Film Theory: Is Bill Cipher ACTUALLY in Love With Ford? (Gravity Falls)
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Today, we are revisiting the universe of Gravity Falls and The Book of Bill. Were Bill and Ford in a relationship at one point? We answer this burning question on everyone’s minds in today’s episode!
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I cannot believe I’ve lived enough to witness a film theory episode about billford
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this honestly gave me a heart attack seeing the title
Same-
“One thing led to another-“
OKAY FORD.
He saved the town
"Your math is no match for my GUN, you idiot!" Best out of context quote ever.
The math was,in fact,a match for his gun
It was at this moment that Ford recognized the undeniable fact that Probabilotor’s math was, in fact, quite a considerable match for his gun.
Excuse me but are you forgetting about: “yes, yes, burn the child” or even: “when there’s no cops around, anythings legal!”
“MATH RAAAAAAAY”
I believe your forgetting “If there’s no cops around, anythings legal!
Forgot to mention that the whole leaving mice on someone's doorstep is one of Bill's love advices, another being "trap someone in a pyramid and serenade them" which he did to Ford in Weirdmaggedon. Also the tattoo that he wanted Ford to get which says, "If lost, return to Bill"
you're cooking
"if lost, return to bill" BITING MY FIST RIGHT NOW
also listing dead mice/rats instead of flowers as a gift for your crush, immediately followed by ford's birthday where he gifted him dead rats in the shape of his name. he aint slick
The last part seems like something you would do for your pet.
And if BOTH are previous exes?
Outcasts of genius caliber seem to be Bill's type.
Not to mention: It says Exes, so there can be multiple
Yes, i think both are his exes. Bill just hates Jessie because she betrays him, while he still has a soft spot for Ford. That's just my theory.
@@chikki2597 your bill theory
yep, heavily agree on that one
i was thinking every person he may have tried to swindle to build a portal could potentially be an ex.
Huh. Maybe Bill has his own "Evil Exes" he can call on to do his bidding.
You forgot the “trap [your crush] in a giant stone pyramid and sing shrill songs” advice/weirdmageddon evidence!
right?
He should've mentioned it
It’s crazy
"Disney might be a bit to cowardly to explore" THE SHADE OMG
I mean... He's not wrong...
*looks at The Owl House’s corpse*
I'm sooo glad he explicitly said "cowardly" 👏
Why would Disney be afraid to go there.?
You show Disney execs a picture of bill & they will say "Bill is not a "he" or a "person," Bill is a "that" or an "it."
@@LikaLaruku There were making a movie about gender dysphoria but got either ret-conned or cancelled, rainbow capitalism is no more
@@LikaLaruku well the two police officers weren't allowed too show what they feeled you could agrue that it has changed but the owl house proofed that atleast its dislike when you can't cut it out of the show for realases in other countrys
Lee doesn't point this out but it's worth mentioning that the exes section is titled "My Exes" in the first place, not "my ex", plural. Pretty much telling us from the very beginning that Bill has multiple exes.
yeah
I guess you could say... it's a love triangle.
BOOOOO, GET OFF THE STAGE
@@Elijah_the_weyo_boy oh c'mon, he's trying his best :3
@@Elijah_the_weyo_boynooo, this is peak dad joke. And if if you don't like dad jokes, what are you doing here.
Eyyyy!😂
👏
The book says EXES. Maybe both is right. There are two lines so maybe the format is:
Jessie- ____________________
Stanford-___________________
Eh, of course Bill would have loads of exes. I feel if anyone was in that section, it’d primarily be Ford though. Either him first or him after a whole lot of other names. :)
Diversity win: Evil triangle is bi
Yes
Theres definitely subtext for it. But it was DEFINITELY an abusive and toxic relationship
Idk man i think that they were kinda into it /j
On top of that, it’s less romantic love than it is immature, power play, pet hierarchy type stuff
I mean romance or not it was abusive either way
That’s extremely obvious to all, I think. Anyone who doesn’t think that has terrible media literacy…
honestly dont know how this wasnt clocked the second the book of bill came out. that triangle and that old man BANGED
Billford so close to canon even film theory is on it
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@@non_saprei_channel oh god, the bots are back :/
I thought they were gone too
yes
oh yeah about the void, the B&N exclusive version outright confirms they are "brief" exes. it's nothing big but they did provably date. Bill is also implied to have dated every readers mother as a joke towards the running theme of hidden exes.
