Intro/Outro Music: "Awoke In The Springtime" by Joe Babiak From Joe & Linda's album "Beyond The Places I Know" available exclusively at: joeandlindamusic.com/store/ ⬇⬇ Watch my "TRUMPET COMPARISON" videos here: Part I: Testing 52 Trumpets - ruclips.net/video/ox1uXzMBp4I/видео.html Part II: Testing 15 More - ruclips.net/video/SnusHl1pl6M/видео.html .
Congrats on finding your dream horn! Martin is making incredible trumpets! We are very honored to be one of the few dealers for his world-class (!!!) instruments. Also thanks for helping me learn to properly say his name! Best regards from KC and Happy New year! -T
Hello again Trent & thanks so much! I am completely blown away by my Tumultus and have the utmost respect for Martin and his artisanship. And yea, those German vowels are BRUTAL for us native English speakers; they basically exist in between our vowel sounds.🤦🏽♂️ Happy New Year to you and the rest of the ACB team! 🎺
Hey Joe, thanks for sharing your experiences. Although I am quite certain I will never attain your musicality, I am inspired just enough to forge ahead. As someone who was an adult beginner I identify strongly with what you have said and written about your experiences with this horn, especially versus the Monette. When I started playing at my advanced age I found several instructors, one from the Lyric Opera orchestra, one from the Norhtwestern University Jazz Department staff instructor, and another from the Grant Park Orchestra -- all three from organizations held in great regard not only in Chicago, where I am from, but from all over the country and the world. After two weeks with the Lyric member I was told "trumpet is not for everyone" and ended our lessons. After only ONE session with the Northwestern instructor I was told I was "too old" and would "never learn anything worth playing". The Grant Park person was a bit nicer and said there was simply not enough time in his day to get me to where I wanted to be. All three had me playing on a 5C or 7C mouthpiece. On a lark one day I bought a vintage Blessing from a Goodwill store and it came with a 1.25C mouthpiece. After having both pieces cleaned professionally I tried to play what my instructors told me I was a failure at playing. The 1.25C was, as you said in the comments, life changing. I was instantly able to play every note I was previously unable to play. I could slur and tongue effortlessly. The mouthpiece did indeed change my life. I had the opportunity to play the new Monette Unity mouthpiece and I can tell you with certainty, that mouthpiece instantly elevated my playing to another level. It was the most effortless experience I have ever had playing. I will have to "save up" for that mouthpiece but it was an unreal experience. I did not have the same feeling playing the Monette trumpet, nor any of the Adams, but that is likely because I don't have the skill to make it sing like a pro would. Though I did love the Schagerl... To anyone else struggling in their early years, experiment with different horns and different mouthpieces. This is not a one size fits all event. We all don't wear the same size shoes, use the same bat when playing baseball or cook with the same pans. The moral of the story is to find what fits you and when you find something that works, it will indeed change your life. And I can't wait to try out a Tumultus.
A fellow Chicagoan! I’m so happy you enjoy the videos. I am however super disheartened to learn about the bullshit feedback you received from the teachers you had. You would think members of such respected organizations would have a bit more class and exercise better etiquette. Shame on all 3 of them. Goes to show that a good player can be a shitty teacher. But kudos to you for persevering and also for pursuing a passion such as trumpet later in life. I think that’s awesome and I’m proud of you.😊 I’m thrilled to know you found some gear that changed the game for you! The right gear can really make ALL the difference. It doesn’t matter what others say, you really just have to go and try stuff and see what works and what doesn’t. That being said, and for whatever it’s worth, the Tumultus by Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme is hands down the best playing/sounding horn I personally have ever played. I do hope you can test one! Thank you for your inspiring comment; I wish you the very best with your musical pursuits! - JB
@@JoeBabiak Its inspiring to see you play all the instruments! while I am struggling to drum a basic rythm 😀. Anyway stop by when you are in the neighbourhood, i will do your guitar for free
@@gengar678 - Hey man! I'm sure your drumming is great :-) Yes, will definitely take you up on your offer. I think my guitar is about ready for a tune up. Hope you're well!
Tone/sound is the most important thing. What good is all the technique in the world, if the sound is not great? Mssr. Babiak... You have a great sound - I would think on ANY trumpet!!!!
