1001 likes and I will give away a Klipsch Forte IV to one of the subscribers that liked the video Klipsch Forte IV: amzn.to/33DdsRH our Audiophile Merch: nbt-studio.creator-spring.com/ Other Heritage speakers: Klipsch Heresey III: amzn.to/2NR50d7 Klipsch forte III: amzn.to/2MFL4Je Klipsch La Scala: amzn.to/2Ys1Q1u Klipsch klipschorn: amzn.to/3oyXe3Y Cornwall IV: amzn.to/3uKa8jJ acoustic panels I use: ua-acoustics.com/ acoustic curtain: amzn.to/31d1zAM BDI Cabinet I use: bit.ly/2OJRwQQ amzn.to/3chBuFZ other BDI Cabinets: bit.ly/3ctxXV1
I'm absolutely addicted to my forte II with mods. I listen for ten or more hours a day. During covid-19. Zero fatigue. I run a vintage marantz 2285b. Bliss.
I was a proud owner of a pair of Heresy II when I was young like you, and really appreciate your approach to reviews, especially in this "Klipsch dilemma" that splits in two, from decades, the audiophile people. Great job, Jay!
I really like how you clearly outlined the sound of Horn/Klipsch speakers and made clear that many horn speakers nowadays sound way different than what most people think, i.e. better. I hope your video is enough to make some people curious about the sound of Klipsch speakers and maybe even gets some people who don't like Horn speakers to give them another shot and just listen to a modern good Klipsch speaker. I myself haven't owned a Klipsch speaker in quite a long time and was thinking about it the other night, so maybe I'll make the call right now :) Thanks for all the informative, as well as, entertaining videos! Keep up the good work!
I’m only sorry I didn’t see your video a lot earlier than this. Thank you for a video that is easy to follow and understand, and presenting the fundamentals for a novice like me. It’s taken me 73 years to find someone to explain all the things I’ve noticed but never been able to define before. Well done, and thanks again!
Omg if I won those forte 4’s I would absolutely cry. I’ve wanted to hear something from the heritage line for quite some time now. Just out of my price range. But I’ve been listening to klipsch for about a decade and I’m 29.
I have been looking at Speakers for a while now and today I have Mirage Om-7 speakers and have been looking at Klipsch Forte IV for a while. And now i become even more interested in that speakers. Good review.
Roy Delgado is doing great things at Klipsch. Nice review, although i would have liked to see more of a comparison to the CWIV and the HIV if you've heard a pair. That's 3 different price ranges and size ranges for people to consider in the non-fully-horn loaded heritage lineup
I loved this review!!! Insightful and entertaining!! Thanks.I'm 66yrs. old and my current 2 channel system is The Heresy 4s and Naim unity Atom with a Definitive Sub. I absolutely love the sound I get in my listening space. And placement with these speakers is EVERYTHING with these also. Thanks keep up the good work!!
I own Cornwall IV's and if you would've told me 10 years ago that I would I would've laughed. I've owned Maggies, Vandersteen, Thiel, Spica, Dahlquist, ESS, Spendor and Manu more. Nothing has provided a more enjoyable sound as have the CW's. Your review is one of the best Heritage reviews I have seen. Well done indeed!
After over 20 years of being into audio, the Forte IV are the first Klipsch speakers that I’ve liked enough to buy. Also wound up liking vintage late 90’s Rotel integrated amp I have. The slightly rolled highs on vintage amps matched well for me. Only thing I noticed with the Forte’s they can be powered with low wattage but become much more dynamic with more power, my old Rotel is 250 watts per channel, AB, might have something to do with their peak power rating being so high at 400 watts. Tried my tube amp and many other solid states including Naim and Chord, liked the vintage AB solid state best.
I am in love with the heritage series, especially the Cornwall IVs. They are the aural equivalent of a hot rod: brutish, American, exciting, engaging. You don't feel neutral about them. Me? I'm obsessed.
Great review!!! I just listened to your Cornwall Iv review and then this one again and my choice is definitely the Forte IV! I was going to spend money on something less expensive but I am going to wait and get these!!! Thanks
Jay you are an absolutely right on the money buddy. I have a set of Klipsch Chorus and I just went to my music room and pointed them maybe a bit more than slightly towards the room and WOW WOW WOW.
I'd like Klipsch a lot. I have a pair of Cornwall III and I love it. Big realism and live performance. But they demands to adjust to your room accurately; so if you will do it, you will enjoy them so much!
I have two different systems in my home one with Cornwalls the other Heresy's .They sound different one like being in a studio, the other like being in a music venue. I will always be a Klipsch man !!
