Which Paragon Remake Is Better? (The Overprime vs. Predecessor)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2022
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  • @KrashyPKMN
    @KrashyPKMN  Год назад +7

    FRIENDS: I've decided to move ALL Predecessor content to my main channel and to use this channel for Paragon: The Overprime! If you want to support make sure you subscribe to my main channel! www.youtube.com/@Krashy

  • @CHAMPDOGZ
    @CHAMPDOGZ Год назад +108

    What worries me about both is that they will split the community and cause low population on both... Paragon original didn't have a large population to begin with it wasn't a very small population but that's what I'm worried about this time around

    • @cannibalshredz5271
      @cannibalshredz5271 Год назад +18

      That’s exactly what will happen and the population for pred will be lower due to the pay wall on their game.

    • @stormshadow5382
      @stormshadow5382 Год назад +14

      @@cannibalshredz5271 that's only for the early access. For full release both will be free. But yes the split population will be a problem.

    • @cannibalshredz5271
      @cannibalshredz5271 Год назад +7

      @@stormshadow5382 yea for at least 6 months they will have early access, in the mean time Op will have time to establish gaining new players with a progression system and ranked system. People dont want to pay for a unfinished game.

    • @landonperry9371
      @landonperry9371 Год назад +6

      Yeah I have this same worry. Honestly hope one of them wins out and just 99% of players are on one. I'm fine with either

    • @VegaSlides
      @VegaSlides Год назад +1

      @@landonperry9371 Yeah. It'll be unfortunate for the losing devs, but better overall for the community's future

  • @MadnessInTheMoonlight
    @MadnessInTheMoonlight Год назад +46

    Go with the one that FEELS the best NOT looks the best.
    Predecessor has my vote

    • @ThreesixnineGF
      @ThreesixnineGF Год назад +3

      I love Omeda Studio's commitment to making a game that feels right and fun first before even thinking about adding and tweaking all the bonus stuff on top

    • @eteraxsax5440
      @eteraxsax5440 Год назад +2

      Yea, and then Predecessor has bad latency, then scam players so they can't refund their purchase. That a no for me

    • @Cam1an
      @Cam1an Год назад +2

      @@eteraxsax5440 freakin same bro so scummy

    • @purplefyrus5370
      @purplefyrus5370 Год назад

      Im enjoying predecessor more gameplay wise and its F2p so thats my vote

    • @headmasterbaitsman7179
      @headmasterbaitsman7179 Год назад

      @@eteraxsax5440 Damn I hope you don’t go bankrupt by losing $10 dollars 💀 llorón

  • @MrJeffreyrichards
    @MrJeffreyrichards Год назад +16

    They should combine forces and just make one that will help reduce work time. Also no morgesh she needs to be added.

    • @k0zar
      @k0zar Год назад +1

      Overprime is being made in korea and predecessor is in USA

    • @ZakariaGriche
      @ZakariaGriche Год назад +3

      @MrJeffreyrichards @@k0zar predecessor is UK ,the developer 'omeda studios' base are in london, both games have great ideas the most i like in OP is the bush specially when you play as assassin class or jungle role, hope they add this feature to pred somehow.

  • @hectorroman7971
    @hectorroman7971 Год назад +8

    The first one who releases on console will win. There are thousands of people on console trying to get a MOBA that replaces SMITE

    • @Aztec96
      @Aztec96 Год назад

      Judging by who may be closer, gotta give it to Predecessor for giving early access with controller support.

    • @Diablopray
      @Diablopray Год назад

      @@Aztec96is it early access on console?

    • @Aztec96
      @Aztec96 Год назад +2

      @@Diablopray sadly no, but they have plans for console with cross progression.

  • @redexpulsion91
    @redexpulsion91 Год назад +7

    also on a technical note, Predecessor is now running completely on Unreal 5 so it'll be supported better and longer and has a lot more access game making util

    • @refloxi5290
      @refloxi5290 Год назад +2

      Overprime implements the same so no real argument

    • @bluemau596
      @bluemau596 Год назад +1

      @@refloxi5290 except in Overprime the graphics look like you're playing on a 480p monitor that was touched up and branded as 1080p. Pred is actually utilizing UE5 and can tell

    • @refloxi5290
      @refloxi5290 Год назад +1

      @@bluemau596 Dont know me and my friends didnt have any Probleme with the Resolution, and UE5 in predecessor looks like UE3 in other games so... maybe get some glasses lol

    • @redexpulsion91
      @redexpulsion91 Год назад

      @@refloxi5290 just wrong

  • @SlickyGOGO
    @SlickyGOGO Год назад +50

    On the topic of presentation vs. game play between overprime and predecessor. I and many others would greatly prefer games play well rather than look pretty. I think preserving the smooth and responsive game play loop of the og paragon is crucial for any remake that wants to last for any considerable length of time. It doesn't matter to players (especially ones that won't be playing the game on max settings) whether or not their skins look cool if it doesn't feel just as cool to play the character. For this reason, I feel like predecessor, despite it rolling out slower, will ultimately be the better remake.