the b&n exclusive confirms WHAT
elaborate
how
what exactly does it say i need to know
Just woke up and saw a Gravity Falls Film Theory video. My day just got better
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Yep my day got better too
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Same for me
Disney: not showing the potential relationship between Ford and Bill
Film Theory: "COWARDS!"
I have been watching film theory for about 8 years but I would have never expected a Billford video
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I'm happy to see it, as I love billford, but my mom watches them too so I might be cooked.
Me neither
Same!
@@Raggy_dfGL 😭
"I can see an 8th color of the rainbow" i have a slur to say /j
STOPPP 💀
Not going over the "the love cage" bit in the Book of Bill and how that directly parallels Bill's behavior when he's trying to get Ford to join him during Weirdmaggedon, even in the episode going over possible evidence of their relationship, is an odd choice.
They don’t want to invalidate their previous theory but also pumped this out because they got flamed for that exact reason, kinda scummy ngl
@@titan1umtitanYES
@@titan1umtitanIt wouldn't have even invalidated their previous theory though.
Could've been an oversight? Or maybe just a bit too dark to mention for this kind of video? But I do agree, I wish they would have talked about it.
The things bill is also traps grunkle Stan and the kids in the pyramid cages so,maybe it invalidates the hypothesis.
a lot of this is why i headcannon bill as sapioromantic/sapiosexual, because hes never shown interest in gender or anything like that, hes only shown interest in intelligence. both of his exes are highly intelligent individuals, and he seemed attracted to both of them BECAUSE of that intellgence.
He did talk about his disdain for the "flat minds" in his home dimension so it makes sense that he'd have a thing for the best 3D minds available
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Yes. Definitely. Absolutely.
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I rigged it
Why is there a bot.....
I'm gonna be real with you I'm actually so happy you recognised Bill DID likely date both. My theory is definitely that Bill doesn't actually consider Ford an Ex yet. So Jesse is likely the one on the "list", because he's refusing to believe he's finished with Ford yet.
You know it’s a good Sunday when film theory posts.
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That's every sunday
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@ that makes sense
I would like to add that Alex and the gravity falls team are so good at writing and just applying real life complex experiences to a fictional world and I love it
Game theory talking about old man and triangle yaoi was not on my 2025 bingo card
aroace lugei
@@littleaminal8684 yup
Luigi?
@@rubenlohata5263 that is the guy in my pfp, yes
@monoduck ik ik
Remember: if Disney takes this down it’s canon
YES 100%
I did it. I saved the town.
me when i save the town
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IM BETTER KIDS
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There was a moment in the book (before puppet hour) where Bill set up a comfy area with fire, hot tea and a chess set.
It was like how a toxic ex realizes they pushed to far and does something very over the top thinking it make it all better
Bill is a textbook abusive partner and ex in some ways. Or a lot of them. Love bombing and then abandoning Ford, all that… then being unable to accept Ford’s moved on.
'TWAS FORETOLD IN THE ANCIENT TEXTS OF TUMBLR
real tumblerinas knew, finally the fandom opened their EYE(S)
‘Twas FORDtold more like
@@dbgoofyperson‘twas FORtolD, if you will
@@shrikerrrr Ah you certainly executed that way better than I did 👏 👏
Not to mention the "love cage" in the book of bill at the section "how to trick everyone into loving you" where it literally describes what Bill did to Ford in Weirdmaggaton
BILLFORD ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FINALLY
LITERALLY.
