25:52 Caller: "Why doesn't CBS deliver the 1-2 punch and sign somebody for 12:35... it just seems the natural thing to do right now." Carter: "... and believe me, they're thinking about it." Snyder: "What do you hear?" Carter: "... I think what they want is a broadcaster..." 27:46 Carter: "... but you really got to get the right person." Less than a year later, it was Tom Snyder who got that slot.
My curse is to have become a Tom Snyder fan 17 years after he passed. I remember his CBS show but didn't watch it at the time. Thanks for the clips, Don.
Remembering at CBS he was following David Letterman, and he felt the responsibility, as David wanted Tom to follow him and no one else, that was a feat to live up to, and probably made him more cautious and nervous at not failing.
I agree,, I remember watching TS on CNBC regularly and I was amazed how good he was, he really was the best he'd ever been, or ever would be. Letterman producer Robert Morton recently did a podcast and he said when Snyder went to CBS all a sudden he got lazy..and it showed. I can't disagree with Morton, plus I think Snyder didn't have the energy to maintain such a high quality..he had enormous talent but man, it's a lot harder than it looks.
I really, really, really enjoyed Tom Snyder’s programs, especially this late-night effort on CNBC. Used to watch him just about every night. I miss him, and I miss this type program on television.
Looks like O.J. was doing that commercial for Hertz on the back of that 1975 in flight magazine... 1994 was the last year anyone would consider the Juice a spokesperson for anything.
Tom Snyder TOOK that job (a year later in January 1995) he suggested to CBS during this interview for the post-Letterman time-slot to compete against Conan on NBC after Leno
Based on Tom’s comment at 14:50 (and the fact that Letterman was routinely calling in to his show), it sounds like they were already in talks for Tom to host the Late Late Show. At any rate, very glad that worked out.
NBC plans in 1992 was to have Jay Leno host the Tonight Show, as Jay was a crowd pleaser, and did what NBC management wanted. They then wanted to keep Letterman at 12.35am, however they would increase his salary, and give him prime time specials during the year, which would be designed as a "lead in" to Leno's Tonight Show on maybe 25 weeks of the year. That was the plan.
Quintessential Snyder. The CNBC show was great. Tom was always relaxed, funny, and at the top of his game. At CNBC, Snyder acted as if he were playing with house money. That changed once he got to 12:30 at CBS. He always seemed a bit on edge, even a bit nervous at times, and was probably overconsumed with pleasing his boss, David Letterman. He should've stayed at CNBC: two years later along came MSNBC, where he could've been their answer to Larry King.
I think the problem was that Tom now had competition to think about. Conan had been weak ratings wise but after Tom was hired, Conan started to finally click.with the audience. The main reason Tom was hired by Letterman is that Dave always regretted that his Late Night show replaced Tom's Tomorrow show (not that Dave had anything to do with that). But Dave always had tremendous respect for Tom. Costas would have been the better fit. Don't get me wrong, I loved Tom. As an insomniac kid, his Tomorrow show got me through many sleepless nights. It would have been better for CBS to go with Jon Stewart and your MSNBC scenario would have been better for Tom, but hindsight is always 20/20 and no one knew about the future with MSNBC. I think it was a mistake for Tom to keep taking calls on TLLS since it wasn't live. I loved Tom's CNBC show and wish it had continued but I'm sure he enjoyed the big pay increase he got by going to CBS and we got Charles Grodin's show because of it.
Showing O.J on the back of that inflight magazine just months before the murder spree. Spooky. You ever see O.J with a banana in his hand pretending to stab that tabloid reporter? I don't mean to be harsh but that O.J seems like a real jerk. Bill Carter must have felt strange talking about Dave while Dave called in and was obviously listening. Seemed a little nervous during Dave's phone-in.
Yes, Jay Leno turning down *CBS* was a big mistake. They would've been thrilled with his then second place ratings. Further, since Dave probably would've been the one getting forcibly retired to make room for a younger host, seems clear that going to *CBS* was the best decision Dave could've made for his career. I don't think any of us need to feel sorry for him.