    • @naruto00nix
      @naruto00nix Год назад +2

      also it is much easier to improve the presentation and UI of a game after launch than to make the gameplay feel responsive and impactful :)

    • @danro7593
      @danro7593 Год назад +4

      @@naruto00nix I disagree with this, they will likely not touch most of the presentation of the game after release. Especially if it's textures/character models. They might fix the UI but it's likely going to look worse than Overprime forever. If Overprime's responsiveness issue is just an optimization thing then it may even launch into early access in a much better state than what he describes in this video, and will probably improve over time regardless.

  • @xXxDogbeastxXx
    @xXxDogbeastxXx Год назад +1

    The video we've all been waiting for lol. Great vid, brother. Love hearing your thoughts and your comparison

  • @ThreesixnineGF
    @ThreesixnineGF Год назад +25

    I'll go with Predecessor
    I love Omeda Studio's commitment to making a game that feels right and fun first before even thinking about adding and tweaking all the bonus stuff on top
    Plus it's got the closest gameplay to Monolith Paragon which I prefered over the Legacy map.

  • @HammyAndSammy
    @HammyAndSammy Год назад +11

    Huh i didn't know the two games compete with each other
    The bush thing is pretty nice, if you're observant enough you're rewarded by being able to see that there is an enemy there through the rustle
    Or i could be wrong maybe it rustles as well for your allies or are you able to see your allies already despite being in the bush

  • @Husslehoff
    @Husslehoff Год назад +10

    After playing at least 20 hours of both, I honestly don't know which one I prefer. It will probably come down to smaller balance details for me, the one that feels more fair to play will win. But if my friends choose the other one, I don't think I'll mind switching.

  • @sdy163
    @sdy163 Год назад +3

    Crunch, that it, this guy, this guy only the reason why i prefer Predecessor

  • @adrianfolstad4925
    @adrianfolstad4925 Год назад +1

    is there any difference on how many characters each game has, or is it the same?

  • @eddyofthedead4096
    @eddyofthedead4096 Год назад +2

    ive yet to see someone touch on this but as someone who has never played paragon, I played overprime recently and it didn't feel like a moba to me as much, compared to what ive seen from predecessor especially with the item shop which is the main thing i wanted to touch on , it looks better and seems to be alot easier to maneuver and understand as someone who is new to the game and items

  • @awesomeswifter1138
    @awesomeswifter1138 Год назад +3

    I found predecessor first and its the one i supported the longest, ive also waited for it for so long. When i got the notification "steam has removed predecessor from your library due to the publisher" i was like WHAT then seen that EA started. I was happy, and personally i like predecessor the most

  • @Clorox_TV
    @Clorox_TV Год назад +1

    Great video, I pretty much agree with all these points. 👍

  • @kitneko
    @kitneko Год назад +1

    the only thing that I like in sprint mode is the animation that could be used in normal walk... like gideon flying instead running

  • @amedkit
    @amedkit Год назад +3

    Great comparison!

  • @miguelacosta385
    @miguelacosta385 Год назад +27

    The gameplay and design choices are why I ultimately choose Pred over OP. The teleporters and the way certain characters feel in OP and sprint mode it just doesn’t feel as good as pred did when I played the stress test. I do think that if pred didn’t exist op would be a decent substitute but because pred does exist I gotta give it to pred

    • @k0zar
      @k0zar Год назад +4

      I gotta agree with you predecessor focusing on gameplay optimization is a huge 1 up on overprime which us really clunky and buggy. I never liked travel mode. And the portals are really strong as well as using the prime gaurdian to win

    • @pandoo967
      @pandoo967 Год назад

      Sprint is fuvking awesome. OP is way more dynamic.

    • @hanncokky773
      @hanncokky773 Год назад

      also a very bias opinionid play an see for your self

    • @miguelacosta385
      @miguelacosta385 Год назад

      @@hanncokky773 not really I played all 3 op tests and it never really improved beside frame rate so

    • @grief6052
      @grief6052 Год назад

      @@pandoo967 “dynamic” bro late game is relegated completely to “who’s ADS is not a fucking retard”
      If your ADS can hit like, three shots back to back, they can clean up the whole team

  • @Rhyds86
    @Rhyds86 Год назад +2

    I heard of PAragon years ago. Heard good things but never played it myself. recently saw that it's making a come back. Put it on my steam wishlist to keep tabs on it. Got seriously confused when i found another games that looks like it's clone but is a separate games. I thought my brain was malfunctioning at first but lo and behold I find out there's TWO Paragon games about to come out. About to sit down and watch this to find out why that is. Cheers.

