I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
Great video. This is the kind of information that helps us perform well without overspending. Bosch has always been a good choice for my shop. There is so much content with Festool, im sure its all good stuff but, I cant justify the dough.
I'm interested in a sander and the Bosch GEX34-6N sounds perfect for me because vibrations are my biggest motivation for upgrading. I'm not against spending more but that would mean I put off the purchase, but it's nice that it's the lowest vibrations in this shootout. It's too bad the battery unit wasn't great. I have it and my biggest complaint is the vibrations. I appreciate the shootout.
Bosch is an excellent manufacturer that doesn’t get much love in the US. I am almost exclusively Bosch in my shop, and that is having used several Festools. Can’t go wrong with either brand 🤝🏽
as a novice my first powered sander is GEX18V-5N. I paid $164 shipped for new sander, open box 4.0 battery and open box charger. Project Farm has a rigorous 18V sander comparison and the GEX18V-5N stomped all competitors in all metrics. It hurts to pay the cordless premium but eliminating the risk of tripping on a power cord is worth quite a lot to me. Jonathan katz-moses has a rigorous robotic sandpaper test and based on those results I'm starting with a variety pack of Cubitron Mesh.
Nice video, I did a ton of research a few months ago comparing the get to the Rotex. Came to the same conclusion as you guys, festool is a little bit better but not at twice the price.
This was an excellent video. I would love to see a head to head comparison of the Bosch dust extractor vs a Festool version. For the price, Bosch gives you more capacity but I would love to see if the performance is similar because I’m totally thinking about getting a Bosch. And some sanders.
You can’t do a direct comparison between a 3mm & a 5mm sander. The 5mm will be more aggressive. You also can’t compare finishing with the same as a 3mm is a finishing sander.
So the new Bosch GET-75 is worse than the old 1250Devs? I just did a RO 150 comparison and stability is the same. Actually the only difference I can tell is it’s slightly quieter and a 3 yr warranty. It’s maybe worth $50 more but certainly not $375
So compare a festool ets 125 3mm stroke to bosch 6 in 5mm stroke. Of course bosch is faster. If they were both 6 inch sanders the bosch would still be faster.it like comparing the festool 3mm vs 5mm. 5mm larger stroke will always remove more material faster.
I came across this video researching the Bosch sanders, but I noticed something and just have to ask. Is that a gator skin apron? Because that’s just freaking awesome!
Here in Europe, both Bosch and Festool are revered brands. My parents have always used Bosch tools and although I would like to use Festool, I can't justify the cost of those products yet. I have the CTL-MIDI dust extractor and it does its job perfectly with all of my Bosch tools. I do have a Festool C18 cordless screwdriver/drill and it's my workhorse, it does it's job for almost six years now. Many thanks for this video, I was looking for a side-to-side comparison of Festool vs Bosch Professional and I appreciate your video.
such good video, i liked the sandpaper you used (as you probably also watched got the update from comparison) and a comprehensive testing schedule. just one question, the get 75-6 is not the same as Bosch GET 75-150 ? and i might have missed it, but what did you find out about the turbo respectively in 75, rotex ?
Thanks for this video. Very informative. I don't own a festool sander but have used one. I was impressed with how quiet the vacuum is. Can you tell me if the Bosch is as quiet? Thank you.
All the breands have strengths and weaknesses. For most of us heavy duty diyers with limited budgets (not retired dentists), if we want cordless, best to stick with one battery and compromise on our battery brand's weakness while benefiting from their strengths which most match our particular uses. Corded - we can be more picky with each tool. DeWalt corded is mostly rubbish now, unfortunately, which simplifies the options by excluding the whole brand. Makita has maintained the standard of their corded tools for, eg, diamond drills and circular saws. I always found Bosch drills and drivers disappoint - but that's cordless and some years ago. The Bosch sanders seem best for me - results and use match Festool (some better, some worse, some equal) and prices beat Festool.
Great video. My only suggestion would have been to specif7cally name model number AND use pop up captions each time you held or picked up a sander. "This" vs "that one" doesn't work if one is completely unfamiliar with any of the models OR is listening to this as a podcast and without watching screen. This is a common error on youtube as most videograohers arent professionally trained
Nice video and great woodwork. Bought the Bosch GSS 12V-13 a few weeks ago. It's by far not the most powerful, but it's a joy to use. Small, ergonomic and lightweight.
Trouble is Bosch just don’t last as long, there’s a cheapness feel to them & always something that brakes on themcompared to festool anyway. I had loads of Bosch tools over the years, but have sold them all for better brands.
