) and, for whatever reason, more fun than my 193 hp 2010 BMW S1000RR, the superbike of superbikes. So, is it nostalgia that moves me to enjoy the little Triumph so much? Probably -- in part. But, it's also the purity of the motorcycling experience the Daytona offers. It's just rider and machine without electronic intervention, without taming, without sanitation. Riding the old girl is a visceral thing that simply cannot be replicated by modern machinery. Are the new bikes better? Of course they are -- technologically. But, for pure, raw, unmolested enjoyment, Jay's Bonnie and my Daytona cannot be bettered. So say I!
i had a t100 c high pipes c meaning compatition for off road single carb i was followed 1 day by a biker he cauht up an says u got any cilinder heads we got frendly and he wanted me to follow him to his home shed an he had a stack of heads on the bench all were cracked between the valve seats he had the daytona 500 twin carb so i would go 1 carb if i was u it dont lose much power and stays in tune easyer no balacing to go out maybe my bike had lower compression pistons too wich helps alot lastly i crashed into a car the forks were bent as far as posible the wheel was totally strait an true lol them heavy spokes on the c models over kill strong
Older bikes embody soul and spirit.. not soulless dendability! BTW.. old age is a state of mind.. MCs keep you young.
There is a lot to be said for a simple, good handling light weight bike that looks great machinewise. Not plastic coverwise. Classic English bikes like this are the two wheeled version of the classic English sportscar like the MGB or Austin Healy and the ilk.
Loved my 500 trophy😁
Amen!
"You're not going to get Leno by offering him any money. You gotta give him something he would really want" American media needs more Jay Leno's. Glad he's still producing quality material! What a guy
Yeah, genuine *good* guy, one of few I'd really like to meet some day
+Joseph Lemenager He didn't go with NBC though lol Basically got his mate to play them for a new bike and then went to CBS anyway haha
+One 1 Wrong.
+Joseph Lemenager I wonder if he named it, "Dave."
Joseph Lemenager. right!? im sure money had nothing to do with that deal. What a guy...
I’m 65 yrs old from England but have lived most of my life in the USA , always love the Bonnie’s but never owned one until now , and I’m thrilled to bits , thanks Jay for that video , very inspiring indeed
Which ones have you owned?
Perfect! Thanks for the ride down memory lane! I had two Bonnies, a '67 and a '70; both were the epitome of British motorcycles. My old snortin' Norton was a cool bike but didn't compare to the Bonnies. I'm 72 and still riding, but I look at old Triumphs on the internet every night after Momma goes to bed. They STILL do it for me! Long live the Bonneville...
This!
Like you old man (I’m 71) Triumph, Norton, BSA and even an Ariel square four. I consider myself very lucky 🍀
I’m 70 and I owned 5 Triumphs and 1 Norton Commando.😊
On my third Triumph, just picked up a 2023 Bonneville T120 two days ago. Had a 650 Bonneville in the 70s, and a Thunderbird 900 in the early 2000s.
I'm sixty seven this year and still building and working on Triumphs, they are a joy to build and ride.
I've watched a lot of these videos. Jay sounds happiest in this one.
+Patrick Boyle I agree on this Bonnie video too, The Vincent Black Shadow he is also right up there- I know that feeling personally. Also the happiest moment when he was featuring the 32 Pursang Monza which belongs to my friend and neighbor
He does seem that.. Those old British marques will do that to you..
In his blood i spose..his mother was british
Jay, during the 60's and 70's in the UK we had a motorcycle club called The Toddington & District MCC. I had a BSA 250 C11G, a 350 single Matchless and ended up with a 650 Bonneville the best bike ever. To this day we still meet three times a week after 51 years some still riding bikes and talk about the old times when we went racing, trialing, and marshalling at various events around the UK. We cry in our beers at the bikes we had and sold for a song knowing what they would be worth now. Even today on 21 Aug 2019 some of the lads went on a club run riding flashy foreign things but it's not the same as the old un's. We might all be in our late 60's and early 70's but are still friends and it's all down to the humble motorcycle.
Wow... I am impressed, 51 years of riding and still together sharing memories of all these years ❤️
I know exactly what you mean about the crazy prices bikes are going for today. I had a BSA C11 which I bought for £2.
A Triumph speed twin I bought from Kings for £20. A Triumph T110 I bought for £20. The list goes on and on.
I have to say though it’s looking at them through rose tinted glasses. None of them you could say were reliable, they left a
Pool of oil wherever you stopped but people of our age now have the cash and that’s driven the prices sky high.
I’ve got a Hayabusa which I’ve had from new. 44000 miles never let me down beautiful condition and worth less than a 125 bantam..
Crazy times.
I’m 68 years old, I bought a 69 Triumph Tiger 650. It was sitting for decades near the San Diego area. It’s all original to all the bolts and Philips head case screws. It’s a nice original Red Orange paint with sun bleached tank and fenders, I cleaned it up, waxed it and it looks beautiful. No rust in the tank, but I had the gators and shocks rebuilt, and new brakes and tires. Runs just fine. I hadn’t ridden a motorcycle since I was 24 years old. So I’m starting all over. I took a motorcycle class and I have been enjoying riding on quiet streets and parking lots. The handling is just amazing, so easy to ride. To the Englishman in the original comment. It’s never to late to buy a nice 60’s English bike. I got this one for as much as a new Triumph “Street Twin”, which is a super nice modern retro bike. Cheers mate!
I always remember taking my friend's 1966 Triumph Bonneville 650 for a ride. Lots of fun. I kept the 1970 Norton 750 Commando that I bought in 1973. Still ride it to this day. Great bike. Sounds great, and a real love affair.
As a teen-ager, the Norton Commando was my dream bike, never to come true.
Even the name was cool.