    • @Silv3rmind
      @Silv3rmind Год назад

      There are a few remakes of it. Fault is another one.

  • @Validlorian
    @Validlorian Год назад +4

    Your Flash in Overprime is your starter item. Both games have that option.

    • @KrashyPKMN
      @KrashyPKMN  Год назад +2

      Yeah but not for junglers, true though!

  • @swifti1001
    @swifti1001 Год назад

    3:10 Super agree. I don't know what it is. Is it the HUD information or sound design? Most of the time I didn't know if I hitting something or not

  • @lilkhmer5
    @lilkhmer5 Год назад +3

    Gameplay is always king. UI isn't hard to change or update but if u can't get gameplay right that's a no go for me.

  • @hulkmutant_hd5788
    @hulkmutant_hd5788 Год назад

    how it will end look on leagoe of legends and dota

  • @WinduTheMaceGaming
    @WinduTheMaceGaming Год назад

    Great video!

  • @RamenLewis
    @RamenLewis Год назад

    I'm interested in how assasin's play without bushes?

  • @Sn1pEzTV
    @Sn1pEzTV Год назад +2

    So in comparison it really depends on personal preference and experiences, but what i'm wondering about is, which of these 2 feel most similar to the OG Paragon?

    • @DeltaLegi0n
      @DeltaLegi0n Год назад +2

      Honestly as someone who played the OG paragon when the bundles to play first came out, Overprime is the OG paragon. Predecessor is paragon after the monolith update where they removed the travel mode function while increasing base character speed and shrunk the map. If you want the absolute original gameplay when paragon first came out overprime is the game for you. If you want more traditional moba gameplay then predecessor is probably the better choice

  • @ArkSylv
    @ArkSylv Год назад

    I enjoy Predecessor but I really want to get my hands on some of the other characters that aren't in the game

  • @benfox6383
    @benfox6383 Год назад

    How were these 2 games released on steam in the same week? Its crazy

  • @2D_Stranger
    @2D_Stranger Год назад +2

    Things about Predecessor I want them to improve are the the little camera sway, visual effects, and sound design of abilities and basic attacks cuz it feels like there isn't weight to the attacks compared to Paragon. The announcer are okay, but Paragon's announcer was better imo. The item icons look dull too. The texture of environments, characters, lighting are amazing tho. For the animation, last time I saw it wasn't very 'Paragon' smooth. We're still in early access so there's definitely improvements to come in the future when they get more people on the team.

    • @pandoo967
      @pandoo967 Год назад

      That's why Overprime is better for me. More subtle things were polished and so last tests were more enjoyable for me.

  • @abrogaming5976
    @abrogaming5976 Год назад

    I've been watching pred for a while as I never played paragon, but love Mobas, so I'm trying both this week.

  • @ML7WL
    @ML7WL Год назад +3

    Mobas flattened out the hype, repeating the traditional formula feels boring to me...what drew me to paragon originally was how unique and stunning it was, and I lamented not coming in time to play the full big map. Still I enjoyed a lot in my potato pc, overprime gets more this feeling of wonder and uniqueness. Don't think the wide field of view and pacing is a detriment, it encourages you even more to stay alert and positioning.

  • @viperishotaf
    @viperishotaf Год назад +1

    overprime got the naming rights from epic so its the true paragon sucessor

  • @opearatedpoem659
    @opearatedpoem659 Год назад +11

    Thanks for the video it was quite informative. I enjoyed your view on what made Predecessor better. Although personally, I'm drawn more to Overprime for similar reasons why you dislike it. Larger open feeling maps, better mobility that isn't on a 5min timer, the ability to see into the jungle, etc.. The graphics and UI MAYBE will get better with Predecessor, similarly the performance COULD get better with Overprime. Who knows, only time will tell. But you can see through the core mechanics, what each game wants to be. And for me I love that Overprime wants to be different and is capable of trying something experimental like with the sprint mode mechanic (I've never seen that one before). On the other hand, Predecessor wants to be a traditional MOBA and nothing is wrong with that. But I was drawn to SMITE because it wasn't like Dota or League, it was similar but uniquely different, and I'd like to think that's what made it popular (maybe I'm wrong). To make a long story short (Too Late!), I'm much more excited to see what new things are going to come from Overprime, than Predecessor. In the end it's all in the names, one wants to be "at a higher level than its best quality" and the other "Just like what came beforehand".

