From a nearby town to where this took place. The word of what happened is, the wife left with the kids about 3-4 weeks prior to the event, apparently the sheriff was abusive. The Judge was suspected by the sheriff of helping the wife, filing papers, judge was in contact with them etc. Sheriffs wife and oldest daughter would not return his calls and he had no idea where they had gone. He confronted the judge over lunch, went back to the chambers and attempted to call his wife and daughter from his (sheriffs) phone and they did not answer. He took the Judges phone and called his daughters number and the daughter then answered. The Sheriff hung up and the crime took place. True or not, this is what people who know the sheriffs family and the Judges have passed along the streets in a small town. Just the messenger here, so if it turns out to not be true, my apologies up front.
I could see this. On court TV they just said the sheriff made the statement “they are trying to kidnap my wife and kid” after the shooting. And I wondered if the wife was leaving him and the judge was somehow involved.
I absolutely believe this scenario. What baffles me, is the gonfund me set up for the family utilizing a pic with the sheriff, wife and daughter in it. The GFM has curious language staing the daughter was not SA and don't want people donating under the assumption she was AND the money can not be used for sheriff's defense per GFM rules so they are requesting funds for family Why would they utilize that particular picture for a GFM for sheriff's wife and daughter?
@@MoleyRussellswart2022 I honestly have no idea. Like I said, I don't know the players involved, I just live a town or 2 away and know a few people who know a few people. In any case its a sad, sad story for both families involved.
I grew up near that area. I've heard reporters describe it as "Mayberry". That is far from the truth. There's been arrests of those in the judicial system arrested in the past in these small "Mayberry" towns. Including rx trafficking by a sheriff. Sx trafficking or assault would not surprise me. I, myself, was sx assaulted by a deputy in a larger town. There are good ppl in every profession. But there are also very, very bad ppl in them. The profession doesn't change the essence of a human.
So what’s interesting is that RUclips creator JD Delay made a video explaining he has a source that told him why the sheriff did this. Apparently the judge was as*aulting the sheriff’s daughter and allegedly told the sheriff “I’m a judge and I’m untouchable.” Or something like that. So now that you’ve said that, I think it strengthens JD Delays video. I’m also incredibly sorry for what you’ve been through. Thank you for speaking out.
@@psychologynerd0423there’s a lawsuit that the sheriff was SA defendants in drug court in the judges chambers and has been deposed in that lawsuit 3 days prior.
I live in KY, and I am so sick of people calling us hicks, Mayberry, treating us as lower class people. We are no different than any other state. Good, bad and the ugly. Even Peter said, Oh this is KY, let me slow the video down, the accents.
Bro I have been seeing so many channels purely speculating and running with the rumors. Finally someone breaking down the information that we know and the legal system etc. Glad you are covering this story. Also as someone born and raised in KY I fully expect that this case will uncover a lot of corruption but I am not on the speculation train. I wanna know what happened
@@lilbekah06 Same. I want to know what actually happened with the daughter. Was it a consensual relationship or was the daughter giving information to the judge against the sheriff. I have heard both rumors but dont know if either is true.
I live in the area where this happened and I’m so glad that you’re not like so many other channels all they do is spread rumors and talk about things that know nothing about ! Thank you for being a class act Peter .
so the detective on the Stan already admitted the daughter's phone number was in the judge's phone. I don't care how good a friend you are; you do not have your friend's daughter's number in your phone, period and that's not speculation that's a fact. no man will throw his life away like that except for wife, children, or money so which the three is it?
@@Jblaze024really, haven’t we seen so many people with guns throwing their lives away for stupid reasons, other than what you cited? Also, how does that justify killing someone?
@@Asidebar-my guess is if the Sheriff has any skeletons in his closet he will ask for a plea deal as opposed to going through with a trial that will expose everything. If the judge has skeletons, my guess is the Defendant will absolutely want a trial because everything will be exposed.
@@rick-grimI think even if the sheriff wants a plea deal I think the prosecution won’t give him one. The severity of this case and the direct ties to the justice system makes me think they will try to hit him with the maximum charges and time possible. I can’t see the defense/sheriff taking it lying down. Unless he pleads guilty to 1st degree to hide something for his family, he’s got nothing to lose. He’s facing life in prison as a former cop…his future is grim.
@@BigDyslexicEnergy I am definitely waiting for all the evidence (especially electronic data). It is interesting to me that there was a video in the judges quarters. The curious side of me wonders “why” that is necessary. If the rumors about the sheriff daughter are valid, I bet he will take his chances on a jury trial!
This makes me sad. For a judge to be sitting in chambers, totally helpless behind his desk and gets shot to death by the one person whose job in the courthouse is to protect him. Freaking ridiculous.
Don't presume to know someone you don't. There is corruption everywhere in those hills. FBI is currently looking into fraud of ReHab.....that the JUDGE was in charge of. Wait til all the evidence comes in. Like he said both Judge and Sheriff are presumed INNOCENCE
@@Great_Kate the sherrif is a defendant in a lawsuit for one of his former deputies grape a woman numerous times inside those judges chambers. There is something going on and we don't know everything yet
@@QargZer You know what's going on here? Lots of speculation. These DV claims against the Sheriff are new rumors. I watched the hearing today. So far, the edited video the prosecution presented is sus. The judge is sus too. This Sheriff just didn't lose it for no reason. The judge attempting to "hide" the Sheriff's wife and daughter doesn't seem plausible at this point. Where's the evidence of this?
Only hearsay but someone said judge had issued a protective order for the wife/daughter because something (violence?) was going on at home. Hence, shooter saying they were being kidnapped (kept away from him). But who knows. It's a mess.
