How to make the Lance Egan Euro Leader

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @David-uj2ms
    @David-uj2ms 5 лет назад +9

    I ve caught so many fish with the info you and Devin presented in your two DVD's. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart!

  • @vvg6111
    @vvg6111 5 лет назад +3

    I was fishing about two years with "traditional " methods and rarely catching fish. After I learned from you and Devin through your DVD'S first time I have got into river I caught more fish than my other club members with more experience.
    Thank you Greatly for your help and instructions. Hopefully I'll see Devin in our club Meeting on May 16th.
    CHEERS

  • @efy6069
    @efy6069 2 года назад +1

    A tiny bit of UV cure resin on each of those blood knots helps everything slide through the guides. And those rabbit ears he leaves on the sighter are like tippet magnets for me! I leave them on despite that because they really do help visibility. Great tutorial, thank you!!

    • @matthewwhite876
      @matthewwhite876 11 месяцев назад

      Yeah, as someone who Czech nymphs ALOT no need for tags, honestly I don't even use sighter material anymore it's just another thing to buy I tie a small bit of braided line to my leader as a tag, it's soft doesn't get caught on anything and it's more than enough if you don't feel the eat, rare I even need that these days

  • @schmoonkie
    @schmoonkie 5 лет назад +5

    Firstly, thanks to Lance for this video. I do have both DVD's too and the Olsen's book as well.
    They're great source of info on Euro nymphing. Just wanted to add some info that may be useful
    for others.
    You can get ( tippet ) rings for about 16 cents a piece at Artbeads. A bunch of us in Colorado
    are using them. Learned about them from a fishing friend from back East. You can get the
    rings in different sizes. We use:
    Sterling Silver Fine Closed Jump Ring (0.5x2.15mm)
    SKU: SS-CJR-FA
    We tie each ring on some heavy thread ( e.g. Coates and Clark, Dual Duty Plus, Button and Craft )
    by creating a loop through the ring. We then use the thread to assist while tying on the leader.
    Then clip off the thread. I keep these rings with the thread in a ziplock bag in my vest.
    We've never had an issue loosing fish due to these rings.

  • @shanghunter7697
    @shanghunter7697 4 года назад +1

    Excellent educational videos gentleman, you now have my business and will tell my friends and family members to support/order from you guys.

  • @italiantroutaholic8926
    @italiantroutaholic8926 5 лет назад +4

    great teacher!

  • @TheAndrewlitchford
    @TheAndrewlitchford 5 лет назад +1

    Great stuff. Thank you for the tippet ring tip! I kept losing those little guys now I know what the clip is for.. Hahaha

  • @wildbill6526
    @wildbill6526 4 года назад

    Thanks for the information and I tied up a whole set up like you said. Have to try it out on the water now. Thanks

  • @arthurskim7898
    @arthurskim7898 3 года назад

    Years of practice ... make it look so easy. Bravo Zulu

  • @johnperryflyfishing
    @johnperryflyfishing 5 месяцев назад

    Great presentation!

  • @jeremyjohnston1413
    @jeremyjohnston1413 5 лет назад +3

    How about a video in this series about adding a new dropper line once you’ve cut it back a couple of times and it’s now to short

  • @algarcia157
    @algarcia157 4 года назад

    Good work, Lance! Exactly how I do it except I only use the 15 and 12 lb Maxima. About 4 feet of each.

    • @kencleg7721
      @kencleg7721 Год назад

      20/15/10/8 lite stuff 18 -26

  • @chriswalport2979
    @chriswalport2979 4 года назад +2

    Mr. Egan I've only been euro nymphing
    A few months and love my setup. It
    Works very well for me. I have a 11' 3w
    Rod with a 30' leader with just backing
    No fly line. I want to make my own leaders. Any suggestions on making
    My own that length?

  • @platty9237
    @platty9237 Год назад +1

    Man, I wish I could tie blood knots that quickly. 😂

  • @David-uj2ms
    @David-uj2ms 5 лет назад +6

    Lance should manufacture his own leaders. He can call them Sir Lancelot leaders.

  • @johnwpage
    @johnwpage 4 года назад +1

    Lance, thanks for the detailed video on how to set up a euro leader. What do you use for a running line and how long? I have a euro nymphing line. Do I just attach the leader you show in the video directly to the fly line?

  • @tiedbyblake
    @tiedbyblake 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for sharing! I am going to give this a try scaled for Steelhead!

    • @coreystoner4129
      @coreystoner4129 5 лет назад +1

      Blake Woolstenhulme I used a similar leader for steelhead last week and worked very well. I use a heavy sighter material so when I’m not nymphing vertically I can float my sighter for longer casts with smaller nymphs

    • @tiedbyblake
      @tiedbyblake 5 лет назад

      @@coreystoner4129 did you use amnesia for your sighter?

