The retro paint scheme is beautiful, the retor base just looks terrible. It would be really cool to see a retro paint scheme with som ebetter basing though.
We put on two coats of gloss back in the day , because the paint chipped so easily off those metal mini's. Your mini only needs a bit of gloss for that perfect 90's look.
I strongly believe that space marines look better with all the goofy heraldry, flame patterns, checkers on the power fist, KIL, any and all of it. It rules.
I enjoy the vibrant colors. Heraldry. Back banners. All that stuff. Much more fun than grimdark and dust powder and stuff that makes models look worn and dirty
The studio still presents models with a lot of pop. And don't be mistaken, running around in blue/red/gold/white armor is quintesentialy goofy and a callback to knights heraldry. I think this is a vibe problem and not a real one. Painting with pop and bright colors is still the dominant style I see just about everywhere, it just isn't the same glazing style from the 80s/early 90s, and the universe have firmed up a bit and become less silly - despite still being quite ridiculous.
What might be an issue while glazing over the red is that the liquitex inks tend to reactivate when applying watered down paint over them, sealing them in with a varnish solves this issue
This has always been my favorite mini painting style. Volumetric painting is cool but I like how this type of mini looks good from any angle and any lighting condition you put it in.
I have a whole Ultramarines Primaris army painting in 2nd editon style. Red gun casings, yellow trim, green base and back banners. Merry Christmas to you!
Beautifully done! Reminds me of my youth. I won awards painting lead minis back in the day, and was considered very good, but the paints were very different (we used enamel and oil paints!) and so were the surfaces (lead is nothing like plastic). I still have some of my old lead minis and my friends are amazed at what I managed to accomplish back then. I am quite proud of my young self, but I haven’t painted a miniature in over 30 years. You’ve made me want to try my hand at doing this again. Whilst I think I might be able replicate my old paint jobs now, I will have to relearn how to paint with modern media to duplicate what you’ve done since enamel paint doesn’t mix, flow, or cover like acrylic. But, then again, I’m remembering my glory days and I would probably be disappointed in my brush control. Thanks for making this video, you’ve brought back good memories.
Nice post, having tried enamel paints for a bit back in the stone age of youth, I can say acrylic is way easier to handle, especially on plastic and with the newer paints even easier. Try your hand, I believe you'll find it easier than you think.
Thank you for Painting a Primaris in the style of the 90’s color/style. Everytime I see a video/tutorial of someone painting in the 90’s style its always with an Older Model or I see photo of a primaris in the style but no tutorial. But this was very refreshing to see and I might try this Blood Angel next year. This model looks Absolutely Stunning!
I'm liking the retro vibe going around. I love the aesthetic John Blanche created for the setting, and I'm glad it is getting a revival. I think you did the box are justice with this mini.
Wow this looks fantastic. You managed to recapture the vibe of the 90s but with a more modern execution. I was skeptical at first because of the color scheme but it just pops. The result is just great.
One of my favorite videos of yours. Would love to see this kill team. I gave up painting these back in the day because the paint was so bad. Started collecting in 88 and this takes me straight back. Good job
As a 39yo blood angel aficionado that has not painted anything in the last 20 odd years... This made me feel right at home! You got a great result and, in my old guy's opinion, a beautiful model! You made me want to go buy some blood red and goblin green (sadly discontinued, I know)
I really like this oldschool look. Even the green base. I would try to varnish the red ink. That should create a surface on wich the other colors should react as expected.
Nice job would love to see an army like that. Ahh the yellows back then were a pain in the behind. Bronzed flesh basecoat and sunburst yellow did the trick but if you had a large surface... Such a pain.
Love that red. I always wanted that deep rich red that featured on the BA on some of the WD covers of the day, but GW leaned into that more orange shade after that.
The mini looks great! The base might be a tad to deeply green (both for the retro look and for my poor eyes 😅), but the miniature realy evokes the right feel. And looks awsome
Trov, you are an artiste. I still remember your golden demon pieces, so maybe I pedestal you a bit - but my god man, your videos are a resource. I need you. More oldhammer pls?
I think the modern grimdark style is better than the ultra bright 90s version, but I can't deny that it has some appeal and you really did the style justice.
