"As most of you know, my team Smoed from the California All-Stars did not do our best this weekend. We had mistakes day 1 and day 2. No we are not perfect, we're human. But quite frankly, I think some people forget that we all have feelings. Social media, in my eyes, is part of the reason why the cheer world is deteriorating. It opens doors for people to point out our flaws and mistakes without actually staring at us in the face and saying it in person. We see these hateful comments. Does it make you all feel better bashing on us? I'm curious. All of the comments and tweets about Smoed this weekend have really hurt my heart, and I think I could say the same for the rest of my team and my coaches. But, the moment some athletes try to stand up for themselves, they are torn right back down. It's okay for you all to make fun of us and say we're irrelevant, making us feel worthless right? But when we respond, say something about it, or tweet back, we are seen as big bullies. I'm just wondering why people are judging us so negatively? I'm curious. A flyer headed face first toward the mat day 1 and that's all people can talk about and retweet on twitter; in the meantime, we have multiple athletes throwing full whip double punch backs and boss ass girls throwing 5 jumps to full. It's like people only focus on the negatives these days, not only with Smoed but with other teams as well. What happened to cheerleading? This sport is all about predictions, hatred toward KIDS, rumors, and drama. It's just cheerleading. Can we just go back to the cheerleading I fell in love with when I was a young girl?" -Lauren Kubiske from SMOED's blog post about NCA. Can everyone please take a moment to read this if you haven't already: she speaks the TRUUUTH.
paige zacharias it was one tooth that came loose, a bunch didn't chip out and they all didn't get knocked loose lmao wtf, that's quite an exaggeration, her mouth would've been a waterfall of blood if that happened.
Good on them for ending the routine well, their pyramid was great and all of the tumbling is insane. kudos to lily for soldiering on, and the team for finishing on a positive note. Smoed is going to have a good go at it again tomorrow, no matter if you are commenting about how "bad" they were today, and have already decided it's not their year. This year has really proven who Smoed's real fans are. If you can't support them when they're dropping their stunts, then you can't jump on the bandwagon when they hit. Hoping for the best tomorrow and for the remainder of the season. We all know they deserve a higher raw score than what they have, which if they hit tomorrow, we will hopefully see. (:
Can I just say, Lily has improved so much! She came from a level 4 team and jumped on to Smoed. That doesnt sound like an easy transition but she has done very well! She looks up to par with all the other flyers on the team! Good job Lily and hope you are okay after that fall.
compared to some of the routines done on day 1, this isn't even bad. just because they're a well known team doesn't give people the right to bash them just because they didn't hit. yes, brandon will probably win NCA and well done if they do. but you don't have to bring smoed down just to make them look better.
If you are one of those people that laughed when Lily fell and/or publicly made fun of her and the team on twitter, then you are a really shitty person and deserve to have a really bad fall at the biggest competition you attend. I cannot believe how there are people that actually enjoyed themselves looking at a team do bad and a little kid falling hard on the floor. And what angers me most, is that some of those people are actually cheerleaders. The cheer community is a community built on support, love, passion and sportsmanship. There is no place in our community for people like you. You know who you are. If it makes you content that a team is struggling in the biggest competition, then you are an ugly nasty and horrible individual and no will never go far in cheer. Trust me, you won't. By the way, Lily has a loose tooth and a really fat lip right now.
***** Well since your not a cheerleader you would never understand the amount of pressure we feel while competing also you wouldn't understand that in cheer we all root for each other there should be no bashing , we already have to deal with so many people bashing our sport why bash each other?
***** That is very rude. You're not a fan cuz they're not doing all that great this season? We don't care if you're not a fan of Smoed anymore. There are others that are staying true to Smoed and rooting for the team no matter what, through thick and thin. And to laugh for someone to fall and get injured? Completely sick, how would you feel like if you were flying (which I really doubt) and you fell and got injured? Would you still like to have others laughing at you? No, right? You need to relax and show some respect or you won't get any yourself.
Malia's post on instagram was very heartfelt. If you haven't seen it it basically said how nobody should make fun of their team because everyone makes mistakes. This performance wasn't the best but they always surprise us at Worlds!
***** I'm not saying you shouldn't drop your flyers because of a deduction . Who cares for that reason . As long as the flyer is caught . It shouldn't happen at all . I see your point of view but I have mine as well . She could've gotten hurt badly . I understands mistakes . But there should be more ways to prevent a flyer from being dropped . I've never dropped a flyer and will always continue to not do that . Have a good day !
In most cases you have to hit rock bottom before you can be the best that you can be, and this was definitely their rock bottom/wakeup call. Being the team that they are and seeing how they did this weekend, only makes me more excited for the rest of the season because the only thing they can do now is perform better and prove everyone that had something negative to say, or laugh about, wrong
I think considering they have a new boy and changed a lot of the routine, Smoed did really well. Despite what others are saying, Smoed does, and always will, have a chance to win worlds.
Poor lily! I don't care about what people have to say about smoed and this routine I just hope she's okay. That was a terrible fall I hope she recovers fast! Best wishes to Smoed on the rest of their season. ❤
im not surprised they did this bad, not that it was terrible. They have always been a day 2 team, and with all the drama from outside people, and having the hardest routine in their division it was bound to default. Im def not writing them out of worlds yet, once they hit this routine I know theyll be amazing as usual. I just with Orby and Eddie stopped traveling around helping other teams and focus on their teams at home.
I love the fact they still finish strong this just shows us that even the best teams can have mistake is shows they need to figure out what went wrong and make it stronger. Sorry for the little that fell hope your doing better.
I feel like their routine is always the same. I like smoed but I just feel that the pyramid is always similar to the year before. I would love to see some new stunts and pyramid or something they haven't done before. I'm not saying they are bad, I just want to see something new especially since their team has great athletes.
