I’ve been saying for years that sc2 could be resurrected in a big way with more focus on 2v2 matches and tournaments. It drastically shakes up the game, match ups, and unit comps
@@sydereal Agreed, pro 2v2 should be a the main thing either random teammate or in teams. 1v1 SC2 is stale compared to the glorious chaos that 2v2 can be.
@@I_am_Romey "servo" in this context is the Smart Servos upgrade for terran mech to make them transform/liftoff/land faster. In real life, a servomechanism (servo) is a device that responds to an input control signal to perform a specific mechanical action with precise control. Think those fancy looking smooth robot arms that build cars and stuff.
That Asl guy is a sign of bad luck. First he cowardly leaves the game vs you Then he tells you how he likes your channel and wants to be a part of a video Still makes you lose. Not the attitude I value, honestly. Glad Marc is taking it like a real pro that he is.
And admitting to abusing bugged cyclones like crazy. Definitely not a teammate I would ever want. You just know if it wasn't thermy, he'd be trash talking his teammate.
i'm always surprised when i hear people like you... then on the other hand, most people would be surprised how bad i am considering the knowledge i have of things like that xD
Marc: ...but is it really most fun way to play starcraft... Gamers: You are having fun playing starcraft? ;D Seriously, Marc is inspiration for all of us to try play starcraft in special tactics way like WhiteRa long time ago.
I love the opening monologue. Very Matrix: (Neo asks the Oracle their purpose is and the purpose of the Architect.) "What is the purpose of Meta?" "To find balance in the game." "What is uThermal's purpose?" "To find the fun imbalances. Of course."
Well he is playing against a known smurf and will most probably loose tha match. If that is a waste of his time leaving the match is understandable. It's not cowardice to dodge a battle U cannot win
Imagine getting to play against a great player who you watch all their youtube videos, and you just quit early because you believe you're gonna lose. I'll never understand the mindset of those people. Even if you lose you get to play against a good player.
I LOVE vikings, as a younger lad when WoL released i was absolutely fascinated by them. Even now, one of my favorite 2v2 and 3v3 strats is to play light and build up a squad of 10-16 vikings then run full harassment for the rest of the game until im forced to swap. Mass vikings is a blast. Watching a CC or hatch pop to a perfectly syncronized attack then flying away before they can rotate is just maximum neuron activation. By the way, youve done some insane challenges, but one of the OG challenges is the Orlan portrait, to win a 1v7 FFA against insane AI. This challenge got a lot harder after siege tanks were nerfed, and easier with the newer maps. Might be a fun little micro series, to win chaotic FFAs with cheese :)
Hey Marc! :) Super great teaching & showing out, that things works very well, even with diff weaker units, but can do a lot of things & have a great range & DPS fire :) I do such things to many randoms out there to in other games, showing em that things can be done, if we just team up & dps together & use common sense of tactics & pre reading the game, vs the enemy! :) It´s a such joy when things works out, Indeed it´s a happy moment as I can always see that in you! :) Many appreciate you a lot. Art of talents, talents of art, that is you!
Man I haven't payed sc2 since it launched but somehow you keep me interested! The new team stuff has been amazing to watch and as always keep in interesting!
I did sky only for years... Like, it was an actual challenge for me, I couldn't make a zealot, no stalkers, no cannons, if the enemy got units in my base before my first ships arrived, I was done. Turns out you can micro voidrays against marines... Tempests are also surprisingly good against most ground units with a good cliff harass... That was what I though in my gold league lol, was stuck at it for years... Now that I dipped my challenge, I actually started climbing the ladder, but stopped, bros don't play sc2 anymore ;-;
"it's fine, it's a good strategy, it gets you a lot of MMR, but is it the most fun way to play starcraft? I'm not so sure" this is such deep wisdom about life you're crazy Marc, in the best sense of the word, don't ever give that up, make sure one day you create a cult and teach your way to hordes of followers, in the meantime we'll keep following your live feeds on your quest for the quirkiest ways to play sc2 while auto-commenting it all, it's just so hilarious
YES SC Evo Complete! I like the format they have where you alternate BW/SC2 but even open selection could be strategic Good stuff, thanks for your vids, keep it up!