Jay I must say very generous of you..I never had the pleasure to listen to the IV's. I've heard the II and older. yes definitely that concert sound naturally do to horns being used in live music. They just didn't have the mid-bass I enjoy. Can't wait to hear the IV's. Great Review. Keeping it real..
Klipsch and horn speakers in general bring a unique level of realism that other designs don't have. And today's Klipsch speakers are much more refined and forgiving than they've been in the past. And with so many low power tube amps on the market now, their high sensitivity is a nice bonus.
All good points. Only a few watts of tube power & you get wonderfully vivid sounding speaker that's plenty loud enough for home listening scenarios. The Forte IV gives the listener a lot of that room filling La Scala sound at a decent price.
Yes, horns and tubes are both wonderful and very realistic. It goes without saying, ya gotta learn what your room sounds like, which takes some practice.
I have a horn rig at home (Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12) and haven't heard klipsch speakers but am expecting a similar sound with the "rough edges" filed out as I have to EQ the Bill Fitzmaurice quite a bit. I have also played with Eminence APT80 tweeters and they do clean and powerful well in a multi way setup. Paper cone tweeters sound like RUclips in comparison. They are not a background speaker as the highs are crisp. You can soften the highs with a grille or equaliser. I happen to like this sound. I want to hear the finger snaps and bass twang. I find some speakers a bit boring (vintage KEF passive radiator design I had) where it sounds like the tweeters are barely on - or they are buried behind some laundry.
Compliments for a great review ! No complicated adjectives used to describe the experience which no one understand other than the reviewer himself. I own a pair of Forte III and really enjoy them, and I think that these just take the game forward. So many people complain about build quality of Klipsch, with no internal bracing, inadequate internal insulation, cheaper crossover components, and without any separate chambers for mids & lows (like their own reference floorstanders RF 7 III), but the Forte ‘s still sound great. Really great.
They use compression drivers for the mids and tweeter. Why would they need separate chambers for mids and lows (or highs) when the horns are already isolated from the woofer due to the fact they are horn-loaded.
@@frankvee There could be coatings for the horns themselves, extra bracing that does not rattle itself, more expensive parts, thicker cabinets, special wiring, for a slightly better sound, but the price per speaker would easily go up $500.00 per speaker. This is where DIY mods come into play. I would like to see a premium version for each speaker. I don't know if klipsch is willing to do that. It would require lots more manufacturing space and parts inventory.
The lively editing style of this video rivals the dynamic presentation of the Forte IV! I really like your tips on setup and equipment matching. As a horn lover, I wonder how the Volti Razz speaker compares to the Klipsch Heritage line. Hopefully you can hear Volti speakers some day.
I have Cornwall IV and Razz BUT havent done an A/B yet. The Cabinets and parts used to make the Volti are superior in every way. Wont be surprised if the RAZZ are better bang for the buck.
Great video Jay. I have an old pair of kg2s; after 33 years I still swear by them. I like vinyl - few other speakers can handle vinyl recordings like Klipsch.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts (especially with regard to integrity at low volume playback). In my area exposing (easily appraisable) new bought things on sidewalk would be way too dangerous as I already made my experience with burglary within few days afterwards. I usually use black stretch film to hide the contents of whatever I bring in or out. The way to go is talking to delivery guys and apply that black film instantly prior to unloading. In your neighbourhood might be unnecessary, lucky You! BTW Steve Guttenberg just acquired a taste for driving the Cornwalls with high end Class D (e/g Mola Mola). As usual, there are more paramenters or "adjusting screws" to consider and even more of trial-and-error experiments to bear, like it or not.
I'm neither a lover nor hater of Klipsch. I have a pair of bookshelf Klipsch, used them for a time with TV setup, now they sit on a shelf. For day to day music listening I prefer my AR tower speakers.
I love Klipsch speakers, I have 4 sets of all size ... I don't understand haters... too bad .... I don't hate anything that plays music! I love my RP 8000F .... they make a good clean jazz record sound like you are in the room with the artists.. I have a sort of older set of RB 75 ... you may not know them ... early 2000s ... they are remarkable and still sell very well on Ebay! If you ever get to hear them I would enjoy hearing what you think. Very well done young man... as always!
Understand I’ve been Rocking k horns up front and Belle’s Klipsch speakers 🔊 on B-channel in back. Together they are live entertainment. For over thirty years I’ve been Rocking ! You can completely rebuild a Klipsch speaker in about 1/2 an hour. Quality is superb. It’s like having a old friend taking a walk with you.❤
Love the Klipsch sound. Legendary. The dynamics are more realistic than 95% of speakers. Not the most accurate but they sound like real live music more than most others.
i just want to say this Jay, thank god you have this channel. The other where we had the three M, was just not in your league. Love your videos. Keep it up.