Jay, I am a young old guy at 44. The first bike I ever touched was my fathers 1949 Triumph Chopper. I was bitten by the bug and now I own 11 Old Triumphs from 1951 to 1970. These old bikes hold a dear place in my heart and I totally agree as they are such a joy to ride.
Are the vintage triumphs relatively reliable? I’m thinking of when they went to left foot shifting, sometime in the 70’s. I just can’t stand how big and heavy modern motorcycles are. Which year would you recommend?
Loved your tour of your 64 Bonneville. It brings back great memories. I had a 68 & 69 Bonneville that I purchased new from the factory in Coventry, England in their “overseas delivery plan” which included purchase, registration for the summer and shipping home. I saved up for a year working two jobs and planked down the $864.00 in a check to the company in the spring of “68” then flew over on a charter plane with Simmons, Wheelock and Emanuel Colleges to pick her up at a dealer in Brixton Hill. I drove her all through Europe that summer then flew home. The bike was shipped buy boat that fall under the same $864.00 & arrived in Boston that winter. In the following spring of “69” I sold her as a used bike for $1000.00 and did it all over again and bought the “69”. The ride is definitely great but it’s the memories that go with it that make all the difference. It’s funny, but I still have dreams every once in a while about my “68 Bonneville” , that I still have it and it’s parked somewhere in the neighborhood but I can’t find it.
Weird, no just great memories.
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No, it really is one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever.
@@johnzenkin1344 - First time I saw a white 805cc Intruder I fell in love with them... but then I saw the candy apple red one... it was all over... I immediately bought one... doesn't hurt that, despite being just a 'cruiser', it's effortlessly faster than a Bonneville, not too heavy, no chains/belts, and infinitely more reliable, as well...
Jay I enjoyed your story on your Bonneville
I came across my 66 Bonny in pieces.3 big boxes of parts.The owner gave up.I went got the shop manual and checked over all the wore out parts.Went to the dealer and got all the parts and made this great bike a trail bike/Hill climb bike.Little did i know 66 was a race engine 11-1 pistons.This thing would climb a telephone pole if i could hang on.Set the timing @ 38 degrees and this thing could rip tree stumps out of the ground.
Sorry i never had it street legal.
A rider of over 50 years and I think my '66 Triumph T100s gives me the biggest smile. It may sound cliche, but it really does have a soul that my other bikes never came close to having. I like to think it's some kind of ancient spirit that got tangled up in the motorcycle industry there.
I am 75 years old and I have been riding since I was 10. A Cushman 46. I have owned almost as many motorcycles as I am old. If I listed my top ten, two of them would be Triumph bikes. The first one would be the Tiger Cub T 20. The next one would be the 1967 TR6, the single carb 650. They hold the same love now as ever, except for the rectifiers. LOL. I really like your show and I am a big fan. Ride on my friend.
I'm 21 years old and love motorcycling with a passion. I've thankfully been blessed to have ridden lots of different bikes at a young age, rockets, harleys, and elegant british twins/thumpers. And I would take a vintage bonneville or vincent or etc. over the nicest, most expensive ducati or harley from this era any day. And I speak for a lot of young people
IMO, the british bikes that were pre unit construction were more reliable mechanically. Reason, well gearboxes give less trouble when they have clean thicker gearbox oil as it was in pre-unit engines and gearboxes. When they changed to unit construction, engine and gearbox ran in the same oil 20/50 multigrade oil available in those days and of course it being engine oil, it got dirty. Also the british bikes leaked oil and the electrics were unreliable. Clutches were poor as well.
@@lovemetuoil is separate from engine in the unit bikes takes 90 weight and lower ends were pretty bullet proof.
Well, Jay can't help much with your question. However, I have ridden thousands upon thousands of miles on 4 different Japanese made bikes and 2 American made bikes but the best handling and most satisfying to me were my 2 Triumph motorcycles.
One was a 250,it was okay, but not enough power for me. The other was a 650 Bonneville and oh man. What a sweet running and handling bike.
Course,to the punchline, I am 72 and both Triumphs were late 60's and both were bought new.
I still ride and I still say,nothing today was like those TRIUMPHS I had .
Nostalgia, maybe, but still they were SWEET.
I'm retired now but this reminds me of the time my best friend in High School begged his brother who was in college to let him take Triumph 500 for a ride one freezing cold November afternoon in Denver Colorado. Ron stopped by my house to get me as a witness and we headed for the interstate hwy. We headed down the highway with no crash helmets. I was hanging on for dear life and the tears streaming from our eyes were freezing on our cheeks. I happened to look down at the ground and I saw the rear axle nut was completely loose and vibrating back and forth. We took the next exit very slowly and eased our way back home. What an exciting ride. I will never forget it. Thanks for taking us along Jay.
TheEZGZ awesome story.
I am 33 now I've heard very similar stories from my old man also in Denver Colorado I have been on a triumph since I was 12
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I've bought my first Bonneville about 10 days ago and I only started 2 years ago but the Bonneville I fell in love with it at first sight. It oozes class and the mix of modern and old skool for me is perfection.
My father has owned 3 different motorcycles since I was a kid. He had a 40' crocker, 70' Harley Sportster and a 64' Bonneville. He sold the Crocker when I was around 8 the Harley my uncle wrecked, and the Bonneville my dad kept and kept well. He got it after he originally got out of the military and got the Harley and the Bonneville with the help of my grandfather.
When I turned the age of reason (18) my dad helped me get my license and showed me what he knew about bikes. Everything and anything until he felt confident that I could go on a long ride without having issues doing emergency repairs. I own a 2017 Triumph Bonneville and have ridden my fathers as well.
I like MY Triumph more than my dads but that's just because it's mine. In terms of appearance the Bonneville is an all time fave.
To answer your question it's not just nostalgia. Their minimalist approach to design, the sleek shape, a lot of modern bikes lack that special touch that the true vintage classics have.