@@Great_Kate an abusive person would claim it's kidnap if they kept them from him. But we don't know what's going on yet. There is so much going on but we know so little. The sheriff is a defendant in a lawsuit about one of his former deputies grape a woman inside those judges chambers. Something weird was going on in that area
@@Great_Kate oh I agree. But in his view it was kidnapping his family (he couldn't be with them). In all the rumors, I've heard nothing about an actual planned kidnapping. 🤷🏻♀️
This case is in my hometown and I know both of these men quite personally. Thanks for covering this case man. It means more than you know. God bless ✌️🖤
I felt so bad for that woman crying in the gallery. This just happened to, so it's all so fresh. May have been the first time she saw it. That video was horrible. When he was going to walk out, he stopped when he noticed the judge was still moving. Bent down shot the judge again. It's just horrible.
Thank you Peter for discussing this case with all of us! 💗 I always value your insight and expertise on these cases. Thank you for always providing us with your unbiased coverage. I appreciate it immensely.
It sounds like the defense attorney is trying to nudge the investigator to get the daughter’s phone and make sure the apps are checked on the judge’s phone. Definitely agree the defense is outlining a picture of what may have led to this 😞
The defense threw a "Hail Mary" trying to get a lesser charge. They're getting all of the prosecution's evidence, including what's on the phone, during the discovery phase, before the actual trial. If anything is withheld, by trial, we might see another fiasco, like the Alec Baldwin case !
The “trying to kidnap my wife and kid” comment really makes me wonder if wife/daughter were about to expose DV or a corruption scandal and were working with the judge because they couldn’t trust the other officers.
@@Noneyun Fear of retaliation. Do you know how much power a county sheriffs department has? Try telling a cop no and if you live, they will remind you of absolute power.
I wondered this as a possibility too, at the moment we just don't know. Personally I'll wait for the evidence to come out. That video was damning though, in my not a lawyer opinion him chasing the judge around the table says 1st degree to me, not the lesser charges
OMG! I was a paralegal for 40 years, and the way this Trooper is answering these questions is so evasive and I would get so angry but I had to not show it to anyone in the Courtroom!
Yes he was constantly trying to pivot to hearsay by saying ohh someone told me. Bro hearsay is allowed just answer the goddammit questions. He is a dishonest lead investigator.
This is an interesting one! I wonder what they will find on those phones. Thank you so much for explaining things, Peter. I had many questions in my mind.......and you answered so many of them! I love the way you explain the law for us!!!!
My schedule makes it hard to catch “lives” I so respect and appreciate the manner you present and “withhold” unnecessary, titillating videos to protect others from exposure to unnecessary violence. Your ability to “pause” and reflect on the benefits or negative impact of presentation reflects your integrity to review content and still preserve an environment of learning, not trauma for the sake of ratings or memberships. Class Act Sir.
Me too!! Now I can get ‘just the facts’ in a very straightforward way along with clear explanations of what things mean. Thank you, Mr. LYK!! You rock!!
Thank you for covering this case. Letcher County is where I grew up. I knew Judge Mullins personally. My heart goes out to everyone involved in this situation. Thank you also for not showing the video of Kevin's last moments. I saw it earlier today on another channel and was horrified by what I saw and shocked it was on the feed.
@@davids5006 I reserve judgment upon him and Steins until all of the facts are completely out. For all I know Steins could have a good reason. For all you know, this could have been unjustified. We simply do not know and should not let rumors dictate a trial.
Thank you for not playing the video. I was completely shocked when I originally saw it as I wasn’t expecting it at all. And you are right…. An execution is exactly what happened.
Why does the defense attorney know more then the lead investigator? There are so many cases where the detective goes thru the phone immediately and phone data comes through within a day or two. It doesn't have to be dissected to see a lot of things. Something is going on here that the lead investigator is hiding. Again he can say hearsay right now and refuses to by playing ignorant. I don't get it. They need to bring outside investigators that are impartial. The guy killed the sheriff that's for sure and I believe he's guilty 100% but he's not going to get a fair trial and he will win in an appeal and go free. FIX THIS ISSUE NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
The Sheriff is a domestic abuser. His wife and daughter were trying to get away from him. They couldn't go to the police because he is the police. The daughter went to the Judge for help. The Judge was trying to help them both escape. He set it up. That explains the lunch...it was a distraction to keep the Sheriff busy while the wife and daughter left. The Sheriff discovered this after the lunch. He somehow figured out the Judge was involved(his wife probably told him). He confronted the Judge about it. The Sheriff tried to call both his wife and daughter. they didn't answer. So he demanded the Judge hand over his phone. The Sheriff then used that phone to call his daughter and she answered, which set him off and he killed the Judge. This explains why the Sheriff would say something along the lines of "they are trying to kidnap my wife and daughter." Just wait and see how much of what I just said ends up being true.
This is the theory I'm leaning towards. This is what makes the most sense to me in light of what the Judge's DA brother in law said about him in an interview, the angry, impulsive and desperate actions of the sheriff that seem to point to his character and the kidnap comment. I suspect the Judge was helping the wife and daughter leave him. Anyway, it seems the truth will eventually come out.
Have the State Police taken over the investigation? I hope so; seems appropriate. ...The kidnap comment was totally unexpected! ... Thanks for covering this, Peter! 💙... Shouldn’t the chief investigator have all the information gathered? Shouldn’t he actually interview the prime players himself?
He knows exactly what was said by the 'witnesses' closest to the shooting! There's zero scenario where this wouldn't have been discussed. I find him outrageously disobliging!!
We don’t know details but my first thought was the judge helping the sheriffs wife & daughter escape an abusive situation? Based on sheriff saying “kidnap his wife & daughter”. That’s what came to my mind.
@@davids5006I think it’s a solid hypothesis- an abuser could absolutely frame escape as being kidnapped. That being said, I’m definitely open to other theories. Has there been suspicion of the judge in some way? All we know is that the sheriff killed a man and said something about kidnap (but a phone number doesn’t really tally with kidnapping in the traditional sense)
I agree especially since they addressed the sexual relationship rumors on their gofund me and have said it's all false. Also the gofund me is only for Caroline and her daughter, not to support the sheriff at all.