I recently heard a pair being run with a Peachtree amp and Bluesound Node 2i. They were nearly against the wall in a line of speakers and a few feet from each other. I listened to them about a minute of so and told the salesman I was finished listening - they were dull, flat, not engaging at all, no dynamics. This was just after hearing the KLH Model 5’s and Wharfdale Littons, which both sounded much better. After hearing nothing like anyone has described for the Fortes, I would second the notion that placement and equipment matter a whole lot with these.
THANK YOU! Finally, a thorough Klipsch Legacy overview/review. 1) Spend huge money on audiophile grade solid state gear or use them with tubes, at least a tube preamp if you're using a solid state amp. (Paul Klipsch originally designed for small tube preamp and tube amp systems). If you want lively with solid state go to the Tektron moab (approx same money). 2) Clap your hands hard late at night in your listening room, if it's a ringy, echo bitch don't get Klipsch or treat the room. 3) Other than K-Horns, move them away from the wall behind them, 3 to 5 feet. Keep em' away from side walls and/or treat the damn room. 4) Adjust the toe-in to taste, you can toe-in a bit more after they're worn in. 5) The most important, if you listen to crappy recordings don't buy Klipsch. If you think old rock & roll greatest hit CDs are awesome and all of the music you've downloaded from iTunes is top notch (you gullible, deaf nimrod) don't buy Klipsch. The shrillness, brightness and smearing often accompanying such sources will sound hideous through Klipsch product. 5B) If you're using Klipsch with the proper solid state equipment be prepared to be super selective about source material to avoid brightness, or listen at low, background levels because 6) Klipsch Legacy models excel at micro detail and micro dynamics EVEN at low volumes compared to most other brands. Klipsch cabinets are made in the USA, the rest is Chinese
The only horn style speaker I'd be interested is via JBL. Of the Klipsch speakers, it seems the Forte IV are the most balanced and with the right gear and or in the right room, many like them.
Love your channel even more now that you took the speaker out and showed the inner workings. I always take my audio gear apart and look at the inside. Of course that is why I can't have anything good. Very afraid I will ruin my stuff. As I have done in the past. At least I am not very proud of myself!
I don't think they suck, I think lots of audio enthusiasts confuse the better higher end models. With the generic budget colorful klipsch speakers out there. Klipsch made some really good speakers. I had the lascalas on a jadis orchestra tube amp about 15 years ago. I don't miss them, but I do not remember them being build to be refined. Had fun with them.. I always used felt, to line the horns with it would temper them a little (little less amplitude from the source) worth a shot for whomever it concerns
100% correct about poor recordings! So many of my CD's went into the trash. Mostly 80's rock, a lot of which was compressed and unlistenable. Excellent and thoughtful review BTW. You have yourself a new subscriber
Sadly many pop music CDs are very compressed and utilize many effects. You can hear those issues more clearly on many high quality speakers. Still, if I like the tunes, I listen to them anyway and enjoy the ignore the defects. That's better than listening to crappy speakers that take the soul out of every recording.
I Love my Forte IIIs...they’re fun speakers. Lively, dynamic and can get the party started. That said I upgraded to Tekton Encores and lemme tell ya: THATS when I became romanced by such a Beautiful sound that continues to enchant.
@@gurdyman1 LOL! Welcome to the club! In the end, it's worth it! Their time estimate was half of what it took to finally deliver my Tekton speakers and yet I am grateful to have such an unparalleled sound experience in my living room!
Everyone that listens to my Klipsch Chorus IIs / Academy (all upgraded with Bob Crites crossover's and diaphrams), with RP250S surrounds and RP500SA loves the sound, some even hunted their own down (like my father when he listened to my Quartet setup...he inherited his Chorus IIs).
Prolly not first to point this out, but big difference between the Heritage line and the mass market stuff. I want a big, dynamic speaker.....have become convinced only way to get anywhere close to live sound. But torn between these and offerings from Tekton. Hey Jay......dig the new 'do. Looks good on ya man.
I'm poor and only have the 8000f and well... I LOVE THEM and yes direct them straight into the room no or just a little toe. And when you fire up a atmos movie get ready to be blown away.
Try toe in with speakers crossing in front of listening position. Depending on room, up to a few feet. Reduces brightness and can yield a very holographic presentation
Nice review, Wolverine. 😉😏 Wait, AND the eyebrows? 😆🌷👍 Haha. 1,8k likes! 🤩 I had a pair of consumer level Klipsch which were as big as the Fortes. Too big for that little living room. But I’ve got more space now! 😁
Speakers are a personal thing. What one set sounds to one person may not sound great to someone else. I have a pair of Klipsch Forte IIs which I love but there are days when I am working in my garage where I have an old cassette deck plugged into a low level Sherwood receiver and a pair of JBL indoor outdoor speakers and it sounds really good.
