Home Machine Shop Tool Making - Machining A Small Lathe Carrier
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2015
- Home Machine Shop Toolmaking, Machining A Small Lathe Carrier, by Clickspring.
Clock pillars are an awkward little part to hold and machine, once the tapered and curved sections have been formed.
Its best to hold them by the small spigot, to avoid marking the part. A standard lathe carrier is not suited to the job.
In this episode, I machine a custom lathe carrier to suit the task.
A great mini mill project, with some marking out, mill work, the belt sander and hand finishing.
Be sure to use breathing protection whenever using a belt sander.
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Abbreviated Transcript:
00:19 So I'm making the pillars for the John Wilding Skeleton clock and I've hit a little snag.
00:24 I'd like to do the ornamental turning between centers but if I use one of my standard carriers, at some point I'll be clamping down on these curved sections, and I'm pretty sure that will mark the part, I think it would be better to drive it from the spigot, but I'll need a different sort of carrier to do that. I saw a picture in a John Wilding book, of a carrier that will do the job. He calls it an "antique lathe carrier"
00:47 The thinned down section will grip short cylinders like the spigot, but still keep clear of the center and the thicker cross section at the outside can be drilled and tapped for a decent sized cap screw.
02:15 Actually I spent quite a bit of time thinking about how I was going to make this part, and eventually I figured it was probably best to start with the central hole, and then work on the perimeter. It took a bit of thought to come up with a sequence where I could make the cuts that I wanted, and still hold and locate the part
02:48 Then I milled away most of the waste stock from the perimeter so that I ended up with 2 flat surfaces on either side of the curve. My plan was to use those as a reference surface to locate the part horizontally in the vise later on in the process.
03:21 And you can see that I've left it quite a bit short of the line, mainly to give me a bit of metal to work with when I'm doing the final finishing. So with the bulk of the metal removed, I can get the curves into shape and I did that with the bench filer and the belt sander.
05:27 This one was a bit blunt and not quite long enough. So I had to nurse things along a bit to avoid chatter. I ended up with a bit more chatter than I was happy with towards the end of the cut. So I tried plunging down at full depth, and that seemed to do the job.
05:49 For the other side, I figured the plunge cuts worked so well, lets do that again, except this time it didn't work so well. There wasn't a huge amount of chatter and I was planning on hand finishing the surfaces anyway, but there you go; no more using blunt tools.
07:05 It worked out ok, but the cuts were slightly off. Luckily I had enough material to tidy up by hand so it didn't matter. So first up a bit of belt sander time to tidy up that saw cut; and I don't need those reference surfaces anymore so they can be taken to the line too.
07:39 There's a few fancy end curves to put in and just a little bit of filing and sanding, to take off the rough edges and give it a presentable surface finish.
07:59 Its still got to look good, at least until it gets all banged up. I softened the edges a bit too, some of those were still a bit sharp, and want them completely dull.
09:07 And here it is about to do its first job. I'm glad I finally got around to making this. 1/4" seems to be a standard size for pillar spigots so with a bit of luck you'll see this carrier pop up in plenty of future video's
References:
John Wilding picture of an Antique Lathe Carrier
"Tools For The Clockmaker And Repairer Part 2" pg 27
www.ritetimepublishing.com/
Music: "Pilot Error" - Kevin Macleod - incompetech.com/music/
Home Machine Shop Toolmaking, Machining A Small Lathe Carrier, by Clickspring. 
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The sighn of a true Craftsman is someone who puts a finishing face on surfaces that no one may ever see. He just needs to know that it was done right. Cheers to you mate!
7:50 There is a great satisfaction from making a beautiful part. Plus it looks good on camera!
'but I just can't help myself' is precisely why your channel is so good
I suspect a good many of us are the same, and if you make a tool as nice as this, you are absolutely going to care about surface quality.
@@TrevorDennis100
Exactly ...
I knew a toolmaker once; he is still around, abet in is 80's, and in a wheelchair due to severe foot issues, but my God ... he had a Gerstner tool cabinet nearly as old as him, which, brand new at their current prices, is eye-wateringly expensive ...
But still, even the ones he made himself you swore were made in a machine shop. Like he said to me 'take care of the tools, and the tools will take care of you ...', so making a tool that not only does the job, but _looks_ like it does the job, is just about as important as each other ...
you are a artist that's why you care for the final finish, thumbs up
My only complaint is... I blew through all your videos too fast! Seriously. A one-night binge of +Clickspring and I've already watched all of them. And I want more!
