This is a lot more common than you think... If you've never seen someone snatch split you need to get out more. My weightlifting coach had me start with this due to mobility and not having shoes
I remember when I was a teenager in the early eighties and seeing John Davis featured in some of the old Iron Man and Strength and Health magazines. I love how he gently puts the bar down under extreme control. What a beast and a great man.
John Davis, one of only 3 to win a World or Olympic championship 8 times. This, despite having his career interrupted by WW II, and weighing only 210 to 230 lbs, when all competitors over 198 lifted together. He often defeated men who outweighed him by 50 to 100 lbs. What could he do today with modern technique, training and gear? I doubt we'll see his like, again.
Not to mention he was a black dude during that time. Read his book talking about how gyms wouldnt let him train, top weightlifters wouldnt mentor/train with him & how he would miss meals and sleep out in his car due to segregation. Davis overcame all that and still became the champ.
The USA was still dominant in WL then. In just a few years, having recovered from WW2, the Russians and East Bloc countries would pull ahead and stay ahead for years to come. By the way, Norb Schemansky won gold in these Olympic Games in the 90k class. He'd go on to win 2 more Olympic medals (he won silver in London, 1948), both bronze in Rome and Tokyo.
На олимпиаде в Риме золото взял Юрий Власов. Величайший советский спортсмен супермэн. Но американцы действительно молодцы, их легенда Пауль Андерсон был вдохновителем Юрия Власова. Юрий Власов недавно умер. Это была ещё эпоха чистого спорта. После юрия Власова был Леонид Жаботинский, а потом был великий Василий Алексеев который поставил более 80 мировых рекордов. Великий железный спорт одним словом.
Could you imagine trying to split clean 350 pounds, failing, and then crashing down on your back knee. I feel like there were quite a few knee injuries back then.
Humberto Selvetti from Argentina won de Bronze medal . And he in 1956 tie the first place with Davis but won the Silver medal because Selbetti was 5 kilograms heviest than Davis
Different times, different standards, different understanding of technique. Let's not forget that davis could lift the appolons axle overhead. Many world class 300+ lb strongmen of today cannot.
its too bad no-one split cleans or snatches. the weights they were doing back then were only slightly less heavy than they are today for their weight classes.
That's how it was supposed to be done all the time no one ever slammed the weights are left them drop! That shows true strength because they're able to put it down without letting it slam!
People ate real food 3 times a day back then. Now it is mostly ultra processed so people are fat and their eating window is 16 hours not 8 hours what it was back then.
@@embro6474??? I agree with you to some degree but processed foods mostly affect lower class or uneducated individuals who eat fast food or canned foods etc. It is not exclusive but more extreme in the states too it's not as bad everywhere. Top athletes are almost always going to have their diet on lockdown, so your point is moot. The cause is msot likely the advamcement of the agriculture industry and technology increasing accessibility to food and verities of food, and the types of lifestyle that can sustain more time to eat and recover
@@22448824 look Just Chineses women in this catdcgories.. ...i see Her in civilian shes really cute... she looks 5'9" 220lbs muscular but she stay cute.....personnally i LOVE STRONG WOMEN ( FOR ME IDEAL GIRLS ARE SISTERS WILLIAMS.....I LOOOOOVE THEM A LOT....)
Yes but 1030 pounds what the total that he lifted, they combined the total amount of weight lifted in the snatch, press and Clean & jerk into the total.
Better drugs now...hellyah...there's this Russian 235 lb barbell babe Tatiana Kashirina same weight as John Davis who easily would have beaten these guys by 30-50lbs per lift !!! LOL How embarrassing that would be huh!!! LOL Gotta love those drugs. But her technique is unbelievably advance too tho.
+bthvnyt Yeah, definitely. But remember, these guys were using the split snatch and split clean, both of which are biomechanically far inferior to the squat snatch and clean.
clayoliver555 Beyond that, Kashirina actually may outweigh someone like Davis and the so-called "heavyweights" of the time. Wikipedia has her at 100 kg.
It was a different time. These men were very very strong even if they did not lift as much as much as they did today. As pointed out new techniques were developed for the snatch and clean and jerk. Yes they used steroids which were introduced by the Soviets but their drug protocol was nothing like it is today. Hepburn, Paul Anderson, John Grimek et al were very strong.
@@odessafile75 in 1952 i doubt there were much steroids at all, the only one that existed was testosterone which was not easy to get and was relatively inaccessible and unknown by 99% of lifters at the time. Only a small handful of lifters were using it at the time and it was largely the Soviets
I like how politely they put the bar down
ya it was required that they had to set the weight down under control. mostly because of the lack of rubber plates.
They lift small weights compared to nowadays weightlifting.
Small but extremely dense, which is what matters. Also look at paul anderson. That man was phenomenal
Educated people back then.
Because they only had those garbage plates 😃
Is no one going to comment about how this took place at 2 AM? That's crazy early, or crazy late, depending on when you wake and go to bed.
olympics are held around the clock.. duh..