That being said though, my dad still has his bike and we ride every once and awhile and his bike is still a beast lol
Jay, this maybe one of your best from Jay Leno's Garage. Your passion for the English motorcycles shines and honestly after watching this episode, I wanted one. I'm 63 and have own a Norton Commando 750 "S" since I was 17, I've always kept it running. Never wanted to do anything w/ it except keep it as it came from the factory more or less ( well ok I changed it over to a Boyer electronic ignition and put on a later model 's front disc break but a friend made a wooden case a gave it to as a even swap . The tinker w/ it with a old friend and switching them was just something we did one afternoon. That's what came through in this episode but the one you did on your Norton 650 SS delivered the same vibe. My son who is 26 has a beautiful 2014 Honda 700 something or other. Loves my Norton but has never really asked to drive it. I told him when he was a teenager, when you can kick it over just let me know when you want to take out. There is just something about those bikes.
I enjoyed the video Jay Leno explained the Bike very well easy to ride simple to maintain nothing complicated . Take the tank off 4 bolts and every thing was accessible. Thanks Jay.
I'm in my 70's now but in high school ...I rode a Triumph 650...so to your feelings about motorcycles I can only say Amen... this IS the Pinnacle of looks and function for bikes to this day...it never got any better before or after
I'm 37 and grew up learning to ride on vintage Triumphs since I was 14.
My father just gifted me a 1969 TR6R, so I'm just browsing fun videos on them before I have a chance to get out and about on my new to me motorcycle.
I've owned several Japanese sports bikes in the past, and rode some of my father's vintage HD's, but never hesitate to hop on an old Triumph above all.
My first Triumph was a 64 Tiger 650. Tickle the carb and she would fire on the second kick every time. It was 1971 and I was 17 and rode it to high school as a senior. Man was I cool! Still the best sound from those pea shooters. Priceless experience Jay. Now I ride a 650 scooter as an older guy. I’ve had 56 bikes over the years from 50cc to 2300cc. What a wonderful hobby God has blessed us with.☺️
I will never forget Sunday morning rides on my Triumph.
Get another one! Don't sit there wishing man, go enjoy yourself
I am new to the motorcycle world but I remember the Triumphs, the Norton's, the BSA's from high school (I am 60 yrs old). They were what appealed to me. I finally bought a motorcycle 4 years ago. A Royal Enfield 500 ( sorry, made in India) It had that fun, simple, very mechanical look to it. I have had so much fun with it.. I threw a sidecar on it and love riding the country roads here in Oregon. I am looking to a larger bike, and to be honest, the only one that appeals to me is the Triumph T -100 for the same reason the Enfield appealed. The colour scheme on your Bonnie is wonderful.
Jay thanks so so much for posting old part now still riding but started riding on 68th drive Bonneville stainless steel fenders to me still most beautiful bike ever made
And that teacher was so wrong. Happy to see the kind of motivation and enthusiasm Jay has towards bikes and cars. Very cool!
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The shoe. The other day I was riding down the road and saw a guy walking and wearing only one shoe. It looked exactly like that shoe in the video. I said hey buddy, did you lose a shoe. He said "no, I found one".
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Thats awaome
@Hal Herrington That's a great Jeff Dunham and Peanut joke. He told that in his early days with Peanut.
Lol
That may be the same guy who argued with me saying the glass was half full and I told him " no fool it's half empty, stop being so optimistic!"
I rode Motorcycles for over 50 years, this bike was the reason I developed an interest.
I have had a number of motorcycles...
I found that I always go back to a classic British Bike.
Some days they don't want to run..
Some days they run so very well..
They shake...
They vibrate...
But they are real...
Real soul..
Real character..
Real beauty..
Every part, has shape....
The shape of Art....
my last British bike was a b. s. a. gold flash 650cc vertical twin before that i had trumph tiger110 both beautiful bikes both burgess silencers straight through what a great sound wish i had them now memories will never forget.
When I started my working career, it was at a Triumph dealership. 1963 was the year that I began my love for bikes and the Triumph was always the one everyone wanted. I think the styling is the thing that brings everyone to it.
I own a 2007 Bonneville, black and silver, and it really is one of the greatest looking bikes of all time. I'm 23.
I'm from Coventry - born and bred. The Triumph factory was just outside the city in Meriden. My Mums still near the old Browns Lane Jaguar plant wheres some of my family worked.. The 60's really were the pinnacle - theres a hill that runs from the Meriden works down in to Meriden village - Test riders and drivers used to race each other up the hill - Bonneville against E-Types' etc. Our glory days of engineering at its best.
Hi Jay, I bought a Triumph Bonneville back in 1964. I was a freshman in college and bought a 1959 model. I L-O-V-E-D that bike. It was sort of my "coming out to Life." Here I was a freshman in college, and had freedom for the first time in my Life, and I bought this bike and rode it all over. What a fun time I had. Back then I never wore a helmet. and never wore any type of goggles. And I must say that there were quite a few times I had it up over 100 miles per hour. Ah, those days. Now, I am a retired Surgeon, glad to be alive, and still very nostalgically remembering that beautiful motorcycle. P.S. I am even considering buying another "retro" Triumph Bonneville. But now I will hear a helmet and goggles. Thanks you for your nice presentation. Dr. George Whitehead
Simply gorgeous machine....and I love your detailed walk-through and explanation. This was a joy to watch! Thank you for this episode.
I knew that Jay owned older bikes, but now I'm glad to know that he also knows and likes them as much as I do. I own a 65 and a 70 Triumph Bonneville.
I'm 33 years old and that is my all time favorite motorcycle.
I've owned 3 of them.
+goodfella21f I don't know much about Honda motorcycles, all 3 of my Triumphs had Norton 850 engines which had around 60 hp, which maybe fairly close to a Honda Shadow.
bonnie motor was about 40-42 hp
oops, later saw the quote of 46 hp
I've got two words for you: "The Fonz." OK, now name one cool person who's ridden a Honda Shadow... (crickets)
I used to own a Shadow Spirit 750 and loved it, but I eventually sold it, and I wound up with a 2013 Bonneville. The Bonneville is an improvement over the Honda in EVERY way except the seat comfort on long rides (just get the British Customs gel seat and problem solved).