I always tried to guess how long it took Tom to realise it was David Letterman speaking here at 10:50 - I think the moment was 13:10 when Dave said "I'm in sand and gravel"
@@dongiller: Thanks, for this link and, heavens, yes; you can see by his expression-Tom, almost, immediately, gets it. I'm guessing @, "Tom, are you a big man?"
Another great upload! Great to watch Snyder shows, if not an imposition, is the Carlin segment fit for upload? Fun fact: Tom & George shared a birthday, Tom was one year older [May 12th 1936 & '37].
Around 10 years ago I downloaded a huge collection of George Carlin clips (HBO specials, television shows, more). It's on one of my backup drives. When time allows, I'll punch it up and see if his interview with Tom is included.
Well, I just found the time, because I wanted to know. Cranked up several BU drives and found the collection. Alas, the Snyder interview wasn't included.
Ah, no problem - thank you for going above & beyond to check, much appreciated. As aforementioned, these Snyder shows have been great viewing/listening - if there is more of them in pipeline, then that'd be grand too. All the best!
@@dongiller - I just watched it. Jerry from Tipton. It didn't sound a helluva lot like Dave but he seemed to have too much knowledge of Indianapolis' roadways. Someone derided NBC for not sprucing up the green room and the hallways. Was that NBC in LA? Or was it NBC in NY? Especially when compared to CBS and the Ed Sullivan Theater. Star and host have a more pleasant experience with a new, more modern experience. NBC - sour grapes for keeping their intellectual property? Dave kept top 10 but NBC kept. the name "Larry (Bud) Melman".
An iced drink being drunk by Tom there whilst Bill speaks, Tom is not in shot and of course his mic is on. Only we can guest what was in along with the ice.
That's insane! I can't believe that they didn't even mention Conan O'Brien replacing David Letterman or Greg Kinnear replacing Bob Costas in the interview because they were players in the late night game that year, too. Do you happen to have Tom Snyder's CNBC interviews with Greg Kinnear & Conan O'Brien? I'd like to see those.
I skimmed through all of my tape logs looking for Snyder's CNBC shows the last few days and jotted down the tape number of any entry I found. I don't recall Kinnear's name coming up. Very time-consuming to check again.
I see! Well, Greg Kinnear appeared on Tom Snyder's CNBC show shortly after he became the new host of Later on NBC, and I believe that he appeared on the show before Tom Snyder appeared on Later.
To your initial argument: Kinnear and Conan weren't players in the slightest during the Leno/Letterman drama in 1991-93. Costas was still hosting "Later," and Conan was selected as Dave's successor in April 1993, long after the Leno/Letterman drama had ended.
13:15 - "I'm in sand and gravel" - That was pure Letterman, a simple line turned into pure comedy, made me burst out laughing too.
25:52
Caller: "Why doesn't CBS deliver the 1-2 punch and sign somebody for 12:35... it just seems the natural thing to do right now."
Carter: "... and believe me, they're thinking about it."
Snyder: "What do you hear?"
Carter: "... I think what they want is a broadcaster..."
27:46
Carter: "... but you really got to get the right person."
Less than a year later, it was Tom Snyder who got that slot.
My curse is to have become a Tom Snyder fan 17 years after he passed. I remember his CBS show but didn't watch it at the time. Thanks for the clips, Don.
From the few clips i've seen of Tom's CNBC show, he certainly seems more relaxed and at ease here than he did at CBS.
Remembering at CBS he was following David Letterman, and he felt the responsibility, as David wanted Tom to follow him and no one else, that was a feat to live up to, and probably made him more cautious and nervous at not failing.
I agree,, I remember watching TS on CNBC regularly and I was amazed how good he was, he really was the best he'd ever been, or ever would be. Letterman producer Robert Morton recently did a podcast and he said when Snyder went to CBS all a sudden he got lazy..and it showed. I can't disagree with Morton, plus I think Snyder didn't have the energy to maintain such a high quality..he had enormous talent but man, it's a lot harder than it looks.