Hey Joe ~ huge Thanks for the Trumpet Test comparison videos you made. I'm torn between Lotus and Martin Boehme .... you obviously plumped for Martin's Tumultus, and it sounds fab in your hands, but is it way ahead of Adam Rapa's Lotus horns, or is it just your personal preference sir ?
Huge bell. I like this trumpet. I have only one trumpet - I do love it. It's a B&S Challenger II 3137/2 (silver plated with standard leadpipe). I would love to try a trumpet with that special valve design, though. One thing that made my Challenger II play more like grease (I love a free-blowing, less-'slotted' horn) is making my own 'mouthpiece gap eliminator" insert/shim. The gap was previously 0.265 inches - 6.731 mm. Renold Schilke said (back in the day) that NO GAP was ideal. I agree. I now have ZERO gap inside the receiver - from the end of mouthpiece shaft to the venturi of the leadpipe. Way cool (for me, anyway!)
Congrats on the horn! I definitely prefer your sound on the Tumultus versus the Adams A4. And the brushed gold + polished bell came out perfect. Enjoy your new horn!
I’ve been debating on a red brushed brass bell or a vintage patina yellow brass bell….but after showing all my friends your brushed gold horn with the polished bell, they all love yours the best! Hope you don’t mind if I copy your beautiful setup!
@@ericmpena - Ha, I don't mind at all...as long as you engrave "Joe Babiak's Signature Model" on the side of the bell ;-) Yea, it's a BEAUTFIUL finish...and even more impactful when it's actually in your hands!
@@JoeBabiak One thing that happened after watching your videos was me practicing better to optimize my sound, slotting and phrasing on my Bach 37. So now my Bach 37 is shaping to be my own Tumultus horn ....Lol!
Hello and thanks! Runner up trumpets...hmm...from the most recent batch of horns I tested (ruclips.net/video/SnusHl1pl6M/видео.html), I would say some of the Van Laar trumpets (like the brushed gold B5) and the Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme "Sturm & Drang" were also VERY nice. But for me, the "Tumultus" blew all the others away.
Hi Joe, you’re sounding very good on your new gold axe! Congrats! It is obvious that the horn ‘fits’ you well. That is what we all want! - I have the quick release valve caps on my Romeo Adaci Referenz. That is a great feature if you ever need a quick drop of oil while playing … but that will be rare, I’m sure. - Do the MAW valves allow the 3rd slide to extend out to the stop each time you place it on a stand? I had vented valves on an Edwards trumpet that did that … and it could slide out while using a plunger with my left hand. Not an issue when holding the bell parallel to the ground or higher. - I still prefer my Adams A4 LT-S to any other horn to date … it is awesome and a blessing to have so many high quality options available to us. I hope you continue to enjoy your ‘goldie’ for many years to come! She is a beauty!
Hello again Blaine, nice to hear from you :-) Thanks for your warm message. The Tumultus is indeed the right horn for me! I just removed my Yamaha Slide-Stopper and tested my 3rd valve slide; honestly it barely moves when positioned upright. I remember how satisfied you are with your A4 LT-S; I'm happy when others find their "dream horn" too. Stay well and lets keep in touch!
Thank you so much for this video, Joe. I too am looking for a responsive and slotty horn. Unfort the Böhme is out of my price range. Do you have any suggestions for a less expensive horn that also has decent response and slotting?
Greetings! Budget can be limiting factor, but if there’s no time-pressure, I would recommend saving up for one of Martin’s horns. There are many great horns out there to choose from, but none that stood out as much as the Böhme horns, at least for me.
It sounded just perfect and gorgeous together with the music but on its own it's not a baffling beautiful sound. Perhaps this is a very specialized jazz instrument and so it's normal an amateur can't understand.
Hello Rui and thanks for writing! The Tumultus is a beautiful mix of being open & supportive in the upper register. Personally, I am not a screech/lead player, but the high range I do is totally effortless on the Tumultus. I really hope you’ll have the opportunity to play one! All the best :-)
What do you think about the gold brass or red brass bells? Or the XL bells? Did you hear or feel a big difference? And what did you play befor e the Adams A4? Nice video!
Hello again…between gold-brass & red-brass, I would choose gold-brass. It’s a nice inbetwen to yellow & red. My old A4 was a gold-brass bell; no complaints. But my Tumultus is yellow-brass and WAY more responsive, which I attribute partly to the material. Before the A4 I had a Bach 43 with a 43 lead pipe. That horn felt/played like shit compared to the A4 & Tumultus!