I think oposite, need to have brains to spend money on some tool that worth every single penny you spend, believe me, you end up spending more fixing, and buying more bosh sanders while, i have my festool still running, and not problems at all, i tried to replace with 3M Xtract and in the beginning i though i got the best sander when i used the first time, after 8 hours of work went down and no turning back on, i bought from amazon and return policy expired after a month, they sent me a link to 3M xtract customer service and is a nightmare to get someone to answer, i beg to amazon and they did an exception and returned to them, that way i save my 500hundred and invested on festool or mirka the best
@@lukehanna7440 When it comes to cordless drills Bosch is right up there with the best. The 12V version gets used in formula 1 and my personal 10.8V (bought before they were called 12V) is still going strong after close to 10 years of (ab)use. So yeah, Bosch is legit just like Festool.
Imho, you can't beat Bosch when it comes to sanders. (And many other tools) I'm using their products on a daily basis for 23yrs now and i have yet to have 1 tool failing on me. Stay away from their cheapest line and you can't go wrong!
I need to agree - I got the large bosch with a vibration damping system - after the first start I could not believe how fast, vibration free and pleasant to use it is. Comparing to other sanders I had before it is insane, it vibrates NOTHING.
I do a lot of tables, I would still recommend the Bosch before the festool if you are someone getting started. The price point makes it a no brainer. They almost the same as festool, I’ll post an update video at the 2 year mark
Really great video. I have watching a bunch of these as I want to buy a great sander once without regrets and your video was probably the most helpful so far.
Great comparison! As I approach 50 vibration approaches the most important concern. I have the Bosch GET75 (love it!) thinking hard about that new BOSCH GEX34, next big sand job may be worth it.
yes you are correct. you can bolt a 6" pad on the 5" ets 125 3mm and save some money. but only on the 3mm version.. thats what I run! only takes a minute to switch out pads
Must be! Except it isn’t. For those of us that had to start with 5in orbitals but couldn’t afford a festool, Bosch is the way. Dewalt 5in is $70, Bosch $250, festool $400. Also have you seen our videos? We only have 2 sponsors, Bosch isn’t one of them lol
Go look at some videos of AvE taking Festool tools apart. Guess what, they are good but nothing special or magical as you fanboys like to think. Their cordless drills are ok but nothing to write home about either. I would go for a blue Bosch, Metabo or Milwaukee everytime.
I absolutely hate my bosch gex 125/150. The velcro is just shocking. I hardly use the thing cos it pisses me off so much. I've ordered replacement bases and within a few uses with brand new paper the sand paper just flies off. Once it starts doing this your buggered! To make matters worse the center bolt which holds the base on has a habit of coming loose quite frequently (dispite doing it up with a wrench), it rips through the sandpaper and gauges the crap out of your work piece. Genuinely shocking!!
Poor comparison video, you can’t compare sanders when you’re using different stroke rates, 3mm vs 5mm. The 5mm will always win. The higher the stroke the faster the removal rate will be, smaller stroke rate means slower but a finer finish
Nice Job. I have tons of air, so I have been using Dynabrades for a long time. So, I don't have much current experience with electric sanders, but your testing sure looks honest and professional.
Dynabrade and other comparable pneumatic sanders are the true top tier random orbitals that puts all electric sanders to shame. I can’t wait to try them out. We still need to upgrade compressors. Thanks for stopping by Charlie!
Strange. Either a faulty item you could have replaced or you're doing something wrong. Having said that... I had Bosch drills fail badly a few years back, as did many other folk, so I went Milwaukee which was on a good offer at the time.
If your Bosch broken in 1 year for sure you do something wrong, i have over 10 different bosch electrical tools, none of them broke in more than 3 years of use, some of them are over 5 years old!
Which model did you get? The only Bosch I have used that had any unintended issues was the el cheapo 5 inch Bosch from the big box store. The dust container got a crack in it and the lid had to be taped on.
I think you forgot about the 3rd most favourite tool to put to the test is Makita bo6050j???
I’ll do another one when I’m not so busy with orders 👍
Just got myself one( makita)
On the rotating mode, it's the beast !!!
Im curious to see how well the 6050j does against these as well!