The Bonnie has got more HP for two-up riding, better braking, and MUCH better handling than the Shadow. Both are good bikes, don't get me wrong, but you will be much more satisfied with the Bonneville in the long run.
Am a youngish guy and love these bikes... There is an open cockpit feel to them. Thanks for sharing Jay.
In 19'69 I bought a 1964 650 BSA Thunderbolt. My buddy had a 1959 Triumph 650. I've been riding bikes for 50 years now and I can honestly say that my Brit-bike era was the most memorial. England put the 'motor' in motorcycle.
I owned one in the seventies and still love the look of them, they are a timeless classic
It's not just because you're an older guy. There's a tangible difference between riding a high performance machine with all the modern bells and whistles, and riding a simple, honest to God, down to business motorcycle.
There's an honesty to simpler bikes that I find very appealing. It really is motorcycling stripped of all non-essentials down to its purest form.
So I say bless the simple bikes. We need more of them.
+Orion Slaver i recently got a 2015 bonneville and was so relieved to be able to get one before the new 2016 models with all their bells and whistles. you hit the nail on the head.
and that's why i bought a '79 T140D Special Edition for my first bike... I wanted something simple, honest, true natured and a traditional motorcycle all around. And yeah.. she turns heads. And drops panties...
Jr M Royal Enfield makes just that
There are still new bikes like that being built, or rather assembled. Especially in Asia, but also the UK. They tend to be small-displacement.
I quite agree. For me, simpler is better. I actually prefer the 500cc Daytona over the 650's
Thank You Jay ! I was stationed at Camp Pendleton when I cam back to the world, in 1963. I had a 1955 Ford Convertible and a 1963 TR-6 Trophy. I road that bike (like) for ever. Your ride really brought back memories, well I want to think you again, and you are to be commended for what you do with your videos. At 77 years young we still ride my 1974 BMW R90S, plus a 1992 Harley FLSTC with a Liberty sidecar with over 1,000,000 miles on it. Jay ! Keep working on staying young at heart !
Just got my first bike. Age 50. 2013 Bonneville T100. Seeing how much it looks like that great bike you have makes me love mine even more. Glad I saw this video.
Yours will be much more reliable than the 60's era Triumph.
When Triumph was riding by Edward Turner his his motto is 20,000 miles off the line my boy if Triumph had not been bought by TSA we would still have Triumph making the bikes that they always made thanks you're always regretted having to sell Triumph because of the death duties this is what shankster said when he sold it to BSA
Edgewood Turner made his own 350 race bike from his own little motorcycle shop in England before he went to work for the big manufacturer before he made the Triumph twin he made the Ariel Square Four another legendary motorcycle Turner was a real motorcycle enthusiast when he retired the single-minded purpose of building good bikes went down the road
My 65 Triumph TR6 the double leading shoe brakes Burn Rubber stopping you can upgrade the brakes on that bike real easy by just changing the plate drum brakes are so Superior to disc brakes only became on production bikes because of racing regulations Suzuki brakes didn't work worth a crap in the rain and they would give you a sticker saying be careful in the wet
I graduated from high school in 1969. I had a Honda 305 Super Hawk, but the ultimate bike to have at that time was the Triumph Bonneville. Pure classic motorcycle. I have a Triumph today ... finally! lol
. . . l also had a 305 Scrambler, and I wanted a Bonneville so bad. . .
Same here to you and the guys above .... I had a 305cc black Super Hawk in high school ( grad '68 ). I loved it but I salivated over my older brother's Bonnie .. with it's Burgundy and Grey tank w the parcel rack and the big wide and flat two toned black sided and grey top seat. WOW .... what a bike ... I really should get one from back then before it is too late to enjoy it. I have to add ... the Honda 450 Black Bomber which came out just as I got into owning cars ... was a beautiful machine as well ... to me classic level design and workmanship !
My dad Lex, is a big fan of yours. He is also a big Triumph fans as well. He has a 67 Triumph Bonneville, 52 Triumph Thunderbird and a 52? Triumph Tiger Cub? I may have the names wrong but I forward your channel over to him to watch. I wish I could add photos to show. I really enjoy watching your channel. I am 45 years old. I love the old cars. They are real classics. They have some of the best lines and character of any new car made. I restored a 69 Ford Bronco off the frame restoration. It was my first and hopefully not my last. Keep inspiring generations to love and appreciate cars and motorcycles. Thanks.
The tiger cub was a 200cc single cylinder bike
+Fred Miles yes it is. I had to go over to my dads yesterday to check. We started them all up and took them for a few rides around the block. Still getting use to the right side shifting.
In 1964, I purchased my Bonneville from Triumph of Burbank. I made delivery at the Coventry factory and commenced to spend the next six months bumming around Europe. I did about 11 countries and returned to Coventry to have the bike shipped back to Johnson Motors, who in turn notified my dealer. I got a call telling me that the bike was ready to be picked-up. I sold it around three or four years later (sniff). No problems at all during my ownership. Best ride I ever owned.
At 25, I think I count as a young guy.
I've been riding since I was 18 and I've only been into vintage bikes, after having lessons on a modern Honda. I ride Moto Guzzi's and Royal Enfield. There's just something about the styling that really appeals to me. Apart from that they're, like you pointed out, not as stupidly fast as modern motorcycles are. When I rip up the throttle on my 500cc Enfield, it sounds and feels like it's going 100mph, while with 25bhp it's probably not.
And then there's just the pure mechanical joy that these vintage bikes are. No plastic, no computers, no weird electronics... Just metal, grease and oil working. When something breaks, which on the Guzzi's doesnt but on the Enfield does, I can easily fix it. Gotta love it.