A game idea that i think would be cool: 2 vs X but all teammate does is farm/econ. They don’t build offensive or defensive units. But does send you all their money (except when they build Econ units/buildings) This would give you double or triple the economy but you would only have 200 supply you would have to use/protect. As for the X, maybe you could try to start 2 vs 2 (normal) … or you could try the 2 vs 12 bronze and see how much of a benefit it is if someone just gives you all their minerals and gas. I hope you like the idea.
I was actually just watching your old sc2 vs brood war videos and was hoping you would do more 1v1s against your pro friends. A set of brood war vs sc2 against harstem and other friends would be super entertaining
20:00 Would it not have been smarter to use at least 1 Queen inject energy for creep tumor and spread creep down the ramp so the probe can't place anymore structures?
_Shield Battery Overcharge ability removed._ _New ability added: Energy Overcharge. Energy Overcharge costs 50 Energy and recharges 100 Energy of the targeted _*_allied unit or structure_*_ with a maximum range of 8._ I think so...
If terran can Mule from 5+ orbital commands, make battery recharge cooldown independently for every nexus you have. Will we see macro nexi like we see macro hatcheries and macro orbitals? I would love it
I see mass carriers constantly in 2v2. This is so annoying. There should be a patch to prevent that, for e.g. increase a lot the supply for a carrier like it was done for the ghost. Most of the diamond toss in 2v2 is 0 APM 0 skills winners based on cannons+carriers
I agree. I think that youre super power is your creativity of play style. Even when you do raven hellion. Its never exactly the same in the same episode.
Hey! Your voice audio is a bit odd in this one. Is clipping soon as you stop talking, sounds like tsssp at the end of the sentence. Just letting you know if you've changed your settings.
Why terran has so many Harrass units.... reapers,viking, battleship, Helion, cyclone and liberators vs toss oracle, dark temar, voidray even while the zerg has nothing but muta which can't even be called harassing since they have the least chance of escaping compared to the units I mention. You legit have to sacrifice zerg units to harass while the other 2 get to recycle and reply
I know Marc isn't about that broken cyclone, but I think it would be cool if he made one, sort of like the one reaper, and give it a consistent hero name, like Jim Raynor or something, and the goal is to keep such one-of-hero units alive. (or have them do some epic, heroic work and perish on a well described thought out death mission where surviving is against all odds) Maybe a thought out mission is to scout out and specifically take out a terrans first expansion SCV/(s), or zerg/protoss 3rd base drone/probe before the base gets made.
dont ever stop doing team stuff, its quite fun to watch.
This is true. I now watch uthermal more than lowko and harstem ✌🏻🤣 all are great tho
I’ve been saying for years that sc2 could be resurrected in a big way with more focus on 2v2 matches and tournaments. It drastically shakes up the game, match ups, and unit comps
Agreed. I watch these every day!
@@sydereal Agreed, pro 2v2 should be a the main thing either random teammate or in teams.
1v1 SC2 is stale compared to the glorious chaos that 2v2 can be.
22:41 Hoosierdaddy here. That was a lot of fun. Thanks for all the awesome content. Big fan of the channel. Thanks uThermal! 🎉
I saw him being your daddy, I think it was your first together. Great fun ;)
That second game was amazing, mate. For a moment you became the final boss - and got a win out of it. Very well done 👍
Cannon rushing piece of crap
@@NedSchneebly-eh7kh I'm guessing you haven't figured out countering it yet?
@@NedSchneebly-eh7kh Solid 1v2 strategy, if you have the money for it. Clearly. Whatever works, right?
14:00 "That's why you get servos, baby!" So good, lmao
That poor protoss player was so demoralized by the dodge they dipped *immediately*
@@whitewolf_nl yeah, him leaving instantly afterwards was hilarious xD
Nightmares of Vikings for that protoss.
that was hilarious. but what doees servos mean in that context? Im aussie, and servos = service station XD
@@I_am_Romey "servo" in this context is the Smart Servos upgrade for terran mech to make them transform/liftoff/land faster. In real life, a servomechanism (servo) is a device that responds to an input control signal to perform a specific mechanical action with precise control. Think those fancy looking smooth robot arms that build cars and stuff.
I used to go mass viking in 2v2. Everyone was mass carrier that time. I called it "whale hunting" 🐋
That's so good lmao
thar she blows!
That Asl guy is a sign of bad luck.