+TheAllBlackMan Ha ha! I only wish I could make them as fast as you can watch them! More on the way soon, and keep an eye out for part 2 of the gyro build on Make: later this weeks. Cheers.
+Clickspring Me too! Your work is AMAZING!
TheAllBlackMan
TheAllBlackMan - it’s definitely the best machining pr0n available on RUclips !!!
I basically just did the same thing, though there are more videos now, so it took a couple days. I stumbled onto his latest Antikythera Mechanism video, talking about the possible workshop and that was it...I had to watch them all.
My brother just showed me this channel, and I gotta admit; watching stuff like this is kinda relaxing.
+tibbus Thanks for taking the time to check it out.
"I know what you're thinking: 'it's a lathe dog. What's he doing?' I can't help it; it has to look good"
Damn it I know exactly how you feel
The 50 fps make your videos so beautiful. Great job on the quality filming
I am not, and could not be a clock maker (eyesight or lack thereof), but this is. still machining, with a good measure of art mixed in. One cannot but learn a good deal about machine work, art, beauty, and tenacity from observing such beautiful work. The photographer in me is admiring the beautiful photography which conveys the art and work so well. All this without a computer in sight. Fantastic!
If you rub your files with soap stone first it keeps them from loading up with chips. It's an old blacksmiths trick. Works real well. 😀
Thomas Van Krevelen sidewalk chalk also
Regular chalk board chalk seems to work too Don O.
I like to spray down any new files with a gun cleaner called Prolix and let them dry before use.
I'm totally with you. Pride in your tools. (Keep them clean, look after them and they'll look after you).
Just completely satisfying to watch machining video's.
Click spring, and TOT are two of the best.
Very knowledgeable in their crafts.
Absolutely love the attention to detail. My compliments on "finishing" a tool as well as you would a display. Craftsmanship in tooling is the difference between a talented person and a master craftsman
Keep up the good work and wonderfully entertaining and relaxing videos.
Thank you Tyler, terrific to have you watching :)
Taking as much pride in the tools you use as the thing you make is the way life should be! As you say, you can always remake it, so why not make it to the best of your ability? Great videos these, I'm learning so much (primarily, how far away I am from being a 'decent' machinist!!!)
Subscribed. I'm a machinist from the United States who does some work in model engineering. You have some amazing projects and detailed tutorials.
Terrific to have you watching :)
I can’t believe how much I have learned from just watching this channel. Amazing amount of tips and tricks.
I totally get why you take all the time and care for even a lathe dog. First, as you said you can’t help it 😆; second, it’s great practice for when you are doing projects where absolute precision and finish are required. I am exactly the same way with any of my model building projects. I take just as much care with parts that nobody will ever see as I do with the parts everybody will see. There is something that is soothing and relaxing with making something that exceeds your requirements of fit and finish. I love your channel my friend. It’s great inspiration to take my own work to the next level.
I don't know anything about machining, but I love watching works of art come alive...this was an elegant solution!
...However, I cringed when you put those old, rusty bolts into such a pristine piece...
Loved the presentation, voice, etc! Excellent video!
Beth Andrea Thanks very much for watching Beth, I hear you on the bolts!
You produce ridiculously high quality videos with unmatched attention to detail, to top it all off, you are very active in responding to your viewers......please don't ever change. Subscribed.
+SeriouslySharp Terrific SS, very pleased to have you sub :) Plenty more on the way. Keep an eye out for part 2 of the gyro build on the Make: channel later this week, and a new Clickspring vid next weekend.
Love watching Brass being machined well like a knife through butter
Dominic Whitbread Yes love working with brass. Thanks for watching Dominic.
It's really nice to see something made, rather, created, not just for profit but as a reflection and lovely showcase of your personalty and philosophy. Engineering and art combined. I really enjoy your videos, thank you for posting.
+Howard Bailey Cheers Howard, its great to have you watching :)
I love dykem, doing layout and using wigglers to locate. Many thanks.
i love how much pride you put into your creations, great work
Thanks for watching Jesse
mirror finishing...
doesn't matter what other people might say about your work, you can literally *see* that you did a nice job yourself...
..._in a way_, helps us to develop self confidence , a sense of self worth and get less affected by other's opinions
(I know this one didn't have an actual mirror finish, but I mean caring about how it looks to us...)
Chris, thank you. That's now on my thumb drive down in the shop and the site is bookmarked. I really enjoy your videos.