I am just going to mirror the rest of the comments but I am so glad you are covering this case. FINALLLY someone who will go through everything without bias and give a reasonable explanation to the events unfolding. Love the content.
I live in Kentucky, and I can tell you that the rumors are spreading like wildfire. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victim. Also, with law enforcement, investigators, and the judge who hears this case and with anyone that may have to become part of the jury, if the case goes to trial. I am sure that this case is going to affect all involved given who the victim and perpetrator are.
Do you know if this fact that was shared is true: i saw that in the video surveillance footage that shows the judge and sheriff switching phones @ one point. Have you heard that?
@Luisa-H208 I haven't heard that one. The rumors are flying so fast it's hard to keep up with. I have spent time in West Liberty, it is a quaint tiny town. This has thrown so many Kentuckians into a whirlwind. It's truly hard to believe it's happened and even more heartbreaking that something like this could happen.
Living in KY, I am glad you are covering the case. I think it will actually go to trial because I think the defense wants what he thinks or knows as his truth about the judge to come out. I’ve spoken to some acquaintances from the area about the shooting, and I think there is much more to this case than we know. I think the charges will have to be reduced to manslaughter(murder2) for it to not go to trial.
Thank you Peter for this video. I’m like you I don’t know what’s going on because no one is saying anything. I don’t understand how someone could be that mad to kill someone and spend his life in jail. We will find out soon.
I’m concerned at how easy it was for the investigator to go from “I don’t know” to “I know some”. Just be honest, especially when your case is generally easier than most considering you have video evidence. Too easy to lie and for what?
I heard that the sheriff wife & daughter left him about a month ago. And the judge was trying to help them get away. Apparently, the sheriff called his daughter from his phone and she didn't answer. So he called from judges phone and she answered. Set him off !! Judge did dv cases , he was helping them get away .
I 100% agree with this. It would explain the whole "they are trying to kidnap my wife and daughter" comment he made. That one comment is what really got me thinking about what could possibly be the motive. All this talk about the judge being inappropriate with the daughter could have held weight had it not been for that comment he made.
Thank you for cutting the shooting. People can go elsewhere to watch and come back you for legal analysis. I happened to be watching the hearing live, and it was too much.💔
Just for perspective, because I live in a nearby county, these guys don't just know of ezch other or know each other casually. EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYONE. Theygrew up together, they dated each other's sister or cousins. They go to church together and are probably all related in some distant fashion. There are no secrets in this type of town. Ever.
I’ll wager there are a lot of torn officials currently involved in this matter. Some supportive of one side or the other. Hope it’s possible for the actual truth to come out.
I’ve heard the rumors and I don’t believe them . Also , the sheriffs wife has a Go Fund Me for Attorney fees etc and she specifically points out that this does not have to do with anything inappropriate regarding her daughter and the judge . I believe they were separated . Also, this investigator is being very cautious for obvious reasons .He also doesn’t seem to have gotten most of the evidence the defense is asking about yet. The defense does seem a little “ trite “ 😂 and the investigator seems annoyed
What trial?? He’s going to take a plea deal & we will never know what exactly happened. He’s going to admit he killed him & that’s the end of the story.
I’ve never seen or heard a detective that nervous and stressed at an initial hearing. Stamper is an experienced KSP detective and whatever the non-public facts are at this point, they’ve got him shook.
Late to watch this, but so glad you're covering this case. Have you seen the arraignment video for the sheriff? I feel like that was so weird. A public defender was there with the sheriff in custody before the judge. Prosecutor alleged that that public defender improperly solicited the defendant, the court had not appointed an attorney nor had the defendant taken steps to ask for a public defender. When the judge asked, the sheriff said that he had no lawyer & had not taken any steps to seek representation, the judge felt it unlikely that the sheriff was unable to afford an attorney yet no one objected to that public defender counseling & speaking on behalf of the defendant. Shouldn't that lawyer have been kicked out the second the sheriff basically said I have no lawyer, if not sooner when the prosecutor raised doubts about the propriety of that defender seeking to represent this high-profile client? The arraignment video is like 9 minutes & it just felt so weird to me watching it. That public defender is not at the defendant's table in this hearing, so I just have so many questions about what he was doing at the arraignment.
I am from Kentucky and I have very good friends who live in the town and some who work at that Courthouse and while I do not condone someone shooting someone else I can't understand why if the rumors are true
When he was taken into custody, I was told by one of the other officers there that he made the comment, ‘They’re trying to kidnap my wife and kid,’” he said. Stamper said Stines was “mostly calm” by the time he arrived at the shooting scene. “Basically, all he said was, ‘Treat me fair,’” Stamper said.
Yup he wasn't giving anything up, he kept saying I haven't seen or read something but he knew about it from someone. Hearsay is allowed and the Lead kept trying to pivot to hearsay hoping it would be objected. If this was the actual trial and he behaved this way I'd have discredited and ignored his whole testimony.
@@cfawcett9870 because he was asked do you know this about X He would say I have not seen/examined X The lawyer would ask so you don't know anything about X The officer would say I do know about X and say I was told by someone. He is avoiding the question trying to pivot to hearsay. He needs to say what he knows about X wether it's from any source because hearsay is allowed. Totally dishonesty by the lead investigator.
I worked as a cop for 24 years, 12 of those as the Chief of Police. A line of duty accident left me disabled, and I retrained as a paralegal, my summer internship was with the District Court Judge who's court I had previously worked with for many years. I learned a lot during that internship that I wished I had known as a cop but at any rate I can understand a lot of what is going on in this case, at least I have a feel for it. I think it is way to soon to take a side in this case, we hear the rumors of the judges interaction with the Sheriff's daughter who I understand is 17 years old, and having raised a daughter through those years, I can assure you that a father has a strong bond with his daughter, at least I did, and if I believed someone was making improper moves on her, I would surely have confronted him. Don't think I would have shot him but I don't know all of what is going on in that county, I understand there can be, and often are some strange folk who exercise a lot of illegal power over those folks. Guess we will have to wait till the full investigation is complete
Why in the world would they not take the daughters phone. It was called 2x in the commission of this crime? And why would noone go interview him at the jail, he didnt lawyer up right away. Completely Sus
Pigs aren't treated the same as humans. They are innocent until proven guilty, even when there's video evidence. Us mortals are treated guilty until proven innocent.