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@@Slimgen-h6v kiss a shotgun ❤️❤️❤️
Bruh have you been living under a rock for the last year or what😭
His ex is clearly Linda Flynn-Fletcher from Phineas abd Ferb
Seriously tho, the page says "My exes" not "my ex" so it says right there that its probably not just one person
when I tell you I RAN when I saw the title
Frr😭🙏🏻
19:21 AROMANTIC MENTION 💚
We don't get a lot of those
I squealed! I feel so seen
I'M USEFULL
OMG
HAPPY DAYYYYS
The creator of Gravity Falls drawing Bill and Ford kissing and then being questioned if it’s canon or not was not on my Film Theory Gone Wild Bingo Card
it was on mine
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO MY WHOLE LIFE
He didn’t draw it
I’m not sure it was Alex’s drawing
it's not Alex's drawings. It's pitt joe's
I love how you didn't discard any of the theories, but expanded on how if they're both valid Bill is just an asshole 😭👏
What a way to start the day
Bill really has his EYE on Stanford huh..?
Now that's a theory I've been waiting for!
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@@non_saprei_channel ZAO HAUNG SHU
Man, a fan theory turned into a legit theory, thats crazy.
Fun fact, bill and ford's HEBREW voice actors Yuval Segal and Saar Badishi were also the Hebrew voice voices of characters who had a romantic connection with a character who was Hebrew voiced by Sapir Darmon (for Yuval, it was orange and passion and for Saar, it was luka and Marinette).
Film theory going over billford is genuinely amazing but also surprising
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It’s cause they got flamed last time for dismissing it
Look what they're putting out after Matpat left 😭😭(and I love it)
22:10 bro whattt😭😭😭 this theory is do freaky
U all ready know people are screen shoting it
this is why Bill was displayed on the screen at the couple therapy in rick and morty during that one episode, he could have done that with Jessie or Ford
I like how this channel slowly evolves into a fan-fiction
i just have to say i love how well this channel has transformed. for example when mat left i believed this channel was not going to be the same but honestly i would say that the transformation is refreshing and the change from "MORTY" to "TRASH" is just great to say the least.
I have been waiting for you to actually mention this for so long!
IM BETTER THAN FLIM THEORY
THEY STOLE MY VIDS
Hearing that Ford was Bill's toxic rebound relationship via Film Theory was not on my 2025 bingo card
11:15 has Ford scribbling out in red ink like "Bill" has in his book.
THE AROMATIC FLAG APPEARED! Yippie! (I’m AroAce)That’s and it’s a gravity falls vid, my fav show, epic vid!
He did it, he saved the ship
Just when I thought they all stopped, EVEN FILM THEORY CAME AT ME
Tumblr sexyman triangle and old man yaoi? More likely than you think
I feel like they are both bill’s exes, and maybe that’s part of the reason Ford and Jessie bonded in Dimension 52
Bill Cipher would ship himself with himself.
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Ciphercest, if you will.
I agree that their both Cannon to a certain extent. However, I feel like too much emphasis is being placed on the Oracle (Jheselbraum). Bill is a Trillion Years Old, he mentioned "Ex's", and I'm pretty sure the crossed out line was a List.
I highly doubt he's ONLY Dated two people, and that Jessie was his first love. I'd imagine a guy like Bill, who claims to be a "love expert", probably gets around. Jessie and Ford probably just stand out as examples because they were both people Bill really liked.
Also, it will never NOT be funny to me that Book of Bill came out and the fandom goes: "BillFord Canon? 😱" Meanwhile, Flim Theory is running late holding their "Triangle × Jessie" sign and they ONLY start to get it when they see the Kiss Meme.
ALSO, Also! Is NO ONE going to mention that that Ford and Jheselbraum might have had a thing! She gives him her number. He misses her dimension. But HEY... that's just a theory. A FILM THE-
Bill Cipher falling in love with Ford is the reason why he saved the town.