I was sitting back reflecting and listening to Conwall II's and a MP 301 tube amp thinking that in 1960 a person could have Cornwalls and a tube amp. Sixty years later we are still listening to almost the same equipment. Think about it.
Cool glad they've improved over the years. I always wanted a pair as a kid. Then about 10 years ago got some . Soon after found out I would simply turn it off after a couple hours from fatigue.
They may have improved, but the data on Audio Science Review suggests they have yet to make a competent speaker. They are all ragged peaky messes when it comes to frequency response.
@@stevenswall Nonsense. The Forte IV is one of the best engineered loudspeakers. Look up the first version in Stereo Review, a magazine that actually measured speakers for adhering to sound engineering principles. In dynamics, distortion, in-room bass response, etc, nothing given a similar cabinet size beats it. Proof is in the pudding. I got my IVs after upgrading my IIs. That's how live music sounds
@@quantumdecoherence1289 My Genelec 8260 has better controlled dispersion, flatter frequency response, modern non-lossy crossovers with less distortion, less diffraction, and go to 113dB and extend to 18hz in room with room correction to flatten out the bass. Sure, the Heresy goes to 116 continuous... Which isn't dynamics. The Heresy IV cannot provide excellent in room bass because even if it compensated for bass issues, placement and listening position will be different so it won't be as ideal as it could be. I'd be open to a blind test though. Not sure if they have show rooms in Utah.
@@quantumdecoherence1289 Price wise, a Kali IN-5 and woofer would compete with one of these. Or a Devialet Phantom which might be more dynamic, since it analyzes the incoming audio and matches the output.
I just picked up a first generation pair of Fortes and immediately noticed the same thing about them making bad recordings sound bad and great recording sound great.
Klipsch recommends having them toed in with the tweeters crossing in front of you, i have the Cornwalls and they sound the best when toed in like this.
1001 likes and I will give away a Klipsch Forte IV to one of the subscribers that liked the video
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So the winner gets a single speaker? Cool I guess. lol.
@@Roof_Pizza I will make sure you get a single speaker if you win :)
I have a feeling you would enjoy the Exposure 2510 amplifier with these speakers
@@Jayiyagi Hi, just 1 quick question, will you ever be reviewing the Willsenton R800i?
@@warfam_clan6933 yes
I'm absolutely addicted to my forte II with mods. I listen for ten or more hours a day. During covid-19. Zero fatigue. I run a vintage marantz 2285b. Bliss.
I was a proud owner of a pair of Heresy II when I was young like you, and really appreciate your approach to reviews, especially in this "Klipsch dilemma" that splits in two, from decades, the audiophile people. Great job, Jay!
One of the best Klipsch reviews I've seen. Well Done dude.
Jay I’m 64 year old guy great to a young guys perspective. Stay true to your self despite what the naysayers are saying
I really like how you clearly outlined the sound of Horn/Klipsch speakers and made clear that many horn speakers nowadays sound way different than what most people think, i.e. better.
I hope your video is enough to make some people curious about the sound of Klipsch speakers and maybe even gets some people who don't like Horn speakers to give them another shot and just listen to a modern good Klipsch speaker.
I myself haven't owned a Klipsch speaker in quite a long time and was thinking about it the other night, so maybe I'll make the call right now :)
Thanks for all the informative, as well as, entertaining videos! Keep up the good work!
I’m only sorry I didn’t see your video a lot earlier than this. Thank you for a video that is easy to follow and understand, and presenting the fundamentals for a novice like me. It’s taken me 73 years to find someone to explain all the things I’ve noticed but never been able to define before. Well done, and thanks again!
I'm here for the win Jay! From one of your fellow lake bros. Minnesota thru to Ontario... Reppin' the invincible Great Lake Empire !!
Omg if I won those forte 4’s I would absolutely cry. I’ve wanted to hear something from the heritage line for quite some time now. Just out of my price range. But I’ve been listening to klipsch for about a decade and I’m 29.
I have been looking at Speakers for a while now and today I have Mirage Om-7 speakers and have been looking at Klipsch Forte IV for a while. And now i become even more interested in that speakers.
Good review.
Roy Delgado is doing great things at Klipsch. Nice review, although i would have liked to see more of a comparison to the CWIV and the HIV if you've heard a pair. That's 3 different price ranges and size ranges for people to consider in the non-fully-horn loaded heritage lineup
I loved this review!!! Insightful and entertaining!! Thanks.I'm 66yrs. old and my current 2 channel system is The Heresy 4s and Naim unity Atom with a Definitive Sub. I absolutely love the sound I get in my listening space. And placement with these speakers is EVERYTHING with these also. Thanks keep up the good work!!