Jay: You and I go way back, to when I launched British Car & Bike Magazine and launched your career as a motorhead (JK...a little). The question you posed was a good one, and I think we all ask ourselves this if we're really in tune with our perceptions and our feelings. I can't speak for you but for me, the appeal of the older bikes like your 1964 Bonnie comes down to our connection with the machine. It's a relatively simple device, with linear responses to our inputs, and never exceeding our confidence to twist the throttle wide open (you do not do that on a modern GSX-WFO1600 without pausing first to assure yourself that your affairs are in order with the executor of your estate). These old British machines were the lathes, the presses, the anvils of the day. Predictable, approachable, and most importantly, an ideal match for the abilities of the average (and slightly above average-you know, the "Expert Rider" referred to in the decal) of the day. The truth is, you and I can wring the neck of a Bonnie or Atlas or Lightning and get the best of the machine. There's a visceral satisfaction there that's hard to articulate. Few of us can say the same of the modern machines that have exceeded our own skills and abilities in the way that modern fighter jets have exceeded their pilots' ability to fly them stick-and-rudder. I've spoken with guys who fly demilitarized jets who tell me that they much prefer their Stearman 75 biplane or Cessna 172 for sheer joy in the simplicity of the flying experience. They become one with the machine. So the answer is, there is a threshold at which we squishy humans can truly conquer our machines and feel in complete control...and beyond that, they control us. Perhaps we reached that perfect balance sometime in the 1960s....or perhaps-just maybe-we're getting old.
You are a amazing writer. Someone needed too put those words together. I wish it was me but, Im glad it was you. I, not in a million years could have written what you have, in the way you have. Very well done.
Thank you
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I used to love myZ10. But I went for a ride on a friends RZ250. Immediately, you like the fact that you can get the most out of the package, which was only possible on the Zx10 twice in the years I owned it. People asked, 'how fast is that?' My reply was invariably the same: 'Very fast! But what goes through your mind all the time is not how fast you can go, but how much braking distance do I have'. Because you felt like any speed was possible and in most situations, top performance of that machine, is simply unattainable,
On further consideration, which is better though? The Zx10 by a long way. Better handling similar economy, better, reliability, comfort, brakes chassis and the list goes on. If the old stuff is so much better, we never would have replaced it. Even the retro styled bikes, are not pure to the older technology. The pilots enjoying the pure flying experience of their cesna's etc, would not choose them over a phantom jet, if they had to fly to keep a business appointment in Europe. So whilst the older bikes are cool, it's mostly just nostalgia.
Hi Jay. This is my first comment on your channel so I can I start be saying how privileged we are that you share your unique experience and insights of your collection so freely with us. Your restoration standards are inspiring.
I have several bikes, but none with more than two cylinders. I like simple machines. In Europe we believe that the US design mantra is “if enough is just right then too much must be even better”. My equivalent run about is a 2006 (Chennai) Enfield Bullet 500 restyled to be a more exact replica of the 1955 design. For me, it is just as engaging as your Triumph and satisfying to ride and maintain, but only for local journeys. I think nostalgia comes into play when you say that long distances could be covered with ease on the bikes of the ‘60s. Are you sure the Bonnie could do an honest 120mph? I bet you would not want to do it on yours! If you do I hope you will consider wearing gloves.
She’s a beauty, no doubt about it, Jay. The simplicity, the ease of the roadside fix, the handling…the best. My first bike was a ‘70 Bonnie left on my doorstep by a friend from school who owed me some money at graduation. I spent the next couple of years on it, but then discovered the BMW rabbit hole, where I spent the next 48 years. As of ‘22, I’m back on a Triumph again. Not the same as the originals, but the handling, power, and reliability are amazing. I always have an eye out for an oldie, though! Thank you for this sweet look back!
the love of my youth was a Triumph 500. Thanks for the memories Jay.
Yes Jay they were a beautiful bike I had a 1969 Bonneville which was a ex cop bike I brought in 1971 at an auction I think I paid $500 dollars for it and yes you always had to go over it with a spanner quiet often. Don't forget Harley's in the sixties and seventies were junk as well and had all sorts of problems. To have one now I would have to take out a second mortgage to buy one.
I have had so many bikes over the years Japanese and Harley's and I think as you get older you want to go back to something more simple and relaxing today's bikes are so fast out of the box they are scary. My brother had an R1 Yamaha and with a little tricking and a pipe got around 230 HP at the wheel where can you use that except on the track
So may be it's an age thing where you just want to see and smell the roses and enjoy the ride.
Cheers Dave
+David Cashin
Take out that mortgage immediately. These bikes have an oil scent of their own, mark their territory in a most dignified manner, and is sure to add 5 to ten years to your life in order to make those payments. -gilpin 5-2-16
+David Cashin take out a?..... ur making me curious now lol
Maybe take out a... gun and rob a bank?
or Take out a mask and cover ur face and go steal one?
or take out a tiger to eat the owner of a harley so u can say ur his friend and take it for urself?
All the possibilities
I think the appeal is that its simple Jay. I was born the year before this was made and, like the Bonny, in England.
I think we remember the simpler times with vehicles. As a lad I used to work on my uncles vintage cars all the time.
These things could be fixed with the minimum of tools and it was actually a point of pride in being able to service your bike or car on the weekend back then.
Likewise the more sophisticated vehicles have become, the safer, quieter and easier to use for me the life and soul have gone.
I appreciate new vehicles but I would rather have an older vehicle even if it means less comfort or convenience and the chance it might break down as it becomes a relationship between me and the machine.
New vehicles to me remove me so far from that. I really care not for modern sports cars. I would rather have a Frog Eyed Sprite that can barely break the speed limit than the modern equivalent that can easily do that.