@@MultiTrumpetman - In my experience, the Tumultus is the finest trumpet I've ever played. More than any Adams, more than Lotus, and even more than Monette.
Joe, just tried both (Tumultus M and X13) and they are both amazing...very easy-blowing and great intonation, slotting, playability, etc. The big difference to me was the chameleon-like ability of the Edwards for changing color...if you blow soft, it's very warm and airy...loud and it brightens up a lot. Whereas the Tumultus keeps its warm tone throughout. Like yourself, I prefer a warm/darker sound. But, I think if I had to play in a section or in multiple settings, I would pick the X13. As it is, I'm glad I have a Tumultus L on order!
Hey Ken thanks for sharing your experience with the Edwards horn. Some folks might very well base their decision on their playing application. For me personally, the sound and playability are the most important factors. And that’s where I feel the Tumultus “takes the cake.”
@@Kennygrooms - Hello again Ken! For my Tumultus I chose the Marcus Bonna Double Case. Basically like this: www.dillonmusic.com/marcus-bonna-double-trumpet-case-black/?sku=210000008944. My Tumultus fits perfectly within it and I use the other horn space for my mouthpieces & accessories. There are internal foam blocks that you can arrange with velcro however you like, to keep things in place. It's a fairly compact case and I love having the backpack straps too! A bit on the pricey side, but I don't care, need to protect my baby ;-)
In my opinion...This horn (“Tumultus”) blows the Monette out of the water. I actually tested the Monette “LT+” for a second time during this recent search, and it still didn’t feel special to me. The Tumultus is SOOO easy to play and I love the support it provides. It’s also incredibly agile & smooth, allowing for seamless note-transitions. In all my testing, no other horn has come close to the Tumultus...including the 20,000€ Monette.
@@JoeBabiak I can believe that. The Tumultus is one of the most beautiful sounding trumpets I've ever heard. I can only imagine what it must feel like to play.
@@JoeBabiak I hope so too. I'm using an old Conn 18B, but I've been looking at getting another horn. I'm not planning to be a professional musician though, so I can't really justify spending thousands of dollars on it. Maybe a vintage horn, like a Buescher 400 or an Olds Super.
@@timothycurvin7670 - Despite your professional aspirations, you could also look at the investment in a new horn as fuel for your passion. I consider a quality, high end instrument to be a "tool of inspiration." Perfect example, my Tumultus; I always want to play it and it's hard to put it down. No exaggeration. To me, that completely justifies spending thousands of dollars (one time) for ongoing inspiration that lasts many many years. But of course, to each their own :-)
Intro/Outro Music:
"Awoke In The Springtime" by Joe Babiak
From Joe & Linda's album "Beyond The Places I Know" available exclusively at: joeandlindamusic.com/store/
⬇⬇
Watch my "TRUMPET COMPARISON" videos here:
Part I: Testing 52 Trumpets - ruclips.net/video/ox1uXzMBp4I/видео.html
Part II: Testing 15 More - ruclips.net/video/SnusHl1pl6M/видео.html
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Bellissima!
@@damianodami7582 - Grazie mille ;-)
Congrats on finding your dream horn! Martin is making incredible trumpets! We are very honored to be one of the few dealers for his world-class (!!!) instruments. Also thanks for helping me learn to properly say his name! Best regards from KC and Happy New year! -T
Hello again Trent & thanks so much! I am completely blown away by my Tumultus and have the utmost respect for Martin and his artisanship. And yea, those German vowels are BRUTAL for us native English speakers; they basically exist in between our vowel sounds.🤦🏽♂️ Happy New Year to you and the rest of the ACB team! 🎺
Sounds super smooth...a sunshine singing trumpet 🌞
100% !
Hey Joe, thanks for sharing your experiences. Although I am quite certain I will never attain your musicality, I am inspired just enough to forge ahead.
As someone who was an adult beginner I identify strongly with what you have said and written about your experiences with this horn, especially versus the Monette. When I started playing at my advanced age I found several instructors, one from the Lyric Opera orchestra, one from the Norhtwestern University Jazz Department staff instructor, and another from the Grant Park Orchestra -- all three from organizations held in great regard not only in Chicago, where I am from, but from all over the country and the world.