Jay great review. What a great gesture to give these away! Keep up the good work!
I own Cornwall IV's and if you would've told me 10 years ago that I would I would've laughed. I've owned Maggies, Vandersteen, Thiel, Spica, Dahlquist, ESS, Spendor and Manu more. Nothing has provided a more enjoyable sound as have the CW's. Your review is one of the best Heritage reviews I have seen. Well done indeed!
Haha. You and Steve Guttenberg. 😁😎
Wow. That’s saying a lot!
Very cool! That list contains radically different designs that engage the room very differently. Enjoy!!!
Nice to see a bigger set of speakers on your channel. Well done.
Klipsck LaScala is one of the best speakers ever made, hands down. They are also so beautiful!!
I had one on a jadis orchestra tube very nice. About 16 years ago now .
After over 20 years of being into audio, the Forte IV are the first Klipsch speakers that I’ve liked enough to buy. Also wound up liking vintage late 90’s Rotel integrated amp I have. The slightly rolled highs on vintage amps matched well for me. Only thing I noticed with the Forte’s they can be powered with low wattage but become much more dynamic with more power, my old Rotel is 250 watts per channel, AB, might have something to do with their peak power rating being so high at 400 watts. Tried my tube amp and many other solid states including Naim and Chord, liked the vintage AB solid state best.
The big Klipsch Heritage speakers and McIntosh are a match made in heaven
I am in love with the heritage series, especially the Cornwall IVs. They are the aural equivalent of a hot rod: brutish, American, exciting, engaging. You don't feel neutral about them. Me? I'm obsessed.
How do they compare directly with the forte iv?
@@Artcore103 Paducah Home Theater has a video with the comparison of the Forte IV and the Cornwall IV.
Really thoughtful and informative
video. Way beyond most all "Reviewers." Won't be long before the rest are going this deep.
Congratulations Sir.
I'm a Klipsch fan thanks for sharing your experience and opinions
Great review!!! I just listened to your Cornwall Iv review and then this one again and my choice is definitely the Forte IV! I was going to spend money on something less expensive but I am going to wait and get these!!! Thanks
forte 2 are much better
Jay you are an absolutely right on the money buddy. I have a set of Klipsch Chorus and I just went to my music room and pointed them maybe a bit more than slightly towards the room and WOW WOW WOW.
Klipsch Chorus ftw!
Best most entertaining review you have done !!! Great job and spot on with the Forte 4s !
I'd like Klipsch a lot. I have a pair of Cornwall III and I love it. Big realism and live performance. But they demands to adjust to your room accurately; so if you will do it, you will enjoy them so much!
Again, solid work! Good relevant content, conveyed via ever increasing production quality.
Digging this, keep it up.
I have two different systems in my home one with Cornwalls the other Heresy's .They sound different one like being in a studio, the other like being in a music venue. I will always be a Klipsch man !!
Jay I must say very generous of you..I never had the pleasure to listen to the IV's. I've heard the II and older. yes definitely that concert sound naturally do to horns being used in live music. They just didn't have the mid-bass I enjoy. Can't wait to hear the IV's. Great Review. Keeping it real..
Klipsch and horn speakers in general bring a unique level of realism that other designs don't have. And today's Klipsch speakers are much more refined and forgiving than they've been in the past. And with so many low power tube amps on the market now, their high sensitivity is a nice bonus.
All good points. Only a few watts of tube power & you get wonderfully vivid sounding speaker that's plenty loud enough for home listening scenarios. The Forte IV gives the listener a lot of that room filling La Scala sound at a decent price.
Most Klipsch speakers are Big Box store/budget. Not exactly the customers of finicky tube amps.
Yes, horns and tubes are both wonderful and very realistic. It goes without saying, ya gotta learn what your room sounds like, which takes some practice.
@@Roof_Pizza most big box stores aren't klipsch heritage dealers. It's a separate line
I have a horn rig at home (Bill Fitzmaurice Omnitop 12) and haven't heard klipsch speakers but am expecting a similar sound with the "rough edges" filed out as I have to EQ the Bill Fitzmaurice quite a bit. I have also played with Eminence APT80 tweeters and they do clean and powerful well in a multi way setup. Paper cone tweeters sound like RUclips in comparison. They are not a background speaker as the highs are crisp. You can soften the highs with a grille or equaliser. I happen to like this sound. I want to hear the finger snaps and bass twang. I find some speakers a bit boring (vintage KEF passive radiator design I had) where it sounds like the tweeters are barely on - or they are buried behind some laundry.