If and once this routine gets cleaned up, I think they just might edge out Brandon. But that's a big if. Brandon has been stupid consistent this year and Smoed is so wishy-washy that I'm not even sure what to expect from Smoed anymore. If your routine does not hit, your routine will inadvertently have a lower raw score. For some reason this is just the case. Cheer Sport Great White's routine was a wreck and they have a raw score of like 96.4. Considering what their competition is doing versus what G-dubs are performing, I would expect them to have a raw score of 97-98. SoT Royalty has a pretty low raw score (I think in the 95s), where I'm sure a bunch of people know damn well that their raw score should be a lot higher, but because they had a bunch of issues, their score is just lower than it should be (that and they were like the first medium coed team to go on). I don't think people should be saying it isn't Smoed's year just yet. Smoed lost NCA in 2013 and they won Worlds the same year. They're still a huge threat, they just need more cleaning up to do. Also, where's Jacob (Joey? Something that starts with a J)? He was probably the strongest or second strongest boy on the team and this new guy (while very talented), is just not an upgrade. Also I want to add: kudos to Lily! She looks a LOT better in the air than at Palm Springs competition! I do wish her legs were more together when she's doubling down in her baskets and stunts, but she has majorly improved. The stunt group as a whole looks so much better now. I hope she's alright though; that was a nasty fall.
the raw score is like the starting value - so what the routine would get if you hit 0. the deductions are deducted from your raw score to give you the final score. BSB's raw score is 98.80, but since they got .5 in deductions, their final score is 98.30. smoed's raw score is 97.30, which is already a lower starting value, so even if they had hit they still wouldn't have gotten ahead of brandon.
Yeah, Brandon has the highest raw score of the entire competition. I'm not surprised. It's definitely well deserved. The raw score *should* be the starting value, but in reality it really isn't. I realize Smoed isn't the best looking team right now, but there is no way their raw score should be the 5th or 6th highest. Absolutely no way. At least it should be the third, at most second. Different competition but same scenario: F5 had a raw score 5 points higher than everyone at Worlds in semi-finals, but they had 4.5 points in deductions at finals and came in third? In reality that raw score should've been high enough to win Worlds, but they placed third? How does that work?
l0ol0ool you mean world's last year? Yeah I don't know either. Same thing with Top Gun winning the division this year despite a major stunt fall. Like how come it only works out for certain teams that get in that situation and not everyteam in that situation.
Yeah, I was talking about Worlds last year. I'm still so salty and I don't care who knows. I don't know how Top Gun won by nearly .2. But Cheetahs had a deduction too, but as for what I don't know. I was expecting it to be a lot closer and Cheetahs edging them out, if anything.
wow in case you haven't noticed, smoed has won worlds for times. 3 in a row! i would like to see you hit a perfect routine with no mistakes, win worlds 4 times, and being a 3 time world champ in a row. i bet you can't
The thing is, their routine wasn't even bad after the major fall with Lily, and she's a complete trooper for getting up and finishing that routine with 110%.
I have said it on many videos before and will continue to say it; it takes more than one person to make a stunt, and even though its easy to blame a flyer for a fall (ie Angelina fell, she always falls, why isn't she being replaced??) You have no idea what is happening within that stunt group and whose to blame. Sure, it can be the flyers fault, but it can be the way the bases gripped her foot or the sudden shift in motion. Its not easy to spin, switch feet and pull lines whilst standing on peoples hands. Just because Angelina came down doesnt mean its her fault and her fault only. This is a three time world champion team - the coaches know what they need to do in order to win.. trust them.
Ummm are we not gonna talk about how committed sis was to the heel stretch even when she fell? Like dangggggg you go girl. Honestly I don’t even care if she fell
all of you guys who are making fun off lilly remember she is only 12 and that even though that must of really hurt she still continued the routine with a smile, so proud of my little cousin lets bring back the rings next year.
I believe that this routine is definitely more difficult than all the other small coed routines but it is definitely not as well executed as the other small coed routines. Its not about difficulty, its about execution and technique. They really need to lower the level of this routine because I have not seen them hit it perfectly yet this season and teams like BSB, and beatles are doing awesome. I love Smoed and I hope that they clean this routine so it can be amazing.
OMG!! For this comp they did kinda bad with falls and bobbles. Last season they were so good and this season not as much but they can improve and prove us wrong. They are one of the best top teams so they can either make it or break it. But i love you guys so much!!!! GOOD LUCK!!! SMOED
they don't. They have the fifth highest raw score and they only 8.90 for stunt difficulty which was lower than KC Cheer, ICE Thunder, Brandon, Rockstar and others.
I wasn't going off of the score . I was going off of the amount of energy it takes to perform the skills they perform . Tumbling, jumps & stunts all together. They have 7 people doing 5 series jumps to full. The standing tumbling isn't the regular back handspring whip to double, but bounce backs . Idk about you but I'd be beyond tired . The caliber of difficulty is not the same as the other teams .Their routine showcases harder skills & at a greater ratio. Unfortunately they didn't execute .
whos to say . when i competed at nca for high school my team had ended up with 91.59 for our final score for day 1 and our deductions(we dropped a stunt) were around 1.25 or something so that would bring us to a raw score around 92.84 . Then the next day we didnt drop a stunt and our raw score was 95.52 with .5 deduction which finished us 1st with 95.02 for day 2. Im just saying. 92.84 and 95.52 as a raw score; Thats a big difference . So im sure it would make a huge difference for smoed if they'd hit
All I could think about throughout the perform was about that girl who smacked her chin on the floor. But anyway Smoed is soooo clean its ridiculous, they've really been trained well. Even through the mistakes they don't let it affect any other part of the routine. And they are also really smart I watched a pass that I knew wouldn't be able to throw a double and they didn't which was very smart on their part.