First he cowardly leaves the game vs you
Then he tells you how he likes your channel and wants to be a part of a video
Still makes you lose.
Not the attitude I value, honestly. Glad Marc is taking it like a real pro that he is.
And admitting to abusing bugged cyclones like crazy. Definitely not a teammate I would ever want. You just know if it wasn't thermy, he'd be trash talking his teammate.
Yeah bad look for this guy in this video. Two opportunities to show what he was like and failed both times.
@@TheRevMuun Oh yes! I forgot to mention that part. Thanks)
I was looking for a comment like this one. I agree, not a fan of this guy
@@nickshomeandlawncare6116 he succeeded actually
That Game 1 disruptor dodge followed by instant GGs was perfect comedic timing
From J Epstein nonetheless.
14:00
"Protoss workers are mechanical and they die in two shots from a viking" 5:40
Makes me feel like I know nothing about starcraft
i'm always surprised when i hear people like you...
then on the other hand, most people would be surprised how bad i am considering the knowledge i have of things like that xD
The dodge at 14:00 is so satisfying
Like I'm watching cutscene once again
Marc: "Now I will be able to drop a lot of stasises". Never places a single stasis for the rest of the game.
Username checks out
Marc: ...but is it really most fun way to play starcraft... Gamers: You are having fun playing starcraft? ;D Seriously, Marc is inspiration for all of us to try play starcraft in special tactics way like WhiteRa long time ago.
I love the opening monologue. Very Matrix: (Neo asks the Oracle their purpose is and the purpose of the Architect.)
"What is the purpose of Meta?" "To find balance in the game."
"What is uThermal's purpose?" "To find the fun imbalances. Of course."
That liftoff to avoid the disruptor was so clean.
Destroying marc after your teammate ragequits is priceless 😂 I’d have saved that replay for sure
asl acknowledges he's being recorded on one of the most popular channels, proceeds to show everyone he's a coward.
coward?, a fing b
Then proceeds to admit he's been abusing the bugged cyclones. What a POS
That dude is a dog for sure.
@@inocheckblindspotmaybe don’t be so angry about some guy playing a video game, no need to be so mean about it.
Well he is playing against a known smurf and will most probably loose tha match. If that is a waste of his time leaving the match is understandable. It's not cowardice to dodge a battle U cannot win
You got scouted early on "Hi RUclips"... LOL
Blink Colossus - I know it's just name for composition from colossus and blink stalkers but imagine what it would be if colossus could blink for real.
Harstem played on a mod one time where all units have blink
@@hangover89 blink immortals 💀
> Blink colossus
“Mom pick me up I’m scared”
1:39 I heard Stephen Fry reply, "Hello, Pocoyo!"
31:58 marc is like a battered housewife who dosent want her husband to leave
13:50 No they had storm; used it on your vikings in their main.
he just f2 move while focus was on the army on the ledge above. Templars were just passing and kept passing.
16:55 „Oh no, it's happening - I'm losing to my own nonsense! 😲😅“
That was perfect. And very much in the spirit of this channel. 👍
Imagine getting to play against a great player who you watch all their youtube videos, and you just quit early because you believe you're gonna lose. I'll never understand the mindset of those people. Even if you lose you get to play against a good player.
I LOVE vikings, as a younger lad when WoL released i was absolutely fascinated by them. Even now, one of my favorite 2v2 and 3v3 strats is to play light and build up a squad of 10-16 vikings then run full harassment for the rest of the game until im forced to swap.
Mass vikings is a blast. Watching a CC or hatch pop to a perfectly syncronized attack then flying away before they can rotate is just maximum neuron activation.
By the way, youve done some insane challenges, but one of the OG challenges is the Orlan portrait, to win a 1v7 FFA against insane AI. This challenge got a lot harder after siege tanks were nerfed, and easier with the newer maps. Might be a fun little micro series, to win chaotic FFAs with cheese :)
Hey Marc! :)
Super great teaching & showing out, that things works very well, even with diff weaker units, but can do a lot of things & have a great range & DPS fire :)
I do such things to many randoms out there to in other games, showing em that things can be done, if we just team up & dps together & use common sense of tactics & pre reading the game, vs the enemy! :)
It´s a such joy when things works out, Indeed it´s a happy moment as I can always see that in you! :)
Many appreciate you a lot. Art of talents, talents of art, that is you!