I really, really, really enjoyed Tom Snyder’s programs, especially this late-night effort on CNBC. Used to watch him just about every night. I miss him, and I miss this type program on television.
Tom was one of us, the Night People.
Looks like O.J. was doing that commercial for Hertz on the back of that 1975 in flight magazine... 1994 was the last year anyone would consider the Juice a spokesperson for anything.
This is great stuff
Thanks Don Giller!😂
Tom Snyder TOOK that job (a year later in January 1995) he suggested to CBS during this interview for the post-Letterman time-slot to compete against Conan on NBC after Leno
No one reads my descriptions beneath the videos.
Don Giller guilty 😂
Based on Tom’s comment at 14:50 (and the fact that Letterman was routinely calling in to his show), it sounds like they were already in talks for Tom to host the Late Late Show. At any rate, very glad that worked out.
NBC plans in 1992 was to have Jay Leno host the Tonight Show, as Jay was a crowd pleaser, and did what NBC management wanted. They then wanted to keep Letterman at 12.35am, however they would increase his salary, and give him prime time specials during the year, which would be designed as a "lead in" to Leno's Tonight Show on maybe 25 weeks of the year. That was the plan.
Letterman does the dimwit "huh!?" type character impersonation better than anybody else...
They're not actually dim though.
I didn't realize it until Tom told us.
I really believed Letterman was some caffeine-jacked doofus.
Quintessential Snyder. The CNBC show was great. Tom was always relaxed, funny, and at the top of his game. At CNBC, Snyder acted as if he were playing with house money. That changed once he got to 12:30 at CBS. He always seemed a bit on edge, even a bit nervous at times, and was probably overconsumed with pleasing his boss, David Letterman. He should've stayed at CNBC: two years later along came MSNBC, where he could've been their answer to Larry King.
I think the problem was that Tom now had competition to think about. Conan had been weak ratings wise but after Tom was hired, Conan started to finally click.with the audience. The main reason Tom was hired by Letterman is that Dave always regretted that his Late Night show replaced Tom's Tomorrow show (not that Dave had anything to do with that). But Dave always had tremendous respect for Tom. Costas would have been the better fit. Don't get me wrong, I loved Tom. As an insomniac kid, his Tomorrow show got me through many sleepless nights. It would have been better for CBS to go with Jon Stewart and your MSNBC scenario would have been better for Tom, but hindsight is always 20/20 and no one knew about the future with MSNBC. I think it was a mistake for Tom to keep taking calls on TLLS since it wasn't live. I loved Tom's CNBC show and wish it had continued but I'm sure he enjoyed the big pay increase he got by going to CBS and we got Charles Grodin's show because of it.
"Don't 'blank' with Johnny." Hahaha
Just amazing
Showing O.J on the back of that inflight magazine just months before the murder spree. Spooky. You ever see O.J with a banana in his hand pretending to stab that tabloid reporter? I don't mean to be harsh but that O.J seems like a real jerk.
Bill Carter must have felt strange talking about Dave while Dave called in and was obviously listening. Seemed a little nervous during Dave's phone-in.
Nah he's a good man...
@@thedreadedmarco Ha ha. Quisling.
Had to look that up in the dictionary to spell it correctly.
Back in those days OJ was a jock that did well for himself.
We were all glad for him. Between Avis and the funny movies he was doing well.
I thought I recognized that voice on the phone haha
All of Dave's prank calls to Tom here -- ruclips.net/video/OkH4JV0wpZE/видео.html
Don Giller thanks, Don!
This is why Joy Behar asked Dave, when he was on The View, if he used to crank call her when she had a radio show.
Yes, Jay Leno turning down *CBS* was a big mistake. They would've been thrilled with his then second place ratings. Further, since Dave probably would've been the one getting forcibly retired to make room for a younger host, seems clear that going to *CBS* was the best decision Dave could've made for his career. I don't think any of us need to feel sorry for him.