My personal favourite bright yellow if you haven't tried it yet is bismuth yellow from pro acryl. It's almost painfully bright, coverage is poor but great for really pushing highlights.
That is an awesome paint scheme. I got into warhammer 40k during 2nd edition. Interestingly, the old citadel blood red was closer to an orange and next to impossible to highlight. My 10 year old self salutes you in replicating the box art red, thank you.
Bright and shiny power armor is fun. It's how I paint my Ultramarines, like they're in a comic book. Really pops. I save the grim dark for my Slaves to Darkness army.
Great job. Have lots of nostalgia for that particular boxart and think you nailed your goal here. Particularly like the flames, those and checkered patterns scream classic 40K in my opinion. A complete Killteam in this style will look amazing.
Merry Christmas and happy holidays! This model is amazing! The flames, the gem and the eye lenses are really great! I always liked the classic 2nd edition Blood Angels painting scheme and I still stick to it. However, my models do not come up to the quality of the miniature you have painted :D
Very cool looking, I'm wondering how well you could do the shadows but using either oils or enamels both for their longer working time and for the general reductive workflow? I'm also curious what would happen if you mixed some florescent inks into your highlight mixes either in addition to or instead of white, or even just glazed it on over the shadowed and highlighted surfaces?
Yes we had airbrushes in the 90s, I had my first one in the 80s, we also used to use white basecoats a lot back then in 2nd edition, rogue trader was generally black basecoats, we used a lot of non GW products to get the right effects, most of it was from techniques from the old Airfix and Tamiya ww2 model painters passed down, for my 2nd edition Blood Angels I used a Burnt umber oil paint made into a wash to shade, and panel liner for the darkest shadows.
I've noticed twice in your recent videos that you've had issues with staining once with oils on your imperial fist and once with inks with this blood angel. I think its due to your rattle can white primer adding a micro texture to your miniatures. I think its gripping the pigment as it drys.
Does obnoxious mean awesome if so, that is definitely obnoxious. I realize this isn't your best, but I think it might be my favorite. Getting that modern mini posed like the original art was a killer touch.
A way to reduce the time and increase the vibrancy of the yellow would be not using masking tape and applying a pink colour. I use Pro Acryl pale pink and it covers really well (it has probably some of their famous bold titanium white) and doesn't give a chalky finish if thinned properly. And why not recess shade with oils ? Does it reactivate the ink ?
Retrohammer > grimdark all day every day. I am so glad to see people adopting it especially in the Ultramarines groups because adding red back to that chapter makes it look that much more impressive on the table.
Paints in the 90s were fine. People were doing red over white or black spray. Shading washes, inks, and premixed glazes were all available including the likes of Chestnut Wash. Feels like you were thinking about the late 80s.
Well coming from the early 90's here, some paints were ok but lighter shades were quite difficult to work with. Chestnut wash was great though, very versatile.
@@SteveForteGMR Yeah, used it for most red with blood angels red as a highlight, strangely enough skull white was relatively good for doing small surfaces.
Looks Great - Something about this style just pops with the cartoon like colors. Maybe a new series for you to experiment with - Paint some other chapters in the old 90's style. And yes, most of those old paints were horrible - and the pots needed some plier to get the lids off after using the colors after a couple of painting sessions.
Isn't just nostalgia; it makes the models stand out on a tabletop. On a board of mdf scatter terrain under typical community centre flouro lights dark/grimdark stuff just reads as black/brown
I was into 40k in the very early 2000s and really disliked painting due to the issues i had with coverage and RUclips tutorials weren’t really a thing. I had another go at it like 5 years ago and absolutely loved it because the paints had come so far i found something that looked cool and was easy to do bulk lots with.
WOW this is the best ever I wanted to paint them too but scared to,, but now will do it now. Please do you think I "know only you can" do black templars like this with this method and paints? because most BTs come out grey BTs? Great representative of Johns art who I have met a few times and keep a gift that he gave me till this day. thank you.