1st degree premeditated murder for sure. They went to lunch together. There was no arguing noted by witnesses in the parking lot before they went into the building. There was no arguing in the judge's chambers. It just shows the sheriff pulling out a gun and shooting the judge in cold blood. Sheriff waits until they get into the judge's chambers so no one can stop him and judge can't get anyone to help him. Looks like 1st degree premeditated murder to me. Even if the sheriff was enraged before the encounter; he had time to cool down. If there was an issue with his daughter and the judge that was maybe improper then the judge should be reported. The judge has the right to due process. The sheriff should know this better than anyone. The sheriff performed an execution.
@@susanyaggi6533 Okay, fair enough. Like I'd said, it's all laid out if you ever change your mind. Personally, I'd rather hear of these things sooner, especially if they are backed up later by the lead investor like what just happened today 100%! But then, I am a rather impatient person. I do hate the talking heads who spend hundreds of hours speculating long before a trial ever is set to begin, so I can relate to how you feel. For me, that's a waste of valuable time.
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I am so happy Peter choose this case tonight!!!!
I just read it today
Me too!😊
Chose
@@loriwatkins9002 aw thank you 😊 didn’t notice my error appreciate you pointing it out
@@loriwatkins9002 yes mother
From a nearby town to where this took place. The word of what happened is, the wife left with the kids about 3-4 weeks prior to the event, apparently the sheriff was abusive. The Judge was suspected by the sheriff of helping the wife, filing papers, judge was in contact with them etc. Sheriffs wife and oldest daughter would not return his calls and he had no idea where they had gone. He confronted the judge over lunch, went back to the chambers and attempted to call his wife and daughter from his (sheriffs) phone and they did not answer. He took the Judges phone and called his daughters number and the daughter then answered. The Sheriff hung up and the crime took place.
True or not, this is what people who know the sheriffs family and the Judges have passed along the streets in a small town. Just the messenger here, so if it turns out to not be true, my apologies up front.
I could see this. On court TV they just said the sheriff made the statement “they are trying to kidnap my wife and kid” after the shooting. And I wondered if the wife was leaving him and the judge was somehow involved.
So this abusive man appears to have killed the judge simply because he's jealous for the judge knowing where his family is whilst he doesn't know.
I absolutely believe this scenario. What baffles me, is the gonfund me set up for the family utilizing a pic with the sheriff, wife and daughter in it. The GFM has curious language staing the daughter was not SA and don't want people donating under the assumption she was AND the money can not be used for sheriff's defense per GFM rules so they are requesting funds for family Why would they utilize that particular picture for a GFM for sheriff's wife and daughter?
@@MoleyRussellswart2022 I honestly have no idea. Like I said, I don't know the players involved, I just live a town or 2 away and know a few people who know a few people. In any case its a sad, sad story for both families involved.
Wow this makes sense!
I grew up near that area. I've heard reporters describe it as "Mayberry". That is far from the truth. There's been arrests of those in the judicial system arrested in the past in these small "Mayberry" towns. Including rx trafficking by a sheriff. Sx trafficking or assault would not surprise me. I, myself, was sx assaulted by a deputy in a larger town. There are good ppl in every profession. But there are also very, very bad ppl in them. The profession doesn't change the essence of a human.
So what’s interesting is that RUclips creator JD Delay made a video explaining he has a source that told him why the sheriff did this. Apparently the judge was as*aulting the sheriff’s daughter and allegedly told the sheriff “I’m a judge and I’m untouchable.” Or something like that. So now that you’ve said that, I think it strengthens JD Delays video.
I’m also incredibly sorry for what you’ve been through. Thank you for speaking out.
@@psychologynerd0423there’s a lawsuit that the sheriff was SA defendants in drug court in the judges chambers and has been deposed in that lawsuit 3 days prior.
@@lisamcclendon2720 that’s against a deputy, not the sheriff.
I live in KY, and I am so sick of people calling us hicks, Mayberry, treating us as lower class people. We are no different than any other state. Good, bad and the ugly. Even Peter said, Oh this is KY, let me slow the video down, the accents.
@@psychologynerd0423 He's got sources that tell him a rumor.
Thank you Peter for covering this one. I can’t wait to see what’s on those phones.
Peter, I always appreciate your objective breakdown of cases. If I ever needed a lawyer, I'd hope to have one like you.
Bro I have been seeing so many channels purely speculating and running with the rumors. Finally someone breaking down the information that we know and the legal system etc. Glad you are covering this story. Also as someone born and raised in KY I fully expect that this case will uncover a lot of corruption but I am not on the speculation train. I wanna know what happened
Ky here too! I want to see all the prior evidence that lead up to this.
@@lilbekah06 Same. I want to know what actually happened with the daughter. Was it a consensual relationship or was the daughter giving information to the judge against the sheriff. I have heard both rumors but dont know if either is true.
Same here Kentucky born and raised .
One day 😊
@@DANL2633_how old is the daughter?
I live in the area where this happened and I’m so glad that you’re not like so many other channels all they do is spread rumors and talk about things that know nothing about ! Thank you for being a class act Peter .
so the detective on the Stan already admitted the daughter's phone number was in the judge's phone. I don't care how good a friend you are; you do not have your friend's daughter's number in your phone, period and that's not speculation that's a fact.
no man will throw his life away like that except for wife, children, or money so which the three is it?
@@Jblaze024really, haven’t we seen so many people with guns throwing their lives away for stupid reasons, other than what you cited? Also, how does that justify killing someone?
If u feel u can say that then tell us the truth!
@@Jblaze024 the detective never said the daughters number was in the judge's phone, but that mickey called her from the judge's phone.