    • @izanagisoh1883
      @izanagisoh1883 Год назад +1

      Sprint mode was in the original paragon in the early stages, when the map was huge looked quite similar to overprimes map.. the way they balanced sprint mode however was it automatically activated after a few seconds of not being in combat.. which is a better balancing than overprime has, but they got rid of sprint mode when they made the map smaller and stopped being basically just a team deathmatch style of game

    • @salisrex4866
      @salisrex4866 Год назад +1

      I think overprice might have 2 maps the original and monolith which I love the sprint and the overprime dunking mechanic and teleport is so good in overprime map it makes the solo lane a little more mobile to help and move but also get ganked

  • @ev304
    @ev304 Год назад +2

    overprime has my vote and will ultimately win because it is free like every other moba, i also like to portals adds some skill gape to the game for jg

  • @rafaelcarrasco2600
    @rafaelcarrasco2600 Год назад

    But the big question we want to know is which one will go to console/s first (ps4/5 only or ps4/5 and Xbox one/series x/s), remember on console it had more players than PC.

  • @guilherme221015
    @guilherme221015 Год назад +1

    itemization felt ctrlc ctrlv. on paragon we had very unic cards such as the art such as the effects.

  • @Daniel-xv3nw
    @Daniel-xv3nw Год назад

    predecessor is not free to play?

  • @landonperry9371
    @landonperry9371 Год назад +1

    I love alot of the changes over prime has made but wish it was a little more gameplay polished like pred. Pred feels super far away from ranked and ui polish.

  • @JDLaws93
    @JDLaws93 Год назад

    Overprime: flash over substance
    Predecessor: substance over flash

  • @hanncokky773
    @hanncokky773 Год назад

    i feel comepletely different most of my hitching an bug came from pred an not overprime at least from now a days

  • @seluRredruM
    @seluRredruM Год назад +2

    First time with your content, good job 7/10. Keep working.

  • @wingediesu
    @wingediesu Год назад

    overprime has blink on gems one of the starting items that can be upgraded .

  • @celoteck
    @celoteck Год назад

    Predecessor but with Overprime UI and the a bit more crisp look would be best

  • @Raphaelbooje
    @Raphaelbooje Год назад +5

    There is one simple reason I prefer Overprime to Pred. Pred lacks the feeling of playing a game. Everything just seems shallow. I think the best way to describe it is, whether I am playing or watching someone play doesn't matter. There is no immersion going on.
    Hopefully they fixed that since the last time I played, which was half a year or more ago.
    Also I think asking for money, when they got so little to show for, is gonna hurt them a lot. Especially with Overprime being free right next to it.

    • @bluemau596
      @bluemau596 Год назад

      It will be free, but the EA is $10. 100% worth tbh. The player count shows it. Almost, if not over 10k players, which is huge for an EA game.

    • @Raphaelbooje
      @Raphaelbooje Год назад

      @@bluemau596 Yeah it will be free in 6-12 months or even longer. We don't know an actual ETA yet. Overprime will be free in 5 days. Also playercount according to steamdb peaked at 7,339. Which I around 25% of what overprime had during during their final Test. So 7.5k is not that big of a number.

    • @zoulsgaming9455
      @zoulsgaming9455 Год назад

      @@Raphaelbooje one open limited time beta will peak yeah, free will drag in more and also see a significant drop off faster. if you think 7.5k is too little then im imagining that after a week of OP you will say the exact same right?

    • @Raphaelbooje
      @Raphaelbooje Год назад

      @@zoulsgaming9455 we only talking about peak right now. as you said f2p will have more people coming in. not talking about retention

  • @ItsaSecretEU
    @ItsaSecretEU Год назад

    Some good thoughts.

  • @nurpiet
    @nurpiet Год назад

    how did we even go from the game shutting down to spawning 2 remakes at the same time lmao

  • @HunterBBQ
    @HunterBBQ Год назад

    let meet in predecessor soon buddy!

  • @devonthompson9922
    @devonthompson9922 Год назад

    Liked,commented and subscribed

  • @teddymou7878
    @teddymou7878 Год назад +1

    epic games is promoting The overprime, it more like the original paragon with the larger maps.

  • @ezpz4659
    @ezpz4659 Год назад

    1 hour until Early Access omg. I havent played Paragon in like 5 years LOL

  • @789Noctis
    @789Noctis Год назад

    Imo:
    Overprime is like turbo mode in Dota 2 and ARAM for LOL.
    Predecessor is just normal mode.

  • @muriloalves8703
    @muriloalves8703 Год назад

    Predecessor has better gameplay feeling, UI, HUD, colors and graphics can be improved... but gameplay?

  • @specialfighter87
    @specialfighter87 Год назад

    Wie kann man es vergleichen ohne beide aktuellen test gespielt zuhaben 🤔

    • @NumbersLevin.
      @NumbersLevin. Год назад

      Mann konnte doch beide testen, Paragon The Overprime test phase lief doch auch vor kurzem und predecessor davor.

  • @andrasylvan9915
    @andrasylvan9915 Год назад

    Overprime UI is so much better. I hope Predecessor improves the UI

  • @quinnifersbody
    @quinnifersbody Год назад +1

    im just so scared to sink time into one just for it to fail. idk which to choose

    • @noize7816
      @noize7816 Год назад

      This is exactly what I'm feeling currently. I'm so undecided.