I think they should switch Angelina's stunt group with Madi or Lauren, they're both veteran flyers and were both very consistent when ever they flew. I've never seen Lauren drop a stunt. Angelina is a great flyer, but it's also crunch time for Smoed, it's almost time for worlds and you need to be consistent. Whatever happens, I wouldn't count smoed out they always bring a stellar performance.
So proud of Lily for pushing through after that fall💜💜 Maybe Smoed aren't as strong and consitent as earlier years but I'm gonna support them nonetheless! Go Smoed!❤️🏆🏆
in my opinion, Angelina and her stunt group really need to step it up because they have fallen in almost every comp smoed has attended so far. I surprised I haven't seen eddie grilling her or even replacing her. Don't get me wrong, I love all the smo's especially Angelina, but she really needs that stunt to hit more.
omg lily is so strong!! i think that really hurt... and why Eddie and orby make the Routine more difficult when they dont even hit the easiest Routine at the beginning of the season...?
I hate how they don't have SMOED Awesomeness Tv anymore but omg I feel so bad for the girl who got dropped D: she looks new and I haven't seen her. Props to her for pushing through.
Everyone has their ups and downs, but smoed is always gonna get back up and try even harder after a rough day. Mistakes happen. Unless you can do everything they can do, then you should not be criticizing.
No way, smoed has and always will be a day 2 team they will come back day 2 and slay bsb, and if for some reason bsb beats smoed. Smoed will beat them at worlds
Some of you guys are fake. When Smoed doesn't hit some people go to BSB, then when BSB doesn't hit they go back to Smoed. Why do you have to pick one team over another? You can easily like both, or just one. But don't hate on either of them, if you're an all star cheerleader you know exactly how it feels.
Because you people made fun of them and their stunts they won worlds... Its true haters make me famous Cuz ppl was hatin on smoed and the took that anger and put it in cheer now they won worlds wat u gotta say
I think it's hilarious how everyone is all "poor smoed" and "it just isn't there year" but when Brandon didn't do amazing at like Worlds everyone was all "oh Brandon just really suck" like, are you kidding me?
That is SUCH a lie and you know it. Go on ANY video of the last 3 years of Worlds of Brandon and all you will see is "if they had hit, they would have won". Even when Smoed wins they still get talked down, so no, no one ever says how much "Brandon sucks"
skylar i understand that lol but as a cheerleader at an eight time worlds chamion and five time summit champions and 35 nca and cheersport champions i respect my gyms opinions because you cannot break or sprain a back from falling on it you'll just be breathless for a few small seconds. but anything else you fall on will most likely break or sprain or pop out. i have witnessed a girl fall and snap her arm in half. but thats just our opinion
Awwww I feel so bad for the girl in the first stunt that fell it look like it hurt really bad and it was hard to watch the whole thing because they kept dropping stunts but I hope they do better tomorrow because I really love smoed!!!!
1. I just want to share about their music and energy. Music guides and boost there energy in the floor. why they cant change as California Allstars Smoed Worlds 2013 music does.
Poor Lily :( that was an awful fall. Smoed is just having a terrible year, all these new people coming in and out, Madi transitioning to basing, and just a new team as a whole. The flyers are like 12-13. Their still learning, but they have improved so much since the first competition :) interesting what will happen at Worlds
Because she is an amazing cheerleader and Smoed is a team only for amazing cheerleaders like her. And honestly, your opinion is irrelevant and shows how little you know about cheer, seeing that you consider - 4 tucks bhs doubles, 2 to whip full bounce back through to doubles, this whole elite stunt section, 7 freaking people doing 5 jumps to full, 2 punches over another person's leg through to a double, this killer pyramid, 3 standing fulls at the very end of the routine and a 12 year old beast hitting the shit out of this routine after a very bad fall, - "sucking".
How is my opinion irrelevant, but yours isnt? I have just as much right as you do to share an "irrelevant" opinion. It's honestly hilarious how people get upset when someone else doesn't share the same opinion as them. You don't need to be an expert in cheer to see how many bobbles or falls they had. But for your info I used to be an all star cheerleader for 5 years. I was basing my opinion off of their team from the last couple of years and from their last couple of performances. Out of ALL their performances this year they have only hit only hit once or twice. Lets be honest, smoed is just not how they used to be. Most of their fliers lack flexibility. im surprised eddie and orby even have them as fliers. Maddie is an amazing flier, why they have her basing no one knows. They wear the mess out of Angel. Yes, she's a good tumbler, but one can only handle so much. they have her throwing so many passes, then she goes right into stunting. it's a no wonder she fell in one of her passes. Majority of outsiders on the team join smoed to have a chance to win the championship seeing that smoed has won it 3 years in a row. From the looks of the team now, it will be a miracle if they win this year. Funny how other people basically said the same thing as me, but you only want to say something to me. LOL, just face it. not EVERYONE is a fan of smoed.
Madi* isn't a flyer be she has become too tall where her stunt would consistently fall. I agree they haven't hit a lot, but remember they can get back at the top easily.
If you look, Nick and Marci (I think her name is from SSX) literally dove to try to get Lily. Don't attack them for Lily falling. It isn't Lily's fault or the base's fault. Its the entire stunt group as a whole. Stunt's fall all of the time. Even if the most consistent stunt group on a team has their bad days and fall. Falls aren't really preventable. They happen to everyone from Tiny 1 to Open 6. Just because Cali SMOED is a well known team, people are going to make it a bigger deal if they fall which is stupid because they have mistakes too. For RAW scores, you really can't judge everyone's RAW scores because each competition has a different way of evaluating raw scores. For example CEA Senior Elite had the highest raw score I think at Cheersport (don't quote me). Then at NCA, they had like the 5th highest raw score in their division. So it varies, and it varies on who is judging. Don't base a teams season off of a raw score at one competition... I personally love SMOED. But I did lose respect for some of their team members after they tweeted stuff. Don't judge the team though. It was some individuals & a coach... Not the entire team...More then 3/4ths of that team kept their mouth shut. So, don't judge the entire team...
