best 40 bucks ive ever spent on this dvd series. its amazing that you can drive down a deserted dirt road that use to be a transcontinental railroad and now almost all of it is gone. long live the milwaukee road!
Wow. I grew up in Harlowton in the 70's my father was a switchman for the Milwaukee. I remember folling my father throught the yards in Harlowton, I crossed that bridge several time with my father going to the roundhouse. Some of it is still there in Harlow, but a lot is gone. How cool to visit it again.....Those were the days.
Milwaukee Road is such a unique railroad being it was electrified. Always my favorite. I too wish the western division could have rails reload from Seattle for container freight. Wich is highly prifitable
As a kid i remember this line in the mountains while on holidays, it was great! Speeders would follow the Trains looking for fires, it was still old time railroading, "and it was Great"!!
I own the 3 volume set shown here. The final segment shows relics and remains of locations in the set decades after abandonment. Definitely worth the cost as many scenes are very obscure.
The death of cool railroads saddens me. I was in Montana a couple years ago and you can still see the old embankments and the museum at Harlowton. Wish I was around to have experienced it back in its hay day.
Looks like an awesome series. I biked the Hiawatha in Idaho last September. Wish I had a time machine to see this line in it's prime, but this will do for now!
Man,I miss the MILW. It was already gone when I was born, but as a kid I would still see their engines run through town pulling SOO Line trains. I still see the old orange and black SOO bandidt scheme on GP38-2 switchers in the West Milwaukee CP yard from time to time. The electric stuff is interesting and all, but I wish Pentrex would make a film about Milwaukee's diesel freight operations in the midwest.
it looks so funny to have seen the diesel cabs with the overhead electric...here in the east its either one or another. I can see how you miss those old milwaukee locs.
Here's why they ran diesels with electrics: There was a 300 mile gap in the electrified sections between Avery, ID and Othello, WA. The other reason as stated in this trailer, when this film was shot in 1974, electrification was at it's end and only a few electrics remained available for service. The box cabs were tired 60+ year old beasts. The electrical system was outdated and needed costly capital replacement. GE had a plan for new equip & locos, but Milw couldn't afford it...
A dream could be if you Rebuilt some parts of the Rocky Mountain division, electrified it and moved all milwaukee road equipment that´s left there (like the joe, the two boxcab halves, the bi-polar, the 261 locomotive and some hiawatha cars) and you could once again take the hiawatha ower the "rockies":-)
Hugo Kulas good idea and if I were you I would have made it as 25kv to have ACS-64s by simply piggybacking on SEPTA order to operate on that line do to them having slightly stronger power than a 3kv dc locomotive like the famous little Joe locomotives
Not sure what you are referring to..... but this film is based in Montana & Idaho, not Washington state.... some of the power for the system was generated from local hydropower dams, but most were from motor generator stations along the route.
One of the obstacles to electric traction in the US is the fact electrified railways pay more property tax than non electrified railways. After electric traction ended, Milwaukee's maintenance costs doubled and alas the railway is no more. Railways ought to get tax exemptions/breaks for this addition of value. Banks' involvment with the rail business stifles investment. They see it as a cost, not added value, an asset and long term cash saver.
You can see Diesel looking Electrics in South America (Chile). They look US made. After all, a Diesel-Electric is an Electric loco with it's own power plant.
Sounds like a bloody good rail adventure you had in Russia: I'm sure I'd love Russian Railways sure as I would love travelling across practically uninhabited areas of the USA on the electrified Milwaukee Road.
The Milwaukee Road should be Brought Back. Both Electrified sections restored, and both electric sections connected, and if possible, the Milwaukee Electric Grid should be connected to the other electric lines of the USA to create the first transcontinental Electric Line.
Wouldn't it be nice though, to see heavy freight moved by electric traction in the US: Powered by 100% US sourced energy: Coal, Hydro, Wind, and possibly solar! I'm English not American, but would love to see energy security like this not just in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but in the USA, too! It's not perverse, but patriotic! I just want to see a stable world: Don't all sane compassionate civilised and good people want this?
I love the what if's. There was a plan put forth by Ben Heineman of the North Western to merge the Milwaukee, the North Western and the Rock Island in the mid sixties. The RI-UP merger plan kept that from happening. The Milwaukee and the North Western came within inches of merger. Pulling the Rock Island in was doable. Heineman was a sharp businessman. He could have pulled it off. It would have been a cool railroad and would have made money.
best 40 bucks ive ever spent on this dvd series. its amazing that you can drive down a deserted dirt road that use to be a transcontinental railroad and now almost all of it is gone. long live the milwaukee road!
My Favorite Railroad Milwaukee Road
Wow.
I grew up in Harlowton in the 70's my father was a switchman for the Milwaukee. I remember folling my father throught the yards in Harlowton, I crossed that bridge several time with my father going to the roundhouse. Some of it is still there in Harlow, but a lot is gone. How cool to visit it again.....Those were the days.