@@stewblare2190 go back before that, the detective admitted that her number was in his phone
As a Kentuckian, I was hoping you would cover this case!!! I always like to hear what you have to say.
I think he'll want it to go to trial so the judge can be exposed for whatever the Sheriff felt he did
suppose it was the Sheriff that will be exposed for what other criminal acts he has been doing.
@@Asidebar-my guess is if the Sheriff has any skeletons in his closet he will ask for a plea deal as opposed to going through with a trial that will expose everything. If the judge has skeletons, my guess is the Defendant will absolutely want a trial because everything will be exposed.
@@rick-grimI think even if the sheriff wants a plea deal I think the prosecution won’t give him one. The severity of this case and the direct ties to the justice system makes me think they will try to hit him with the maximum charges and time possible. I can’t see the defense/sheriff taking it lying down. Unless he pleads guilty to 1st degree to hide something for his family, he’s got nothing to lose. He’s facing life in prison as a former cop…his future is grim.
Sounds like the judge messed with the wrong daughter!!
@@BigDyslexicEnergy I am definitely waiting for all the evidence (especially electronic data). It is interesting to me that there was a video in the judges quarters. The curious side of me wonders “why” that is necessary. If the rumors about the sheriff daughter are valid, I bet he will take his chances on a jury trial!
This makes me sad. For a judge to be sitting in chambers, totally helpless behind his desk and gets shot to death by the one person whose job in the courthouse is to protect him. Freaking ridiculous.
Even if it comes to light he was pedo
Don't presume to know someone you don't. There is corruption everywhere in those hills. FBI is currently looking into fraud of ReHab.....that the JUDGE was in charge of. Wait til all the evidence comes in. Like he said both Judge and Sheriff are presumed INNOCENCE
Thanks for covering this! I just got done watching the hearing. Your expertise is well appreciated for me to learn!
There’s no one better than Peter to introduce us to a case or give us a breakdown of the facts.
The judge may have been trying to help the daughter. Not going to jump to conclusions regarding the victim.
Correct and the daughter could have been helping the judge with a criminal matter of the Sheriff her dad or other deputies.
Yeah, doubtful.
@@Great_Kate the sherrif is a defendant in a lawsuit for one of his former deputies grape a woman numerous times inside those judges chambers. There is something going on and we don't know everything yet
@@QargZer You know what's going on here? Lots of speculation. These DV claims against the Sheriff are new rumors. I watched the hearing today. So far, the edited video the prosecution presented is sus. The judge is sus too. This Sheriff just didn't lose it for no reason. The judge attempting to "hide" the Sheriff's wife and daughter doesn't seem plausible at this point. Where's the evidence of this?
So if wife and daughter were sitting with the sheriff in court..doesn't make sense
“They are trying to kidnap my wife and daughter”. Why would the Sheriff say this??
Only hearsay but someone said judge had issued a protective order for the wife/daughter because something (violence?) was going on at home. Hence, shooter saying they were being kidnapped (kept away from him). But who knows. It's a mess.
@@TweetyPAK7sounds a little far fetched. A protective order doesn’t relate to what we understand as kidnap.
@@Great_Kate an abusive person would claim it's kidnap if they kept them from him. But we don't know what's going on yet. There is so much going on but we know so little. The sheriff is a defendant in a lawsuit about one of his former deputies grape a woman inside those judges chambers. Something weird was going on in that area
@@Great_Kate oh I agree. But in his view it was kidnapping his family (he couldn't be with them). In all the rumors, I've heard nothing about an actual planned kidnapping. 🤷🏻♀️
@@Great_Kate oh please... so you think a crazed criminal will speak like a sane, normal person now?
Thank you Peter for covering this case.
This case is in my hometown and I know both of these men quite personally. Thanks for covering this case man. It means more than you know. God bless ✌️🖤
Well tell us what was going on that caused the sheriff to kill the only judge in town?
Sry your town is going through this.
Tell us then.
Are you friends with them? Did this just come out of no where? 😱
👀 JD Delay live video gives info.
I felt so bad for that woman crying in the gallery. This just happened to, so it's all so fresh. May have been the first time she saw it. That video was horrible. When he was going to walk out, he stopped when he noticed the judge was still moving. Bent down shot the judge again. It's just horrible.
Boo hoo.
@@NVEMBERbo hoo? Are you sick?? To think that someone you love gets shot like that and you wouldn’t cry? You’re sick!
The judge saying "take your best shot," when it's a case about a judge being shot...
I caught that as well.
Thank you Peter for discussing this case with all of us! 💗 I always value your insight and expertise on these cases. Thank you for always providing us with your unbiased coverage. I appreciate it immensely.
It sounds like the defense attorney is trying to nudge the investigator to get the daughter’s phone and make sure the apps are checked on the judge’s phone. Definitely agree the defense is outlining a picture of what may have led to this 😞
I wonder how old the daughter was
@stephjovis3469 she was 17.
@@ellaw356 thx!
@@stephjovis3469she is 17 and special needs
The defense threw a "Hail Mary" trying to get a lesser charge. They're getting all of the prosecution's evidence, including what's on the phone, during the discovery phase, before the actual trial. If anything is withheld, by trial, we might see another fiasco, like the Alec Baldwin case !
The “trying to kidnap my wife and kid” comment really makes me wonder if wife/daughter were about to expose DV or a corruption scandal and were working with the judge because they couldn’t trust the other officers.
Why would they show up and sit behind him as if to show support?
@@Noneyunwere they sitting behind the sheriff for sure? I saw the pics of them and was wondering if they were sitting behind him or the prosecution…
@@herroyalhighness5634 they were sitting behind the sheriff and his brother was there also sitting with them.
@@Noneyun Fear of retaliation. Do you know how much power a county sheriffs department has? Try telling a cop no and if you live, they will remind you of absolute power.