Tim
Now that's someone who takes a lot of pride in their work! Already binged through your clock making series and now taking the edge off with some of your other work. You just earned a subscriber.
Keep up the great work and I eagerly await the next video
+japes789 Thank you very much for the encouragement, and I appreciate your sub. 4 new videos on the way late next week.
Watched all the series.It's fascinating. Want to have this workshop.
40 dislikes.....!!!! wtf.......bah, I still watch every episode regularly and never find fault, no framing issues or boring content. Just great informative lessons on how to do stuff with a lathe and mill.
My plans are still on hold for my first lathe, probably a 12 inch but other things require my attention first.
Your work is amazing Chris, great to be able to fund your hobby dude, take it easy :-)
You support and encouragement mean a great deal to me Matt, thank you :)
love the attention to detail, no matter what it is its still gotta look as best it can!
There's nothing wrong with good looking shop tools.
You need make more videos, they are probably the best on RUclips. Great job!
Harold Edwards Thanks for watching Harold, more on the way!
I like the fact you are still trying to make your projects and even your home made tools look good. more and more you see people build prototypes and other various things like buildings or inventions strictly for functionality with a complete disregard for aesthetics. functionality is great but if you're able please make things look pretty too. you see all the old inventions from the Victorian era and they all looked amazing which is probably why people love steampunk so much.
Sir, I admire your skill. It is a joy to watch.
I like to see the draw-filing. A most underused and misunderstood technique.
Peter W. Meek I find its kind of relaxing too :) Thanks for watching Peter.
+Clickspring Can you do a video specifically on the drawfiling technique? I am not familiar with it.
what THATLAZYMACHINIST channel, he has a bunch of machining 101 videos and he's a really great teacher
nikotwenty I'll look up that channel sounds interesting. Thanks.
Your videos are excellent! Not only is horology fascinating, but your videography and narration are quite engaging. I look forward to seeing more. Scott
Thanks for the kind words Scott. You have the honour of being subscriber number one. I think that would normally deserve a prize.
It is my honor.
Beautiful work! Very satisfying to watch.
Can I just send all my projects to you for finishing????? You do awesome work. Thanks again for sharing!!!
well done, good job, this is the third time i watch this video, its awesome
So glad I found your channel, really interesting stuff you did. Thank you for sharing. "Just can't help yourself", I see that as someone who takes pride in their work, just like ancient machinists, you must be the new Da Vinci.
Outstanding!
Excellent close video work, and audio as well.
Your film-making skills are as smooth and polished as the beautiful brass part you've just produced.
Heirloom quality tool! Thanks for sharing.
Real man's hobby!
+Laszlo Kruppa Yes! Thanks for watching Laz
Absolutely amazing craftsmanship I’m learning a lot from your videos I’m a new subscriber and I’m working my way through your videos enjoying each one thanks for the hard graft put into these god bless
What a wonderful material brass is
Great hand finishing work, so rare these days...
I too, will move to a planet where brass is so inexpensive... ;-))
pierre beaudry Cheers Pierre :)
I am so impressed by your work, amazing!
+Tim Mann Thanks very much for checking it out Tim :)
So, you're an expert metal worker, an expert in CAD, graphically gifted, a talented movie director, producer and technic, you are incredibly patient and perfectionist, you have great narrating skills and are involved in mostly all the reactions on youtube... I bet you are a great cook as well!? ;-) In the real world you need a 20 ppl team for this. ;-) I have no affinity with metal working what so ever, but I can't stop watching your movies. Your passion and dedication is inspiring. Love it!
+Kris Philippaerts Ha ha! I could really do with those 20 people right about now! So many videos to make, so little time :) Very pleased you're enjoying the videos mate, and thank you for your support and encouragement, I appreciate it :)
Tooling should look good. In your videos your shop made tooling really stands out.
Excellent video with great attention to detail.
No shame in making things look good, especially when time isn't money as with hobby work. I'm from the USA but I recently visited the Greenwich Observatory and now I'm very taken by clock building. I'm glad to have come across your channel, I admire your attention to detail.
oink079 Thanks for watching.
Lovely job!
I love your machines! Man this is my new favorite channel!
You have got to be up to your eyeballs in brass chips. Excellent work by the way.
Nice job! 👍
Your Work is amazing!
Thanks very much for taking the time to watch Costa :)
+Clickspring dude I love your vids and I love what you do
I also love you voice you sound like a white British Morgan freeman
fo shizzle
I don't know what that means so I'll take it as a compliment
Ahhhh that came out so gooood
A craftsman at his bench.
