Exactly what I was thinking even before I opened the video. Even before opening the video I know I'm going to widen my scope when I choose techonolgies. These shorts are super helpful when you're the person deciding on the tech stack both for yourself and maybe a company you're working in.
One of the best things about Supabase is that you can escape Supabase. Since it's just Postgres DB, if you ever need to create your own backend, you can export your data to another Postgres.
I don't think this is true. Even though this is repeated over and over again. All of the realtime stuff and the dashboards work with the cloud. Running it on your own is a pain.
@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 I'm not talking about running supabase it on your own. I'm talking about exporting the data to another Postgres. I have run my own instant of Supabase and it hard and I don't recommend it. But I have helped clients migraine from Supabase to own backend and it's 1.000% easier than firebase.
Bro I literally checked your site like two or three days ago for a Supabase course and was disappointed that it was missing. BANG, one day later and this happens.
@@Tommy-and-Ray I would say my 2 main reasons are the capability to self host and that it uses a relational database and not document based like firebase. Firebase is a bit easier to setup because there are more libraries out there to integrate it with your favourite JS framework. In the end I would suggest you to try them both out and then decide. Make a really small prototype of some sort
@@AngryBacteria yeah relations is massive miss from my opinion, I'm having to hold a separate DB in order to undertake queries with various relations. Unfortunately that, in my app, equates to 80-90% of the queries.
I may not use a lot of these things. But having these quick view videos is great for seeing what is possible for new things and keeping up to date on cool tech. And made me test out a few things
Finally, you made me smile. It's so Supa Fireship, I have been using supabase for months now and I love it despite some quarks here and there due to few resources to learn about it on the internet, like that you started a course on it, very hepful!
There is a big and important difference with Supabase vs Firabase/Amplify. The last 2 are offline-first SDKs. Since Supabse is based on PostgresSQL it will be hard to do this. Firebase and Amplify handle the offline state for you, where Supabase does not.
@@Nico-dn7su Depends on the complexity of what you want to do while offline. And even then, it is "easy" but requires a lot of boilerplate code to manage offline state with REST APIs. Which is basically what Supabase is. Firebase and Amplify are not REST APIs. So I find it kinda odd that Supabase call themselves a "Firebase alternative" where they are not really a Firebase alternative. Firebase is a document-based database, which syncs with the server, just like CouchDB. This kind of implementations make the client code much more simple.
really high quality video in shortest time possible only major thing missing reg jwt is jwt secret which will be available on each project setting, that have to be copied
Yes, this made the backend less scary for me. It made it Enjoyable actually.. I took a summer course on SQL and my thinking was I well NEVER touch the database. Some years later, I'm here looking at the database as something that's not actually scary.
For me the biggest feature is how well in integrates with meta frameworks (next, sveltekit etc...) and type script support, other then that it's not as feature rich as other platforms
Your videos are so good! I found the addition of background music in this video made it much harder to hear you compared to your other non-music videos, just an FYI. Thanks friend! 🙂
I wish I know this project months ago, I'm almost done with my project using the most redundant setup ever. God I swear every time I'm almost done with a project, I find an easier way that I could have saved tons of time coding.
The endless cycle of software: - Company builds nice propertary tool; - Everyone starts using the tool; - Said company gets rich; - The Free Software community builds a copy of said tool; - Everyone moves to the free tool and gets happier because the free tool is actually better that the propertary alternative; - Said company goes broke and its logo is stamped on "dinassour technology" memes; - Repeat.
Superbase: A big, strong building with fancy technology and lots of stuff inside. It's like a main hub for important activities. Pocketbase: A small, moveable base with basic things and not a lot of resources. It's made to be flexible and set up quickly.
i've tried supabase in real project, it's completely immature tech, the sdk version are all over the place, many breaking changes, unclear documentations, the supabase edge functions are limited to 500MB memory, and i tried deploying a function with only one dependency which is AWS S3 and it failed to deploy because it uses 900mb memory the memory limitation is not concern when you are hosting your own Supabase server, by then i'm better off building my own backend instead, also the choice to use postgresql is bad one MongoDB or SurrealDB would've made more sense than an SQL Database or at least as a 2nd option
@@Rundik we wont even know when that is because no one will admit it and another will then be released. Truth is, they all suck and are awesome and we always will be required to pick up the inevitable slack :')
Edge functions will never replace real backbends. I'm all good with things like microservices. Done correctly they can be very organized. But the few times I've seen companies try to build around edge functions it's been a total mess.
I’ve made videos tutorials on how to install Supabase with Vue and Next on my channel - and I have to say that this video really explain well what is Supabase ❤
very nice video thank you for sharing, i will try this supabase its nice to hear it has all this functionality, i will surely resubscribe to your course
The one thing that holds me back from using supabase is that I need certain backend logic in Python and not just JS. I also prefer a nosql database solution. So it’s firebase for me right now.