After two weeks with the Lyric member I was told "trumpet is not for everyone" and ended our lessons. After only ONE session with the Northwestern instructor I was told I was "too old" and would "never learn anything worth playing". The Grant Park person was a bit nicer and said there was simply not enough time in his day to get me to where I wanted to be.
All three had me playing on a 5C or 7C mouthpiece. On a lark one day I bought a vintage Blessing from a Goodwill store and it came with a 1.25C mouthpiece. After having both pieces cleaned professionally I tried to play what my instructors told me I was a failure at playing.
The 1.25C was, as you said in the comments, life changing. I was instantly able to play every note I was previously unable to play. I could slur and tongue effortlessly. The mouthpiece did indeed change my life.
I had the opportunity to play the new Monette Unity mouthpiece and I can tell you with certainty, that mouthpiece instantly elevated my playing to another level. It was the most effortless experience I have ever had playing. I will have to "save up" for that mouthpiece but it was an unreal experience. I did not have the same feeling playing the Monette trumpet, nor any of the Adams, but that is likely because I don't have the skill to make it sing like a pro would. Though I did love the Schagerl...
To anyone else struggling in their early years, experiment with different horns and different mouthpieces. This is not a one size fits all event. We all don't wear the same size shoes, use the same bat when playing baseball or cook with the same pans.
The moral of the story is to find what fits you and when you find something that works, it will indeed change your life.
And I can't wait to try out a Tumultus.
A fellow Chicagoan!
I’m so happy you enjoy the videos. I am however super disheartened to learn about the bullshit feedback you received from the teachers you had. You would think members of such respected organizations would have a bit more class and exercise better etiquette. Shame on all 3 of them. Goes to show that a good player can be a shitty teacher. But kudos to you for persevering and also for pursuing a passion such as trumpet later in life. I think that’s awesome and I’m proud of you.😊
I’m thrilled to know you found some gear that changed the game for you! The right gear can really make ALL the difference. It doesn’t matter what others say, you really just have to go and try stuff and see what works and what doesn’t.
That being said, and for whatever it’s worth, the Tumultus by Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme is hands down the best playing/sounding horn I personally have ever played. I do hope you can test one! Thank you for your inspiring comment; I wish you the very best with your musical pursuits! - JB
Beautiful looking and sounding horn, Joe. Congratulations on find "the one" that really speaks and responds to you the way that you want/need it to.
Thank Sean...yea, I feel grateful to have come across Martin and his unparalleled instruments! Cheers man :-)
thats great Joe!! Good to see you so excited with this new instrument
Thanks man...yea, it's difficult to put it down. So inspiring!
@@JoeBabiak Its inspiring to see you play all the instruments! while I am struggling to drum a basic rythm 😀. Anyway stop by when you are in the neighbourhood, i will do your guitar for free
@@gengar678 - Hey man! I'm sure your drumming is great :-) Yes, will definitely take you up on your offer. I think my guitar is about ready for a tune up. Hope you're well!
Yep thats the sound, perfect for jazz.
Thanks man. Yea, I love it!
Wow, beautiful horn… Congrats, man!
Thank you very much!
Great video. So appreciated the trumpet comparison videos, as well. Waiting for the Joe Babiak jazz trumpet lessons series now!
Thanks so much... happy you enjoyed them! Very appreciated. All the best!
Tone/sound is the most important thing. What good is all the technique in the world, if the sound is not great?
Mssr. Babiak... You have a great sound - I would think on ANY trumpet!!!!
Much appreciated man...all the best!
Hey Joe ~ huge Thanks for the Trumpet Test comparison videos you made. I'm torn between Lotus and Martin Boehme .... you obviously plumped for Martin's Tumultus, and it sounds fab in your hands, but is it way ahead of Adam Rapa's Lotus horns, or is it just your personal preference sir ?
Huge bell. I like this trumpet.
I have only one trumpet - I do love it. It's a B&S Challenger II 3137/2 (silver plated with standard leadpipe).
I would love to try a trumpet with that special valve design, though.
One thing that made my Challenger II play more like grease (I love a free-blowing, less-'slotted' horn) is making my own 'mouthpiece gap eliminator" insert/shim.
The gap was previously 0.265 inches - 6.731 mm. Renold Schilke said (back in the day) that NO GAP was ideal. I agree.