I wondered this as a possibility too, at the moment we just don't know. Personally I'll wait for the evidence to come out. That video was damning though, in my not a lawyer opinion him chasing the judge around the table says 1st degree to me, not the lesser charges
OMG! I was a paralegal for 40 years, and the way this Trooper is answering these questions is so evasive and I would get so angry but I had to not show it to anyone in the Courtroom!
Yes he was constantly trying to pivot to hearsay by saying ohh someone told me. Bro hearsay is allowed just answer the goddammit questions. He is a dishonest lead investigator.
I think they're purposely vague. I mean, I think in hearings like this they are supposed to be vague.
Happy you are looking at this case!!!! Thank you!
This is an interesting one! I wonder what they will find on those phones. Thank you so much for explaining things, Peter. I had many questions in my mind.......and you answered so many of them! I love the way you explain the law for us!!!!
Judge had the sheriffs daughter's number on his phone, and the sheriff rang her on it... then shot the judge... that's what I've heard.
Daughter is 17
@@Scubacrocis the daughter special needs?
This case blows my mind. Thanks for talking about it.
Thank you for covering this one, its really scary. I am waiting for Whitneys take!
Peter, thanks for covering this case. I am from Kentucky and have been interested in this one.
My schedule makes it hard to catch “lives” I so respect and appreciate the manner you present and “withhold” unnecessary, titillating videos to protect others from exposure to unnecessary violence. Your ability to “pause” and reflect on the benefits or negative impact of presentation reflects your integrity to review content and still preserve an environment of learning, not trauma for the sake of ratings or memberships. Class Act Sir.
Good evening Peter. Looking forward to tonight’s discussion🌸
Glad you are breaking this case down... I missed the hearing today.
Yowzers! There seems to be quite a few layers to this case! Please keep covering this one Peter. 😮😮
So glad you are covering this case!
I’m so glad you are following this case!
Just ran across this...SOOO GLAD YOU ARE COVERING THIS CASE. IT'S CRAZY!!!
Ty Peter! Happy you are covering this one!
I think there is WAY more than we will ever know with this case!! This is crazy!
Oooo! So glad you're covering this
Me too!! Now I can get ‘just the facts’ in a very straightforward way along with clear explanations of what things mean. Thank you, Mr. LYK!! You rock!!
This is the year of Exposure!
Thank you for covering this case. Letcher County is where I grew up. I knew Judge Mullins personally. My heart goes out to everyone involved in this situation. Thank you also for not showing the video of Kevin's last moments. I saw it earlier today on another channel and was horrified by what I saw and shocked it was on the feed.
Keep thinking highly of him when the evidence comes out
@@davids5006 I reserve judgment upon him and Steins until all of the facts are completely out. For all I know Steins could have a good reason. For all you know, this could have been unjustified. We simply do not know and should not let rumors dictate a trial.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that watches videos on 1.5 speed. If they're rally slow I put it on 1.75
Thank you for not playing the video.
I was completely shocked when I originally saw it as I wasn’t expecting it at all. And you are right…. An execution is exactly what happened.
Why does the defense attorney know more then the lead investigator? There are so many cases where the detective goes thru the phone immediately and phone data comes through within a day or two. It doesn't have to be dissected to see a lot of things. Something is going on here that the lead investigator is hiding. Again he can say hearsay right now and refuses to by playing ignorant. I don't get it. They need to bring outside investigators that are impartial. The guy killed the sheriff that's for sure and I believe he's guilty 100% but he's not going to get a fair trial and he will win in an appeal and go free. FIX THIS ISSUE NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
the investigator has to get a search warrant and have the IT department to download the phone in cell bright
The Sheriff is a domestic abuser. His wife and daughter were trying to get away from him. They couldn't go to the police because he is the police. The daughter went to the Judge for help. The Judge was trying to help them both escape. He set it up. That explains the lunch...it was a distraction to keep the Sheriff busy while the wife and daughter left. The Sheriff discovered this after the lunch. He somehow figured out the Judge was involved(his wife probably told him). He confronted the Judge about it. The Sheriff tried to call both his wife and daughter. they didn't answer. So he demanded the Judge hand over his phone. The Sheriff then used that phone to call his daughter and she answered, which set him off and he killed the Judge. This explains why the Sheriff would say something along the lines of "they are trying to kidnap my wife and daughter." Just wait and see how much of what I just said ends up being true.
Interesting theory
This is the theory I'm leaning towards. This is what makes the most sense to me in light of what the Judge's DA brother in law said about him in an interview, the angry, impulsive and desperate actions of the sheriff that seem to point to his character and the kidnap comment. I suspect the Judge was helping the wife and daughter leave him. Anyway, it seems the truth will eventually come out.
Could be.
Actually makes perfect sense.
This makes more sense as the other theory is clearly denied in their gofundme
I love the fact that you cover so many different cases. I watched this hearing on L&C today and whoa, that video is rough.
I was hoping you would cover this Peter. This case is very compelling. So many points of interest.
Have the State Police taken over the investigation? I hope so; seems appropriate. ...The kidnap comment was totally unexpected! ... Thanks for covering this, Peter! 💙... Shouldn’t the chief investigator have all the information gathered? Shouldn’t he actually interview the prime players himself?
He knows exactly what was said by the 'witnesses' closest to the shooting! There's zero scenario where this wouldn't have been discussed. I find him outrageously
disobliging!!
Yeah appropriate but this trooper investigating is inadequate at his job
Hit that Like Button for ALL Peter's hard work 🙌
We don’t know details but my first thought was the judge helping the sheriffs wife & daughter escape an abusive situation? Based on sheriff saying “kidnap his wife & daughter”. That’s what came to my mind.
So when you hear trying to kidnap wife and daughter you immediately think of someone helping someone 🤔
@@davids5006I think it’s a solid hypothesis- an abuser could absolutely frame escape as being kidnapped. That being said, I’m definitely open to other theories. Has there been suspicion of the judge in some way? All we know is that the sheriff killed a man and said something about kidnap (but a phone number doesn’t really tally with kidnapping in the traditional sense)
@@davids5006 yes. An abuser would think of it that way. It’s a guess based on what we know as of today.