The most fun to be had is when a vehicle is near its limits and so a Frog Eyed Sprite or 2CV gives you as many thrills without ever chancing to break the law! Keep up the good work Jay and please, if your not wearing that Seiko anymore I would be a very willing recipient of it. I love watches! :)
All the best to you.
Ian.
Jay, it is one of the best looking bikes of all time. It's not just nostalgia. This, for me, is THE classic bike. I'm too young to be nostalgic about it.
Im 25 and ride a 1968 Daytona, love the feel.
Cool! Don't sell it, 500's are getting more rare every day. Top dollar for one is way up now proving what I said. I'm 62 and just finished rebuilding my 1970 Daytona the other day, I've had it since 1981 and it wasn't worth the 100.00 I paid for it! I had good connections then and built it for penny's on the dollar or it wouldn't have been possible, it was that bad! Today it's very near top condition with just a little touch of a flat tracker tossed in tastefully. I just got a 73' Tiger 650 I'm going to rebuild now, it was another great deal and don't need near as much as my 600 did, and it's completely original! It shows you have good taste that you're riding a Triumph for one, and the older it gets, the more you'll be glad you kept it. On any nice day you will see dozens of HD's but you'll be lucky if you spot even one vintage twin Triumph or BSA! I was around your age when I finally found my 500 and bought even though I was looking for a 40"er, but I'm glad I did and finally I've got the 650 , or will have as soon as I build it, nothing feels as good as a Triumph and none of your friend's will be half as cool as you are with your bike, it's great to see a young guy into em', take care.
I know I come to this discussion way late, but I really loved my '72 Bonneville. the center of gravity was so amazing. apparently the '63 had similar handling. it's been 44 years since I totalled that bike out in a bee swarm and I am, still to this day, picking out asphalt from my shoulders, but I would love to have another. there simply hasn't been a better handling bike in my possession since. thanks for the wonderful memories.
Love your shows!!! I’ve been restoring a bike for 30 years now. Nearly done, Every Saturday that I get a chance to work on it I ask myself “Am I crazy ? Shouldn’t I be out enjoying myself with the other guys? “ But when I watch your videos it gives me the impetus to keep on going. Keep up the good work!!!
I am 25 and i am buying a RE interceptor 650 just because of the retro styling .
This is an evergreen look , Jay.
“Fun to ride” is the name of the game and the old Bonnevilles were plenty fun. Jay is so enthusiastic in this video I dare say this could be his favorite bike to ride and we know he has many.
I was born the same year as you Jay and road a lot of countries bikes by the time I was 16. But I finally got the bike I wanted as my second bike, a 72' Bonnie. As you said, a real comfortable ride and yes it had a heartbeat that mimicked mine when we rode together!
Greetings from Australia. Jay, you nailed it in your praise for the Bonny's attributes. I think the fact that the 2016 models reintroducing that style, speaks volumes for the look of that motorcycle. And while the style stems from 52 years ago, no way does it look old, as it can still hold it's own beside some of the more modern machines. Harley Davidson is another example. It may have introduced a lot of new tech, but essentially, it still retains it's original look. Thank you Jay Leno, a wonderful review, that was a memorable trip back to my bike riding days. Back then I was the proud owner of a 1959 Triumph Thunderbird. I later progressed to a new 1967 250cc Yamaha YDS 3 then another Triumph Saint ex Police bike. My last bike eons later was a 1981 Honda 250, nice bike, mag wheels. Anyhow thanks again Jay, you're a legend, cheers...
I`m 50 and I just bought my very first bike. A 2017 Triumph Street Twin and I love it!
H Man Aw man, I'm 73, and tell me, did your monitor screen just come over all green,lol, as I do envy you. Anyhow, I'm happy for you, as one day soon, I hope to do the same, Cheers mate...
Congratulations!
Dave, you too had a Thunderbird? I thought I was the only person in the world who had one as I never saw another or have heard much mention of them. I bought it from a workmate who obviously had no Whitworth Spanners.
My burgeoning bikeriding career was cut short as the West Australian Police had no time for underage non licenced riders back in the 50s/ 60s.
Jay, I think a combination of nostalgia and the feeling of a more basic ride makes the older cycle more popular, much the same as many people love the older car, myself included.
David Hamilton I have this '64 Triumph as a bobber and then......Triumph is re-introducing the bobber style for 2017! a great look....best on the old bike....
I owned this exact model when I was 22 years old. I loved riding it. I sold it to buy furniture when I got married. Glad to watch this video. I rode 5000 miles with it and had very few problems. I loved the acceleration! Thanks, Lowell I.
Thanks for letting us know the history of this bike Jay! It's a beautiful bike - appreciate your knowledge of motorcycles!
Iconic. I was born in 1971 and own a T100R of the same year- I love it. Great show Jay!
Came up in the sixties. I have a Honda 305 super hawk I bought new in 1968. Love to ride the old bikes
I enjoy watching Jay's video's but this one really connected with me for nostalgia reasons, I had a Norton Dominator 600SS with the featherbed frame and have many fond memories of it. My favourite was driving it on the Isle Of Man, there's something special about a nice riding & good handling British Parallel twin.
How I regret selling my 1961 600ss Dominator.
Was thinking about a bucket list ride on the Isle of Man during last night's country road ride
It's a 4 year old question but I'll put in my 2 cents - Jay I really don't think its just nostalgia, but a genuinely attractive motorcycle in it's simplicity. My dad left me his '58 TR6 which is almost identical to the '64 Bonnie and I've always thought it was just a pure and simple beautiful machine. It didn't need any fancy bodywork or fairings to make it look good. I've always thought that the beauty of the motor should be the centerpiece of the motorcycle and I've not seen many that did it as well as this era of Triumph. Thanks for giving this bike some well deserved time in the spotlight.