I purchased a used one as the piece is a bit pricey, but the machine ruclips.net/user/postUgkxG6fbm3cHBd7CNTjk5D-dwYe9c9tCB9ZN has surpassed my expectations. We sand small parts by hand often, sized around 1"x1/2," and specifically look for a piece that's designed to be vertical. The motor has plenty of torque and great speed settings. The only inconvenience I had is that the disk measures 5" where we trim 6" stick-and-sand disks down easily by mounting it then cutting with a box cutter.
Refreshing to finally see an honest, non festool koolaid drinker on YT
Great video. This is the kind of information that helps us perform well without overspending. Bosch has always been a good choice for my shop. There is so much content with Festool, im sure its all good stuff but, I cant justify the dough.
I'm interested in a sander and the Bosch GEX34-6N sounds perfect for me because vibrations are my biggest motivation for upgrading. I'm not against spending more but that would mean I put off the purchase, but it's nice that it's the lowest vibrations in this shootout. It's too bad the battery unit wasn't great. I have it and my biggest complaint is the vibrations. I appreciate the shootout.
Bosch is an excellent manufacturer that doesn’t get much love in the US. I am almost exclusively Bosch in my shop, and that is having used several Festools. Can’t go wrong with either brand 🤝🏽
as a novice my first powered sander is GEX18V-5N. I paid $164 shipped for new sander, open box 4.0 battery and open box charger. Project Farm has a rigorous 18V sander comparison and the GEX18V-5N stomped all competitors in all metrics. It hurts to pay the cordless premium but eliminating the risk of tripping on a power cord is worth quite a lot to me. Jonathan katz-moses has a rigorous robotic sandpaper test and based on those results I'm starting with a variety pack of Cubitron Mesh.
Nice video, I did a ton of research a few months ago comparing the get to the Rotex. Came to the same conclusion as you guys, festool is a little bit better but not at twice the price.
Thank you for sharing 🔥🪵
This was an excellent video. I would love to see a head to head comparison of the Bosch dust extractor vs a Festool version. For the price, Bosch gives you more capacity but I would love to see if the performance is similar because I’m totally thinking about getting a Bosch. And some sanders.
You can’t do a direct comparison between a 3mm & a 5mm sander. The 5mm will be more aggressive. You also can’t compare finishing with the same as a 3mm is a finishing sander.
Bosch makes the best orbital sander when you think about the price and the results you can get from it.
So the new Bosch GET-75 is worse than the old 1250Devs? I just did a RO 150 comparison and stability is the same. Actually the only difference I can tell is it’s slightly quieter and a 3 yr warranty. It’s maybe worth $50 more but certainly not $375
*Hello Tony, great video!!!!
Do I need 2 different sanders to make a river table (1 for heavy removal and 1 for a fine finish ?)
Thanks!
Nope. You only need one in my opinion
good tip on that 6" bosch gex34 I may have to pick one up and turn my ets125 back into a true 5".
the difference in speed of the 5" and 6" is the 3mm and 5mm stroke the 5mm removes more material faster
Plus the extra inch helps remove material faster as well.
So compare a festool ets 125 3mm stroke to bosch 6 in 5mm stroke. Of course bosch is faster. If they were both 6 inch sanders the bosch would still be faster.it like comparing the festool 3mm vs 5mm. 5mm larger stroke will always remove more material faster.
Exactly 100%
I came across this video researching the Bosch sanders, but I noticed something and just have to ask. Is that a gator skin apron? Because that’s just freaking awesome!
Festool is quality kit, that few can afford. Bosch at least try to hit various wallets. But different timbers will render different reflections.
Here in Europe, both Bosch and Festool are revered brands. My parents have always used Bosch tools and although I would like to use Festool, I can't justify the cost of those products yet. I have the CTL-MIDI dust extractor and it does its job perfectly with all of my Bosch tools. I do have a Festool C18 cordless screwdriver/drill and it's my workhorse, it does it's job for almost six years now. Many thanks for this video, I was looking for a side-to-side comparison of Festool vs Bosch Professional and I appreciate your video.
Thank you for a great video!
do you think you can put a 5 inch pad on that 34-6
such good video, i liked the sandpaper you used (as you probably also watched got the update from comparison) and a comprehensive testing schedule.
just one question, the get 75-6 is not the same as Bosch GET 75-150 ?
and i might have missed it, but what did you find out about the turbo respectively in 75, rotex ?
Bosch “rotex” is almost as good as the festool rotex however it isn’t as stable on turbo mode.