Are the wife and daughter at the hearing ? If not I’m thinking yes !
I agree especially since they addressed the sexual relationship rumors on their gofund me and have said it's all false. Also the gofund me is only for Caroline and her daughter, not to support the sheriff at all.
I am just going to mirror the rest of the comments but I am so glad you are covering this case. FINALLLY someone who will go through everything without bias and give a reasonable explanation to the events unfolding. Love the content.
I live in Kentucky, and I can tell you that the rumors are spreading like wildfire.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of the victim. Also, with law enforcement, investigators, and the judge who hears this case and with anyone that may have to become part of the jury, if the case goes to trial. I am sure that this case is going to affect all involved given who the victim and perpetrator are.
Do you know if this fact that was shared is true: i saw that in the video surveillance footage that shows the judge and sheriff switching phones @ one point. Have you heard that?
@Luisa-H208 I haven't heard that one. The rumors are flying so fast it's hard to keep up with. I have spent time in West Liberty, it is a quaint tiny town. This has thrown so many Kentuckians into a whirlwind.
It's truly hard to believe it's happened and even more heartbreaking that something like this could happen.
@@Luisa-H208 on a lighter note.... there is another tiny town about 50 miles from West Liberty named Louisa Ky.
Oh what a tangled web we weave! Sounds very interesting. 🧐 🤔 Gonna have to do some research on this one.😊
Watched in replay and wonder if wife and child went to Judge about DV by Sheriff and trying to relocate in protective custody.
I don’t know anything about this case….just seen titles of sheriff v judge. Thanks Peter.
Living in KY, I am glad you are covering the case. I think it will actually go to trial because I think the defense wants what he thinks or knows as his truth about the judge to come out. I’ve spoken to some acquaintances from the area about the shooting, and I think there is much more to this case than we know. I think the charges will have to be reduced to manslaughter(murder2) for it to not go to trial.
Thanks Peter for covering this.
Thank you Peter for this video. I’m like you I don’t know what’s going on because no one is saying anything.
I don’t understand how someone could be that mad to kill someone and spend his life in jail. We will find out soon.
Whoa. The lead on the case got really nervous when defense was asking about a gun in the chambers.
Thank you for covering this Peter! There seems to be more to this than what meets the eye.
Thank you so much for covering this! I was really hoping you would!
I have lived here in letcher county my whole life, I hope everything that has been going on comes out!!!
Can't wait to hear about this!💙
I’m concerned at how easy it was for the investigator to go from “I don’t know” to “I know some”. Just be honest, especially when your case is generally easier than most considering you have video evidence. Too easy to lie and for what?
Yes. I thought the same. His voice was cracking. Not sure what is going on in this case but it seems to be an odd one.
I heard that the sheriff wife & daughter left him about a month ago. And the judge was trying to help them get away. Apparently, the sheriff called his daughter from his phone and she didn't answer. So he called from judges phone and she answered. Set him off !! Judge did dv cases , he was helping them get away .
Oh damn. Did not know that. Where’d you see that?
I sure hope that’s what’s happening and not the other rumors
Anything seems possible until we get to trial I guess!
From someone who knows the wife personally that’s completely not true.
I 100% agree with this. It would explain the whole "they are trying to kidnap my wife and daughter" comment he made. That one comment is what really got me thinking about what could possibly be the motive. All this talk about the judge being inappropriate with the daughter could have held weight had it not been for that comment he made.
Replay crew here: so glad you started this. I just saw it today and was hoping you or Emily would cover.
Thanks Peter.
Very interesting. Glad you are covering this very unusual case.
Peter, please stay on this case! This seems quite layered and far from a straight forward m case. Very interesting...
Thank you for cutting the shooting. People can go elsewhere to watch and come back you for legal analysis. I happened to be watching the hearing live, and it was too much.💔
Just for perspective, because I live in a nearby county, these guys don't just know of ezch other or know each other casually. EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYONE. Theygrew up together, they dated each other's sister or cousins. They go to church together and are probably all related in some distant fashion. There are no secrets in this type of town. Ever.
I’ll wager there are a lot of torn officials currently involved in this matter. Some supportive of one side or the other. Hope it’s possible for the actual truth to come out.
I’ve heard the rumors and I don’t believe them . Also , the sheriffs wife has a Go Fund Me for Attorney fees etc and she specifically points out that this does not have to do with anything inappropriate regarding her daughter and the judge . I believe they were separated . Also, this investigator is being very cautious for obvious reasons .He also doesn’t seem to have gotten most of the evidence the defense is asking about yet. The defense does seem a little “ trite “ 😂 and the investigator seems annoyed
Investigator seems to not be doing his job
The GFM page states the money is for wife & daughter to help them out, it says nothing that it’s for defense fees.
This is a crazy case. There's so much behind this.
I wonder why no one in the DA Office or even the defense is talking about what was on the phone.
Damage control maybe. It seems like several things were going on and none of them a good look for the system
That whole sheriff's department and everything else in that town is corrupt
Soooooo glad you are covering this!! This seems like the start of a crazy trial!! You rock!!
What trial?? He’s going to take a plea deal & we will never know what exactly happened. He’s going to admit he killed him & that’s the end of the story.
I’ve never seen or heard a detective that nervous and stressed at an initial hearing. Stamper is an experienced KSP detective and whatever the non-public facts are at this point, they’ve got him shook.