    • @coreystoner4129
      @coreystoner4129 5 лет назад +1

      No. I use cortland .14 diameter bicolor followed by .13 white sighter with bunny ears between the two colors for visibility and and for strike detection

    • @tiedbyblake
      @tiedbyblake 5 лет назад

      @@coreystoner4129 would you mind sharing a picture?

    • @coreystoner4129
      @coreystoner4129 5 лет назад

      Blake Woolstenhulme I don’t believe I can share a pic on RUclips. Are you asking for a pic of the bunny ears or my leader that I use

  • @trout_spankn_dominoeacosta6914

    What fly rod an reel combo u recommend to begin with. U highly recommend tho. Not expensive but but beginners either.

  • @dontrujillo1634
    @dontrujillo1634 4 года назад +1

    💥BOOM!!! EGAN/Olson 2020💥

  • @ripig111
    @ripig111 5 лет назад +1

    Looking forward to giving this a try. Two questions. Why do you use a surgeon knot rather than a blood knot to create the dropper? Wouldn't a tag from a blood knot be less likely to tangle given the 90-degree angle? Second, and this is similar to Jeffrey's question, should I modify (lengthen or shorten) this leader if I want to try it out with my 9-foot rod and floating fly line?

    • @mddmdd4766
      @mddmdd4766 5 лет назад +1

      Or use s tippet ring with clinch knots as I do. Works well.

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад

      I don’t use a blood knot for the dropper because the right angle in the tippet material isn’t nearly as strong. I don’t use a tippet ring for a dropper because it tangles more than the triple surgeons.

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy 2 года назад

    When if ever do you use an improved clinch knot over a clinch knot?

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  2 года назад

      Never. Never ever. Even if there is a fire.

  • @ionphone12345
    @ionphone12345 5 лет назад +2

    Great info,. I was looking for more info on the sighter since this part is where I am struggling. What size tippet is the sighter material? Anymore specific than "pretty heavy material"? Should that be like an 0x or 1x to keep with the tapper from 12 lb down? Can it be heavier than 12 lb? Much lighter like a 2x or 3x? How is the sighter material affecting the sensitivity?

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад +2

      It can be any diameter you’d like. Thicker is easier to see, but weighs more. Thicker leader and sighter are easier to cast, but because of the extra diameter they are more affected by wind and sag more making light flies hard to fish at distance. Thinner leader and sighter fishes farther away with less sag, let’s you use lighter flies but is terribly hard to cast.

    • @ionphone12345
      @ionphone12345 5 лет назад +1

      superflyvidz thank you!

    • @akintomeatloaf
      @akintomeatloaf 3 года назад

      I'm having the same issue. I have 4X sighter tippet and it's very difficult to tie good blood knots with the 12 lb.

  • @JC-xc8rx
    @JC-xc8rx 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @tongaexpress
    @tongaexpress Год назад

    How would you modify this for steelhead fishing the Great Lakes Tributaries?

  • @kencleg7721
    @kencleg7721 Год назад

    40 “ I use Cajun red I’ve used flo also same for catfish u ca see cause 5 ‘ or more is out the water anyways

  • @corybarnett652
    @corybarnett652 5 месяцев назад

    why use a clinch knot for sighter to ring but then a uni knot for tippet to ring? don't really understand the difference/advantage of one over the other

  • @EnterEther
    @EnterEther 3 года назад +1

    Loved Modern Nymphing! I have a quick question - what diameter(strength) of the indicator material are you using?

    • @mancooutwest44
      @mancooutwest44 3 года назад +1

      I’m guessing 12 lb to match the other 12lb sections Diameter. Doesn’t really matter. I’m going to try 10lb, but it may be difficult for me to see.

  • @tylermurph8321
    @tylermurph8321 6 месяцев назад

    What sighter is this(diameter)? And what length was added?

  • @PAwader
    @PAwader 6 месяцев назад

    What's the best way to attach the 20 lb butt section to the fly line?

  • @dustinrapp1728
    @dustinrapp1728 4 года назад

    Thanks Lance for the vid. Great info. I have a few questions:
    1. With using heavy flies with tungsten heads, are the flies not just rolling on the bottom like split shot? If so, how does this work if trout sit about 6 inches from the bottom and look up to feed? I usually use a shot dropper off my terminal fly to achieve this depth. I'm mostly euro fishing in winter when fish are deep in slower water.
    2. I tend to catch a lot of sucker fish, sonim wondering if my bugs are rolling on the bottom and not high enough in the column for trout
    3. If you still need to get down in faster water quicker, where on the tippit would you place split shot?