Nice review! I started out my Klipsch journey with Forte 1s and loved them! I sold them for LaScalas. Even better, but much lower WAF!
Love your reviews!!!! I am so close to pulling trigger on Forte IV
You are getting pretty good at this reviewing, I'm enjoying them more and more :-)
I own a Klipsch KG 5.2 and RF7 III and seriously considering purchasing a pair of these to add to the collection! Very informative review.
Great vid review. I’ve been considering Klipsch for a while, might have to jump in....
Compliments for a great review ! No complicated adjectives used to describe the experience which no one understand other than the reviewer himself.
I own a pair of Forte III and really enjoy them, and I think that these just take the game forward.
So many people complain about build quality of Klipsch, with no internal bracing, inadequate internal insulation, cheaper crossover components, and without any separate chambers for mids & lows (like their own reference floorstanders RF 7 III), but the Forte ‘s still sound great. Really great.
They use compression drivers for the mids and tweeter. Why would they need separate chambers for mids and lows (or highs) when the horns are already isolated from the woofer due to the fact they are horn-loaded.
@@frankvee There could be coatings for the horns themselves, extra bracing that does not rattle itself, more expensive parts, thicker cabinets, special wiring, for a slightly better sound, but the price per speaker would easily go up $500.00 per speaker. This is where DIY mods come into play.
I would like to see a premium version for each speaker. I don't know if klipsch is willing to do that. It would require lots more manufacturing space and parts inventory.
The lively editing style of this video rivals the dynamic presentation of the Forte IV! I really like your tips on setup and equipment matching. As a horn lover, I wonder how the Volti Razz speaker compares to the Klipsch Heritage line. Hopefully you can hear Volti speakers some day.
I have Cornwall IV and Razz BUT havent done an A/B yet. The Cabinets and parts used to make the Volti are superior in every way. Wont be surprised if the RAZZ are better bang for the buck.
Great video Jay. I have an old pair of kg2s; after 33 years I still swear by them. I like vinyl - few other speakers can handle vinyl recordings like Klipsch.
That is a very good description and comparison. This really helps with a purchasing decision.
This review literally made me laugh out loud. You just got a new fan 👍
Very good job of the description of the forte five. Good information!
Love the Forte IV!!! Old school look with modern sound.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts (especially with regard to integrity at low volume playback).
In my area exposing (easily appraisable) new bought things on sidewalk would be way too dangerous as I already made my experience with burglary within few days afterwards. I usually use black stretch film to hide the contents of whatever I bring in or out. The way to go is talking to delivery guys and apply that black film instantly prior to unloading. In your neighbourhood might be unnecessary, lucky You!
BTW Steve Guttenberg just acquired a taste for driving the Cornwalls with high end Class D (e/g Mola Mola). As usual, there are more paramenters or "adjusting screws" to consider and even more of trial-and-error experiments to bear, like it or not.
Really great video. I love when you are throwing away your CDs and listening at night on the floor. I can relate in my apartment. Hehe.
This has to be the best review of this speaker... ever. Well done!
I'm neither a lover nor hater of Klipsch. I have a pair of bookshelf Klipsch, used them for a time with TV setup, now they sit on a shelf. For day to day music listening I prefer my AR tower speakers.
I love Klipsch speakers, I have 4 sets of all size ... I don't understand haters... too bad .... I don't hate anything that plays music! I love my RP 8000F .... they make a good clean jazz record sound like you are in the room with the artists.. I have a sort of older set of RB 75 ... you may not know them ... early 2000s ... they are remarkable and still sell very well on Ebay! If you ever get to hear them I would enjoy hearing what you think. Very well done young man... as always!
Understand I’ve been Rocking k horns up front and Belle’s Klipsch speakers 🔊 on B-channel in back. Together they are live entertainment. For over thirty years I’ve been Rocking ! You can completely rebuild a Klipsch speaker in about 1/2 an hour. Quality is superb. It’s like having a old friend taking a walk with you.❤
Really enjoyed this review, Jay!
Quality and price choice, one of the best in her price range ,not expecting she can beat the B&W 802 or same or higher level speakers
Glad you mentioned recording quality!!!
Nice review! I will be auditioning these ASAP!
I Love Forte MK4s! I have been saving up for a pair ever since the MK4s came out. They WILL be my "end game" speakers!
forte 2 are much better
K-Horns
Now you just need to convince Pass Labs to let you review the XA25 with these :p
The XA-25 does sound great with the Klipsch Fortes. No doubt. I found though that tubes (namely Line Magnetic LM-508ia) are quite a match!
Surely Steve Gutenberg did that
@@matticeverhoeven6539 He did indeed with his Cornwall IVs but still would love to see Jay's thoughts.