You know, using enamel washes would have solved the shading issue. You can easily thin, reduce or build a gradient. I dislike enamels and oils, but the right tool for the right job solves this issue in minutes versus hours. That "control" factor comes with working time, and will mimic the box art much better - the original was done in oil, so if you want to get the shadow identical, you'll want to use that medium to accomplish it. Granted you're a skilled enough painter that you CAN use acrylics to get there - but it's going to take hours versus the ~10 minutes it would take to accomplish with an oil or enamel wash.
I got into 40k just as 3rd was launching and Blood Angels was my first choice for an army. The paint was terrible, but I'd been into scale modeling since I was a kid and inherited a clunky old airbrush compressor and a very basic airbrush from my older brother when he upgraded. I would have gone crazy trying to paint that entire army with a brush.
Ohboy, how you breezed through the black trim on the shoulder pads. That gave me horrible flashbacks. Blood Red was not opaque enough to easily correct a mishap, back then.
This remembers me painting grenades in blood red or goblin green, pistol holsters in snakebite leather and other stuff that is at least questionable these days. The miniatures were SCREAMING "hey, let's play"! The paint schemes looked much less realistic and dark and more like a game. Like it or not, great paint job and a great rememberance to my younger days 🙂
the only models i own are nostalgia. i think my newest minis from citadel are the first edition LotR figs. One reason is the abundance of metal minis, and that is still a scary format! But amazing work, would love to see some more retro gone modern! Ps. the base looks amazing!
The answer is quite simple. Use enamels and you will see the miniature come to life like that box art. That we use acrylics almost exclusively always baffles me. I come from car modeling. Using lacquers and enamels is what we do. Try it.
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The retro paint scheme is beautiful, the retor base just looks terrible. It would be really cool to see a retro paint scheme with som ebetter basing though.
We put on two coats of gloss back in the day , because the paint chipped so easily off those metal mini's. Your mini only needs a bit of gloss for that perfect 90's look.
A mini falling over was always groan inducing because you know paint would chip.
My parents would lightly bake them with a pottery sealer. Those things didn’t chip tell I reached my teens .
@nickdavis5420 first i ever hears of that. Any idea the temp? White metal has a lowww melting point.
@ it wasn’t that hot like as low as the oven could go
As I reach boomerhood, I can confirm lol
I strongly believe that space marines look better with all the goofy heraldry, flame patterns, checkers on the power fist, KIL, any and all of it. It rules.
It speaks to the audacity of it all. Grimdark and blanchitsu is great and all, but add some audacity for the true 40k experience
@@GenuineMartin it makes them feel unique and personal to you rather than the plain ones on the box art
I enjoy the vibrant colors. Heraldry. Back banners. All that stuff. Much more fun than grimdark and dust powder and stuff that makes models look worn and dirty
The studio still presents models with a lot of pop. And don't be mistaken, running around in blue/red/gold/white armor is quintesentialy goofy and a callback to knights heraldry. I think this is a vibe problem and not a real one. Painting with pop and bright colors is still the dominant style I see just about everywhere, it just isn't the same glazing style from the 80s/early 90s, and the universe have firmed up a bit and become less silly - despite still being quite ridiculous.
@@ericclark2296 i think its also the fact that a lot of Warhammer fans seem to have taken this hobby WAY too seriously these days
What might be an issue while glazing over the red is that the liquitex inks tend to reactivate when applying watered down paint over them, sealing them in with a varnish solves this issue
Had that problem, ruined my entire motivation for a project army. Even varnishing in several layers didn’t remedy this. 😢
@asiburger mix a bit of Matt medium into the ink while airbrushing it, that solves this alot better than varnishing afterwards
This has always been my favorite mini painting style. Volumetric painting is cool but I like how this type of mini looks good from any angle and any lighting condition you put it in.
The glossy vibrant Ulta saturated looks so good. I love grimey grimdark paint style too, but man, you just can't go wrong with the retro style
the toy soldier look has a charm of its own
I have a whole Ultramarines Primaris army painting in 2nd editon style. Red gun casings, yellow trim, green base and back banners. Merry Christmas to you!
Thanks
Thanks a lot for the support mate!
@@trovarion you're welcome. have a good end of year and all the best for 2025.
Great job. I take my eyes burning as a good sign.
