This was normal back in my early LTL days. Drove for St.Johnsbury and had this exact truck in red. No AC and no PS and no passenger seat. They wanted nothing but for us to work for our wages. You just had to keep tractor moving in order to muscle it into tight backing stops. lol And yes they got hot in summer time in cab. . But you had that sweet roof vent to push open. Nice ride
I worked for NPME for 20 years and none of them had power steering in the 80s nor did any U models have power steering at APA, Roadway, Sanborn's, Plymouth Rock, North Penn, Branch, etc. Mack offered those single screw LTL trucks in non-power steering for most Mack purchases. Ed Hoeflich figured we would destroy thousands of tires with or without power steering. Those old Macks really weren't that bad to steer and never nearly not as bad as the Hendrickson spring suspensions on them even backing into an alley way on Newbury St, in Boston. Your door panel video is awesome and will help with my R Model I have been restoring the past few years. Keep up the Mack videos!
I used to drive a "U" model. It was an old REAL truck and the cab was rusted OFF! The floorboard was the top of the fuel tank and the mirror brackets were flpping all over as well as the muffler. I had a ratchet strap to hold the treadle valve pedal and throttle back to a seat bracket so they'd work. It had a 237, 5-speed AND power steering and a dump. Drove fine as well as pulled but always had holes popping open in the fuel tank. Had a straight seat, no air. Good truck. Had been sitting and seems like 3 sets of fuel filters to get the water out of the fuel system. Memories. And he had a DM with no power steering too but it had a good cab. 237, 5-speed.
If you want a challenging mechanic job, (1) change the starter,(2) replace the transmission. That truck was a killer for a mechanic,but they were super reliable. They were designed for backing in and pulling out of urban sites(esp NYC), Bill
Roadway and I believe Yellow Freight, didn't spec their Tractors with Power Steering, AC, or even Electric Starters until the early to mid 2000's.... They used to say "Power Steering took the feel of the Road away from the Drivers when pulling Doubles and Triples"...... There was a few other Big LTL Freight Companies that had the same Philosophy.... Probably leaned more towards Saving a Buck or Two than it did Driver Safety!.... Haha!...
I used to drive these back in the day and the R model versions when they were new and they used to be every where and now you can't find one anywhere .
At my 1st trucking job, I drove a lot of these U-models, they were beaten and still they were out there working. A couple of years later the company took 2 of these models, extended the frames to tandem axles, and added a sleeper berth to both of them. Since they were u models the sleeper berths were custom made by the shop... they were head turners everywhere went I with them. Only bad thing was they kept the 5 speed trannys in the trucks.
Nice truck big fan of the old Mack my truck use to be a fright truck then a yard dog then I got I'm fixing it back up my is a 1969 R model thanks for sharing 👍
I drove one of these for Chrmical Lehman back in 84 but the only thing ours didn’t have was a passenger seat. Ours were tandems but we had the 300plus engines with 9 speeds. But short wheel bases because of the length limits still in effect in some East coast states. We had specially equipped combo dry van/rubber bladder 48’ trailers dedicated to Eastman Kodak for hauling bulk photo chemicals north and boxed finished photo chemicals south. And we had a couple that were set up with the Artic insulation package along with old style shutters and fan clutches for our trucks that ran into Canada. I could put that exact combo you have to work if you want to sell it.
Who needs P.S. and air cond. Most early Mscks, n others i ran were manuel everything. Reliable as any thing. Not like all new POS with sensors, air ride, DEF, etc. Pussy trucks, are always in shop
No man hardly any trucks had power steering back then and I started truck driving in 67 and just the way it was since around 90 all trucks were required to have power steering that’s why you have all these noodle arm choir boys driving now 😅
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This was normal back in my early LTL days. Drove for St.Johnsbury and had this exact truck in red. No AC and no PS and no passenger seat. They wanted nothing but for us to work for our wages. You just had to keep tractor moving in order to muscle it into tight backing stops. lol And yes they got hot in summer time in cab. . But you had that sweet roof vent to push open. Nice ride
I worked for NPME for 20 years and none of them had power steering in the 80s nor did any U models have power steering at APA, Roadway, Sanborn's, Plymouth Rock, North Penn, Branch, etc. Mack offered those single screw LTL trucks in non-power steering for most Mack purchases. Ed Hoeflich figured we would destroy thousands of tires with or without power steering. Those old Macks really weren't that bad to steer and never nearly not as bad as the Hendrickson spring suspensions on them even backing into an alley way on Newbury St, in Boston. Your door panel video is awesome and will help with my R Model I have been restoring the past few years. Keep up the Mack videos!