Old post but here is my opinion. I love these old Bonnevilles. It’s about massaging a machine back to working order. The people i meet while getting and finding parts. I find mostly older people with great stories and a world of knowledge. Patience. There’s no plastic like there’s no ECU to give a code. Study. Manuals with hand drawn prints. It’s an art. Appreciate machines like art.
I don't have the patience for maintaining an old bike. However I do adore the style which is why I purchased one of the new "classic" styled Bonnevilles from the revived Triumph company.
Glad you bought a Triumph Dennis, but sorry,...The new ones are just not the same. : /
Rick Brown true, they are better! And more reliable
Old is nice, new is better. Especially, if you would rather ride than tinker.
Ditto. Just got a 2017 Street Twin
a LOT heavier sadly
I'm 17 and I really think it looks amazing. I really want one of those.
My '64 is in pretty much the same shape as Jay's and is going on E-Bay as soon as I can get someone to help me shoot some videos. Tons of pics - no videos yet, and you have to have a video or three nowadays if you want to sell a vehicle online.
I am a 52 yr. old dentist in Guam and my Furst bike was a 67 Daytona t100R bought here on Guam. Learned to ride on that right hand shift. Now I own four bikes including an electric Zero and my heart will always belong to the triumph.
Jay, I have a '71 Bonnie .... YES it is beautiful....I JUST love the front wheel 'shake' at idle AND the exhaust 'rumble' during acceleration CLASSIC!!!
As a kid I always dreamt of owning one. Such a beautiful bike.
A wonderful trip down memory lane! Thank you Mr. Leno!
This episode is from 2016 - but it is new to me. My history includes ownership of a fair range of styles from Crotch Rockets to Baggers, Standards, Cruisers, Sportsters and Dual Sports. Honestly, I love them all - all the styles and all the idiosyncrasies of the individual manufacturers. Most of them I have ridden from LA to Cleveland and back. This Bonneville is one that I would love to own or something similar. To answer your question, I don't think this bike or a Norton can ever be separated from the amazing "studliness" they have associated with them or the "cool factor" they carry due to the movies and the marketing they received. I was born in 1963, yet, even still, I have been touched by these bikes because of the celebrity they hold - I investigated them because I thought "wow, those sure have some amazing history and influence and important roles, maybe I need to learn more". Once you tune your eyes to the older more utilitarian design, you begin to see the beauty of the non-CAD parts, the simplicity and function of design - for instance the seat - my bottom side smile when I see that seat - where today they are so sculpted and products of Industrial Designers, that seat is utilitarian and simply purpose built - I find beauty in that...also the open-ness and simplicity of the engine area and how all parts and functions are apparent and simple and not "over engineered"...there is beauty in that - in not trying to create eye candy and Industrial Designs that "pop", but rather function well. The seating position is cool and that exhaust note is beyond amazing....I think it's cool because it is pure, purpose-built motorcycle. I would want one without the history - but that is a conundrum - it's the history and acceptance and panache of it's users that served to market it "forward" so to speak :-) . Ride Safe
Hello Jay,
Great ride. I own a 72 T120 White and Gold. I have owned it since 1972. I love the sound that is what gets to me.
Bob
Love the constant vibrato in Jsy’s voice during the ride. I used to take my brother’s Bonnie out for a spin and I’d have to shake the blood back into my hands at stop lights.
The Bonneville was my favorite bike when I was in the AF in the 60's. Recently I have been considering getting a new one. After all I'll be 76 this year and time is running out for me to get one. It will fit nicely with my 450sl my sl500 and my 96 corvette roadster.
It is what a motorcycle looks like and it's the kind of motorcycle that has a heartbeat.
if i had the money i would want one just like yours. just to have set in my living room. it IS a work of art.
Me too 😂 but I'll ride it too for the vibes 😂😂😂
Hello Jay, I love your videos. I've been riding bikes all my life. I now ride a Triumph Rocket Roadster. I only have one comment and that is would you please start wearing leather gloves when you ride. I've gone down a few times in my life and the hands are usually the first thing to hit the pavement. Thanks and please keep entertaining us.
I stopped wearing them after a guy at work hid them on the coldest day of the year! i find them restrictive, worste injury is grave embeded scraps! i managed to avoid.
A wise man once said:
None of that matters now coz i have the motorcycle.
It’s beautiful Jay because it is exactly how a motorcycles should look and perform.
Jay...I know I'm late to the party as well, (nor having as much experience with as many vehicles as you) but my take is that you're spot on with having a preference for the older stuff.
I have a 2017 Ford hybrid that I love dearly...but it will NEVER be my 1974 Super Beetle. It's a simpler vehicle, from a simpler time. It's also a more "honest" time: the older vehicles are honest with you--there's no computers to make up any shortcomings; also, YOU had to be "honest" with them--adjusting the valves, and doing more FOR the vehicle than just changing the oil and filling it with gas.
As for whether nostalgia is having part in your decisions; probably. I'm almost 50; growing up, the car I really wanted was a Beetle, and the bike was a Kawasaki police bike. (A main course of "Herbie" with a side order of CHiPs"?) Anyway...I know the new stuff is more "dependable" (read: maintenance-free, unless you have a computer science degree), but I'm good with my old stuff; it's got MOJO.
Hard to know what came first the beauty and ride characteristics or that fact that it grabbed us at that very impressionable age. But the truth remains it is one of the most beautiful and visually well balanced bikes made and a pure blast to ride. In my opinion. I owned a 66Bonneville. And currently owned a 67 Bonneville. All original. Life is good. Great show Jay. Dan Copeland
I preferred the T110. Faster than the thunderbird but not as fast as the T120 but very flexible on the open road or in traffic. Our British police force used them and they were called "The Saint"
It really is the most beautiful bike overall. They really peaked with the 68. I'm 38 and nothing like riding a Bonneville. It's the perfect mix for a really fun ride.