Beautifully done! Reminds me of my youth. I won awards painting lead minis back in the day, and was considered very good, but the paints were very different (we used enamel and oil paints!) and so were the surfaces (lead is nothing like plastic). I still have some of my old lead minis and my friends are amazed at what I managed to accomplish back then. I am quite proud of my young self, but I haven’t painted a miniature in over 30 years. You’ve made me want to try my hand at doing this again.
Whilst I think I might be able replicate my old paint jobs now, I will have to relearn how to paint with modern media to duplicate what you’ve done since enamel paint doesn’t mix, flow, or cover like acrylic. But, then again, I’m remembering my glory days and I would probably be disappointed in my brush control.
Thanks for making this video, you’ve brought back good memories.
Nice post, having tried enamel paints for a bit back in the stone age of youth, I can say acrylic is way easier to handle, especially on plastic and with the newer paints even easier. Try your hand, I believe you'll find it easier than you think.
Thank you for Painting a Primaris in the style of the 90’s color/style.
Everytime I see a video/tutorial of someone painting in the 90’s style its always with an Older Model or I see photo of a primaris in the style but no tutorial.
But this was very refreshing to see and I might try this Blood Angel next year.
This model looks Absolutely Stunning!
I'm liking the retro vibe going around. I love the aesthetic John Blanche created for the setting, and I'm glad it is getting a revival. I think you did the box are justice with this mini.
Love the 2nd Gen paint job, so good!
I still have my 2nd edition books, I love checking out the artwork from time to time. This looks great!
I love it, the color really pops. I look forward to seeing the finished Kill Team.
Completely knocked it out of the park. A beautiful and faithful homage!
Wow this looks fantastic. You managed to recapture the vibe of the 90s but with a more modern execution. I was skeptical at first because of the color scheme but it just pops. The result is just great.
One of my favorite videos of yours. Would love to see this kill team. I gave up painting these back in the day because the paint was so bad. Started collecting in 88 and this takes me straight back. Good job
As a 39yo blood angel aficionado that has not painted anything in the last 20 odd years... This made me feel right at home! You got a great result and, in my old guy's opinion, a beautiful model! You made me want to go buy some blood red and goblin green (sadly discontinued, I know)
I really like this oldschool look. Even the green base.
I would try to varnish the red ink. That should create a surface on wich the other colors should react as expected.
Nice job would love to see an army like that. Ahh the yellows back then were a pain in the behind. Bronzed flesh basecoat and sunburst yellow did the trick but if you had a large surface... Such a pain.
Lot of nostalgia for me in this video. The result is gorgeous. It reminds me a period where the grim dark future was vivid and saturated !
Love that red. I always wanted that deep rich red that featured on the BA on some of the WD covers of the day, but GW leaned into that more orange shade after that.
Yeah, I never liked the more orange red GW went with. My BAs are a deep red that looks like, well, _blood._
Just a Gorgeous mini!!
The mini looks great! The base might be a tad to deeply green (both for the retro look and for my poor eyes 😅), but the miniature realy evokes the right feel. And looks awsome
Trov, you are an artiste. I still remember your golden demon pieces, so maybe I pedestal you a bit - but my god man, your videos are a resource. I need you.
More oldhammer pls?
I absolutely LOVE how this looks!
That is still a really vibrant red from what you can get across through a camera lens
Wow! I love the look. Thats the 40k I fell in love with as a Kid
I think the modern grimdark style is better than the ultra bright 90s version, but I can't deny that it has some appeal and you really did the style justice.
looks awesome, prolly goes crazy on the tabletop
Nostalgia! Totally love it. Great work. Thanks for sharing mate.
I wasn't into 40k back then, but yeah that is quite bright and awesome. Matches the old art really well!
Bad ass as usual. My favorite mini painter. Thanks for the video!
My personal favourite bright yellow if you haven't tried it yet is bismuth yellow from pro acryl. It's almost painfully bright, coverage is poor but great for really pushing highlights.
That yellow result is the major thing I always associate with old hammer painting. The orange shadows and almost washed out white highlights.
Absolutely loved this. Merry Christmas, Mate.
Thanks for this video, such an awesome Christmas gift! I’ll watch it this evening
That is an awesome paint scheme. I got into warhammer 40k during 2nd edition. Interestingly, the old citadel blood red was closer to an orange and next to impossible to highlight. My 10 year old self salutes you in replicating the box art red, thank you.