Nice ride!
Love that offset cab!!
I used to drive a "U" model. It was an old REAL truck and the cab was rusted OFF! The floorboard was the top of the fuel tank and the mirror brackets were flpping all over as well as the muffler. I had a ratchet strap to hold the treadle valve pedal and throttle back to a seat bracket so they'd work. It had a 237, 5-speed AND power steering and a dump. Drove fine as well as pulled but always had holes popping open in the fuel tank. Had a straight seat, no air. Good truck. Had been sitting and seems like 3 sets of fuel filters to get the water out of the fuel system. Memories. And he had a DM with no power steering too but it had a good cab. 237, 5-speed.
If you want a challenging mechanic job, (1) change the starter,(2) replace the transmission. That truck was a killer for a mechanic,but they were super reliable. They were designed for backing in and pulling out of urban sites(esp NYC), Bill
Step One in doing a clutch: remove floor.
Roadway and I believe Yellow Freight, didn't spec their Tractors with Power Steering, AC, or even Electric Starters until the early to mid 2000's.... They used to say "Power Steering took the feel of the Road away from the Drivers when pulling Doubles and Triples"...... There was a few other Big LTL Freight Companies that had the same Philosophy.... Probably leaned more towards Saving a Buck or Two than it did Driver Safety!.... Haha!...
Yellow, and Roadway had power steering by us in the 80's, CF not until the early 2000's.
I used to drive these back in the day and the R model versions when they were new and they used to be every where and now you can't find one anywhere .
At my 1st trucking job, I drove a lot of these U-models, they were beaten and still they were out there working. A couple of years later the company took 2 of these models, extended the frames to tandem axles, and added a sleeper berth to both of them. Since they were u models the sleeper berths were custom made by the shop... they were head turners everywhere went I with them. Only bad thing was they kept the 5 speed trannys in the trucks.
Nice truck big fan of the old Mack my truck use to be a fright truck then a yard dog then I got I'm fixing it back up my is a 1969 R model thanks for sharing 👍
That would make a great little dump truck for gravel and stone !
So true!
An Old Sidewinder!.... New Penn?.... NICE!
I drove one in the 80's tandem axle ran beer from Philly to North Jersey. For a small company.
I drove one of these for Chrmical Lehman back in 84 but the only thing ours didn’t have was a passenger seat. Ours were tandems but we had the 300plus engines with 9 speeds. But short wheel bases because of the length limits still in effect in some East coast states. We had specially equipped combo dry van/rubber bladder 48’ trailers dedicated to Eastman Kodak for hauling bulk photo chemicals north and boxed finished photo chemicals south. And we had a couple that were set up with the Artic insulation package along with old style shutters and fan clutches for our trucks that ran into Canada.
I could put that exact combo you have to work if you want to sell it.
How many drivers whinned every day aboit the trucks but still came to work and drive one every day. Especially union drivers.
I drove for New England motor freight in Buffalo around 2000 and had the "pleasure" of a mack truck spec'd like that. Yeah it sucked
Looks like a New Penn tractor, I drove a new one in 84 a it had a air to air maxidyne 5 speed and it was strong
Very cool!!!!
Old school
Non power steering made you plan ahead more.
Leave room to get the wheels rolling, then steer.
I drove a tandem axle here in Texas and it was a end dump
It has Armstrong steering
Thanks from Australia common terms
Who needs P.S. and air cond. Most early Mscks, n others i ran were manuel everything. Reliable as any thing. Not like all new POS with sensors, air ride, DEF, etc. Pussy trucks, are always in shop
No man hardly any trucks had power steering back then and I started truck driving in 67 and just the way it was since around 90 all trucks were required to have power steering that’s why you have all these noodle arm choir boys driving now 😅