Brood war + SC2 Terran vs BW +SC2 Zerg 2v2
Hello from Transylvania! Dracula Jr. here! :) Great content as always! You're my favorite!
2nd game HoosierDaddy is familiar! I forgot the video though
vikings "bonus vs mechanical when they are on the ground" is still one of the funniest things to me idk why
Man i am just on a binge of your videos. Your energy is comfy and crazy and both are just the perfect vibe
HoosierDaddy! As a fellow Hoosier (a semi-obscure term for someone from the state of Indiana in the US), always exciting.
seen him a few times. good luck to Indiana in the playoffs.
Man I haven't payed sc2 since it launched but somehow you keep me interested! The new team stuff has been amazing to watch and as always keep in interesting!
you do you man. thats why we watch. ignore the meta. love it
I’ve been playing the sc: evo mod a ton and it’s so much fun, would love to see you play that mod more!
Mass vikings are sick. Can be super aggressive. Works well with cyclones or a few medvacs with tanks. Or Thors...
I did sky only for years... Like, it was an actual challenge for me, I couldn't make a zealot, no stalkers, no cannons, if the enemy got units in my base before my first ships arrived, I was done.
Turns out you can micro voidrays against marines... Tempests are also surprisingly good against most ground units with a good cliff harass... That was what I though in my gold league lol, was stuck at it for years...
Now that I dipped my challenge, I actually started climbing the ladder, but stopped, bros don't play sc2 anymore ;-;
"it's fine, it's a good strategy, it gets you a lot of MMR, but is it the most fun way to play starcraft? I'm not so sure"
this is such deep wisdom about life
you're crazy Marc, in the best sense of the word, don't ever give that up, make sure one day you create a cult and teach your way to hordes of followers, in the meantime we'll keep following your live feeds on your quest for the quirkiest ways to play sc2 while auto-commenting it all, it's just so hilarious
I like how there's more and more engagement from the teammate in 2v2! So cool when the team play comes together.
YES SC Evo Complete! I like the format they have where you alternate BW/SC2 but even open selection could be strategic
Good stuff, thanks for your vids, keep it up!
I'm loving HoosierDaddy's arc on this channel lately.
I think Vikings might be my favourite terran unit. Great video!
does recharge work on ravens?
A game idea that i think would be cool: 2 vs X but all teammate does is farm/econ. They don’t build offensive or defensive units. But does send you all their money (except when they build Econ units/buildings)
This would give you double or triple the economy but you would only have 200 supply you would have to use/protect.
As for the X, maybe you could try to start 2 vs 2 (normal) … or you could try the 2 vs 12 bronze and see how much of a benefit it is if someone just gives you all their minerals and gas.
I hope you like the idea.
pretty sure that is commander or something like that. I remember sc2 folks playing it a decade ago.
@@ch420newsteam If true, would be cool to see Marc did it vs people who aren’t playing that way.
He has a video where he played only micro while his teammate did only macro. Search it up! 😊
@ I have seen it. However, it was the same “person”. Two people controlling the same team. I mean a DPS/tank/defense only and a support only.
Picking up those Vikings to avoid the disruptor was sick
that cannon rush with 2 people's eco was stronk af, I wonder if you should try that in a 2v2 have a mule just disconnect and try a 1v2 strat cheese
I was actually just watching your old sc2 vs brood war videos and was hoping you would do more 1v1s against your pro friends. A set of brood war vs sc2 against harstem and other friends would be super entertaining
Viking lifting up from disruptor nova is true art!
20:00 Would it not have been smarter to use at least 1 Queen inject energy for creep tumor and spread creep down the ramp so the probe can't place anymore structures?
lmao the instant quit when you jump rope that disruptor blast
i love the team games so much.. I hope he doesnt get burnt out by them
I'm loving these multi-player matches with the absolute bat shit insane builds. So much fun to watch.
That ASL guy is absolutely everything that's wrong with the SC2 community.
That disruptor dodge was so damn slick
can you recharge the energy from a ghost with an allies nexus?
_Shield Battery Overcharge ability removed._
_New ability added: Energy Overcharge. Energy Overcharge costs 50 Energy and recharges 100 Energy of the targeted _*_allied unit or structure_*_ with a maximum range of 8._
I think so...
@@corbeau-_- awesome. uthermal should make some cheese with that.