This routine is very difficult. But clearly they're not ready for such a hard routine because they haven't been able to hit it yet. They should probably go back to the easier stuff and then for worlds, kill it with the difficult routine.
His name is Nick and he's replacing Jacob but a lot of people just think it's temporary because Jacob still talks about smoed like he's on the team still.
I'm excited to see who comes out on top this year for worlds Smoed ( I'm hopping will make it a 4peat once again ) They have the best attitude towards everything and even they had a bad performance they still keep their chins up throughout the rest of the competition. Brandon doesn't have the best sportsmanship . Worlds 2013 & 2014 proved they don't have the motivation to want to win When ONE stunt falls everything changes in the way they perform and you can see it when they walk off the mat too.
Pretty sure everyone that doesn't hit walks off the mat disappointed. They are great sportsmanship wise, I don't even know what you're on about. 2013 worlds was the worst for them. Any team that would perform like that would be incredibly upset.
2013 for Brandon was the worst yes i agree with you ... AND yes every team would be disappointed if they didn't hit perfect BUT besides that ... Brandon dropped one stunt during the stunt section and i think thats what caused all the other mess-ups. With the other stunts that didn't hit ( In my opinion ) they didn't try to save any of them They lost the motivation
personally I think smoed is great, but I think the problem is this season is that the stunt groups don't have as much chemistry as they need and so they're not connecting therefor the stunts are going up and staying up as smoothly as they should be. just my opinion.
Does anyone have an update on Lily? I can't even begin to critique this routine because I can't get past how horrible that fall was, and how much of a fighter Lily is. She had no problems with her group stunts after that, it was incredible to watch. I'm reading on here that knocked a few teeth loose? Dear god I hope she's okay.
Stop saying they should have caught that little girl, they didn't just let her fall. The position she fell in was really hard for the bases to catch her, I'm a base and I will always try to catch my flyer, but sometimes they fall awkwardly and your just not able to. So cut her bases some slack because they did try to catch her.
lets stay calm and believe with the new bunch of smoed army and dont forget BRADON never hits! LOL cant wait for the worlds ... orby and edie c'mon lets slay! slay! slay!
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"As most of you know, my team Smoed from the California All-Stars did not do our best this weekend. We had mistakes day 1 and day 2. No we are not perfect, we're human. But quite frankly, I think some people forget that we all have feelings. Social media, in my eyes, is part of the reason why the cheer world is deteriorating. It opens doors for people to point out our flaws and mistakes without actually staring at us in the face and saying it in person. We see these hateful comments. Does it make you all feel better bashing on us? I'm curious.
All of the comments and tweets about Smoed this weekend have really hurt my heart, and I think I could say the same for the rest of my team and my coaches. But, the moment some athletes try to stand up for themselves, they are torn right back down. It's okay for you all to make fun of us and say we're irrelevant, making us feel worthless right? But when we respond, say something about it, or tweet back, we are seen as big bullies.
I'm just wondering why people are judging us so negatively? I'm curious. A flyer headed face first toward the mat day 1 and that's all people can talk about and retweet on twitter; in the meantime, we have multiple athletes throwing full whip double punch backs and boss ass girls throwing 5 jumps to full. It's like people only focus on the negatives these days, not only with Smoed but with other teams as well. What happened to cheerleading? This sport is all about predictions, hatred toward KIDS, rumors, and drama. It's just cheerleading. Can we just go back to the cheerleading I fell in love with when I was a young girl?"
-Lauren Kubiske from SMOED's blog post about NCA. Can everyone please take a moment to read this if you haven't already: she speaks the TRUUUTH.
Props to that girl who was dropped on her face and kept competing with a smile! Hope she's okay!
yes i hope to... :(
A bunch of her teeth chipped and they all got knocked loose.
paige zacharias
really??
paige zacharias it was one tooth that came loose, a bunch didn't chip out and they all didn't get knocked loose lmao wtf, that's quite an exaggeration, her mouth would've been a waterfall of blood if that happened.
paige zacharias this is an old thread but you’re still annoying after 4 years Paige
I am so unbelievably proud of Lily! If I was dropped on my face, I would have walked off the floor #realtalk
Good on them for ending the routine well, their pyramid was great and all of the tumbling is insane. kudos to lily for soldiering on, and the team for finishing on a positive note. Smoed is going to have a good go at it again tomorrow, no matter if you are commenting about how "bad" they were today, and have already decided it's not their year. This year has really proven who Smoed's real fans are. If you can't support them when they're dropping their stunts, then you can't jump on the bandwagon when they hit. Hoping for the best tomorrow and for the remainder of the season. We all know they deserve a higher raw score than what they have, which if they hit tomorrow, we will hopefully see. (:
Can I just say, Lily has improved so much! She came from a level 4 team and jumped on to Smoed. That doesnt sound like an easy transition but she has done very well! She looks up to par with all the other flyers on the team! Good job Lily and hope you are okay after that fall.
compared to some of the routines done on day 1, this isn't even bad. just because they're a well known team doesn't give people the right to bash them just because they didn't hit. yes, brandon will probably win NCA and well done if they do. but you don't have to bring smoed down just to make them look better.
You have saved my life with this video! Thankyou!
If you are one of those people that laughed when Lily fell and/or publicly made fun of her and the team on twitter, then you are a really shitty person and deserve to have a really bad fall at the biggest competition you attend.