I now have ZERO gap inside the receiver - from the end of mouthpiece shaft to the venturi of the leadpipe. Way cool (for me, anyway!)
Glad you found the right adjustments that work for you! All the best!
Congrats on the horn! I definitely prefer your sound on the Tumultus versus the Adams A4. And the brushed gold + polished bell came out perfect. Enjoy your new horn!
Thanks man! Yea, I'm absolutely in love with my Tumultus. It's such a wonderful experience to play this thing :-)
I’ve been debating on a red brushed brass bell or a vintage patina yellow brass bell….but after showing all my friends your brushed gold horn with the polished bell, they all love yours the best!
Hope you don’t mind if I copy your beautiful setup!
@@ericmpena - Ha, I don't mind at all...as long as you engrave "Joe Babiak's Signature Model" on the side of the bell ;-)
Yea, it's a BEAUTFIUL finish...and even more impactful when it's actually in your hands!
Hey congratulations on your new horn. Looks and sounds great. Have fun bro.
Much thanks! 👍🏽
@@JoeBabiak One thing that happened after watching your videos was me practicing better to optimize my sound, slotting and phrasing on my Bach 37. So now my Bach 37 is shaping to be my own Tumultus horn ....Lol!
@@selpingos - How awesome! I'm happy to know these videos have inspired you in some way. All the best :-)
Very nice Joe! You sound great on your new horn.
Thank you kindly, Jim! 😊
Sounds amazing. What were the runner up trumpets “of honorable mention” out of curiosity
Hello and thanks!
Runner up trumpets...hmm...from the most recent batch of horns I tested (ruclips.net/video/SnusHl1pl6M/видео.html), I would say some of the Van Laar trumpets (like the brushed gold B5) and the Klangwerkstatt Martin Böhme "Sturm & Drang" were also VERY nice. But for me, the "Tumultus" blew all the others away.
Hi Joe, you’re sounding very good on your new gold axe! Congrats! It is obvious that the horn ‘fits’ you well. That is what we all want!
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I have the quick release valve caps on my Romeo Adaci Referenz. That is a great feature if you ever need a quick drop of oil while playing … but that will be rare, I’m sure.
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Do the MAW valves allow the 3rd slide to extend out to the stop each time you place it on a stand? I had vented valves on an Edwards trumpet that did that … and it could slide out while using a plunger with my left hand. Not an issue when holding the bell parallel to the ground or higher.
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I still prefer my Adams A4 LT-S to any other horn to date … it is awesome and a blessing to have so many high quality options available to us. I hope you continue to enjoy your ‘goldie’ for many years to come! She is a beauty!
Hello again Blaine, nice to hear from you :-)
Thanks for your warm message. The Tumultus is indeed the right horn for me!
I just removed my Yamaha Slide-Stopper and tested my 3rd valve slide; honestly it barely moves when positioned upright.
I remember how satisfied you are with your A4 LT-S; I'm happy when others find their "dream horn" too. Stay well and lets keep in touch!
AMAZING!!!
Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video, Joe. I too am looking for a responsive and slotty horn. Unfort the Böhme is out of my price range. Do you have any suggestions for a less expensive horn that also has decent response and slotting?
Greetings! Budget can be limiting factor, but if there’s no time-pressure, I would recommend saving up for one of Martin’s horns. There are many great horns out there to choose from, but none that stood out as much as the Böhme horns, at least for me.
Karl Hammond makes great mouthpieces. I switched over to a 4mlh recently from lotus.. Your horn looks and sounds great.
Thank you kindly!
beautiful sounding horn
Absolutely! The finest horn I've ever owned!
@@JoeBabiak I felt that way in 1983 playing a the Kansul F Besson Meha sadly it was 3x the price of a Bach *72
That’s cool✌️
Much thanks!
It sounded just perfect and gorgeous together with the music but on its own it's not a baffling beautiful sound. Perhaps this is a very specialized jazz instrument and so it's normal an amateur can't understand.
Perhaps.
It’s called eq
@@tomchojnowski9215 - Thanks for sharing your profound wisdom
Hi Joe, i'm from Azores, and it's really hard here to have the chance of trying those horns. How is the tumultuous in the upper region?