That's one of the reasons the press was dropped from the competition.
funny
how the old newsreel made up
the drama of the missed lift
which was 182.5k/400+lbs
and actually AFTER
the winning lift
did i just saw someone snatching and end up in an split jerk , wow..
That's a split snatch.
This is a lot more common than you think... If you've never seen someone snatch split you need to get out more. My weightlifting coach had me start with this due to mobility and not having shoes
@@tdogable it probably seems less familiar to the average person since modern olympic lifting favors the squat snatch.
@@penguin-- it should be noted that it's because you can lift more with the squat variant than the split variant
A piece of history... Amazing lifters.. The way they put the bar on the ground is really elegant...
Wow, the technique for the clean is very different.
I read that you were not allowed to touch the bar during the lift.
@@chino7242 Yeah you had to levitate it with your mind
@@molehansman247 Not allowed to touch it with your body, you were only allowed to grip it.*
thats why it was originally called "clean"
Yeah, the rules very shitty
I remember when I was a teenager in the early eighties and seeing John Davis featured in some of the old Iron Man and Strength and Health magazines.
I love how he gently puts the bar down under extreme control.
What a beast and a great man.
John Davis, one of only 3 to win a World or Olympic championship 8 times. This, despite having his career interrupted by WW II, and weighing only 210 to 230 lbs, when all competitors over 198 lifted together. He often defeated men who outweighed him by 50 to 100 lbs. What could he do today with modern technique, training and gear? I doubt we'll see his like, again.
Gene say different. Deontay Wilder is already among us.
correct only very few did similiat Alexeev Naim ?maybe Lasha soon,? others hm m off my head dont know IWF CAT 1 REF
Not to mention he was a black dude during that time. Read his book talking about how gyms wouldnt let him train, top weightlifters wouldnt mentor/train with him & how he would miss meals and sleep out in his car due to segregation. Davis overcame all that and still became the champ.
@@ozwunder69твой Лаша чурка захимиченная!!!!!
Split catches are so pretty in a way, but one rarely sees them anymore!
Davis!!
Good old Davis, places the bar gently back down on the ground xD
man I know that squat cleaning and squat snatching allows for more weight to be lifted but I love the look of the split versions
Watching this video automatically doubles your lifts
damn that clean technique is crazy different...nearly stiff legged
The USA was still dominant in WL then. In just a few years, having recovered from WW2, the Russians and East Bloc countries would pull ahead and stay ahead for years to come. By the way, Norb Schemansky won gold in these Olympic Games in the 90k class. He'd go on to win 2 more Olympic medals (he won silver in London, 1948), both bronze in Rome and Tokyo.
after serving in WWII too, great athlete, died in obscurity :(
На олимпиаде в Риме золото взял Юрий Власов. Величайший советский спортсмен супермэн. Но американцы действительно молодцы, их легенда Пауль Андерсон был вдохновителем Юрия Власова. Юрий Власов недавно умер. Это была ещё эпоха чистого спорта. После юрия Власова был Леонид Жаботинский, а потом был великий Василий Алексеев который поставил более 80 мировых рекордов. Великий железный спорт одним словом.
the same year my dad was born great old classic weight lifting video
Could you imagine trying to split clean 350 pounds, failing, and then crashing down on your back knee. I feel like there were quite a few knee injuries back then.
NO ONE was throwing the bar!
Iron weight plates.
What a shame
Go, Johnny, go!!
Очень интересно! Оказывается рывок раньше выполняли с разножкой )
Его выполняли в "ножницы". А с разножкой Попова выполняют сейчас.
@@МаксимСтрілецький-ч4ж
Я не претендую на истину,но по-моему сейчас рывок низким седом выполняют
@@ПорфирийИванов-з2ф поперечный разброс ног в низком седе и есть разножка Попова.
Keep in mind, folks, that Doug Hepburn PRESSED a few pounds more than Davis's jerk in this video.
holy crap thats clean and press, basically toying with the clean. I know it was brushless back then but still he basically reverse curled it.
I liked the background music 😂
My dad shoulda been here he did more in highschool his grandpa was Strict and couldnt allow him to go is all
he is man from book Dinozaurius. Это Джон Девис нигретянин спортсмен описывался в книге Тренинг динозавров
Эта книга есть на русском?
@@ПорфирийИванов-з2ф есть называется Кубик Брукс - Тренинг динозавров
@@savantoine
Понял, спасибо
Humberto Selvetti from Argentina won de Bronze medal . And he in 1956 tie the first place with Davis but won the Silver medal because Selbetti was 5 kilograms heviest than Davis
Different times, different standards, different understanding of technique. Let's not forget that davis could lift the appolons axle overhead. Many world class 300+ lb strongmen of today cannot.
@@clocky6728 You gotta admit for a fully natural athlete what Davis did was pretty damn crazy
And weighing in at significantly less, not knowing the science that we do today, no roids, , HGH, etc, nothing but respect for them.
Real men power.