Arsenio had a special talent: He could both sit and genuflect at the same time. It was those couches...
I always tried to guess how long it took Tom to realise it was David Letterman speaking here at 10:50 - I think the moment was 13:10 when Dave said "I'm in sand and gravel"
Tom knew immediately. Here’s the collection of Dave’s prank calls to Tom - ruclips.net/video/OkH4JV0wpZE/видео.html
@@dongiller: Thanks, for this link and, heavens, yes; you can see by his expression-Tom, almost, immediately, gets it. I'm guessing @, "Tom, are you a big man?"
Another great upload!
Great to watch Snyder shows, if not an imposition, is the Carlin segment fit for upload?
Fun fact: Tom & George shared a birthday, Tom was one year older [May 12th 1936 & '37].
Unfortunately, I didn't tape the rest of the show.
All good, these selections are great in and of themselves, keep on keeping on!
Around 10 years ago I downloaded a huge collection of George Carlin clips (HBO specials, television shows, more). It's on one of my backup drives. When time allows, I'll punch it up and see if his interview with Tom is included.
Well, I just found the time, because I wanted to know. Cranked up several BU drives and found the collection. Alas, the Snyder interview wasn't included.
Ah, no problem - thank you for going above & beyond to check, much appreciated.
As aforementioned, these Snyder shows have been great viewing/listening - if there is more of them in pipeline, then that'd be grand too.
All the best!
Carter has cool glasses
I forget...was CNBC after CBS which was after NBC? Where did Snyder go when Letterman took over NBC at 12:30?
Tom’s CNBC show was years after the Tomorrow Show and before his Late Late Show at CBS.
@@andyb811 Google is your friend.
Was this really Letterman calling-in as "Don"? I guess he used to prank call Tom Snyder on his show.
It was; here’s a collection of Dave’s prank calls to Tom - ruclips.net/video/OkH4JV0wpZE/видео.html
@@dongiller - I just watched it. Jerry from Tipton. It didn't sound a helluva lot like Dave but he seemed to have too much knowledge of Indianapolis' roadways. Someone derided NBC for not sprucing up the green room and the hallways. Was that NBC in LA? Or was it NBC in NY? Especially when compared to CBS and the Ed Sullivan Theater. Star and host have a more pleasant experience with a new, more modern experience. NBC - sour grapes for keeping their intellectual property? Dave kept top 10 but NBC kept. the name "Larry (Bud) Melman".
Did he take Stupid Pet Tricks with him to CBS?
@@andyb811 Yes.
@@andyb811 All of the phone calls to Tom in this collection came from Dave.
Is this important and how does it relate to Russia? Hi Dave.
Is it my imagination or does that sound like a glass of whiskey on the rocks at 23:34?
An iced drink being drunk by Tom there whilst Bill speaks, Tom is not in shot and of course his mic is on. Only we can guest what was in along with the ice.
noice!
That's insane! I can't believe that they didn't even mention Conan O'Brien replacing David Letterman or Greg Kinnear replacing Bob Costas in the interview because they were players in the late night game that year, too. Do you happen to have Tom Snyder's CNBC interviews with Greg Kinnear & Conan O'Brien? I'd like to see those.
I have Conan's appearance. Will put it up in time (haven't digitized it yet). I don't think I have Kinnear's.
That's understandable. Thank you very much. It doesn't hurt to double-check, though.
I skimmed through all of my tape logs looking for Snyder's CNBC shows the last few days and jotted down the tape number of any entry I found. I don't recall Kinnear's name coming up. Very time-consuming to check again.
I see! Well, Greg Kinnear appeared on Tom Snyder's CNBC show shortly after he became the new host of Later on NBC, and I believe that he appeared on the show before Tom Snyder appeared on Later.
To your initial argument: Kinnear and Conan weren't players in the slightest during the Leno/Letterman drama in 1991-93. Costas was still hosting "Later," and Conan was selected as Dave's successor in April 1993, long after the Leno/Letterman drama had ended.