As a hobbyist machinist I'm in the shop to enjoy making things. Doesn't matter if it's a lathe dog (carrier) or a finished product, I enjoy the process of making everything a finished product. I've watched this video and many of your videos many times because the production quality is very high and the craftmanship is equally so. Thank you for making and posting these videos. BTW what proportion of shooting to editing time is spent on most of your videos?
AWESOME VIDEOS REALLY IMPRESSED BY YOUR FINISHES WOULD LIKE TO SEE COMPLETE VIDEO ON MAKING OF YOUR HAND VISE GREAT TOOL
Excellent work, and pleasing to the eye. Very well presented video. Amazing, even for a simple project!
MrJoeGarner Thank you for watching.
Great job ,,
Accurate job, tanks!
"I thought I'd make them out of brass since **I have these huge offcuts from the clock skeleton stock**"
its lovely working with brass isnt it ? Its so soft to machine,even by hand, but not soft enough to clog up your tools and belt sander .
Your tools are nice and sharp to an edge !
Very nice
Your video is amazing, and so is your skill. Almost the best among RUclips.
Po-Ting Huang Thanks for watching Po-Ting
I love your videos and projects, so well executed!
I would like you to show us a video of the tools you have and how they operate. There are many things I don't know about drill bits, milling machine, cutters, etc. I would like to learn from you! Cheers!
Andrea Arzensek Thank you Andrea, I'm very pleased that you like the video's! I would like to start a new series of video's along the lines of what you have asked for, I just need to finish off a few more projects first. I have a number of tools that I want to get done before I branch off onto other stuff. But be assured, I have your suggestion front of mind. Keep an eye out for it over the next few months.
Excellent, no need to hurry, I learn along the way. This was the last video of yours I watched (I didn't watch them in any particular order), and I watched them all! Thank you for sharing what you do! Just lovely channel, the best thing is, I'm not even into clock making, but I'm just hooked to your channel! Keep up the great work! Cheers!
@Clickspring - I’d really love a tour of your shop and the history of how you got into this line of work... what inspired you, where you studied, what goals you have and such... it’d make a fascinating series and I would happily help in the production as both an interviewer and video filming/editing !!!
Of course you realize that those screws have to go. No my friend, it must be! If a lathe dog be made so we'll, then needs must be the screws with such skill wrought. You have to make polished, blued screws for that.
I personally would have split the part, locktited it back together to reduce the post machining and it would have given you a true diameter hole (just your comment on reaming the hole, which was then sawn through). Great to see a fellow aussie getting some due rewards in the greater world. Personally, i'm inspired by your attention to detail, especially on the video production. I make some instructional YT videos for fellow radio control enthusiasts and will be trying to step up my game partially based on your body of work. Thanks for all the work that has to go into these videos. Cheers.
+Seafury mike Cheers Mike, great to have you watching :)
Hi Chris
Great videos. We were taught that on an awkward shaft such as the pillars. if there is a tapped hole machine a screw head down on the mating screw and drive the shaft from there. Means the entire shaft is clear.
Nice one Kev, will borrow that, thank you very much for sharing :)
Chris makes a tiny mistake...I believe that's one of the 7 Seals. We are in the end times.
Beautiful, as always Chris. Uncluttered shop too. And, who keeps hitting the 'thumbs-down' button?? Probably Howard Miller LOL.
Very nice! Thanks!
Truly excellent. Now i have to go watch the whole library! Cheers Jim
phooesnax Thanks Jim.
Making new stuff the old way. I like it!
Diesel Ramcharger Cheers! Thanks for watching.
Your attention to detail completely boggles my mind
Excellent work and workmanship!
jster1963 Thanks!
I just discover this video and loved the way you fine tune your art-work. I subscribe.
+Robert Matter Thanks for watching Robert, I appreciate your sub :)
i wish i knew why any of your videos have dislikes on them, your work is absolutely amazing
jerry vella So long as you're giving them thumbs up Jerry, I'm smiling ;)
im thumbs upping all over your videos
Really great work and awesome video! I'm a woodworker but damn now I really want a mill to go with my old craftsman/atlas metal lathe (that I mostly only turn wood on).
KM Craftworks Time to pull out the tool catalogs! Thanks for watching.
THAT BRASS
Awesome, gave me an idea on how to make a mount for my next project....only I don't have a mill....gotta do it by hand
+joey243win Fun with files :) Great to have you watching
What? Bench file? What is this witch craft? This guy continues to impress. Still don't understand why he keeps saying "see you lighter" at the end of his video. 😂
I wish you showed using the wiggler because I'm still just a bit confused as to how exactly to use it.