I’d recommend the Bosch over the Festool still
Thanks for this video. Very informative. I don't own a festool sander but have used one. I was impressed with how quiet the vacuum is. Can you tell me if the Bosch is as quiet? Thank you.
super helpful!
but I hear about Bosch not doing a good job in DUST Collection. I am talking specifically about the GEX34-6. Compared to Festool ETS EC
All the breands have strengths and weaknesses. For most of us heavy duty diyers with limited budgets (not retired dentists), if we want cordless, best to stick with one battery and compromise on our battery brand's weakness while benefiting from their strengths which most match our particular uses. Corded - we can be more picky with each tool. DeWalt corded is mostly rubbish now, unfortunately, which simplifies the options by excluding the whole brand. Makita has maintained the standard of their corded tools for, eg, diamond drills and circular saws. I always found Bosch drills and drivers disappoint - but that's cordless and some years ago. The Bosch sanders seem best for me - results and use match Festool (some better, some worse, some equal) and prices beat Festool.
Great video. My only suggestion would have been to specif7cally name model number AND use pop up captions each time you held or picked up a sander. "This" vs "that one" doesn't work if one is completely unfamiliar with any of the models OR is listening to this as a podcast and without watching screen. This is a common error on youtube as most videograohers arent professionally trained
Nice video and great woodwork. Bought the Bosch GSS 12V-13 a few weeks ago. It's by far not the most powerful, but it's a joy to use. Small, ergonomic and lightweight.
You'd have to have more money than brains to get the Festool instead of the Bosch.
Trouble is Bosch just don’t last as long, there’s a cheapness feel to them & always something that brakes on themcompared to festool anyway. I had loads of Bosch tools over the years, but have sold them all for better brands.
I think oposite, need to have brains to spend money on some tool that worth every single penny you spend, believe me, you end up spending more fixing, and buying more bosh sanders while, i have my festool still running, and not problems at all, i tried to replace with 3M Xtract and in the beginning i though i got the best sander when i used the first time, after 8 hours of work went down and no turning back on, i bought from amazon and return policy expired after a month, they sent me a link to 3M xtract customer service and is a nightmare to get someone to answer, i beg to amazon and they did an exception and returned to them, that way i save my 500hundred and invested on festool or mirka the best
@@lukehanna7440Bosch is legit you're not
@@glennm449 😂
@@lukehanna7440 When it comes to cordless drills Bosch is right up there with the best. The 12V version gets used in formula 1 and my personal 10.8V (bought before they were called 12V) is still going strong after close to 10 years of (ab)use. So yeah, Bosch is legit just like Festool.
Festool 5” 3mm stroke vs a 6” 5mm stroke Bosch really! 30% more being sanded and 5mm big difference! from beginning to end terrible comparison 👎
Thanks for the feedback! Your in the minority though 🤷 plus you must of missed the 6in
@@TNTINDUSTRIESLLC majority don’t know if you did a good comparison
Yep poor comparison
Exactly, this guys hopeless , trying to compare the two with different sanding strokes is just plain stupid.
Unless I was a professional furniture maker banking thousands a month, no way I’d pay festool prices!
No surprise seeing how new and shiny the Bosch sanders were. I guess Christmas came early. You can’t trust any review anymore on YT.
Imho, you can't beat Bosch when it comes to sanders. (And many other tools) I'm using their products on a daily basis for 23yrs now and i have yet to have 1 tool failing on me. Stay away from their cheapest line and you can't go wrong!
I need to agree - I got the large bosch with a vibration damping system - after the first start I could not believe how fast, vibration free and pleasant to use it is. Comparing to other sanders I had before it is insane, it vibrates NOTHING.
BOSCH GEX34 have 4 mm orbit, not 5 mm.
Ty🫡
woah dude its about time you guys sell T-shirts! Ordered a Hemp shirt! They nicer than the standard cotton?
Both are top quality. Hemp is just a bit more expensive
I like the hemp ones better!
To be fair, on the second test. The 5mm stroke is a far bigger advantage in speed over the 6 inch pad.
Try getting parts and pads for bosch compared to festool, ive had all but festool is truly worth it if you do a lot of tables
I do a lot of tables, I would still recommend the Bosch before the festool if you are someone getting started. The price point makes it a no brainer. They almost the same as festool, I’ll post an update video at the 2 year mark
Ughhh, the Bosch sanding pads are readily available. Hell Klingspore sells them, so I can order them when I buy sand paper...
Bosch wins if your keeping most of the Bosch sanders.
280? It's like 40 dollars more now
Really great video. I have watching a bunch of these as I want to buy a great sander once without regrets and your video was probably the most helpful so far.
Is that hose antistatic?