Love the Klipsch sound. Legendary. The dynamics are more realistic than 95% of speakers. Not the most accurate but they sound like real live music more than most others.
Hello Jay, could you revisit your Forte IV AFTER having them for a year??? Do you still have them? Please expand on your experience please!
A great blue-collar review, thank you my friend.
i just want to say this Jay, thank god you have this channel. The other where we had the three M, was just not in your league. Love your videos. Keep it up.
Outstanding review!
I have a set of heresy 2 from the mid 80's and am in the process of upgrading the tweeters.
I have a pair of Heresy iii’s and Forte iii’s. Love both.
I recently heard a pair being run with a Peachtree amp and Bluesound Node 2i. They were nearly against the wall in a line of speakers and a few feet from each other. I listened to them about a minute of so and told the salesman I was finished listening - they were dull, flat, not engaging at all, no dynamics. This was just after hearing the KLH Model 5’s and Wharfdale Littons, which both sounded much better. After hearing nothing like anyone has described for the Fortes, I would second the notion that placement and equipment matter a whole lot with these.
I would love to be cool and dis them, but I really do like Klipsch. I just can't afford the higher end ones. Lol
THANK YOU! Finally, a thorough Klipsch Legacy overview/review. 1) Spend huge money on audiophile grade solid state gear or use them with tubes, at least a tube preamp if you're using a solid state amp. (Paul Klipsch originally designed for small tube preamp and tube amp systems). If you want lively with solid state go to the Tektron moab (approx same money). 2) Clap your hands hard late at night in your listening room, if it's a ringy, echo bitch don't get Klipsch or treat the room. 3) Other than K-Horns, move them away from the wall behind them, 3 to 5 feet. Keep em' away from side walls and/or treat the damn room. 4) Adjust the toe-in to taste, you can toe-in a bit more after they're worn in. 5) The most important, if you listen to crappy recordings don't buy Klipsch. If you think old rock & roll greatest hit CDs are awesome and all of the music you've downloaded from iTunes is top notch (you gullible, deaf nimrod) don't buy Klipsch. The shrillness, brightness and smearing often accompanying such sources will sound hideous through Klipsch product. 5B) If you're using Klipsch with the proper solid state equipment be prepared to be super selective about source material to avoid brightness, or listen at low, background levels because 6) Klipsch Legacy models excel at micro detail and micro dynamics EVEN at low volumes compared to most other brands. Klipsch cabinets are made in the USA, the rest is Chinese
Love your style man, great review.
I have a Klipsch RM 600 M, and love it!
The only horn style speaker I'd be interested is via JBL. Of the Klipsch speakers, it seems the Forte IV are the most balanced and with the right gear and or in the right room, many like them.
Love your channel even more now that you took the speaker out and showed the inner workings. I always take my audio gear apart and look at the inside. Of course that is why I can't have anything good. Very afraid I will ruin my stuff. As I have done in the past. At least I am not very proud of myself!
I don't think they suck, I think lots of audio enthusiasts confuse the better higher end models. With the generic budget colorful klipsch speakers out there.
Klipsch made some really good speakers. I had the lascalas on a jadis orchestra tube amp about 15 years ago. I don't miss them, but I do not remember them being build to be refined. Had fun with them..
I always used felt, to line the horns with it would temper them a little (little less amplitude from the source) worth a shot for whomever it concerns
Still love my Klipsch Quartets, same set up.3 way with passive radiator.
100% correct about poor recordings! So many of my CD's went into the trash. Mostly 80's rock, a lot of which was compressed and unlistenable. Excellent and thoughtful review BTW. You have yourself a new subscriber
Poor recordings sound bad on every thing but if I like the tunes I listen anyway. Enjoy the Forte IVs!
Sadly many pop music CDs are very compressed and utilize many effects. You can hear those issues more clearly on many high quality speakers. Still, if I like the tunes, I listen to them anyway and enjoy the ignore the defects. That's better than listening to crappy speakers that take the soul out of every recording.
I Love my Forte IIIs...they’re fun speakers. Lively, dynamic and can get the party started. That said I upgraded to Tekton Encores and lemme tell ya: THATS when I became romanced by such a Beautiful sound that continues to enchant.
Congratulations.
I would Iove to have those.
What amplifier do you use?
I ordered a pair of Lores 2 1/2 months ago. Having trouble being patient...
@@gurdyman1 LOL! Welcome to the club! In the end, it's worth it! Their time estimate was half of what it took to finally deliver my Tekton speakers and yet I am grateful to have such an unparalleled sound experience in my living room!
forte 2 are much better
Always wanted to here the encores, look amazing! I hear they need space tho
:: ive had a pair of kg 1.5 and those look and sound great! That was the mid 90s, I can only imagine how the forté IVs sound.