I cannot believe how there are people that actually enjoyed themselves looking at a team do bad and a little kid falling hard on the floor. And what angers me most, is that some of those people are actually cheerleaders. The cheer community is a community built on support, love, passion and sportsmanship. There is no place in our community for people like you. You know who you are. If it makes you content that a team is struggling in the biggest competition, then you are an ugly nasty and horrible individual and no will never go far in cheer. Trust me, you won't.
By the way, Lily has a loose tooth and a really fat lip right now.
***** why are you so spiteful. smoed does not care about your rude irrelevant ass opinon. stfu and hit the gym.
***** Well since your not a cheerleader you would never understand the amount of pressure we feel while competing also you wouldn't understand that in cheer we all root for each other there should be no bashing , we already have to deal with so many people bashing our sport why bash each other?
***** That is very rude. You're not a fan cuz they're not doing all that great this season? We don't care if you're not a fan of Smoed anymore. There are others that are staying true to Smoed and rooting for the team no matter what, through thick and thin. And to laugh for someone to fall and get injured? Completely sick, how would you feel like if you were flying (which I really doubt) and you fell and got injured? Would you still like to have others laughing at you? No, right? You need to relax and show some respect or you won't get any yourself.
Malia's post on instagram was very heartfelt. If you haven't seen it it basically said how nobody should make fun of their team because everyone makes mistakes. This performance wasn't the best but they always surprise us at Worlds!
wait I'm confused I thought Payton fell on the mat ?
Hope the little girl is okay . It looked like it hurt . Never drop your flyers . I hate when that happens !
Yea she could have knocked her teeth out! I hope they HIT! tomorrow.
***** I'm not saying you shouldn't drop your flyers because of a deduction . Who cares for that reason . As long as the flyer is caught . It shouldn't happen at all . I see your point of view but I have mine as well . She could've gotten hurt badly . I understands mistakes . But there should be more ways to prevent a flyer from being dropped . I've never dropped a flyer and will always continue to not do that . Have a good day !
***** & when your quoting me actually quote myself right . I said " never drop them" . Not "not drop flyers " or " you can't drop flyers " .
she busted her lip and has a loose tooth.
Have you ever partner stunted it's hard to catch flyers specially when they fall forward
In most cases you have to hit rock bottom before you can be the best that you can be, and this was definitely their rock bottom/wakeup call. Being the team that they are and seeing how they did this weekend, only makes me more excited for the rest of the season because the only thing they can do now is perform better and prove everyone that had something negative to say, or laugh about, wrong
I think considering they have a new boy and changed a lot of the routine, Smoed did really well. Despite what others are saying, Smoed does, and always will, have a chance to win worlds.
That's what I said👏💙🔫💙
Forget the falls they still have my vote for favorite senior level 5. Still rocked it!
Poor Lily. Her bases just dropped her, didn't even catch her. That must have hurt.
i agree!
she busted her lip and got a loose tooth
She fell towards the front, they couldn't of exactly prevented that
I think she tried to save the stunt but the bases didn't get a good grip
I would have dived under her. My flyer will NEVER hit the floor.
I loved Smoed so much more 2 years ago. This is a completely new team with mostly all new people. They were so much better 2 years ago.
Poor lily! I don't care about what people have to say about smoed and this routine I just hope she's okay. That was a terrible fall I hope she recovers fast! Best wishes to Smoed on the rest of their season. ❤
Thank you so much for posting!!
I hate seeing madi not fly :(
I know😢😢It sucks but all she was doing was falling because she was so tall
im not surprised they did this bad, not that it was terrible. They have always been a day 2 team, and with all the drama from outside people, and having the hardest routine in their division it was bound to default. Im def not writing them out of worlds yet, once they hit this routine I know theyll be amazing as usual. I just with Orby and Eddie stopped traveling around helping other teams and focus on their teams at home.
the members of the team have said that they have missed practices....
i have a friend who cheers there shes not on smoed but she obvy still knows whats going on and she said they have missed...
okay, i know the facts I have are stright from the source. I dont need you to tell me if im right or not.
I love the fact they still finish strong this just shows us that even the best teams can have mistake is shows they need to figure out what went wrong and make it stronger. Sorry for the little that fell hope your doing better.
I feel like their routine is always the same. I like smoed but I just feel that the pyramid is always similar to the year before. I would love to see some new stunts and pyramid or something they haven't done before. I'm not saying they are bad, I just want to see something new especially since their team has great athletes.
If and once this routine gets cleaned up, I think they just might edge out Brandon. But that's a big if. Brandon has been stupid consistent this year and Smoed is so wishy-washy that I'm not even sure what to expect from Smoed anymore.
If your routine does not hit, your routine will inadvertently have a lower raw score. For some reason this is just the case. Cheer Sport Great White's routine was a wreck and they have a raw score of like 96.4. Considering what their competition is doing versus what G-dubs are performing, I would expect them to have a raw score of 97-98. SoT Royalty has a pretty low raw score (I think in the 95s), where I'm sure a bunch of people know damn well that their raw score should be a lot higher, but because they had a bunch of issues, their score is just lower than it should be (that and they were like the first medium coed team to go on).
I don't think people should be saying it isn't Smoed's year just yet. Smoed lost NCA in 2013 and they won Worlds the same year. They're still a huge threat, they just need more cleaning up to do.
Also, where's Jacob (Joey? Something that starts with a J)? He was probably the strongest or second strongest boy on the team and this new guy (while very talented), is just not an upgrade.
Also I want to add: kudos to Lily! She looks a LOT better in the air than at Palm Springs competition! I do wish her legs were more together when she's doubling down in her baskets and stunts, but she has majorly improved. The stunt group as a whole looks so much better now. I hope she's alright though; that was a nasty fall.
the raw score is like the starting value - so what the routine would get if you hit 0. the deductions are deducted from your raw score to give you the final score. BSB's raw score is 98.80, but since they got .5 in deductions, their final score is 98.30. smoed's raw score is 97.30, which is already a lower starting value, so even if they had hit they still wouldn't have gotten ahead of brandon.