Also the reason weirdmegaddon happened in the first place
Finally, after all these months…they’re covering Billford
Ao3 is screaming right now
Alex Hirsch: billford is not canon
Gravity falls fandom: Sure, alex, sure.😏
The Void can’t be the ex because he admitted that he had a bad relationship with this Void.
He did not for this mysterious ex
Wasn't expecting a Billford video to come out of this channel, but honestly, I'm all for it!
I never excepted this from Film Theory-
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@@arthurmartin4616 okie dokie
3rd year in a row getting broken up with before valentines day, this made my whole week. thanks lee ❤
0:16 is wild 💀
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Yeah that’s the whole point
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BREAKING NEWS: INTERNET CELEBRITY REALIZES THE BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS
He hasn’t been the same ever since Tom took the FNAF Movie from him.
Plot twist, MatPat was Bill's ex
"From Enemies to lovers" ahh relationship 😭😭😭
It's more of a " lovers to enemies"
I feel like it could be both, Bill doesn’t exactly seem like the type to care about monogamy
I wanted another Book of bill theory.
I DIDNT EXPECT THIS BUT ITS WELCOME
5:06 I can make an educated guess it says "The ____est one. Figured ______ dimensional portal. _____ sm____. Who wants her? Too many eyes.
Could you please do a theory on the maybe connected universe of the owl house, gf and amphibia? I'm sure lots of people would want that.
Ngl, I can see this being the case especially with the whole "Sixer and Fordsy" sweet talk.
Oh wow? Imagine if Dipper or Stanley ever found out or worse... Mabel!?
TBH Stan would not shut up about it for a while. Unless Ford really didn’t want to talk about it in a traumatized way, not a simple embarrassed way.
And… imo Mabel wouldn’t ship it since Bill is terrible. She’d probably try helping Ford find someone else.
I DID NOT EXPECT FILM THEORY TO COVER BILLFORD 😭😭 i love this channel sm
I had faith you guys would listen to the community on this one- this actually made my day.
This video is pure gold. Thank you for making my moment.
“I did it. I saved the town”
You totally killed it! Thanks for posting this.
Maybe Jessie was his first girlfriend and Ford was a rebound that grew into something more…
which is ur fav? the triangle-kissing scientist or the scientist-kissing triangle
What part of "Unswerving" did Bill not understand? It's the kind of moniker that makes you wonder if his affection towards her was one-sided and she never actually returned his advances.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. BILLFORD FILM THEORY!
This video is more important than the superbowl
This the least and most strange theory yet I’m still invested
How about instead of MORTY of TRASH it can be LEFT - Lee Explores Fan Theories?
Bill, the Love Triangle
Glad to know the toxic triangle yaoi has the film theory seal of approval now
Billford on film theory is not a day I thought I would see
Who needs a whole theory for this
Of course he is :]
Should some one tell him the gravity falls Reddit is just 99% people drawing characters with different eye colors
I am so glad you figured this out, I also want to know how it took you so long, the fandom has known for months
Ik this is relevant right now, but how many Gravity Falls theories is this channel going to make before they touch Amphibia?
Even Adventure Time or Over the Garden Wall :P
They probably will at some point. Seems like something they would do.
all those people saying "it's just fanfiction" are clearly missing the point of the potential evidence in the video. Just admit you're uncomfortable with the idea of Bill having a relationship with Ford. That's valid. That's understandable. But tossing aside widespread clues like this for your discomfort is exactly why companies like Disney are too cowardly to explore them in the first place.
edit: a word
Yeah people are just uncomfortable with the idea of non heteronormative relationships in general. It’s too woke or whatever
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO MY WHOLE LIFE
i love how film theory keeps remaking every shows intro
This Sunday has turned a lot better! You know when gravity falls happens, it’s a good day! ❤
"I did it! I saved the town! 😜" - Stanford
Never expected film theory to be dropping this vid 🔥🔥🔥