Great comparison! As I approach 50 vibration approaches the most important concern. I have the Bosch GET75 (love it!) thinking hard about that new BOSCH GEX34, next big sand job may be worth it.
I think I’m getting that GEX
Do Festool and Bosch make wood scrapers with dust collection? 🥸
It would be interesting to know the country of manufacture of which sander since its makes a big difference in price.
Worth a google if it’s important to ya
Super good video. I have wanted a high end sander for a long time. This video will help me make that decision
I bought the gex34 last night, I’m confident it will live up to the expectations in this video
How has the Bosch been? I'm between this and the festool ETS ec 150 and I'm leaning towards the Bosch
Do you mind telling me how the dust port attaches to your vac? Did you need a adapter to hook up to a festool vac?
Amazon sell a 15ft hose kit for $20 or so.
Not a fan of Bosch grits. Wondering if you found an aftermarket paper that lines up for better dust collection
3m cubitron
Thank you I’m going give that a shot! Much appreciated
what kind of vacuum do you use with the bosch
A 5hp rigid. There is a vacuum hose hit for like $20-$30 that has all the attachments plus a 15ft hose.
Nice
Well done guys
No Bosch 5" ROS20VSC /ROS20VSK
Guess not
How are your orgin boots now?
Still working :)
yes you are correct. you can bolt a 6" pad on the 5" ets 125 3mm and save some money. but only on the 3mm version.. thats what I run! only takes a minute to switch out pads
Good comment!!
Fantastic
Thank you! Tried to make it a practical comparison
Must be a paid for video as Festool is FAR superior to Bosch.
Must be! Except it isn’t. For those of us that had to start with 5in orbitals but couldn’t afford a festool, Bosch is the way. Dewalt 5in is $70, Bosch $250, festool $400.
Also have you seen our videos? We only have 2 sponsors, Bosch isn’t one of them lol
Don’t be a dick. You arnt a professional woodworker so they know more than you. It wouldn’t hurt to shut up and listen
@@TNTINDUSTRIESLLC Anyone with half a brain knows you talk Bullsh*t.
Go look at some videos of AvE taking Festool tools apart. Guess what, they are good but nothing special or magical as you fanboys like to think. Their cordless drills are ok but nothing to write home about either. I would go for a blue Bosch, Metabo or Milwaukee everytime.
😅🤣😆@@iliketoast-q9b
I absolutely hate my bosch gex 125/150. The velcro is just shocking. I hardly use the thing cos it pisses me off so much. I've ordered replacement bases and within a few uses with brand new paper the sand paper just flies off. Once it starts doing this your buggered! To make matters worse the center bolt which holds the base on has a habit of coming loose quite frequently (dispite doing it up with a wrench), it rips through the sandpaper and gauges the crap out of your work piece. Genuinely shocking!!
Mirka ftw
Maybe next video
I had two of those, both of them have stopped after 6 months
Poor comparison video, you can’t compare sanders when you’re using different stroke rates, 3mm vs 5mm. The 5mm will always win. The higher the stroke the faster the removal rate will be, smaller stroke rate means slower but a finer finish
Nice Job. I have tons of air, so I have been using Dynabrades for a long time. So, I don't have much current experience with electric sanders, but your testing sure looks honest and professional.
Dynabrade and other comparable pneumatic sanders are the true top tier random orbitals that puts all electric sanders to shame. I can’t wait to try them out. We still need to upgrade compressors. Thanks for stopping by Charlie!
@@TNTINDUSTRIESLLC saw this video, decided to share it with you instead of posting.
ruclips.net/video/-Wbq23TOoXU/видео.html
Man what a bummer of a birth mark. . . . Oh, that was a tattoo on his arm.
At least it looks better than your birth mark… 🫡
Bosch is junk mine lasted a year and only using it as a homeowner doing small projects. 😢
That’s wild. Mine has been cooking with gas. I use it commercially for hours a day
Strange. Either a faulty item you could have replaced or you're doing something wrong. Having said that... I had Bosch drills fail badly a few years back, as did many other folk, so I went Milwaukee which was on a good offer at the time.
@@cuebj I went to festool and will never look back.
If your Bosch broken in 1 year for sure you do something wrong, i have over 10 different bosch electrical tools, none of them broke in more than 3 years of use, some of them are over 5 years old!
Which model did you get? The only Bosch I have used that had any unintended issues was the el cheapo 5 inch Bosch from the big box store. The dust container got a crack in it and the lid had to be taped on.