Yeah, Brandon has the highest raw score of the entire competition. I'm not surprised. It's definitely well deserved.
The raw score *should* be the starting value, but in reality it really isn't. I realize Smoed isn't the best looking team right now, but there is no way their raw score should be the 5th or 6th highest. Absolutely no way. At least it should be the third, at most second.
Different competition but same scenario: F5 had a raw score 5 points higher than everyone at Worlds in semi-finals, but they had 4.5 points in deductions at finals and came in third? In reality that raw score should've been high enough to win Worlds, but they placed third? How does that work?
l0ol0ool you mean world's last year? Yeah I don't know either. Same thing with Top Gun winning the division this year despite a major stunt fall. Like how come it only works out for certain teams that get in that situation and not everyteam in that situation.
Yeah, I was talking about Worlds last year. I'm still so salty and I don't care who knows.
I don't know how Top Gun won by nearly .2. But Cheetahs had a deduction too, but as for what I don't know. I was expecting it to be a lot closer and Cheetahs edging them out, if anything.
wow in case you haven't noticed, smoed has won worlds for times. 3 in a row! i would like to see you hit a perfect routine with no mistakes, win worlds 4 times, and being a 3 time world champ in a row. i bet you can't
Do you have any of the other level 5 cali teams, aces, coed, lady bullets,?
The thing is, their routine wasn't even bad after the major fall with Lily, and she's a complete trooper for getting up and finishing that routine with 110%.
Lily's improved so much! I remember how much they watered down the stunt for her and now she's just up to par with the rest of the team🎉
That jump sequence, though. PHENOMENAL!
I have said it on many videos before and will continue to say it; it takes more than one person to make a stunt, and even though its easy to blame a flyer for a fall (ie Angelina fell, she always falls, why isn't she being replaced??) You have no idea what is happening within that stunt group and whose to blame. Sure, it can be the flyers fault, but it can be the way the bases gripped her foot or the sudden shift in motion. Its not easy to spin, switch feet and pull lines whilst standing on peoples hands. Just because Angelina came down doesnt mean its her fault and her fault only. This is a three time world champion team - the coaches know what they need to do in order to win.. trust them.
What place did they get?? I would love to know!!! I'm a huge smoed fan and I love them
8th
can someone tell me why their raw score is so much lower than everyone else when their tumbling is so good and jumps
Ummm are we not gonna talk about how committed sis was to the heel stretch even when she fell? Like dangggggg you go girl. Honestly I don’t even care if she fell
Hey guys can someone give me some informations about this competition.. i have to do a presentation about cheerleading thanks :)
Have they preformed today yet? Do they do good
all of you guys who are making fun off lilly remember she is only 12 and that even though that must of really hurt she still continued the routine with a smile, so proud of my little cousin lets bring back the rings next year.
I believe that this routine is definitely more difficult than all the other small coed routines but it is definitely not as well executed as the other small coed routines. Its not about difficulty, its about execution and technique. They really need to lower the level of this routine because I have not seen them hit it perfectly yet this season and teams like BSB, and beatles are doing awesome. I love Smoed and I hope that they clean this routine so it can be amazing.
I am a SMOED fan all the way :)
was Madi flying at NCA last year? or did she base/backspot?
She was secondary basing
honestly lily is goals she fell on her face and went through the routine with a smile and in pyramid she looked as if nothing was wrong.
energy is much better than seen in other competitions this season, smoed will come back and kill
OMG!! For this comp they did kinda bad with falls and bobbles. Last season they were so good and this season not as much but they can improve and prove us wrong. They are one of the best top teams so they can either make it or break it. But i love you guys so much!!!! GOOD LUCK!!! SMOED
Why did lauren only do a full in the elite tumbling section?
who was the girl that fell and who was the person that dropped her
What's the name of the pyramid song?
I still think they have the hardest routine out of all of the small coed division
they don't. They have the fifth highest raw score and they only 8.90 for stunt difficulty which was lower than KC Cheer, ICE Thunder, Brandon, Rockstar and others.
I wasn't going off of the score . I was going off of the amount of energy it takes to perform the skills they perform . Tumbling, jumps & stunts all together. They have 7 people doing 5 series jumps to full. The standing tumbling isn't the regular back handspring whip to double, but bounce backs . Idk about you but I'd be beyond tired . The caliber of difficulty is not the same as the other teams .Their routine showcases harder skills & at a greater ratio. Unfortunately they didn't execute .
Even if they did execute, they'd still be in 4th, 5th position.
whos to say . when i competed at nca for high school my team had ended up with 91.59 for our final score for day 1 and our deductions(we dropped a stunt) were around 1.25 or something so that would bring us to a raw score around 92.84 . Then the next day we didnt drop a stunt and our raw score was 95.52 with .5 deduction which finished us 1st with 95.02 for day 2. Im just saying. 92.84 and 95.52 as a raw score; Thats a big difference . So im sure it would make a huge difference for smoed if they'd hit
You're right! If smoed hits it will be insane! They're routine is so difficult.
I know lily fell, but who was her base?
All I could think about throughout the perform was about that girl who smacked her chin on the floor.
But anyway Smoed is soooo clean its ridiculous, they've really been trained well. Even through the mistakes they don't let it affect any other part of the routine. And they are also really smart I watched a pass that I knew wouldn't be able to throw a double and they didn't which was very smart on their part.
