Komatsu 575s are huge and though you think otherwise would take some time to transport. They would have to be dismantled or fitted on a big enough flatbed trailer.
Yep, the D6's can get into tight spots and be transported on ramped lowboys for quick deployment. My state is currently on fire and I've seen CALFIRE QRF roll onscene with the D6 unchained, running and a driver on it, ready to roll. Off the back of the lowboy and up the hill nothing gets in the way.
As we all know, when it comes to government spending, the sky is the limit. So when they are fighting fires, why don't they get about 50 of the Komatsu 575s and put a quick end to it?
kdw75 because that lint of dizer sent across the roads plus the cost of manufacturing and then equipping then fueling then maintaining then disassembly then transport or pay extra for refuel or replace parts of etc etc etc is greater than uncle Sam s current plan
Those monsters are moved around in pieces and assembled on site. A Komatsu would cost at least 4 times a d7. Fire fighting is dangerous, losing that much of your capability in 1 burn over accident would be very bad. 200 machines versus 50..... Heck the roads to get those dozers back to the fire simply do not exist, putting them together and then expecting them to obliterate their own road through perfectly good forest does not make any sense.
Those rigs are difficult to move. They usually have to get broken down and assembled on site by a crew. You can roll and deploy a fully loaded D6 blades and all on a lowboy with some chains. Cant do the same with a 575
It's sucks my old man use to operate one of these old td20 with an open ropes he did it for years at the Victoria bushfires and now there outlawed to open ropes cab
The weight of a D10T is roughly 65 ton, they could be air lifted to an area and worked, the forest service fire fighting is like everything else this is the way its always been done why change it!!
that's when the grunts of firefighters come in the handline crews....they are the force that dig handline, not forgetting the hotshot crews that go to the front lines in the wildfires. dozers only do so much and they are slow.
@@hamishcampbell4578 i disagree with you but couldnt find any evidence to suport either argument. So at least in my opinion california is on the leading edge of wildland firefighting.
Wrong mate my old man was at the front line with a dozer making a road with in metres of the fire trying to circle the fire in. Thats in Australia here down in Victoria
william davidson not anymore than any other tractor. all dozers go through a crap load of dust. And these dozers have a pre airfilter to prevent embers burning the normal airfilter
i have known for over a decade never engage a fire with flames over 8 feet high with a hand crew 8 feet and above qith a bulldozer good work ldes safety 1st make sure u have good escape toutes and communications basically good common sense
look at the vegetation of coarse it is bloody AUSTRALIA, Victoria to be precise the vehicles have CFA insignia and the green PPE overalls are Victorian Dept of ENVIRONMENT staff. If it was NSW RFS they would all be eating or asleep or in front of a camera.
the Clink of the tracks was always a welcomed sound on the fireline
You're doing a good job there Riverside county don't know how to put out fires what's the weather suck in Riverside county
Very courageous people like going to war and putting his/her own life on the line. Thank you.
I like those TD20s. Not a bad machine. I got to operate an 80s TD20G a few years back plowing snow.
I have a TD15B which is a little smaller but similar and I love it!
Komatsu 575s are huge and though you think otherwise would take some time to transport. They would have to be dismantled or fitted on a big enough flatbed trailer.
Alex Reay that it's that big of a dozen in comparison to most..
Yep, the D6's can get into tight spots and be transported on ramped lowboys for quick deployment. My state is currently on fire and I've seen CALFIRE QRF roll onscene with the D6 unchained, running and a driver on it, ready to roll. Off the back of the lowboy and up the hill nothing gets in the way.
No way a dozer that size could be deployed in that terrain and too tight of spots.
As we all know, when it comes to government spending, the sky is the limit. So when they are fighting fires, why don't they get about 50 of the Komatsu 575s and put a quick end to it?