    • @mokokoandy9029
      @mokokoandy9029 Год назад

      the free one ofcourse.. nobody wants to pay to play a moba

  • @roelbrekelmans4688
    @roelbrekelmans4688 Год назад +14

    Predecessor is more a traditional moba and over prime is a different take and I think that will win. Predecessor will feel dull really fast I think because it is just another moba.
    Over primes map is bigger and had more vertical and that is what paragon players loved and what distinguishes paragon over other MOBAs.
    I don’t really see the unique selling point of predecessor
    But both look great!

    • @k0zar
      @k0zar Год назад +4

      All the new and extra things in overprime aren't exactly good design choices. Predecessor's selling point is smooth gameplay with no bugs

  • @Chambers-ie8ie
    @Chambers-ie8ie Год назад

    I do miss khimera and jungle

  • @blushingralseiuwu2222
    @blushingralseiuwu2222 Год назад +1

    I choose Predecessor just because Overprime is involved with Netmarble lmaoo

  • @chazfromouterspace
    @chazfromouterspace Год назад

    whichever is free has my vote

  • @titus4166
    @titus4166 Год назад +1

    I just played predecessor today for the their early access. I like it way better than Overprime. Graphics are better, gameplay is better and the gaming community is nicer. Overprime community is very toxic. Overprime play felt choppy as were Pred felt polished and more clean. I just hope the bring phase back as a support and NOT as a carry or solo like Overprime.

  • @GRAVYTRAIN-gaming
    @GRAVYTRAIN-gaming Год назад

    Pred is better and more polished than both PTOP and Fault imo

  • @raarrrrarara8315
    @raarrrrarara8315 Год назад

    original paragon game had sprint and bushes in the first edition.

  • @mdarou2005
    @mdarou2005 Год назад +1

    Slightly off topic but…it’s strange to see you without the blue hair!

  • @picofrance
    @picofrance Год назад +4

    Simply fact here : one is free with ranked and more character planned, the
    other Ask me money for no options...
    Overprime the 8th ! 😉

    • @magickmeat8763
      @magickmeat8763 Год назад

      I mean yeah lmao that's an extremely good point that's gonna sway a LOT of people. Why I'm not so sure Predecessor will last because of its garbage approach to the monetization and launch. One game has way less content with an immediate gate to entry. The other has way more content and is free to play. I wonder which one more people will gravitate to? Not a hard guess lmao.

    • @dominiquesmith6745
      @dominiquesmith6745 Год назад

      Its fkn $10 i swear yall are so broke complaining over 10 little dollars. Yall spend $20-$50 on fortnite and cod bundles but cant spend chump change 10 bucks to play a game. Yall gamers these days are backwards

  • @quadro1337
    @quadro1337 Год назад +1

    Predecessor is cool and smooth but gameplay choices of overprime is better for me. I hate this small map i predecessor, og map(similar) from paragon and ability to sprint won for me. Predecessor is like Paragon after those changes i didn't liked in the main release, Overprime is the OG paragon mechanics that's a win for me.

  • @TheMelloMunsta5
    @TheMelloMunsta5 Год назад +1

    In playing whichever is free lol…it’s looking like Overprime for me

    • @acybercena89
      @acybercena89 Год назад +1

      Predecessor will be free after the early access. But the lowest EA price is 10 dollars

  • @Warden474
    @Warden474 Год назад +2

    I'm so fascinated because it seems this rivalry is very tribal, and stemming mostly from OG Paragon players (which I was not). Court of public opinion seems to sway towards Predecessor but from what I've read and seen its mostly due to the fact that Pred is more closely aligned to what Paragon used to be? Ironically I played both in testing previously and thoroughly enjoyed Paragon The Overprime so much more.

    • @klarpkant
      @klarpkant Год назад

      I got that feeling as well when playing both games. I definitely get the argument of feel>look but to be honest I really enjoy the feel and flow of both games but definitely like the UI items etc. of Overprime more. I didn’t play a lot of old paragon so I’m judging them in a vacuum based on each games own merits but I think I lean slightly towards Overprime more. Also the tribal nature of the argument is a bit weird for me to watch. People should play the game they prefer and not shit on the other side. It’s harmful to both games for literally no reason

  • @KaiserNightcoreMusic
    @KaiserNightcoreMusic Год назад +4

    i do believe The Overprime devs wanted to make more like a team-fight based game than the traditional moba formula, and predecessor is a boosted version of OG paragon.

    • @refloxi5290
      @refloxi5290 Год назад +1

      Dont know if you played moba´s at all but it is teamplay that makes wins

    • @quadro1337
      @quadro1337 Год назад

      they dont have legacy map why everyone says its og paragon, og paragon for me is a legacy map + travel mode + characters from paragon with all their abilities. In Predecessors not every hero has the same abilities like in OG Paragon i.e. Dekker or Howitzer differs from their original versions. This bugs me too much to pick Predecessor over Overprime.