I think they should switch Angelina's stunt group with Madi or Lauren, they're both veteran flyers and were both very consistent when ever they flew. I've never seen Lauren drop a stunt. Angelina is a great flyer, but it's also crunch time for Smoed, it's almost time for worlds and you need to be consistent. Whatever happens, I wouldn't count smoed out they always bring a stellar performance.
Omggg😅😅I'm actually scared now for smoed about winning worlds because they keep dropping stunts
What were the two tumble busts
So proud of Lily for pushing through after that fall💜💜 Maybe Smoed aren't as strong and consitent as earlier years but I'm gonna support them nonetheless! Go Smoed!❤️🏆🏆
in my opinion, Angelina and her stunt group really need to step it up because they have fallen in almost every comp smoed has attended so far. I surprised I haven't seen eddie grilling her or even replacing her. Don't get me wrong, I love all the smo's especially Angelina, but she really needs that stunt to hit more.
this happens to ever team more than once a season. just happened that this routine went downhill. still love smoed
omg lily is so strong!! i think that really hurt... and why Eddie and orby make the Routine more difficult when they dont even hit the easiest Routine at the beginning of the season...?
I hate how they don't have SMOED Awesomeness Tv anymore but omg I feel so bad for the girl who got dropped D: she looks new and I haven't seen her. Props to her for pushing through.
Everyone has their ups and downs, but smoed is always gonna get back up and try even harder after a rough day. Mistakes happen. Unless you can do everything they can do, then you should not be criticizing.
What happened this year
I really hope that they do well tomorrow, I love them anyways!
Smoed keeps getting new team members. They just need to familiarize themselves and hopefully bring it together.
It just isn't Smoed year. BSB all the way
No way, smoed has and always will be a day 2 team they will come back day 2 and slay bsb, and if for some reason bsb beats smoed. Smoed will beat them at worlds
blieber4ever6 smoed are currently in 6th place, even if they hit day 2 it going to be very hard for them to end up on top
Expect the unexpected
Kevin Tipton I don't think that will work here, besides BSB has like the 2nd highest score out of the entire competition.
With all this talk about how raw scores can change, I definitely think smoed can bounce back!
Lily's drop was bad, but why do I feel like it's always Angelina's stunt coming down! lord.
Why didn't she let go of her heel stretch? Even im not a flyer and I would know to let go if j was that close to falling
I hope lily's okay👍👍
OMG, Poor Lily that 1st fall :'(, I still love you smoed, Smoed all the way for Worlds
Some of you guys are fake. When Smoed doesn't hit some people go to BSB, then when BSB doesn't hit they go back to Smoed. Why do you have to pick one team over another? You can easily like both, or just one. But don't hate on either of them, if you're an all star cheerleader you know exactly how it feels.
Not just smoed but the whole small coed 5 division has to step it up
Because you people made fun of them and their stunts they won worlds... Its true haters make me famous Cuz ppl was hatin on smoed and the took that anger and put it in cheer now they won worlds wat u gotta say
I think it's hilarious how everyone is all "poor smoed" and "it just isn't there year" but when Brandon didn't do amazing at like Worlds everyone was all "oh Brandon just really suck" like, are you kidding me?
That is SUCH a lie and you know it. Go on ANY video of the last 3 years of Worlds of Brandon and all you will see is "if they had hit, they would have won". Even when Smoed wins they still get talked down, so no, no one ever says how much "Brandon sucks"
Never forget...
1:08 my grades during comp season be like
is Maddie still on the team cause she was center in the pyramid and now there's a tinier girl there
Yes but shes a base now. She bases lily (the "tiny" girl) in the main stunt section
oh thanks
I'm sorry but things are looking good for Brandon sb . But lilly has improved so much
skylar i understand that lol but as a cheerleader at an eight time worlds chamion and five time summit champions and 35 nca and cheersport champions i respect my gyms opinions because you cannot break or sprain a back from falling on it you'll just be breathless for a few small seconds. but anything else you fall on will most likely break or sprain or pop out. i have witnessed a girl fall and snap her arm in half. but thats just our opinion
Awwww I feel so bad for the girl in the first stunt that fell it look like it hurt really bad and it was hard to watch the whole thing because they kept dropping stunts but I hope they do better tomorrow because I really love smoed!!!!
I loved smoed when gabi, madi, kiara, and jenne were in it. Now smoed is dropping snd it's not the same :(
noooo why did they change the dance? I loved their old one it had a far stronger finish then this one, but still love them overall
omg smoked what happened, i wonder who the new boy is
The new boy is Nick and he was on World Cup Odyssey last year. He was last pass!
When she fell, you could hear the crowd! (*gasp*)
guys brandon is definitely better this year, and they deserve to win worlds
Looks like they got some new younger girls on the team bc I don't recognize any of the or flyers and maddi isn't a flyer anymore
Is Maddie on the team anymore?
Yep, shes basing
damn i wouldn't want to partner stunt with him anymore if i was lily lol...hehe
I believe this is BSB year for worlds. Smoed just isn't the same anymore
1. I just want to share about their music and energy. Music guides and boost there energy in the floor. why they cant change as California Allstars Smoed Worlds 2013 music does.
Poor Lily :( that was an awful fall.
Smoed is just having a terrible year, all these new people coming in and out, Madi transitioning to basing, and just a new team as a whole. The flyers are like 12-13. Their still learning, but they have improved so much since the first competition :) interesting what will happen at Worlds
who fell
Smoked sucks so bad this year. Marci is up such an amazing cheerleader, idk why she's on this team
Because she is an amazing cheerleader and Smoed is a team only for amazing cheerleaders like her. And honestly, your opinion is irrelevant and shows how little you know about cheer, seeing that you consider - 4 tucks bhs doubles, 2 to whip full bounce back through to doubles, this whole elite stunt section, 7 freaking people doing 5 jumps to full, 2 punches over another person's leg through to a double, this killer pyramid, 3 standing fulls at the very end of the routine and a 12 year old beast hitting the shit out of this routine after a very bad fall, - "sucking".