Milwaukee Road is such a unique railroad being it was electrified. Always my favorite. I too wish the western division could have rails reload from Seattle for container freight. Wich is highly prifitable
I have that on DVD myself. Bought it at a rail festival last year.
As a kid i remember this line in the mountains while on holidays, it was great! Speeders would follow the Trains looking for fires, it was still old time railroading, "and it was Great"!!
I Already Have This On DVD!
I own the 3 volume set shown here. The final segment shows relics and remains of locations in the set decades after abandonment. Definitely worth the cost as many scenes are very obscure.
The death of cool railroads saddens me. I was in Montana a couple years ago and you can still see the old embankments and the museum at Harlowton. Wish I was around to have experienced it back in its hay day.
HOW CAN SOMEONE DISSLIKE THIS????
Looks like an awesome series. I biked the Hiawatha in Idaho last September. Wish I had a time machine to see this line in it's prime, but this will do for now!
Now I find steam locomotives and electric locomotives like the little joe. Are fascinating.
Man,I miss the MILW. It was already gone when I was born, but as a kid I would still see their engines run through town pulling SOO Line trains. I still see the old orange and black SOO bandidt scheme on GP38-2 switchers in the West Milwaukee CP yard from time to time. The electric stuff is interesting and all, but I wish Pentrex would make a film about Milwaukee's diesel freight operations in the midwest.
it looks so funny to have seen the diesel cabs with the overhead electric...here in the east its either one or another. I can see how you miss those old milwaukee locs.
Here's why they ran diesels with electrics: There was a 300 mile gap in the electrified sections between Avery, ID and Othello, WA. The other reason as stated in this trailer, when this film was shot in 1974, electrification was at it's end and only a few electrics remained available for service. The box cabs were tired 60+ year old beasts. The electrical system was outdated and needed costly capital replacement. GE had a plan for new equip & locos, but Milw couldn't afford it...
What a great railroad it was..
A dream could be if you Rebuilt some parts of the Rocky Mountain division, electrified it and moved all milwaukee road equipment that´s left there (like the joe, the two boxcab halves, the bi-polar, the 261 locomotive and some hiawatha cars) and you could once again take the hiawatha ower the "rockies":-)
Hugo Kulas good idea and if I were you I would have made it as 25kv to have ACS-64s by simply piggybacking on SEPTA order to operate on that line do to them having slightly stronger power than a 3kv dc locomotive like the famous little Joe locomotives
Go on Google Earth and take a trip over the abandoned Milwaukee. The old main line is surprisingly easy to find except in Tacoma.
Not sure what you are referring to..... but this film is based in Montana & Idaho, not Washington state.... some of the power for the system was generated from local hydropower dams, but most were from motor generator stations along the route.
@CascadeRail - Take a visit to the Cascade Rail Foundation in the South Cle Elum Depot.
My bf remembers when the milwaukee road Ran Through western wis
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Check out those "Little Joes". Too bad the Milwaukee Road is now a fallen flag. R.I.P. CMStP&PRR
Too bad it's all gone now.
Hydro? Grande Coulée Dam on the Columbia River?
One of the obstacles to electric traction in the US is the fact electrified railways pay more property tax than non electrified railways. After electric traction ended, Milwaukee's maintenance costs doubled and alas the railway is no more. Railways ought to get tax exemptions/breaks for this addition of value. Banks' involvment with the rail business stifles investment. They see it as a cost, not added value, an asset and long term cash saver.
You can see Diesel looking Electrics in South America (Chile). They look US made. After all, a Diesel-Electric is an Electric loco with it's own power plant.
EMD & GE exported a lot of diesels to South America and all over the world.. They could very well be from the US.
Sounds like a bloody good rail adventure you had in Russia: I'm sure I'd love Russian Railways sure as I would love travelling across practically uninhabited areas of the USA on the electrified Milwaukee Road.
Which part? The mountainous routes or the Little Joe electrics originally built for the Soviet Union?
The Milwaukee Road should be Brought Back. Both Electrified sections restored, and both electric sections connected, and if possible, the Milwaukee Electric Grid should be connected to the other electric lines of the USA to create the first transcontinental Electric Line.
Wouldn't it be nice though, to see heavy freight moved by electric traction in the US: Powered by 100% US sourced energy: Coal, Hydro, Wind, and possibly solar! I'm English not American, but would love to see energy security like this not just in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but in the USA, too! It's not perverse, but patriotic! I just want to see a stable world: Don't all sane compassionate civilised and good people want this?
The Milwaukee Road should've merged with Rock Island to compete with BN.
I love the what if's. There was a plan put forth by Ben Heineman of the North Western to merge the Milwaukee, the North Western and the Rock Island in the mid sixties. The RI-UP merger plan kept that from happening. The Milwaukee and the North Western came within inches of merger. Pulling the Rock Island in was doable. Heineman was a sharp businessman. He could have pulled it off. It would have been a cool railroad and would have made money.