I'm happy with 70TH Anniversary Heresy III and set amp 2a3.
Greetings from Croatia.
I have my Klipsch Forte 1 which I bought in 1989...my fortes' still rock the house for 32 years !!!
forte 2 are better
Don't worry about what others think. If your gear makes you smile that's all that counts
Everyone that listens to my Klipsch Chorus IIs / Academy (all upgraded with Bob Crites crossover's and diaphrams), with RP250S surrounds and RP500SA loves the sound, some even hunted their own down (like my father when he listened to my Quartet setup...he inherited his Chorus IIs).
Excellent review.
Like the focus on the placement...seems to be a theme. Thanks.
Looking like horns needs substantial rooms. Heard Cornwall in a very large open design house it sounded really good, great sounding system.
18:01 😆 This review is good and hilarious all at once. Really digging it.
You got me interested in Klipsch Forte IV 🙂
Nice review,every thing we want to know about this speakers,in the end I desire go to hi-Fi shop and try them😎😎😎
Holy crap 🤣, “she will beat the shit out of me”
Cornwall’s and LaScala’s are my fav. I love my Klipsch speakers.
Subscribed and liked, love those Forte IV’s
Love Klipsch. Also didn’t appreciate them at first. Gotta be honest, I even picked up a set of blue tooth bookshelf speakers and I love them!
Wonderful & Practical Presentation
The tweeter waveguide did not change from the Forte 3, it was the tweeter phase plug that was revised.
Prolly not first to point this out, but big difference between the Heritage line and the mass market stuff. I want a big, dynamic speaker.....have become convinced only way to get anywhere close to live sound. But torn between these and offerings from Tekton. Hey Jay......dig the new 'do. Looks good on ya man.
Great review as usual.
Nice Review in all Aspects !
I'm poor and only have the 8000f and well... I LOVE THEM and yes direct them straight into the room no or just a little toe. And when you fire up a atmos movie get ready to be blown away.
Try toe in with speakers crossing in front of listening position. Depending on room, up to a few feet. Reduces brightness and can yield a very holographic presentation
Nice review, Wolverine. 😉😏
Wait, AND the eyebrows? 😆🌷👍
Haha. 1,8k likes! 🤩
I had a pair of consumer level Klipsch which were as big as the Fortes. Too big for that little living room. But I’ve got more space now! 😁
What you say about the Forte is the same for the Chorus too. It too has a rear passive radiator so can’t be too close to the rear wall.
Speakers are a personal thing. What one set sounds to one person may not sound great to someone else. I have a pair of Klipsch Forte IIs which I love but there are days when I am working in my garage where I have an old cassette deck plugged into a low level Sherwood receiver and a pair of JBL indoor outdoor speakers and it sounds really good.
I listened to some recently, klipsch sparkle with details and presence
I was sitting back reflecting and listening to Conwall II's and a MP 301 tube amp thinking that in 1960 a person could have Cornwalls and a tube amp. Sixty years later we are still listening to almost the same equipment. Think about it.
Cool glad they've improved over the years. I always wanted a pair as a kid. Then about 10 years ago got some . Soon after found out I would simply turn it off after a couple hours from fatigue.
They may have improved, but the data on Audio Science Review suggests they have yet to make a competent speaker. They are all ragged peaky messes when it comes to frequency response.
@@stevenswall Nonsense. The Forte IV is one of the best engineered loudspeakers. Look up the first version in Stereo Review, a magazine that actually measured speakers for adhering to sound engineering principles. In dynamics, distortion, in-room bass response, etc, nothing given a similar cabinet size beats it. Proof is in the pudding. I got my IVs after upgrading my IIs. That's how live music sounds
@@quantumdecoherence1289 My Genelec 8260 has better controlled dispersion, flatter frequency response, modern non-lossy crossovers with less distortion, less diffraction, and go to 113dB and extend to 18hz in room with room correction to flatten out the bass. Sure, the Heresy goes to 116 continuous... Which isn't dynamics. The Heresy IV cannot provide excellent in room bass because even if it compensated for bass issues, placement and listening position will be different so it won't be as ideal as it could be.
I'd be open to a blind test though. Not sure if they have show rooms in Utah.
@@quantumdecoherence1289 Price wise, a Kali IN-5 and woofer would compete with one of these. Or a Devialet Phantom which might be more dynamic, since it analyzes the incoming audio and matches the output.
I just picked up a first generation pair of Fortes and immediately noticed the same thing about them making bad recordings sound bad and great recording sound great.
Klipsch recommends having them toed in with the tweeters crossing in front of you, i have the Cornwalls and they sound the best when toed in like this.