Hello Peter! Glad to see you two times in one day
Late to watch this, but so glad you're covering this case. Have you seen the arraignment video for the sheriff? I feel like that was so weird. A public defender was there with the sheriff in custody before the judge. Prosecutor alleged that that public defender improperly solicited the defendant, the court had not appointed an attorney nor had the defendant taken steps to ask for a public defender. When the judge asked, the sheriff said that he had no lawyer & had not taken any steps to seek representation, the judge felt it unlikely that the sheriff was unable to afford an attorney yet no one objected to that public defender counseling & speaking on behalf of the defendant. Shouldn't that lawyer have been kicked out the second the sheriff basically said I have no lawyer, if not sooner when the prosecutor raised doubts about the propriety of that defender seeking to represent this high-profile client? The arraignment video is like 9 minutes & it just felt so weird to me watching it. That public defender is not at the defendant's table in this hearing, so I just have so many questions about what he was doing at the arraignment.
I am from Kentucky and I have very good friends who live in the town and some who work at that Courthouse and while I do not condone someone shooting someone else I can't understand why if the rumors are true
When he was taken into custody, I was told by one of the other officers there that he made the comment, ‘They’re trying to kidnap my wife and kid,’” he said.
Stamper said Stines was “mostly calm” by the time he arrived at the shooting scene.
“Basically, all he said was, ‘Treat me fair,’” Stamper said.
Holyshit looks a like he executed him. And kept then kept shooting him. Too harsh? If this isn't murder 1 what the fuck is?
Crime of passion, DO NOT FUCK WITH PEOPLES KIDS.
How is this such a difficult concept?
@B.V.Luminous zero proof that this rumor is a fact. The family. Son, daughter, mother and her sister have posted and denied this.
@@B.V.Luminous prove your claims
@@estellesiecker9951 sure, tell me why the judge had the sheriff's daughters number saved?
@@bobthetitanic what did I claim?
Thanks Pete. My dad and I in New York are very curious about this case.
Lead investigator was clearly told not to say anything about anything. It’s so bizarre.
its not bizarre at all
Yup he wasn't giving anything up, he kept saying I haven't seen or read something but he knew about it from someone. Hearsay is allowed and the Lead kept trying to pivot to hearsay hoping it would be objected. If this was the actual trial and he behaved this way I'd have discredited and ignored his whole testimony.
How do you know that, it's only been a couple of weeks, sounds like he hasn't had time to review all the evidence
@@cfawcett9870 because he was asked do you know this about X
He would say I have not seen/examined X
The lawyer would ask so you don't know anything about X
The officer would say I do know about X and say I was told by someone.
He is avoiding the question trying to pivot to hearsay. He needs to say what he knows about X wether it's from any source because hearsay is allowed. Totally dishonesty by the lead investigator.
@@marcopalazzo9349 so thank you for agreeing with me that he hasn't had time to review the evidence himself yet
There is NO WAY a Kentucky judge is going to not take this to trial as a murder 1. I live in KY.
Fair.
This "lead investigator" seems very opposed to giving any information that he obviously is privy to. Is this strange to you Peter?
Because the investigation just started. It’s a preliminary hearing to find probable cause.
The investigator did what was required. It would not be wise to give more information at this point in time.
@@lisamcclendon2720 takes 2 years when an officer is involved for some reason.
I worked as a cop for 24 years, 12 of those as the Chief of Police. A line of duty accident left me disabled, and I retrained as a paralegal, my summer internship was with the District Court Judge who's court I had previously worked with for many years. I learned a lot during that internship that I wished I had known as a cop but at any rate I can understand a lot of what is going on in this case, at least I have a feel for it. I think it is way to soon to take a side in this case, we hear the rumors of the judges interaction with the Sheriff's daughter who I understand is 17 years old, and having raised a daughter through those years, I can assure you that a father has a strong bond with his daughter, at least I did, and if I believed someone was making improper moves on her, I would surely have confronted him. Don't think I would have shot him but I don't know all of what is going on in that county, I understand there can be, and often are some strange folk who exercise a lot of illegal power over those folks. Guess we will have to wait till the full investigation is complete
Thank you for not showing the video. I saw it earlier today. It is horrific and knowing he was the Sheriff makes it exponentially worse.
Thanks, Peter, for covering. 😮
Thanks, Peter.
That fact the sheriff used the judges phone, then kills the judge, tells me it has something to do with whoever the sheriff was trying to call.
Why in the world would they not take the daughters phone. It was called 2x in the commission of this crime? And why would noone go interview him at the jail, he didnt lawyer up right away. Completely Sus
I thought both of those things were strange as well.
Pigs aren't treated the same as humans. They are innocent until proven guilty, even when there's video evidence. Us mortals are treated guilty until proven innocent.
Cause the cops who were supposed to take it are in the defendants pocket???? Its protecting their own like it always is.
Thank you for clipping out the video. I was going to skip over it. but clipping it made it easier.
1st degree premeditated murder for sure. They went to lunch together. There was no arguing noted by witnesses in the parking lot before they went into the building. There was no arguing in the judge's chambers. It just shows the sheriff pulling out a gun and shooting the judge in cold blood. Sheriff waits until they get into the judge's chambers so no one can stop him and judge can't get anyone to help him. Looks like 1st degree premeditated murder to me.
Even if the sheriff was enraged before the encounter; he had time to cool down. If there was an issue with his daughter and the judge that was maybe improper then the judge should be reported. The judge has the right to due process. The sheriff should know this better than anyone.
The sheriff performed an execution.
Thank you Peter for reviewing this. My home state. Seems like there is more to this than initially seemed.
@@Julia-uh4li I will stick to Peter’s channel for coverage. I don’t like to speculate and only want to hear evidence as it comes out.
@@susanyaggi6533
Okay, fair enough. Like I'd said, it's all laid out if you ever change your mind. Personally, I'd rather hear of these things sooner, especially if they are backed up later by the lead investor like what just happened today 100%!
But then, I am a rather impatient person. I do hate the talking heads who spend hundreds of hours speculating long before a trial ever is set to begin, so I can relate to how you feel. For me, that's a waste of valuable time.
Thanks Peter!
I think we need to get court docs from that civil suit.
This stuff didn’t happen on Mayberry RFD.
Thank you for using discretion!
the video of the killing is truly disturbing 😮
Thanks Peter...You never disappoint !!