Yeah, a ruby red base and blood red as a first highlight was the trick I found to work with orange and sunburst yellow for edge highlight.
I dry brushed Red Gore into the shadow areas of mine, it was slightly glossy, gave really nice depth and made the armour look like blood
Bright and shiny power armor is fun. It's how I paint my Ultramarines, like they're in a comic book. Really pops. I save the grim dark for my Slaves to Darkness army.
Great job. Have lots of nostalgia for that particular boxart and think you nailed your goal here. Particularly like the flames, those and checkered patterns scream classic 40K in my opinion. A complete Killteam in this style will look amazing.
Yes yes yes. Love these retro painting videos!
That yellow is hardly a 93 yellow! I've been painting up some 90s eldar and loving it!!
This was a really cool nostalgic video.
this looks awesome. great job.
That looks amazing! I can't wait to see that killteam!
Looks absolutely stunning man, iconic colour palette 🎉
I have never played 40K. Only warhammer fantasy back in the day and age of sigmar the last years. The mini looks amazing!!!!
The Black Flames are badass
Great video! Just in time for when I started kitbashing Angels of Death, and I thought about painting them inspired by the exact same graphic.
Merry Christmas and happy holidays! This model is amazing! The flames, the gem and the eye lenses are really great! I always liked the classic 2nd edition Blood Angels painting scheme and I still stick to it. However, my models do not come up to the quality of the miniature you have painted :D
That looks great!
Wow, i actually really like it!
Very cool looking, I'm wondering how well you could do the shadows but using either oils or enamels both for their longer working time and for the general reductive workflow? I'm also curious what would happen if you mixed some florescent inks into your highlight mixes either in addition to or instead of white, or even just glazed it on over the shadowed and highlighted surfaces?
Yes we had airbrushes in the 90s, I had my first one in the 80s, we also used to use white basecoats a lot back then in 2nd edition, rogue trader was generally black basecoats, we used a lot of non GW products to get the right effects, most of it was from techniques from the old Airfix and Tamiya ww2 model painters passed down, for my 2nd edition Blood Angels I used a Burnt umber oil paint made into a wash to shade, and panel liner for the darkest shadows.
Of course, but it was nowhere as widespread as today.
Merry Xmas from Canada.
The switch hit off the orange highlight kills me.
I've noticed twice in your recent videos that you've had issues with staining once with oils on your imperial fist and once with inks with this blood angel. I think its due to your rattle can white primer adding a micro texture to your miniatures. I think its gripping the pigment as it drys.
Does obnoxious mean awesome if so, that is definitely obnoxious. I realize this isn't your best, but I think it might be my favorite. Getting that modern mini posed like the original art was a killer touch.
Old school colors on modern primaris looks good af
A way to reduce the time and increase the vibrancy of the yellow would be not using masking tape and applying a pink colour.
I use Pro Acryl pale pink and it covers really well (it has probably some of their famous bold titanium white) and doesn't give a chalky finish if thinned properly.
And why not recess shade with oils ? Does it reactivate the ink ?
Awesome ❤ looks better and have a nice vibe better than WH Game Workshop paint box job!!!
Retrohammer > grimdark all day every day. I am so glad to see people adopting it especially in the Ultramarines groups because adding red back to that chapter makes it look that much more impressive on the table.
Those inks are god tier for getting really bright saturated colors! Did my bad moons with a yellow ink
looks amazing! good joob!
Awesome 🎉 merry Christmas to everyone 🎉
Paints in the 90s were fine. People were doing red over white or black spray. Shading washes, inks, and premixed glazes were all available including the likes of Chestnut Wash. Feels like you were thinking about the late 80s.
Well coming from the early 90's here, some paints were ok but lighter shades were quite difficult to work with. Chestnut wash was great though, very versatile.
@masanthar Ruby Red covered much better than blood red.
@@SteveForteGMR Yeah, used it for most red with blood angels red as a highlight, strangely enough skull white was relatively good for doing small surfaces.