You should use Supabase as your database... kind like your storage engine, and couple it with a framework like FastAPI + Sqlalchemy. Nothing is holding you back from using Supabase. It's just Postgres + some goodies
How can you scale it self-hosted is the big question 😁 Please don't respond "with a more performant server" 😂😂Because otherwise its just a different provider 😉
if you question about horizontal scaling then preferencing supabase to use is a question to ask for your self supabase is great to start Yes, but if you want to build massive web app presence then you will want to create ur custom backend duh
@@tonyhart2744 Thanks for putting things into perspective! Would be nice to be able to easily distribute this in my own cluster. Because otherwise i also have to rely on there cloud and have still kind of the same "lock-in" effect
hey there! been watching a whole bunch of these, i wanted to ask if you could make one of BASIC. Theres very little of it on youtube and even the programming language slander memes dont include it ever
Please never stop making these short educational videos. The quickest way to get a good overview. Thank you! 🙏🏻
Yeah true. Its like the quick docs for the differences and uses of different languages.
Exactly what I was thinking even before I opened the video.
Even before opening the video I know I'm going to widen my scope when I choose techonolgies. These shorts are super helpful when you're the person deciding on the tech stack both for yourself and maybe a company you're working in.
How about pascal in 100 seccond
@@craigcraig6248 100% Agree!
Totally agree! That's what brings value to a community!
One of the best things about Supabase is that you can escape Supabase.
Since it's just Postgres DB, if you ever need to create your own backend, you can export your data to another Postgres.
I don't think this is true. Even though this is repeated over and over again. All of the realtime stuff and the dashboards work with the cloud. Running it on your own is a pain.
Good luck with that
@@nonefvnfvnjnjnjevjenjvonej3384 I'm not talking about running supabase it on your own. I'm talking about exporting the data to another Postgres.
I have run my own instant of Supabase and it hard and I don't recommend it. But I have helped clients migraine from Supabase to own backend and it's 1.000% easier than firebase.
@@ore_bear8045 good luck with exporting a Postgres??? It's fairly easy.
Postgres migrations/backup/restores are rly easy.
Bro I literally checked your site like two or three days ago for a Supabase course and was disappointed that it was missing. BANG, one day later and this happens.
I'm so glad you made 100 Seconds of this, I just started using it.
Love your videos!
Thanks to this video I'm already making my next project on Supabase, it's being an awesome experience so far!
Supabase > firebase in my opinion
@@AngryBacteria could you tell us why? I'm trying to learn this stuff
@@Tommy-and-Ray I would say my 2 main reasons are the capability to self host and that it uses a relational database and not document based like firebase. Firebase is a bit easier to setup because there are more libraries out there to integrate it with your favourite JS framework. In the end I would suggest you to try them both out and then decide. Make a really small prototype of some sort
@@AngryBacteria ait thanks dude
@@AngryBacteria yeah relations is massive miss from my opinion, I'm having to hold a separate DB in order to undertake queries with various relations. Unfortunately that, in my app, equates to 80-90% of the queries.
I may not use a lot of these things. But having these quick view videos is great for seeing what is possible for new things and keeping up to date on cool tech. And made me test out a few things
Your videos are extremely useful and always make me laugh out loud! One of the best channels on RUclips!
wow i dont understand a thing but still watch all your videos, keep em coming
Finally, you made me smile. It's so Supa Fireship, I have been using supabase for months now and I love it despite some quarks here and there due to few resources to learn about it on the internet, like that you started a course on it, very hepful!
Fun fact: people read comments that start with fun fact
no i didn't
Old 😑
Would be great if you also covered a few downsides in these 100 second videos.
those are in the firebase killer video he released a few months back
Can we have "Ballerina in 100 Seconds" please! Your 100 seconds video series is lit!! 🔥
I was just reading up about Supabase and definitely gonna give it a shot. I bought your course. Looking forward to learning more.
How did you like the course, I want to build a project with react and use some BaaS, would you recommend supabase?
There is a big and important difference with Supabase vs Firabase/Amplify. The last 2 are offline-first SDKs. Since Supabse is based on PostgresSQL it will be hard to do this. Firebase and Amplify handle the offline state for you, where Supabase does not.
Just a small note, that firebase is not offline-first, but it does have offline capabilities
meh, easy to implement directly in the frontend code
@@Nico-dn7su Depends on the complexity of what you want to do while offline. And even then, it is "easy" but requires a lot of boilerplate code to manage offline state with REST APIs. Which is basically what Supabase is. Firebase and Amplify are not REST APIs. So I find it kinda odd that Supabase call themselves a "Firebase alternative" where they are not really a Firebase alternative. Firebase is a document-based database, which syncs with the server, just like CouchDB. This kind of implementations make the client code much more simple.