  • @izanagisoh1883
    @izanagisoh1883 Год назад

    Fans of the original paragon are going to favour predecessor, but the new bandwagoners are gonna jump on overprime because its more visually pleasing and faster paced more deathmatch style not much strategy gameplay

  • @Luizarpex22
    @Luizarpex22 Год назад +1

    Will nobody talk about the old Deck system?

    • @KrashyPKMN
      @KrashyPKMN  Год назад

      So from my pov I never really played Paragon so I'm very unfamiliar with the old card system, sorry :(

    • @mokokoandy9029
      @mokokoandy9029 Год назад

      the card system came at the very end of paragons life and most people hated it. i loved it personally but w.e

  • @GulaschxD
    @GulaschxD Год назад +1

    dont know if its just me, but pred just felt extremly clunky and unresponsive to me, overall gameplay on op just feels way better for me, but in the open beta a huge downside was the balancing tbh

    • @nchmusic99
      @nchmusic99 Год назад +1

      So is it worth the money ?

    • @GulaschxD
      @GulaschxD Год назад +1

      @@nchmusic99 in Steam its only 10€ i think, Just try it, the Game is not bad, i Just played both and for me personally OP is the one, you can refund the Game on Steam If its Not yours and for 10€ i think No one can complain. Pred cant bei Bad If there are so many people praising ist, so i guess it really comes down in what U like or dislike, Just try it out

    • @nchmusic99
      @nchmusic99 Год назад +1

      @Lennard Reich nice , but I am not sure should I get the legendary bundle or just get the original version 🤔

  • @owy99
    @owy99 Год назад

    Predecessor was better then overprime half a year ago… just try it out now

  • @aznpanda510x
    @aznpanda510x Год назад

    Would be nice if they all work together and make the TRue paragon game. Item base no card bullshit

  • @VexFord
    @VexFord Год назад

    Bro he played the game like 7 months ago lol

  • @vkhaotikv3647
    @vkhaotikv3647 Год назад

    it sounds like to me you just dont like prime at all it was basically all negative lol

  • @headcoald2516
    @headcoald2516 Год назад +1

    its literally just a video of him saying all the things he doesnt like from overprime lol

  • @Gilford423
    @Gilford423 Год назад

    I personally will play both, I don't see why people can't just play 2 games, it will be similar to changing game modes, except you'll have to change games. It takes probably an extra minute to make the change. lol

    • @MrWashed_
      @MrWashed_ Год назад +1

      Playing 2 Mobas is just too much time

    • @gendengraven5049
      @gendengraven5049 Год назад +1

      Playerbase, splitting player base is an issue.. thats why some game choose matchmaking design carefully to not split playerbase within its own game. Playerbase has big role in matchmaking based game

    • @magickmeat8763
      @magickmeat8763 Год назад

      Skins and characters; money. People don't want to have to buy the same character more than once just cause its split in two games attempting a revival. Or skins, I don't want to get a skin for my Grux in Overprime, then be stuck with the default when I feel like playing Predecessor. Splitting the playerbase is the other main one. There's a bunch of extremely important reasons both to the playerbase as well as to the developers.

    • @dominiquesmith6745
      @dominiquesmith6745 Год назад

      @@MrWashed_ poor excuse i play league and dota and smite along with playing multiple MMOs

    • @MrWashed_
      @MrWashed_ Год назад +1

      @@dominiquesmith6745 not a poor excuse, that’s nice that you have hours upon hours to
      Play multiple slow paced games not everyone has time like that.

  • @B_Kerson
    @B_Kerson Год назад +1

    Predecessor

  • @ezpz4659
    @ezpz4659 Год назад

    PRED EA IN 1 HOUR!

  • @anonymous-op5zr
    @anonymous-op5zr 3 месяца назад

    rip paragon the overprime theyre shutting it down

  • @chungbunger7331
    @chungbunger7331 Год назад

    I've been playing pred recently now it's in early access an it honestly feels worse that it was in the betas, the new hud with only one active item feels trash, items dont really make much sense and the icons are genuinely upsetting. I know its early access and that isnt their priority but some items are so boring. It feels like the player isnt supposed to be thinking about their items which I hate in a moba, e.g. all of the cc cleanse items are automatically used at 40% hp which makes no sense and has literally no skill expression.
    TLDR: Items in predecessor dont feel impactful other than being a ball of stats and almost every item is bland and boring.