Great demo, great words, great question. Once owned a new 1973 Bonneville 750, way back in my native Belgium. Loved it to pieces. Life made me sell it after 20.000 miles. After 3 years in the US, bought a brand-new Bonnie T-1OO 900 cc. This Triumph did not lose its original soul and spirit. On the contrary. So much safer, faster, good-looking, and the same mountain lion roaring sound. Improved mechanics. A lot. So many people down the road ask me "how old is she ?'', inclining it is a perfectly preserved and well-kept bike, that they seem to remember from the '60s and the 70's. And it survived. So, ya, it is a true classic to the marrow of her bones. And, yes, Duke Leno, as to answer your question : for me it is absolutely NO nostalgia, it is pure and naked LOVE for one of the best bikes and handsome engines ever made on Planet Earth. As an artist, I consider her as a true and organic piece of art. All the lines are so well balanced and in proportion. May life continue to be good to you, as good as it has always been to mine. Thanks for taking the time for the RUclips jewel. Please be assured that the word "Duke" above, is meant as a huge Bonne Ville compliment. Personalities like you more than deserve to have a UK blue-blooded title before their last name. I take off my pandora and salute you. www.wallyasselberghs.be
There's nostalgia, and then there's standing the test of time. The mid 60s Bonny is the latter.
Back in the late '50s I loved the way the Triumph sounded. Like the sound of a steam locomotive, radial engine aircraft or nice pipes on a flathead Ford, it was unique and I miss it. I'm old and have some nice memories from the 40s-50s. And Jay is the best!
I love my 500 CC Royal enfield classic. Like you said, bikes from those times do have a character through how they work and their imperfections as opposed to the bikes of new era that has the character by looks and streamlined performances.
Wathing this now some 5 years after you posted. Great way of explaining emotions about a bike. its a feeling you get for different bikes. Just like you say, sunday morning and you "just wanna ride" ! or cruise ! Not to go fast, not too noisy either. Thats where you feel the Bonneville fits you. To answer you question , I think its a character somehow, of a machine that you feel differently. Not to do with beeing an old guy or just a nostalgica. Ive had a few bikes, from small 350´s to zzr1200 and a few chromesleds as well. Now the most fun is on my Buell X1. It shakes rattles and rolls. But its got a ton of pure and raw bike. Like nothing Ive ever ridden before. A bit brutal for some I guess, but I just love it. Kinda weird mix of old, the Harley 1200 engine thats been tuned by Buell,and all else is new , well not new anymore, built in 2001. Runs like it should. No issues with it. many dont get what I feel riding that bike. But thats it, taste and feel is a personal thing... :) but a great clip Jay ! Bonnevilles are beautyful bikes.
Hello Jay and thanks again for sharing this nostalgic piece of our youth. I remember fondly seeing this bike go by me in High School, always driven by rich, cool kids. I remember most was the throaty sound of these machines, and the envy I had for guys who could afford these machines, and had parents cool enough to buy them for them! It seemed these were the guys with the cheerleaders, or the dolls of the school, the ones who would never look at one of us peons who walked to school. So to answer your question Jay, I think there is a lot of nostalgia going on with this bike, and of course there is a lot of bike going on too! TY!
Thanks for the video, I wish I could answer your question,
I love the looks, the upright riding position, the torque curve and the remarkable handling, it just seems right.
I started riding in 1961, for the first ten years all of my bikes were made in England. Unfortunately I could never afford a new bike. But bikes were plentiful and cheap. After passing my test my first
"Big" bike was a speed twin. And a fine machine it was , I swapped it for a BSA A7SS. That started a love affair with BSAs
The 1960s was a golden age in England
A truly great time to be young. All of my
Friends had bikes, it was magical
2013 bonneville T100 owner here. I’m 43 and think Jay’s bike is a work of art. I’m glad he likes it and it’s cool he knows what he’s talking about when he talks about it
The mid-60's Triumphs are probably the prettiest bikes ever made - and this '64 is the prettiest of the lot. I'm about Jay's age, and my love for these has been shaped by my memories, but there is a reason the new Street Twin in my garage gets ridden more than my other bikes - not the fastest, but just more fun. This bike is even better at it, but I also remember pushing my '66 T120 TT for 5 miles when it locked up - and for real-world daily use, I am willing to sacrifice a lot more weight and a little less beauty to know that I will get home every time.
The Triumph twin was a beautiful engine. It was a work of art. I used to stare at that engine.
I would love to see Jay do a side by side with the Yamaha XS650's, and the Triumph Bonneville Yamaha's XS650's was their first 4 stroke, Was designed in England and built by Yamaha in Japan. Hitachi electrics still running perfectly on my 79 Special II 2F... 40 years and I still love it!
I have a '77 xs650 and it tops out at 100 mph. I want to see Jay go 120 on that Bonny!
A very good comparison to make, Decker. I am a fan of both the Bonneville and XS. The XS engine is a beauty, and perhaps by the late 60's, when production began, it is the design Triumph should have moved on to, with its overhead cam. However, the XS frames up to 74 could not hold a csndle to the Bonnie, but with the intrduction of the sturdier frame ( thanks to Percy Tait's rcommendations) my personal opinion is that the Yamaha 650 was an excellent bike, equal to the oil in frame T140, and possibly easier to live with and more reliable... just not a Triumph tho ...
I'm older than you, Jay, but I think it's fine to let nostalgia fuel enthusiasm for a great bike. When I was in high school in the early to mid fifties, a few guys had Triumphs and were the envy of us cool-obsessed boys. In the years since, I've ridden Hondas and Kawasakis on California racetracks, but I also have one of the newer Bonnies, and that's the bike that I like to take for what I call a "gentleman's ride." The new ones still look good, but they don't leak oil and always start (unlike a Triumph I had in the Marine Corps). I really love Jay Leno's Garage. (We met some years back at Laguna Seca when Ford introduced its re-born race car, and I appreciated that you had no entourage. Also, you may have known my brother, Geoff Edwards, a fellow TV host.)