Gabe Brown got me interested, then Greg Judy showed me how. Teddy Gentry is near enough to assure me that it all works right here with good genetics and proper management. I steered away from farming for years because everyone was going broke. NOW I'm looking for a retirement in grazing because I do have land and prefer working out of doors than anywhere else. I cannot wait to lease more land for expansion-when the animals can fund it.
I did just get the ATV--600# dry, add me (160) and some gear call it 1000#, that's divided by the surface area of the four. My truck weighs 8000#, so is putting down 2000 per tire on average--that's degenerative to pastures like 1400# cows are, especially if it's damp.
Didn’t Einstein say that the best invention ever was a blade of grass? Well maybe it was Edison: Until man duplicates a blade of grass, nature can laugh at his so-called scientific knowledge. Remedies from chemicals will never stand in favor compared with the products of nature, the living cell of the plant, the final result of the rays of the sun, the mother of all life.” - Thomas A. Edison
Joel Salatin talks about the benefits of keeping animals off the pasture in the winter because the manure doesn’t compost and fertilize, but instead leaches into the ground water or off gasses ammonia. How can I reconcile keeping animals out on winter stockpile with preserving as much of the fertility from the manure and urine as possible?
I'm no expert but in nature animals are outside all year, so i do think nature has ways of dealing with manure in winter. As I recall Joel Salatin always talk about the carbonatious diaper. Isn't grass residue and the carbon in the soil just that? So it might only hold true on badly managed pasture / soil.
@@SinandLerd Thank you for taking the time to answer 🙂 I don't think that's what Joel means because he did specifically talk about taking his cattle off pasture and putting them in the barn over winter. He also talked about the problem with waste over winter not being broken down immediately. It's cold. so the decomposers aren't as active. In the summer, I think you're correct, but Joel seemed to think winter was different.
@@thistles As far as i know the biggest reasons for putting cattle in a barn in winter are to prevent muddy pastures (depending on lots of things), loss of calves (depending on the calving season). Also Obviously everything is a little easier in a barn. Feeding Hey, Water etc. except clearing out the manure. Also the cattle get a little fatter in a barn. Back to the manure: When it's freezing outside the manure freezes as well and nothing happens to it. Then when it isn't frozen volatile compounds can be absorbed by carbon compounds on top or in the soil. At last as you mentioned the decomposers start their work on the non volatile stuff only when it's warm enough outside. Which is coincidentally the same time that the grass starts growing again. 😆 Another reason specifically to Joel is that he uses the manure as gardening soil.
Joel is a great guy who does wonderful farming, but I watch cattle graze through winter on fescue and stockpile from Canada to Mexico. And I'll do the same-in TN on KY31 and everything else that will grow from the seedbank.
For a lawsuit to make, the plantiff has to prove injury. Electric fences don't injure animals by design, so I cannot see any chance of an electric fence touching creating a big liability for those who use them. Also, for a person to touch any electric fence that is not on their property, they have to trespass. In most jurisdictions landowners are not held liable for the injuries of trespassers. ANY jurisdiction can be different, so the trick is to know yours when it comes to legal/liability issues. All that said doesn't mean some idiot client/lawyer pair might not file suit, but the courts are used to throwing out garbage. They do it every day. Another point: severity of injuries is usually approximated by medical expenses related to that injury. I've yet to hear of any medical procedure or Rx needed to fix the injuries of a hot wire touching--even when a kid urinates on one, no one goes to the ER. 🤣
Gabe Brown got me interested, then Greg Judy showed me how. Teddy Gentry is near enough to assure me that it all works right here with good genetics and proper management.
I steered away from farming for years because everyone was going broke. NOW I'm looking for a retirement in grazing because I do have land and prefer working out of doors than anywhere else. I cannot wait to lease more land for expansion-when the animals can fund it.
I did just get the ATV--600# dry, add me (160) and some gear call it 1000#, that's divided by the surface area of the four. My truck weighs 8000#, so is putting down 2000 per tire on average--that's degenerative to pastures like 1400# cows are, especially if it's damp.
Good stuff
Didn’t Einstein say that the best invention ever was a blade of grass?
Well maybe it was Edison:
Until man duplicates a blade of grass, nature can laugh at his so-called scientific knowledge. Remedies from chemicals will never stand in favor compared with the products of nature, the living cell of the plant, the final result of the rays of the sun, the mother of all life.”
- Thomas A. Edison
Joel Salatin talks about the benefits of keeping animals off the pasture in the winter because the manure doesn’t compost and fertilize, but instead leaches into the ground water or off gasses ammonia.
How can I reconcile keeping animals out on winter stockpile with preserving as much of the fertility from the manure and urine as possible?
I'm no expert but in nature animals are outside all year, so i do think nature has ways of dealing with manure in winter. As I recall Joel Salatin always talk about the carbonatious diaper. Isn't grass residue and the carbon in the soil just that? So it might only hold true on badly managed pasture / soil.
@@SinandLerd Thank you for taking the time to answer 🙂 I don't think that's what Joel means because he did specifically talk about taking his cattle off pasture and putting them in the barn over winter. He also talked about the problem with waste over winter not being broken down immediately. It's cold. so the decomposers aren't as active. In the summer, I think you're correct, but Joel seemed to think winter was different.
@@thistles As far as i know the biggest reasons for putting cattle in a barn in winter are to prevent muddy pastures (depending on lots of things), loss of calves (depending on the calving season). Also Obviously everything is a little easier in a barn. Feeding Hey, Water etc. except clearing out the manure. Also the cattle get a little fatter in a barn.
Back to the manure: When it's freezing outside the manure freezes as well and nothing happens to it. Then when it isn't frozen volatile compounds can be absorbed by carbon compounds on top or in the soil. At last as you mentioned the decomposers start their work on the non volatile stuff only when it's warm enough outside. Which is coincidentally the same time that the grass starts growing again. 😆
Another reason specifically to Joel is that he uses the manure as gardening soil.
Manure pile up by the barn does the same thing as far as offgassing and losing nutrients
Joel is a great guy who does wonderful farming, but I watch cattle graze through winter on fescue and stockpile from Canada to Mexico. And I'll do the same-in TN on KY31 and everything else that will grow from the seedbank.
For a lawsuit to make, the plantiff has to prove injury. Electric fences don't injure animals by design, so I cannot see any chance of an electric fence touching creating a big liability for those who use them.
Also, for a person to touch any electric fence that is not on their property, they have to trespass. In most jurisdictions landowners are not held liable for the injuries of trespassers. ANY jurisdiction can be different, so the trick is to know yours when it comes to legal/liability issues.
All that said doesn't mean some idiot client/lawyer pair might not file suit, but the courts are used to throwing out garbage. They do it every day.
Another point: severity of injuries is usually approximated by medical expenses related to that injury. I've yet to hear of any medical procedure or Rx needed to fix the injuries of a hot wire touching--even when a kid urinates on one, no one goes to the ER. 🤣