Learn 6 Finnish locative cases in 6 minutes! allative adessive ablative illative inessive elative
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2022
- Learn the 6 Finnish location cases in under 6 minutes.
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@7:32, sorry I meant to say "you wouldn't say 'olen kodilla' or 'for that matter olen kodissa' ", but I forgot the KPT rule and said "on the roof" (katolla) intead, whoops.
I got a bit confused, because as I say, I'M NOT FINNISH!😆
Anyway, I hope this helps new beginner learners demystify the six Finnish locative cases. It was mainly meant as revision for me and to help new learners. I don't pretend to be some linguistics guru or anything.
who would have thought that I finally understood these location cases from a non finnish. Thank you so much.
Thankyou so much for teaching the class .... Finally I understood it😊
Also, I did many takes for this video. During this take, I forgot to say that the surface at the top could equally be on the side, like a wall or it could also be the floor. It doesn't just refer to the top-most surface only. So if one is standing next to something, that would require the allative case.
Having said that, there are exceptions for different places. It's a bit like the distinction between saying at, on and in preopositions in English. In English we say "on a plane", but we don't mean we fly on top of the plane (outside). I can't even remember half of these in English myself now!
You missed to say that, regarding to vowel harmony, suffixes can also be with "ä" instead of "a", or "ö" instead of "o".
Thank you so much for making this . .. ☺️ God bless you
Nice job👍
So, in Finnish cases basically have the function of prepositions, without the changing of the word or its stem like in Russian.
Correct. They are not prefixes but postfixes.
@@learnalanguagewithleslie so, that’s how Finno-ugric languages work. I was always curious what was the logic behind the high amount of cases 😅 what is the most difficult part of Finnish grammar in your opinion?
@@amnbvcxz8650 I'm still somewhat of a beginner in Finnish. Maybe advanced beginner or lower intermediate. For some reason I do not find Finnish as difficult as expected. After learning Russian, it almost felt "easy". For example, Russian has three genders, for me one of the hardest parts to grasp about Russian (in practice) is that the "У" endings swap depending on the gender, for example dative masculine and accusative feminine both use the same "У" ending.🤯
Perhaps if I had skipped Russian and gone straight to Finnish it might have seemed a lot harder.
Finnish on the other hand seems to be more consistent.
Russian plural noun case endings are very different from singular noun case endings.
With Finnish, there is no gender. Also with Finnish, at least with these locative cases, plural cases more resemble their singular case case counterparts, they just include the letter "i" somewhere, that usually indicates plural.
If you understand how these locative cases work, and really they are not that difficult, then you are already half way there to understanding Finnish. It seems to me that remembering what the cases themselves are called (especially the locative cases) is harder than actually using them in practice, seriously.😅
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I find (at least watching television) that some of the cases are not used anywhere near as frequently as others. For instance, the last three 'marginal' cases are rarely used in modern Finnish. The comitative is usually replaced with the postposition kanssa (“with”) [just put the other word in genetive case] and the abessive is usually replaced with the preposition ilman (“without”) [just put the other word in the partitative case].
Probably the most difficult thing is knowing when to use partitive and when to use accusative.
I'll be completely honest here and admit that I still don't know when to do this.
One difficult thing is also called "consonant gradation" (or the KPT rule). When words are inflected, the word stem may change: consonants may disappear, be doubled, or be replaced with other consonants.😨Some of these changes can be 'predicted', but honestly I think most Finns just remember it based on repeated exposure to the language and what sounds/looks right. I imagine Finnish kids don't learn how to speak using KPT rule when they are young, they just copy.
I still haven't completely mastered this either, no. I have learned to know expect too much from yourself when learning languages, it's a slow process. Best not to try to be a perfectionist or you will drive yourself mad/crazy.
As I said, I don't pretend to know anything here, I'm not Finnish, or Russian, I'm not a 'linguist' either, so when I say "learn a language with leslie", it's more like learning with another student than learning with a teacher.😊
doesn’t talot mean also houses?
what is the diffeence
@@basssssson5359 Difference to what? Yes talot means houses... on their own.
I know its not intentional but this approach can be misleading. The cases are used for many purposes not just describing relative locations. Location is just one single aspect. Theres also an enormous amount of nuance..especially with verbs.
Your example "I am at home" is far from an exception and illustrates why you can't just apply cases willy nilly. You don't have free form to do what you want. Instead you have to learn the word+case combination=meaning.