    • @undertoeoutdoors8317
      @undertoeoutdoors8317 4 года назад +1

      Dustin Rapp for me personally I like to drop shot when tight line nymphing. I pinch on split shot at the very end of my tippet. Then about 8-10” above the split shot I tie on a dropper tag of tippet about 6” long and attach my first nymph. Then going up the line another 12” or so, I do the same thing. Tie a dropper piece of tippet with my second nymph. The split shot is what is in contact with the bottom instead of a nymph. Of course this is just one method. There are many more. Play around with it and you’ll find what beat works for you.

  • @rgonzales9382
    @rgonzales9382 3 года назад

    What kind of knot are you tying at the end of the 20 to the fly line, especially when it has a factory knot.

  • @mainetroutwhisperer
    @mainetroutwhisperer 3 года назад

    what size tippet ring do you use? I got some tiny ones and keep breaking my tippet off when i clinch it down to the ring.

  • @douglasenders1250
    @douglasenders1250 4 года назад

    Do you just nail knot this to fly line? Can you nail knot on the loop of fly line or does it need cut off?

  • @markmywords8674
    @markmywords8674 4 года назад

    Cool. Thanks, Lance. Wondering, if you're ever in a situation where you're fishing very small creeks with mostly pocket water but a deeper pool here and there would you bother setting off for a day of fishing with a Euro leader attached or would you do something more conventional like a tapered dry dropper rig? In other words, do you ever use your Euro leader as a dry dropper or do you change back and forth? Thanks.

  • @robertrichardson6227
    @robertrichardson6227 2 месяца назад

    How about a micro swivel instead of a tippet ring

  • @matthowell1633
    @matthowell1633 4 года назад

    What's the difference between Maxima Chameleon and Ultra Green? Does it make any difference on this application?

  • @romeobeorchia2268
    @romeobeorchia2268 5 лет назад

    Great info Lance. I have been using this formula for a couple of seasons (learned from the Modern Nymphing DVD) and am ready to step down in size to increase my range. What would a light leader formula look like? Modern Nymphing Elevated has several level, untapered formulas from Devin, but no 42-42-42 formulas for lighter leaders. Would you be willing to share one that you like?

  • @hovhannesharutiunian1340
    @hovhannesharutiunian1340 2 года назад

    I assume this leader is attached to a standard fly line and not a Euro nymph line. Yes?

  • @carlogert3714
    @carlogert3714 4 года назад

    Lance, I have 12# and 20# maxima ultra green can I use that or am I better off getting the chameleon

  • @jasonstanley6084
    @jasonstanley6084 4 года назад

    Building the leader and all good but when I am connecting to the sighter material from the 12lb leader material I must of got to thin of sighter. How thick should the sighter mono be for the blood knot to hold?

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  4 года назад

      Blood knots are great for joining a little disparity in mono diameter/weight so anything in the 12lb to maybe 9lb sighter should be fine. The smaller the sighter material, the more difficult it will be to tie the knot. Takes some practice for sure!

  • @wildbill6526
    @wildbill6526 4 года назад

    From tippet ring you went 3-4’ of material and then you cut 20-24” separate tippet but you failed to say where you tied the dropper line with surgeons knott on the main tippet line. Or I missed it. Thanks

    • @brockwilson3446
      @brockwilson3446 4 года назад

      He said minimum 3 to 4 feet to the dropper, then 2 foot to the point fly. Depends on the water tho really.

  • @jackhuminski3390
    @jackhuminski3390 3 года назад

    So do you tie the end of the 20lb maxima to your usual fly line? Also, if you’re going to fish different rivers with different depths and currents do you just change the length of the tippet?

    • @matthewwhite876
      @matthewwhite876 11 месяцев назад

      Sighter should be 2feet long but I just use a small 2inch piece of braid tied to my leader I can move it, but yes you should be adjusting tippet length if it's really deep, but you don't have to

  • @jp410
    @jp410 4 года назад

    I would like to know more about the non-tapered version that is mentioned. I realize the tapered version might be better, but I don't want to shell out for 3 different chameleon diameters and whatever else I might need to create a section of transition material. I've already reached the limit (exceeded it) of my let's-give-it-a-try budget at $40: 15lb chameleon, cortland indicator mono, tippet rings, and 5x fluoro. There are lots of experience-driven formulas out there, and several mentions to the effect of "you don't need to taper," but very little demonstration of a leader not tapered in the butt section. Any formulaic suggestions using these 4 elements? I'd also be curious as to what adjustments would need to be made in casting and in the use of blood knots, since there'd be a greater difference in line diameters without a taper.