How is my opinion irrelevant, but yours isnt? I have just as much right as you do to share an "irrelevant" opinion. It's honestly hilarious how people get upset when someone else doesn't share the same opinion as them. You don't need to be an expert in cheer to see how many bobbles or falls they had. But for your info I used to be an all star cheerleader for 5 years. I was basing my opinion off of their team from the last couple of years and from their last couple of performances. Out of ALL their performances this year they have only hit only hit once or twice. Lets be honest, smoed is just not how they used to be. Most of their fliers lack flexibility. im surprised eddie and orby even have them as fliers. Maddie is an amazing flier, why they have her basing no one knows. They wear the mess out of Angel. Yes, she's a good tumbler, but one can only handle so much. they have her throwing so many passes, then she goes right into stunting. it's a no wonder she fell in one of her passes. Majority of outsiders on the team join smoed to have a chance to win the championship seeing that smoed has won it 3 years in a row. From the looks of the team now, it will be a miracle if they win this year. Funny how other people basically said the same thing as me, but you only want to say something to me. LOL, just face it. not EVERYONE is a fan of smoed.
Madi* isn't a flyer be she has become too tall where her stunt would consistently fall. I agree they haven't hit a lot, but remember they can get back at the top easily.
ariel victoria she may be tall, but she's still thin. I've seen tall fliers whose stunts stay in the air.
Like I don't know. 😂😂😂😂 I follow some of the teammates on instagram. Good job to them.
Brandon's raw score is higher than SMOEDs. That's all
Raw scores are lower if they don't hit. If they hit I feel their raw score will be up there with Brandon's.
Brandon had an insanely high raw score though
If you look, Nick and Marci (I think her name is from SSX) literally dove to try to get Lily. Don't attack them for Lily falling. It isn't Lily's fault or the base's fault. Its the entire stunt group as a whole. Stunt's fall all of the time. Even if the most consistent stunt group on a team has their bad days and fall. Falls aren't really preventable. They happen to everyone from Tiny 1 to Open 6. Just because Cali SMOED is a well known team, people are going to make it a bigger deal if they fall which is stupid because they have mistakes too.
For RAW scores, you really can't judge everyone's RAW scores because each competition has a different way of evaluating raw scores. For example CEA Senior Elite had the highest raw score I think at Cheersport (don't quote me). Then at NCA, they had like the 5th highest raw score in their division. So it varies, and it varies on who is judging. Don't base a teams season off of a raw score at one competition...
I personally love SMOED. But I did lose respect for some of their team members after they tweeted stuff. Don't judge the team though. It was some individuals & a coach... Not the entire team...More then 3/4ths of that team kept their mouth shut. So, don't judge the entire team...
This routine is very difficult. But clearly they're not ready for such a hard routine because they haven't been able to hit it yet. They should probably go back to the easier stuff and then for worlds, kill it with the difficult routine.
I don't understand why people are saying Smoed won worlds 5 times they've won 2012 2013 2014 2015 that's only 4. What am I missing?
They won in 2010. But back then they were a junior team when hey allowed them at worlds :)
+EvolotionGirl they need to bring that back!!! I love watching j5 teams
Who's the new guy?
His name is Nick and he's replacing Jacob but a lot of people just think it's temporary because Jacob still talks about smoed like he's on the team still.
I'm excited to see who comes out on top this year for worlds
Smoed ( I'm hopping will make it a 4peat once again ) They have the best attitude towards everything and even they had a bad performance they still keep their chins up throughout the rest of the competition.
Brandon doesn't have the best sportsmanship .
Worlds 2013 & 2014 proved they don't have the motivation to want to win
When ONE stunt falls everything changes in the way they perform and you can see it when they walk off the mat too.
Pretty sure everyone that doesn't hit walks off the mat disappointed. They are great sportsmanship wise, I don't even know what you're on about. 2013 worlds was the worst for them. Any team that would perform like that would be incredibly upset.
2013 for Brandon was the worst yes i agree with you ... AND yes every team would be disappointed if they didn't hit perfect BUT besides that ... Brandon dropped one stunt during the stunt section and i think thats what caused all the other mess-ups.
With the other stunts that didn't hit ( In my opinion ) they didn't try to save any of them
They lost the motivation
this was their best year
Ouch that's gotta hurt well at least she kept on performing and didn't freak out about it like other cheerleaders I know of.
I'm glad they tried to save Lily, but I hate when they grab by the flyers feet cuz that's not going to do much to save the flyer😁
personally I think smoed is great, but I think the problem is this season is that the stunt groups don't have as much chemistry as they need and so they're not connecting therefor the stunts are going up and staying up as smoothly as they should be. just my opinion.
Does anyone have an update on Lily? I can't even begin to critique this routine because I can't get past how horrible that fall was, and how much of a fighter Lily is. She had no problems with her group stunts after that, it was incredible to watch.
I'm reading on here that knocked a few teeth loose? Dear god I hope she's okay.
Yes and I heard she chipped some too
I bet the coaches were not happy when they got of that floor😂smoed was so amazing last year idk about this year..
Stop saying they should have caught that little girl, they didn't just let her fall. The position she fell in was really hard for the bases to catch her, I'm a base and I will always try to catch my flyer, but sometimes they fall awkwardly and your just not able to. So cut her bases some slack because they did try to catch her.
when they did the swing around thing at 3:04-3:05 it looks really difficult for them. the boys last year at worlds did it no problem
Lily got right back up, and that's what important!!
lets stay calm and believe with the new bunch of smoed army and dont forget BRADON never hits! LOL cant wait for the worlds ... orby and edie c'mon lets slay! slay! slay!