Hello Rui and thanks for writing! The Tumultus is a beautiful mix of being open & supportive in the upper register. Personally, I am not a screech/lead player, but the high range I do is totally effortless on the Tumultus. I really hope you’ll have the opportunity to play one! All the best :-)
What do you think about the gold brass or red brass bells? Or the XL bells? Did you hear or feel a big difference? And what did you play befor e the Adams A4? Nice video!
Hello again…between gold-brass & red-brass, I would choose gold-brass. It’s a nice inbetwen to yellow & red. My old A4 was a gold-brass bell; no complaints. But my Tumultus is yellow-brass and WAY more responsive, which I attribute partly to the material. Before the A4 I had a Bach 43 with a 43 lead pipe. That horn felt/played like shit compared to the A4 & Tumultus!
What about Adams A2?
Is Tumultus far better or?
@@MultiTrumpetman - In my experience, the Tumultus is the finest trumpet I've ever played. More than any Adams, more than Lotus, and even more than Monette.
Where can you buy this trumpet in US?
Two places:
1) www.jlandressbrass.com
2) austincustombrass.biz
Joe, I forgot...did you try the Edwards X-13? Thanks.
Hey Ken, I have not played the Edwards X13 though I’m quite familiar with it. It’s one of those horns that I’ve only heard good things about. Cheers!
Joe, just tried both (Tumultus M and X13) and they are both amazing...very easy-blowing and great intonation, slotting, playability, etc. The big difference to me was the chameleon-like ability of the Edwards for changing color...if you blow soft, it's very warm and airy...loud and it brightens up a lot. Whereas the Tumultus keeps its warm tone throughout. Like yourself, I prefer a warm/darker sound. But, I think if I had to play in a section or in multiple settings, I would pick the X13. As it is, I'm glad I have a Tumultus L on order!
Hey Ken thanks for sharing your experience with the Edwards horn. Some folks might very well base their decision on their playing application. For me personally, the sound and playability are the most important factors. And that’s where I feel the Tumultus “takes the cake.”
@@JoeBabiak What case do you use for the Tumultus? Thanks
@@Kennygrooms - Hello again Ken! For my Tumultus I chose the Marcus Bonna Double Case. Basically like this: www.dillonmusic.com/marcus-bonna-double-trumpet-case-black/?sku=210000008944.
My Tumultus fits perfectly within it and I use the other horn space for my mouthpieces & accessories. There are internal foam blocks that you can arrange with velcro however you like, to keep things in place. It's a fairly compact case and I love having the backpack straps too! A bit on the pricey side, but I don't care, need to protect my baby ;-)
How does this horn feel/play compared to the Monette you showed in the first video?
In my opinion...This horn (“Tumultus”) blows the Monette out of the water. I actually tested the Monette “LT+” for a second time during this recent search, and it still didn’t feel special to me. The Tumultus is SOOO easy to play and I love the support it provides. It’s also incredibly agile & smooth, allowing for seamless note-transitions. In all my testing, no other horn has come close to the Tumultus...including the 20,000€ Monette.
@@JoeBabiak I can believe that. The Tumultus is one of the most beautiful sounding trumpets I've ever heard. I can only imagine what it must feel like to play.
@@timothycurvin7670 - In all honesty, my first notes on the Tumultus was a life changing moment for me. I hope you can test one for yourself :-)
@@JoeBabiak I hope so too. I'm using an old Conn 18B, but I've been looking at getting another horn. I'm not planning to be a professional musician though, so I can't really justify spending thousands of dollars on it. Maybe a vintage horn, like a Buescher 400 or an Olds Super.
@@timothycurvin7670 - Despite your professional aspirations, you could also look at the investment in a new horn as fuel for your passion. I consider a quality, high end instrument to be a "tool of inspiration." Perfect example, my Tumultus; I always want to play it and it's hard to put it down. No exaggeration. To me, that completely justifies spending thousands of dollars (one time) for ongoing inspiration that lasts many many years. But of course, to each their own :-)
what’s the song/do you have the sheet music for the sample?
The Song info is listed at 8:04 in the video. No sheet music at this time.
This one have a large bore or medium?
Hello. Martin refers to the bore size as “ML Plus” at 11.7mm.
How much?
Price list can be found on the website: klangwerkstatt-boehme.de/en/. Cheers!
Boa noite
Qual o valor desse instrumento ou seja o valor desa máquina
Check the website for the price list:
klangwerkstatt-boehme.de/en/pricelist/