    • @jp410
      @jp410 4 года назад

      I would like to see an unedited video of several experienced fly fishing folks blood knotting 15 lb maxima chameleon (.015 inch) to 11.8 lb cortland indicator mono (.012 inch), with extreme close ups of the process and the results. After two days of trying this, it seems to me the best reason for a tapered leader (for me) is to facilitate the blood knots, if I don't want a bunch of tippet rings providing the connection between diameters. I'm probably now willing to pay for the other spools, just to be rid of the different diameter blood knot hassle.

    • @stevestringham1095
      @stevestringham1095 4 года назад

      @@jp410 try tying them together with an Uni knot. it's alot easier.

  • @flytyer2368
    @flytyer2368 5 лет назад +1

    Lance, all I can say is you’ve got game. Hey, where did you film the video. I love the flooring in the room. All my best!

    • @timperry6095
      @timperry6095 5 лет назад

      I believe that is inside Fly Fish Food in their learning/education area.

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад

      Thx. This was filmed in the shop in Orem, UT (Fly Fish Food).

  • @christianwood7432
    @christianwood7432 5 лет назад

    Thanks lance.

  • @johnspiezia
    @johnspiezia 4 года назад

    Lance, great video. What method do you use to attach the leader to the fly line?

    • @santaellamedia7077
      @santaellamedia7077 3 года назад +1

      I was curious myself and opted for a nail knot. It worked good for me, hope this helps!

    • @mancooutwest44
      @mancooutwest44 3 года назад

      Needle nail not also works and may be slightly better.

  • @gldead3741
    @gldead3741 2 года назад

    Do you pre build leaders to take with you or do you build them all on the stream side?

    • @patrickmcphee770
      @patrickmcphee770 Год назад

      what do you think? Who wants to spend valuable time while fishing, tying entire leaders?

  • @brianrogerson4342
    @brianrogerson4342 4 года назад

    A closer video with a backdrop with colored lines would’ve been a lot better

  • @petergiamalakis6733
    @petergiamalakis6733 3 года назад

    Whattt? Not the whole spool of indicator mono straight to the tippet ring!?

    • @Jaimelapoesie
      @Jaimelapoesie 3 года назад

      This video is old, he probably is doing that now too.

  • @jedsmith2707
    @jedsmith2707 5 лет назад +1

    i've just started learning how to euro nymph one problem i always run into its my top fly on the tag will twist around the line going down to my point fly is there a solution for this?

    • @Jaimelapoesie
      @Jaimelapoesie 5 лет назад

      I find it handy to carry a twist tie or a pipe cleaner, and wrap the dropper fly up when moving around. If you're casting at it's twisting, you're probably not casting correctly. Also, a very long dropper seems to tangle more than a shorter one.

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  5 лет назад +1

      Jed Smith it will appear to twist around the line, but it will kind of auto-correct once it hits the water. Another possibility is that your tag sections are too long.

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад

      Jed Smith stiffer tippet will help but twisting is going to happen a little no matter what. The fish don’t care if it’s twisted. Twisting is worse if you use a large fly or fly with legs like a Pats stonefly or squirmy with thin tippet (like 6x). Thicker or stiffer tippet will have less twisting.

  • @mddmdd4766
    @mddmdd4766 5 лет назад

    Have you guys tried the Cutthroat Euro Leader? Works really well. No line memory.

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  5 лет назад

      MDD MDD the only issue with furled leaders is that they tend to absorb water and cause sag.

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад

      They’re too heavy, they freeze and hold water. For euro nymphing (and every other technique in my opinion) you don’t want a braided or furled leader.

    • @mddmdd4766
      @mddmdd4766 5 лет назад

      That is very true. But this one only the sighter is furled with the portion in the water being a braided 20lb test black to a tippet ring and then to your tippet material.
      I was very surprised how well it worked too.
      Still like your way better for line control.

  • @mikeoriol568
    @mikeoriol568 5 лет назад

    why the clinch knot to the tippet ring with the sighter but uni knot to the tippet ring with the tippet?

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад

      Mike Oriol strength. Sighter is far stronger and doesn’t need the extra strength of the uni knot. Fine tippet is best attached with a uni knot.

    • @gregderoeck3231
      @gregderoeck3231 4 года назад

      @@Lanceeganflyfishing Hello sir! I'm finding that when I tie the uni knot to my tippet ring (I use Trout Hunter 5.5 tippet), it seems to break very easily when I try and tighten it up. Is it just a matter of knowing how hard to pull it, or could it be because of sharper edges in the tippet ring, or that the line is just weak? Sort of a stupid question, but it just seems it breaks under not that much force.