....and to remedy the spotting issues?
kdw75 because that lint of dizer sent across the roads plus the cost of manufacturing and then equipping then fueling then maintaining then disassembly then transport or pay extra for refuel or replace parts of etc etc etc is greater than uncle Sam s current plan
Those monsters are moved around in pieces and assembled on site. A Komatsu would cost at least 4 times a d7. Fire fighting is dangerous, losing that much of your capability in 1 burn over accident would be very bad. 200 machines versus 50.....
Heck the roads to get those dozers back to the fire simply do not exist, putting them together and then expecting them to obliterate their own road through perfectly good forest does not make any sense.
@@cameronstoltie5952 we already pay millions each year
Those rigs are difficult to move. They usually have to get broken down and assembled on site by a crew. You can roll and deploy a fully loaded D6 blades and all on a lowboy with some chains. Cant do the same with a 575
i love the whine on those machines ! its amazing !
Back then it was gear drive not hydrostate couldnt agree more with ya
Old clutch drive beast
It's sucks my old man use to operate one of these old td20 with an open ropes he did it for years at the Victoria bushfires and now there outlawed to open ropes cab
bunch of softcocks they are, half the reason the bushfires get so out of hand now is bureaucracy gets in the way of trying to get the job done
who! much respect!
The government putting out fires for the last 100 years is also to blame
What's your solution? Do you have any experience in fire.
Dude with th tree spear probably cussing around at them guys standing around there
The weight of a D10T is roughly 65 ton, they could be air lifted to an area and worked, the forest service fire fighting is like everything else this is the way its always been done why change it!!
Where you get 65 tons from try 100 tons then the d11 at 120 tons
@@kronickiller D10T = 155,000 lbs D11t = 230,000 lbs D10T = 77.5 Tons D11T= 115 Tons
@@kronickiller Metric or Imperial Tons?
@@fredscheerle7592 metric
The operator who had the track edge give way ok?
I remember that fire. It blew up later that day.
that's when the grunts of firefighters come in the handline crews....they are the force that dig handline, not forgetting the hotshot crews that go to the front lines in the wildfires. dozers only do so much and they are slow.
5.5 mph is slow when you have a full load in front of you?
@@squiggy-nh1oo dude has never ridden a dozen before
Mate this was filmed in Australia we pretty much wrote the book on bush fire fighting. I think they know what they are doing
@@hamishcampbell4578 i disagree with you but couldnt find any evidence to suport either argument. So at least in my opinion california is on the leading edge of wildland firefighting.
Wrong mate my old man was at the front line with a dozer making a road with in metres of the fire trying to circle the fire in. Thats in Australia here down in Victoria
Thunderbirds Firefly in real life
those trees fall over easy..
Trees are no match for a bit of leverave and 25tons of moving iron...
The stinger does it!
Curious on where this was love the td20
Victoria, Australia. the td20's sound the best
Nah! Bloody TD20 has a Galar skwalking when reversing.
I have a TD15 and love it that TD20 is awesome!!
They must go through a lot of air filters!
william davidson not anymore than any other tractor. all dozers go through a crap load of dust. And these dozers have a pre airfilter to prevent embers burning the normal airfilter
we blow them all the time 3 x a day when its bad and most of us carry spares as theres a service ute in the line always
Those suits are silly looking! Green and yellow! The only way to go!
I have run heavy equipment for over 40 years I do not want any part of this
Vere danger
Need a couple D11Cats out there
To heavy get bogged
i have known for over a decade never engage a fire with flames over 8 feet high with a hand crew 8 feet and above qith a bulldozer good work ldes safety 1st make sure u have good escape toutes and communications basically good common sense
Lol that’s why nobody will ever know who you are
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government burns it poor land owner fighting to save it !
Is this in Australia?
At first I thought so but looking at the uploader's name I think it's Pohangina Valley, New Zealand
look at the vegetation of coarse it is bloody AUSTRALIA, Victoria to be precise the vehicles have CFA insignia and the green PPE overalls are Victorian Dept of ENVIRONMENT staff. If it was NSW RFS they would all be eating or asleep or in front of a camera.
@@cjw7924 Your comments on the veg are a bit... coarse? Be nice ;)
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