It's okay, you can make it yourself
Another difference is that fire base does not work in China, while Supabase does, for those who want to tread into the Chinese market
Man I would love a full tutorial on Supabase now… seems like such a useful tool
lad didn’t even watch till the end
@@MerkieAE LOL
Supabase replaced firebase in all my side projects that I never finished
Same
is it easy to work with ? does it have a good local emulator ?
@@rubenheymans1988 I haven't used the local mode but for the easy to work with I can vouch for. It has been a breeze
A very important part of music is bass.
A very important part of software is a BaaS
Yaayyy! I’m super interested in Supabase! Glad I have a lifetime account.
The best 100-second platform intro I've come across!
really high quality video in shortest time possible
only major thing missing reg jwt is jwt secret
which will be available on each project setting, that have to be copied
I’m still fan girling over Pocketbase
it still in beta.
@@anhvuuc8693 you sure?
Yes pocketbase is super good
Pocketbase is amazing
Yes, this made the backend less scary for me. It made it Enjoyable actually..
I took a summer course on SQL and my thinking was I well NEVER touch the database.
Some years later, I'm here looking at the database as something that's not actually scary.
No way I was just about to go create my supabase account and opened up youtube to see this that's crazy
Looks cool, wanted to understand if its production ready. Thinking of going with this for a project
Please do 100 seconds of appwrite next :)
0:20
For me the biggest feature is how well in integrates with meta frameworks (next, sveltekit etc...) and type script support, other then that it's not as feature rich as other platforms
Supabase is the only thing I use that Jeff hasn't teached me so I'm hyped to take the course and see what I'll learn !! thanks papa Jeff
Row level security using postgres policies is awesome
That was a nice high level overview. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you're covering Firebase alternative!
What is everyone thoughts on
- AppWrite
- Nhost
- AceBase
And PocketBase too which is actually awesome and has real self hosting unlike Supabase.
and WunderGraph. Would love to see a comparison on all of them.
@@parzivalOasis seems interesting!
Your videos are so good! I found the addition of background music in this video made it much harder to hear you compared to your other non-music videos, just an FYI.
Thanks friend! 🙂
That’s wild I was _just_ researching Supabase for an app I’m building, what are the odds
I wish I know this project months ago, I'm almost done with my project using the most redundant setup ever.
God I swear every time I'm almost done with a project, I find an easier way that I could have saved tons of time coding.
Thanks for making this video. Now I can embed it on my OfferingOverview page for Supabase.
Thanks for this quick but clear 100s video! Can you please also introduce Apache APISIX in 100s? 🙏
This guys really does read minds! Was just looking at this this morning
This all sounds really fancy :0
Your videos are really good. You are a talented explainer.
The music make a noise so I can't focus perfectly, without music you're doing well 👌
I would really like to see an in-depth comparison of supabase and pocketbase
#amazing_website_short_aws
I love appwrite for flutter and react
Could you cover AceBase? It’s a super cool project, I think it deserves more attention!
I would love to see a 100 seconds video on gRPC!
The endless cycle of software:
- Company builds nice propertary tool;
- Everyone starts using the tool;
- Said company gets rich;
- The Free Software community builds a copy of said tool;
- Everyone moves to the free tool and gets happier because the free tool is actually better that the propertary alternative;
- Said company goes broke and its logo is stamped on "dinassour technology" memes;
- Repeat.
Yet to see it for dotnet. Ironically its microsoft of all companies that is being forward with Blazor webassembly, Linq and maui.
Superbase: A big, strong building with fancy technology and lots of stuff inside. It's like a main hub for important activities.
Pocketbase: A small, moveable base with basic things and not a lot of resources. It's made to be flexible and set up quickly.
Great video as always!
Suggestion: trpc in 100 second
atm I'm programming in c++, so why am I even watching these videos? It must be a combination of polished visuals and Jeff's beautiful voice
i've tried supabase in real project, it's completely immature tech, the sdk version are all over the place, many breaking changes, unclear documentations,
the supabase edge functions are limited to 500MB memory, and i tried deploying a function with only one dependency which is AWS S3 and it failed to deploy because it uses 900mb memory
the memory limitation is not concern when you are hosting your own Supabase server, by then i'm better off building my own backend instead, also the choice to use postgresql is bad one
MongoDB or SurrealDB would've made more sense than an SQL Database or at least as a 2nd option
Same, had to go back to good old firebase
Why not sql, it’s more useful than documents where u end up with bad stuff for relate some of them
Yep, there aren't enough frameworks, backends and such. Keep them coming.