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 4 года назад

      Greg DeRoeck it’s hard to say for sure but assuming you’re tying the uni knot correctly, and your tippet is good, it’s most likely the tippet ring. Many brands of tippet rings have sharp edges. Try a cortland or hanak brand tippet ring.

  • @native_edn_flyfishing854
    @native_edn_flyfishing854 5 лет назад

    Nice video. Fishing the euro and French leader has been brilliant for me this winter here in the UK. Check out my videos for some of my days out 👍🏼

  • @CHI-ts2dk
    @CHI-ts2dk 4 года назад

    Ma chi te l'ha detto? HAHAHAHA!

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  4 года назад

      Gino Laghi funny joke. No se hobble espaniel

    • @CHI-ts2dk
      @CHI-ts2dk 4 года назад

      @@FlyFishFood It is Italian, not spanish...your knowledge of languages match your knowledge of fishing!
      I have been fishing for the last 70 years, in Europe and in America and what you are teaching is wrong, uncomplete and it is NOT what we do in Europe.
      I recommend you look (RUclips) "pesca al tocco per trote o altri video from france and Germany and you will see how nymph fishers used 99% of the techniques used in natural bait fishing. it was done all over, and the "secret" was kept for many, many years, till the fishing tournament in Polonia (1984, Durajec) in which they fished without a fly line.
      When you make your leaders, the heel is longer than the rod and treated so to be soft and with "no memory" .
      In this kind of fishing, you go to the fish, but 25' are quite sufficient to cover a lot of water. Flies are much lighter than the Czech way of doing.
      The sighter has a different use of what you are saying...……..
      Well, I am done!

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  4 года назад

      Gino Laghi Relax!!! It was a joke kind of intended for putting a passive aggressive comment in another language instead of English (which you apparently speak.) This leader is a proven fish catcher all around the world. I guess we’ll just listen to what the trout say.

    • @CHI-ts2dk
      @CHI-ts2dk 4 года назад

      @@FlyFishFood First of all, let me apologize if I was some kind of snappy. I am not saing that what you do is wrong....there not right or wrong in fishing; I am just saying that many issues are missing or incorrect. Take the sighter, for example nobody, and I mean nobody explain how to use it: Europeans for a form of omerta and Americans don't have a clue (no offence intended). OK then, this is how the sighter is used. Indeed is a bicolor thing (I don't use mono nor Amnesia) and it tells me how and at what depth the fish is "working". Let's say I got a strike 2 inches below the knot, all my drift will be or end 2 inches below the knot. Another thing never said is that the tippet, from the sighter to the fly should be changed every time accordingly to the depth of the pool you are fishing
      Tight lines

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  4 года назад

      Gino Laghi correct. This isn’t meant to be an all-in-one instructional fishing video. There are many other videos for that.

  • @bogus_not_me
    @bogus_not_me 5 лет назад

    Several questions - I have been fishing for many years, and don't even know what a "sider" is. I also do not understand why you are using 20, 15, or 12 lb leader - trout, even steelhead, rarely require that strength of leader. Frankly you are terrible at explaining or showing what you are doing. I can't even see the leader from the distance you filmed this. I'm very disappointed in this demo!

    • @FlyFishFood
      @FlyFishFood  5 лет назад +5

      Hi Carl, taken out of context I'm sure you're confused, so don't worry that you're new to this. First thing is to learn all you can about Euro style nymphing and why you have leaders built like this. We've got some excellent resources here: store.flyfishfood.com/fly-fishing-euro-nymphing-s/4612.htm That link also includes some great videos we recommend to learn about this. And you'll learn what a "sighter" is. Also, regarding the leader "viewing", you might have missed the separate videos we posted showing closeups of the setup. Anyway, we invite you to learn more about this effective method of nymphing. Take care!

    • @Lanceeganflyfishing
      @Lanceeganflyfishing 5 лет назад +3

      Carl Anglin you need to see the video, Modern Nymphing. store.flyfishfood.com/Modern-Nymphing-European-Inspired-Techniques-p/mnydvd.htm
      It will help you understand what’s being talked about in this RUclips video.
      Next up, tapered leaders for trout usually start with a butt section in a diameter range of .021”-.024”. In pound test this would be in the 25-30 pound range. With that in mind hopefully you’ll understand that we are making a leader that is thinner than your average trout leader. Also, don’t confuse leader and tippet. The 20/15/12 are only the leader butt. We’ll fish 5x or 6x tippet to the flies. This is very thin and quite common sizing for trout fishing.