@@TheTodesrolle you could charge a cc too xD
mule madness.
I would love to see whatever sort of SC Evo tournament you put on:)
I stole your “King” line. Highly appreciate it. People seem to respond quite favorably
Does vikings have upgrade from air when they land?
yes. It allows Hellions, Hellbats, Vikings, and Thors to transform quickly between combat modes.
for the evo 2v2 cup, i think it would be most fun to watch same races (2Z vs 2T) but 1 bw on each team
Could the battery overcharge be used on a teammates unit to do some really weird stuff?
Dude I love your energy recharge plays
That disruptor dodge was slick.
I can confirm losing isn't fun. But somehow Marc makes watching someone lose doing insane cheeses is 100% fun.
I have done mass vikings, it didn't work that great for me. But I could probably find some room for improvement.
That game 1, 2t Vs 2p was awesome!
14:00 Yeah I'd leave after that too 😂😂 nice dodge
Is there a game mode where you can cap the APM each player is allowed to make?
Hi Pocoyo
14:01 New catchphrase!
Stasis Cup: mixed vs mixed. I want to see what combos the pros come up with.
uThermal discovers how OP Vikings are in some 2v2 matchups
of course the guy that forfeits the second match without even trying admits to abusing the cyclones in the 3rd match
Loving the team games!! That guy quitting just because its simply you was great!
Is it possible to energy recharge a teammates raven?
mass oracle probably needs the old zerg strat for nexus energy
Evo show match would be a lot of fun. Any of the ideas I think would be fun. Random would be hilarious.
If terran can Mule from 5+ orbital commands, make battery recharge cooldown independently for every nexus you have. Will we see macro nexi like we see macro hatcheries and macro orbitals? I would love it
the reason people play team games is that they want to see giant armies beat giants armies
I love the 2v2 3v3 content
For Evo, Id love to see something like Zerg + BW Zerg vs Terran + BW Terran
A 1v1 or 2v2 against Warcraft units (with the azeroth mod) could be fun.
For evo tourney, do SC1/SC2 same race teams.
I dont even play starcraft, but micro'ing like that on 242 ping is nuts
How are you playing on Emerald City?
Are cyclones still bugged or has it been fixed?
Save the scv at 6:30 by using it to build the cc
If you’ve got 2 low mmr terrans, one can go marine/tank and the other can go marine/viking
Did schappli suddenly turn 37 or new camera?
Bruh every video since 2 years I think so , ty for every day of ur content
I see mass carriers constantly in 2v2. This is so annoying. There should be a patch to prevent that, for e.g. increase a lot the supply for a carrier like it was done for the ghost. Most of the diamond toss in 2v2 is 0 APM 0 skills winners based on cannons+carriers
I agree. I think that youre super power is your creativity of play style. Even when you do raven hellion. Its never exactly the same in the same episode.
uThermal is almost single-handedly getting more people to play 2v2, lol
You know what oracle/phoenix shoudl be fun!
01:40 - Hi Pocoyo
Hey! Your voice audio is a bit odd in this one. Is clipping soon as you stop talking, sounds like tsssp at the end of the sentence. Just letting you know if you've changed your settings.
Why terran has so many Harrass units.... reapers,viking, battleship, Helion, cyclone and liberators vs toss oracle, dark temar, voidray even while the zerg has nothing but muta which can't even be called harassing since they have the least chance of escaping compared to the units I mention. You legit have to sacrifice zerg units to harass while the other 2 get to recycle and reply
Seems like all you get on the ladder is all ins. Normally a photon all in, sometimes you get the carrier all in
Harstem/uThermal collab when?? Mebbi get a 3rd for a crew..
You guys could bring havoc with your shennanigans
Damn!! Those bully oracles.
I know Marc isn't about that broken cyclone, but I think it would be cool if he made one, sort of like the one reaper, and give it a consistent hero name, like Jim Raynor or something, and the goal is to keep such one-of-hero units alive. (or have them do some epic, heroic work and perish on a well described thought out death mission where surviving is against all odds) Maybe a thought out mission is to scout out and specifically take out a terrans first expansion SCV/(s), or zerg/protoss 3rd base drone/probe before the base gets made.
You helped my headache go away
Awesome video, as always :-)
use mroe stasis around your army when fighting