What do you expect if every single one of them is bad?
cant wait for the entry level job postings requiring 5+ years of supabase experience.
@@Rundik not creating another one that will turn out to be bad too?
@@АнтонПешков-ъ7н some day a good one will be created. Who knows, maybe even in our lifetime
@@Rundik we wont even know when that is because no one will admit it and another will then be released. Truth is, they all suck and are awesome and we always will be required to pick up the inevitable slack :')
such a good video that I even cried a little bit. Love you 😇
I was eyeing the superbase for a few days now and then suddenly new firebase video about supabase? Coincidence? I don't think so. :D
Love your videos! Can you also please make a video on micro frontends and module federation?
Edge functions will never replace real backbends. I'm all good with things like microservices. Done correctly they can be very organized. But the few times I've seen companies try to build around edge functions it's been a total mess.
Video on Entity Component System programming pattern?
The only thing I don’t like about FireBase is that the Postgres viewer doesn’t allow adding on delete cascade so you have to change that in sql
🤝THANKS FOR COMMENTING🆙
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I’ve made videos tutorials on how to install Supabase with Vue and Next on my channel - and I have to say that this video really explain well what is Supabase ❤
Deta (Base) is also pretty cool for small side projects. They allow you to host your node/python microapi for free too!
vanilla postgres with n-host && hasura front gives you all the tools you need to self-host IMO a superior and more flexible backend..
very nice video thank you for sharing, i will try this supabase its nice to hear it has all this functionality, i will surely resubscribe to your course
Thanks for watch-ii-ng, luv it
So Supabase allows us to use whatever we want as a cloud host? Like DigitalOcean, 1984 etc?
i love supabase. Postgres is so easy to manage. Not waking up to a $50,000 bill in the morning like you can with google & amazon. Clinched it for me.
i would like to try this for my next flutter project
great content as usual!!
Pocketbase vs. Supabase? 🤔
The one thing that holds me back from using supabase is that I need certain backend logic in Python and not just JS. I also prefer a nosql database solution. So it’s firebase for me right now.
You should use Supabase as your database... kind like your storage engine, and couple it with a framework like FastAPI + Sqlalchemy. Nothing is holding you back from using Supabase. It's just Postgres + some goodies
1:25 Row-Level Security ❤
Can't argue with anyone who uses a reference to “They Live”.
Music to my ears
Create Basic in 100 seconds, my brother wants to learn it, and he likes to learn from your videoes
Awesome video👌. Also, which soundtrack did you use ?
Awesome video as always sir
I'm sure you've already made a supabase video about a year ago?? I seem to remember you talking about it
Could we expect a flutter supabase course soon? Would be great!
Pocket base has been a joy to use so far
Love ur contnent
So I have to LEARN yet another thing. God when will this end!!!
Does the supabase course include self-hosting it?
Thanks a lot for this video. It was very usefull !
1:50 amogus at symbol
I would love to see your take on Altogic 🙏
Now I know what is a meaning of foss.
Perfect timing! Just when I'm about to implement my saas using supabase!
after those 2 minutes 30 seconds, you are covered, for sure! ;)
Supabase is really awesome I have to say
Django in 100 seconds please? Love your vids!
Shit, don't use it.
I wish there was frontend-as-a-service; for backend devs with the opposite problem.
You could make a video about NuxtFire the new official firebase module for Nuxt that will be released in the next few weeks.
Bruh this video came at the same my team and I were discussing what database model to use and what services
I dont understand a single thing that was said, but it seems pretty cool
What's about "Grist labs", it's so awesome 🔥🔥☀️
Amazing! Thank you
good video lads !
Wow, supa!
Any black friday discounts, Jeff?
Awsome as always
Really, Deno? Wow!
Is it matured so much? Nice!
How can you scale it self-hosted is the big question 😁 Please don't respond "with a more performant server" 😂😂Because otherwise its just a different provider 😉
if you question about horizontal scaling then preferencing supabase to use is a question to ask for your self
supabase is great to start Yes, but if you want to build massive web app presence then you will want to create ur custom backend duh
@@tonyhart2744 Thanks for putting things into perspective!
Would be nice to be able to easily distribute this in my own cluster. Because otherwise i also have to rely on there cloud and have still kind of the same "lock-in" effect
Thank you @fireship for all these overview videos. What about LabVIEW 😀😀😀 ? You should cover it on the channel. Looking forward to it. Thank you again
What's your preference, Firebase or Supabase ... General web apps. Chat programs etc ??
hey there! been watching a whole bunch of these, i wanted to ask if you could make one of BASIC. Theres very little of it on youtube and even the programming language slander memes dont include it ever