    • @chungbunger7331
      @chungbunger7331 Год назад

      Also from my experience, teamfights feel terrible in predecessor, if any fight sprawls out into the tiny corridors of the jungle then it's incredibly difficult to tell what is happening with half the cast being able to push you around and knock you into the air it can be hard to tell even how many people are in a fight without the minimap

  • @surfer777
    @surfer777 Год назад +2

    I have 0 "Zero" idea where this Overprime's lack of smoothness comes from. I have 3070 gpu and 12th get Intel cpu. The game was running on the highest settings. And the first thing I was actually surprised by was how smooth it felt. Everything was responsive. That's not to say Predecessor is less or more smooth. A direct comparison will tell. But i dunno where this point comes about Overprime.
    And I actually liked sprint mod, it does bring more dynamic and strategy into the game. If anything I hate feeling slow in this Paragon remakes. As for the vision, seeing the bushes in action, definitely loving this element. It both conceals the enemy but also does not limit the vision. Walls in Predecessor is a completely different feel. I guess it comes to personal preferences. In the end Overprime for me became as good as Predecessor to say the least. I'll see who does beter along the way.

    • @wanzmejuez
      @wanzmejuez Год назад

      Paid Review bro, that why..

    • @surfer777
      @surfer777 Год назад

      @@wanzmejuez well, the reviewer (I do not know this channel, I just stumbled upon it) does seem to throw all the points in favor of Predecessor. Maybe he just likes it so much. But some of them are a bit weird for me personally and I can't see the objective reasoning behind it. In my case, I will play both games, I love Paragon, this is the only moba I actually like. But so far Overprime seems a bit more interesting with the changes they introduced.

    • @justenough215
      @justenough215 Год назад

      Melee characters felt less smooth to me

    • @k0zar
      @k0zar Год назад +1

      Overprime is super clunky it did feel smoth at all and it has a lot if bugs. Last years predecessor test was better gameplay wise

    • @acybercena89
      @acybercena89 Год назад

      Overprime is not running well for all configs because lacks optimization, and many people complain about the blurry graphics because they don't know that you not only have to turn down motion blur but also anti aliasing quite a bit to make it look more clear. Atm I'd play a Paragon that is polished like predecessor and has everythink else from overprime aha.

  • @jradjj2988
    @jradjj2988 Год назад +1

    From what I watched predecessor looks much more polished and balanced vs over prime which looked very spotty and not as polished.

  • @Chadzilla600
    @Chadzilla600 Год назад

    predecessor paid and have no SA server , overprime free and has SA server.

  • @hymnalplays9112
    @hymnalplays9112 Год назад +1

    I heard a comparison previously that I really liked. Overprime is like Dota while Predecessor is like League. I think that about sums up the differences in a nice, easily digestible statement.

    • @Husslehoff
      @Husslehoff Год назад +2

      Weird, I see it backwards from this lol.

    • @MMMHOTCHEEZE
      @MMMHOTCHEEZE Год назад +2

      @@Husslehoff yeah, Overprime even copied Rift Herald.

    • @uglyboi2735
      @uglyboi2735 Год назад +1

      It's the other way around. OP is very much like League more so than Pred in fact League players seem to be more familiar with it than players that play Dota2.

  • @David-mj6ic
    @David-mj6ic Год назад

    This is 100% biased ,which can be fine if done well but it is not. When you compare elements of the game, you haven't even described the feature yet that you make it sound bad for Overprime. You set the tone to "bad' before even describing it. Predecessor is defenitely more optimized and less laggy, but there are some neat and well polished mechanics in both games.

  • @turbo6741
    @turbo6741 Год назад

    Pred>over

  • @Pani_Missy
    @Pani_Missy Год назад

    Hold on a sec, we have TWO Paragon remakes??? What? Why?! I've never heard of such a thing in my life! 😲

    • @araccoonstolemyradiator
      @araccoonstolemyradiator Год назад

      Theres actually another called Fault, although it's servers went down recently and there hasn't been much going on with it. I guess lots of people wanted to remake paragon.

    • @D1I.
      @D1I. Год назад +1

      @@araccoonstolemyradiator Did they kill Fault already? 😂

    • @araccoonstolemyradiator
      @araccoonstolemyradiator Год назад

      @@D1I. I'm not sure, but I haven't heard much about it in the past few months compared to how much I used to hear besides the servers being dead.

    • @D1I.
      @D1I. Год назад

      @@araccoonstolemyradiator I looked it up and yes… they shut down the servers on Nov. 1st.

    • @acybercena89
      @acybercena89 Год назад +1

      Because noone told you, and also because they do zero marketing and expect people to somehow find out about the game lol

  • @Sacrilegegg
    @Sacrilegegg Год назад +10

    Great breakdown of both remakes! Overprime seems a lot closer to the original Paragon, which is great for those who miss it but... Paragon failed for a reason. I think Predecessor's more traditional MOBA styling is the way to go.

    • @NumbersLevin.
      @NumbersLevin. Год назад +8

      You mean Predecessor seems a lot closer to the Original ?