Holy shit, weightlifting has changed a lot!! :O Where do you get this footage?
Clarence Kennedy o:
Who are you?
Hello Wizard of lifting
Didn't expect you here.
CLARENCE!?
I want to know who made the official olympic lifting teqnichue
me
that split snatch is my worst nightmare
JOHN DAVIS WAS THE MAN!!
its crazy how weightlifting originated from circus acts back in the day
its too bad no-one split cleans or snatches. the weights they were doing back then were only slightly less heavy than they are today for their weight classes.
0:58
awesome :)
Class.
That's how it was supposed to be done all the time no one ever slammed the weights are left them drop! That shows true strength because they're able to put it down without letting it slam!
People say that a lot
But it really doesn't show shit other than you put it down carefully 😂😂
When the rule that you have to put weight back without noise was no longer with us?
I like dramatic edit
Почему они так бережно штангу кладут?
Это ж лишние силы отнимает
they need to incorporate the control factor back to the ground
Looks many things has changed
No doping
Dr Who.. i want travel in your tardis in this meet for win a medal !!!! Lol serious level is at reach of me !
sure lmao
Metal weights felt a lot heavier. Virtually no bar whip
@@22448824 ohhh exactly .sorry to remember this fact..
its funny how the SHW class was 90kg+
People ate real food 3 times a day back then. Now it is mostly ultra processed so people are fat and their eating window is 16 hours not 8 hours what it was back then.
@@embro6474??? I agree with you to some degree but processed foods mostly affect lower class or uneducated individuals who eat fast food or canned foods etc. It is not exclusive but more extreme in the states too it's not as bad everywhere. Top athletes are almost always going to have their diet on lockdown, so your point is moot. The cause is msot likely the advamcement of the agriculture industry and technology increasing accessibility to food and verities of food, and the types of lifestyle that can sustain more time to eat and recover
Hey coach is it ok it I wear some basketball shorts?
No steroids
Sure but for 90+kg these numbers are just OK for someone who's into this sport.
@@edwindelic7085 The rules were different so you cant compare very well
Now...a cute Girl can do 193 at Clean/Jerk (Tatiana Kashirina)
She COULD lift that much, but was juicing.
You obviously have a very subjective idea of what a Cute girl is...
Strength is beauty.
Cute? I beg your pardon?
@@22448824 look Just Chineses women in this catdcgories.. ...i see Her in civilian shes really cute... she looks 5'9" 220lbs muscular but she stay cute.....personnally i LOVE STRONG WOMEN ( FOR ME IDEAL GIRLS ARE SISTERS WILLIAMS.....I LOOOOOVE THEM A LOT....)
So... The form they used in 1950s weightlifting is basically the same form they use in 2019 Crossfit?
Heavy edited ..
1:25 did i heard "1030 pounds" for weigh lifting??? Today, world strongest man deadlift is just 500 kg.
Yes but 1030 pounds what the total that he lifted, they combined the total amount of weight lifted in the snatch, press and Clean & jerk into the total.
Fascinating, but poorly edited back then. They mixed up the three lifts.
if only i was lifting then, i could actually be competive
Ridiculous strength
Nobody:
RUclips: here's a video from the 40s
1952 is in the 40s yeah?
@@molehansman247 yes.
useless and dead format
@@jonih3274 approved.
It’s the 50s
lmfao, right before the drugs and fake nattys
In that times drugs were sold in drugstores. Lol
It is a fact that the Russians used anabolic steroids in the Olympics during the1950's.
Yep and before all these narcissist losers posting everything on social network sites
lobo53695 you won this round sir
You’ve obviously haven’t lifted anything significant in your life
😂 😂
Better drugs now...hellyah...there's this Russian 235 lb barbell babe Tatiana Kashirina same weight as John Davis who easily would have beaten these guys by 30-50lbs per lift !!! LOL How embarrassing that would be huh!!! LOL Gotta love those drugs. But her technique is unbelievably advance too tho.
+bthvnyt Yeah, definitely. But remember, these guys were using the split snatch and split clean, both of which are biomechanically far inferior to the squat snatch and clean.
she couldn't remotely lift this without drugs, also even with her drugs she'd have a very hard time pressing with the men
clayoliver555
Beyond that, Kashirina actually may outweigh someone like Davis and the so-called "heavyweights" of the time. Wikipedia has her at 100 kg.
It was a different time. These men were very very strong even if they did not lift as much as much as they did today. As pointed out new techniques were developed for the snatch and clean and jerk. Yes they used steroids which were introduced by the Soviets but their drug protocol was nothing like it is today. Hepburn, Paul Anderson, John Grimek et al were very strong.
@@odessafile75 in 1952 i doubt there were much steroids at all, the only one that existed was testosterone which was not easy to get and was relatively inaccessible and unknown by 99% of lifters at the time. Only a small handful of lifters were using it at the time and it was largely the Soviets
That form hurts to watch.
Split cleans and split snatch
They were Olympic champions.