Also I love the color schemes you use. How you always work with brass and you use that cool purplish dykem and how everything is so vibrant. So cool.
+Gunnar Eilers Hey Gunnar, keep an eye out for the next clock video on Sunday, a bit of a closer look at the wiggler in operation. Thanks for watching :)
That was truly amazing. Great video quality and amazing information. You sir have earned a subscriber.
alex peterson Terrific to hear Alex, very pleased to have your sub :)
Muy buen video
X2
Tenksfowoccing. i sa ya ladr!!! Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really nice idea .... and work you made there - thx for sharing !
Keld Sørensen Hi there Keld, great to hear from you. I love those handles you made a few months ago!
Clickspring Handles ... in fact it's nearly 1 year - times runs so fast nowadays - but thx anyway - now spring is nearly here I have to do more work in the shop ;-))
Chris I know this is supposed to be for comments but I just have to ask, have you ever been like a professor or someone who teaches coarse's on these type subjects, I only ask because of how well you're able to explain everything and obviously how adept you are in the field of machine tooling and what not...
I subscribe two days ago and I watch all your videos, some more then two times. Awesome craftsmanship and detailed videos. WOW. Great work.
-Hello from Detroit.
Elton Topalli Hi Elton, very pleased to have you aboard, thanks for watching!
thanks
great job & machine shop ! like watching you´re work & admire you´re skill ! like some of those machines you´ve got, couldn´t afford them though....maybe one day.... thanks all the same for your great video !
+bennet gordon Thanks very much for watching!
Whenever I see your work, I know I choose the wrong profession. Rob
Because you want to do what he does or because you know you can’t compete?
@@ryanrising2237 I would like to do the same. It is fantastic!!! No more silly jobs. Just do what he does. Rob
Very well done project. I have just discovered your videos and I am very impressed with work workmanship and videography. I will definitely be watching your videos in the future. Cheers.
Mike Chimko Cheers Mike, thanks for watching.
I loved the background music. What is it? I loved even more that it stayed in the background and I could easily hear your voice over it! Kudos to you!
dlwatib "Pilot Error" - Kevin Macleod - incompetech.com/music/ Thank you very much for tuning in!
good looking lathe dog carrier
Heh I'm the same when dealing with finishes. I take ages over getting rid of mold lines etc......I quite enjoy that part, getting everything to fit perfectly......hate the painting part though.
And yes I'll be making my own lathe dogs......even a cheap shitty lathe can be made better.....two projects in one........next year, I will have a lathe, not a Monarch (gods I wish I could get a 10EE) but I will be making chips....... just have to remember patience, acquire what is needed first then who knows
Thank you Chris, you are amazing. Everytime pootube pings up a new video I always watch yours first. I know I'll never be as good as you but you give me a goal, an aimpoint, a challenge
Heh, my challenge is not to break my first tool tip running the wrong speeds and feeds, hee next year is going to be interesting, You are still fucking awesome
Thank you mate!!
Hey, y'all. A little note regarding 7:55. More than thirty years ago, I was taught 'commence as you mean to continue' and I have never forgotten that vitally important lesson. If you want--for example--a reputation for doing top-quality work, then you have to *DO* top-quality work right from the start with things that nobody will see and/or care about and then never compromise for the sake of speed, convenience, or being cheaper. Mind you, 'set a pace you can maintain indefinitely' also applies; there's no point in taking on more than you can handle or pushing yourself faster than you can internalize the lessons, as you will just crash and burn eventually. A very deliberate, steady, focussed pace is the only real way to get from beginner to master.
I'm new to machining, I'm in the process of saving for milling equipment; I've seen "lathe carriers" in other videos, but I don't understand their purpose. from a neophytes point of view once the carrier got spinning, it would make the work all wobbly. it kind of eludes me.
The carrier is used to transfer the drive force of the chuck to the workpiece - alignment of the part is ensured by the 2 pivot points drilled into each end of the workpiece. The 2 points define a line, dead on the axis of the lathe. Thanks for watching and asking :)
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean by drive force of the chuck to the workpiece. does't clamping it in the check provide that function?
I found one I haven't watched! Its like that time I found a Metallica song I'd somehow never heard despite owning their discography. Very happy right now.
Hi There!
I really love this series of clockmaking videos. One thing I don't quite understand is why you are not using metric?