@@masanthar don't forget the Smelly Primer 😁
You forgot the golden yellow drybrush on the base, other than that, perfect
GrimDark Retro 3rd edition would be interesting
goblin green bases are the GOAT.
great approach to the retro look
Beautiful.
So beautiful 😊😊
Looks Great - Something about this style just pops with the cartoon like colors. Maybe a new series for you to experiment with - Paint some other chapters in the old 90's style. And yes, most of those old paints were horrible - and the pots needed some plier to get the lids off after using the colors after a couple of painting sessions.
Oh man, i remember the pots...
What Green did you use for the base? I really like it! xD
Had to mix it...I'll let you know when I am back home after the hollidays!
@@trovarion Thank you! and Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Isn't just nostalgia; it makes the models stand out on a tabletop. On a board of mdf scatter terrain under typical community centre flouro lights dark/grimdark stuff just reads as black/brown
Would love to see how you replicate the Rouge Trader Crimson Fists
Fantastic stuff
Now you have to paint a retro space marine with a modern grim dark style
I stil remeber the smell of goblin green! lol
I was into 40k in the very early 2000s and really disliked painting due to the issues i had with coverage and RUclips tutorials weren’t really a thing. I had another go at it like 5 years ago and absolutely loved it because the paints had come so far i found something that looked cool and was easy to do bulk lots with.
WOW this is the best ever I wanted to paint them too but scared to,, but now will do it now.
Please do you think I "know only you can" do black templars like this with this method and paints?
because most BTs come out grey BTs?
Great representative of Johns art who I have met a few times and keep a gift that he gave me till this day. thank you.
This is the only good way to paint Space Marine, especially in 2024. THANK YOU!
You know, using enamel washes would have solved the shading issue. You can easily thin, reduce or build a gradient. I dislike enamels and oils, but the right tool for the right job solves this issue in minutes versus hours. That "control" factor comes with working time, and will mimic the box art much better - the original was done in oil, so if you want to get the shadow identical, you'll want to use that medium to accomplish it. Granted you're a skilled enough painter that you CAN use acrylics to get there - but it's going to take hours versus the ~10 minutes it would take to accomplish with an oil or enamel wash.
Enamels are also good for bright vibrant colors, which is why the gunpla community use them. Running those through an airbrush is a bit more toxic.
I got into 40k just as 3rd was launching and Blood Angels was my first choice for an army. The paint was terrible, but I'd been into scale modeling since I was a kid and inherited a clunky old airbrush compressor and a very basic airbrush from my older brother when he upgraded. I would have gone crazy trying to paint that entire army with a brush.
Well... It's not a Real green Goblin for the base. But the marine id gorgeous. I had this box when I was teenager.
Hmmmmm, might have to paint my leviathan sternguard vets in this old school style. ie the standard when I started playing =)
Ohboy, how you breezed through the black trim on the shoulder pads. That gave me horrible flashbacks. Blood Red was not opaque enough to easily correct a mishap, back then.
Looking good
Try tamiya panel liner for the shadows
This remembers me painting grenades in blood red or goblin green, pistol holsters in snakebite leather and other stuff that is at least questionable these days. The miniatures were SCREAMING "hey, let's play"!
The paint schemes looked much less realistic and dark and more like a game. Like it or not, great paint job and a great rememberance to my younger days 🙂
It _is_ making me wonder just how much of an abomination a shiny candy apple red paintjob would be...
Snakebite leather was a godsend, from skeletons to clothing even flesh..
the only models i own are nostalgia. i think my newest minis from citadel are the first edition LotR figs. One reason is the abundance of metal minis, and that is still a scary format!
But amazing work, would love to see some more retro gone modern! Ps. the base looks amazing!
Really cool
Love everything except the green basing. Always thought that looked stupid
Very nice. The only think I don't like is the base
Second Edition is king!!
Looks great but I'd leave out the goblin green base. Not sure if there's anyone who actually loved that part of the style.
The answer is quite simple. Use enamels and you will see the miniature come to life like that box art. That we use acrylics almost exclusively always baffles me.
I come from car modeling. Using lacquers and enamels is what we do. Try it.
The average brush-licking Warhammer painter wouldn't survive a day ;)
Very good 👍
Call me crazy, but I liked it....a lot.😊