    • @glennmerrill88ify
      @glennmerrill88ify Год назад +2

      @@NumbersLevin. He said Overprime did 🙂, predecessor is a half finished game that is missing half the features Overprime has.

    • @NumbersLevin.
      @NumbersLevin. Год назад +4

      @@glennmerrill88ify But Overprime is a different Game to the original Paragon.

    • @muglokdecrepitus1301
      @muglokdecrepitus1301 Год назад +7

      Overprime just is similar to original paragon in the map art style and the sprint mode, the rest is completely the opposite.
      Really I don't understand what you all smoke to say that Overprime seems closer to original Paragon when in gameplay are 2 opposite things, Original Paragon being slow calm and strategic and Overprime being fast, frenetic, and less strategic and more fight centered.
      You should go to see a original Paragon gameplay and you will see that compared with Overprime they look that they move in slow motion.
      Overprime is more similar to V44 Paragon

    • @DigitalTX
      @DigitalTX Год назад +5

      paragon was getting more and more players the game was closed cause epic condensed all dev teams into fortnite

  • @lessa192
    @lessa192 Год назад +2

    I personally like OverPrime much more because Predecessor seems too slow to me. (And Predecessor UI is awful.)
    One thing I would like fixed for OverPrime is the blur, though.
    Also, Predecessor is a too much normal MOBA. Guys, Paragon failed yes, but it wasn't an extremely big fail as you all think or saying lol.
    Epic just pulled the plugs pretty quickly.

    • @izanagisoh1883
      @izanagisoh1883 Год назад +1

      Paragon didn't fail, fortnite happened and they didn't have time for paragon with the unexpected sudden growing success of fortnite.

    • @lessa192
      @lessa192 Год назад

      @@izanagisoh1883 still a little fail. But regardless as I said, that wasn't a big one, Epic just pulled the plugs too quickly.

  • @D1I.
    @D1I. Год назад

    I don't like the bushes

  • @ProgTechDethcore
    @ProgTechDethcore Год назад +2

    Pred looking pretty old, and bland in pace to the game people will get bored fast. Making people pay to play Early access with no ranked, battle pass, or store is a bad move. The bushes, portals, and sprint mode make Overprime more fun in the sense that you have tools to make plays.

  • @TheCrackingSpark
    @TheCrackingSpark Год назад

    Honestly neither team is actually developing anything, they're both simply monetizing Paragon's corpse and I find it really sad. Neither game is what Paragon was, Pred lacks characters and the ui is garbage, while Prime is clunky and apparently scummy with the whole terms of service/spyware. Neither game is implementing a card system, they both went for the generic, uninspired, hard to read moba item shop.
    So yeah, I really hope whoever wins the fight, everybody decides to just play the same game so the playerbase is big enough to have daddy Epic Games love us again, buy the game back or something and resume development (actual development this time), because they're the only people that knows how Paragon should feel.

  • @kurhooni5924
    @kurhooni5924 Год назад +1

    Predecessor just lost my support cause they are raising fons for years and dont deliver a f2p gamelike all other moba

  • @JuanGGcb
    @JuanGGcb Год назад +1

    I think both games are going to be successful like LOL and DOTA , two similiar games but with diferents caracteristics that make them actually diferents ,its really nice we have the choise to make.

  • @al_s93
    @al_s93 Год назад +1

    Why are people so adamant about being a fanboy for pred or OP? Only time will tell and the best will survive.

    • @justenough215
      @justenough215 Год назад

      Good question

    • @k0zar
      @k0zar Год назад

      The one that plays better will survive

    • @yamahkogribbis6212
      @yamahkogribbis6212 Год назад +3

      Most gamers don't have time to play multiple mobas, so I'm here to pick one to start up. Not a fan boy as I haven't played either yet, gonna watch a couple more comparison videos.

  • @abimaelreyes7134
    @abimaelreyes7134 Год назад +1

    My issue with Predecessor is that its feels TOO close to paragon which is fine but after playing Overprime. The jungle monster designs where amazing, skin design where outstanding. Predecessor still has that stale looking jungle of a reskinned fire man or soldiers and bugs, skins arent amazing atm this just gave us basic skins for now. it would be nice if the companies jsut kinda merged to create Paragon remake together. Overprime team focusing on visual design and Predecessor team working on gameplay and balance.

  • @romeprince11
    @romeprince11 Год назад

    Both games will fail
    First person is not the way to go
    Both of these "devs" just copied and pasted paragon
    Even the map is the same on both lol
    The game clearly should have been remade as a top down 3rd person moba like dota or league
    This is not the way
    Smite already clearly is the best first person moba
    Smite is not nearly as popular as either league or dota.... so why make another... first person... moba
    Bad idea

  • @eopatcjo
    @eopatcjo Год назад +1

    Pred dropped today
    It's better