I had ordered the CSM Combat Patrol with full intention of painting Black Legion. Then I saw this video. Yeah, it's no contest. Immediately ordered a can of Leadbelcher along with Akhelian Green and Contrast Medium. As someone new to the hobby, I can't thank you enough for providing such a clear and (hopefully) easy method of getting phenomenal results. If mine come out looking even half as good as the one in this video, I'll be thrilled. Thanks again!
When I did this I didn't have any Contrast medium and didn't feel like running out to get some so I used the green straight and it looks ok to me so not bad.
That's strange. You got very stunning blue color in result, which I really would like to have on my legionaries. But following same recipe my 2 models turned more greenish. Maybe I added too much medium?
You can still do this with an Airbrush on vehicles. Prime Black, Dry brush generously with a bright silver then airbrush the contrast on it, you'll get the same effect as the marines, but it only works right with the airbrush
Love watching all of your artwork come together and seeing what the finished piece looks like, it always turns out super dope! All of the details and colors you put into your work always looks amazing as well! I do speed drawings on my channel sometimes lol, keep up the incredible work!
Love this. Had been trying a few other paints and guides. Yours was straightforward and easiest to follow. One question: any suggestion if I should use a brush to maintain panels of silver vs using an airbrush with Akhelian green? Any tips or pros/cons? (I’m looking for the fastest way possible lol)
thank you for the reply. After having a go myself I would also say you need to be a bit brave (and steady handed) to get into the hard to reach places! Bearing in mind you can always fix it after...@@criticalhitwargaming5290
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm doing the Akhelian Green + Contrast Medium but when I apply it to the model it goes on kind of thick and leaves behind some dark sploches and streaks. Do you water down the mix? I assume it's just the AG + CM then applied to the model, no water included. I primed the model with Leadbelcher spray can primer, applied the Nuln Oil and drybrushed the Runefang Steel.
Contrast Paint is a bit of a pain in the arse to use. It's not watered down at all, but you need more on your brush than you'd use for normal paint, and you need to make sure you don't ever paint over an area you've just painted. You'll see in the video I never go over the same bit twice, or it ends up drying exactly as you have described.
WoW!! Can I do the same thing with black legion and undercoat it with gold >> nuln oil >> abaddon black? then fill in the highlights with a silver and red ? ty bro and nice work
Black Legion it's actually quicker to paint the gold trim on Black armour, believe it or not. Painting Black over a gold undercoat would take substantially longer. :( I know this as I have tried!
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 i really like the look of your alpha legion and word bearers minis, specifically the shading on the silver and the metallic red/turqoise Can I paint black legion in a similar fashion? and if so what colours would i need (for this same look) cheers
@@persiusjackson6673 You can paint them the same way, yes, but in all honesty it doesn't look particularly good and it takes a long time. Black Legion are black and gold, and black contrast over gold undercoat looks really awful. Which means you need to undercoat it silver, do the black, and then manually paint in all the gold trim. This will probably take you over an hour per model. The best thing to do would be to replicate the Alpha Legioj scheme, but use black instead. Just do black and silver Black Legion, which wouldn't look bad and is still 'lore friendly' as the Black Legion warbands wear lots of different styles of armour, as long as the main colour is black.
Only out of an airbrush, unfortunately. Such is the curse of metallic paints. You can pick up a basic airbrush and compressor from Amazon for £45, that's all I use for basecoating models.
@martinwright4063 You might just get away with a hellbrute, but it won't go on a Venomcrawler or Forgefiend. I mean obviously the paint will physically go on it if you put it on there, but it doesn't dry nice and smooth, it dries with brush streaks and dark lines all over it. The maximum area you can apply contrast without this happening is about 1cm squared. Anything bigger, and it needs to be an airbrush really. Like I said, they're super cheap off Amazon if you just need one for basecoating stuff.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 Appreciate it. How much do you thin it in the airbrush? Still 1:1 with the contrast medium, but how much thinner do you add on top of it.
Great video, but on contrast step I failed. I can apply that smooth and even. It seems I'll stick with my night lord scheme using regular paints and freeze project Alpharius project =\ . Maybe I will try again after some months but now all inspirations is lost(
I'll assume you meant you can't apply it smooth and even - to fix that, make sure you have plenty on your brush. Contrast paint requires one thick layer, you'll notice in the video I never go over the same spot I've already painted and I always have plenty on my brush. Otherwise it goes thin and streaky. Give it a bit of practice and you'll be away! I also have a Night Lords tutorial on the channel, you can get them done pretty quickly too.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 thank you! I'll try to finish this test model later and apply satin varnish to see how it will look after it. If ok, I'll try once more on special model with some nice conversions that I planned. As for the NL - I managed to make for my self pretty solid color scheme that forgive mistakes (paintin something over this contrast areas now will be in my nightmares). But yes, it takes a lot of time to main my scheme and it's heavily depends on old Nuln oil, so I already bought myself 10 pots. Hope that will be enough for rest of my life)
Probably about even to be honest! I'm not really a fan of the giant daemon machines like Forgefiends etc, but I like the lore and the straight up marine vs marine battles. Should probably switch to Horus Heresy really lol. I just have an abundance of both loyal and heretic Marines at the moment so figured I'd do a few schemes!
Yes and no. Contrast Medium weakens the colour by diluting it and spreading out the pigment, so it may go on slightly smoother at the expense of the intensity of the colour.
@@malyxxplays7949 If you watch when I paint the contrast on, I never paint over the same area with more than one or two strokes. That's when it starts to streak. You also need to have a fair amount of contrast paint on your brush compared to regular paint.
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I had ordered the CSM Combat Patrol with full intention of painting Black Legion. Then I saw this video. Yeah, it's no contest. Immediately ordered a can of Leadbelcher along with Akhelian Green and Contrast Medium. As someone new to the hobby, I can't thank you enough for providing such a clear and (hopefully) easy method of getting phenomenal results. If mine come out looking even half as good as the one in this video, I'll be thrilled. Thanks again!
Fantastic. Looks just as good as the miniatures painted in 20-30 minute videos. Thx!
Thanks a lot!
Simple but might be one of my favourite Alpha Legion schemes
This is absolutely phenomenal
When I did this I didn't have any Contrast medium and didn't feel like running out to get some so I used the green straight and it looks ok to me so not bad.
That's strange. You got very stunning blue color in result, which I really would like to have on my legionaries. But following same recipe my 2 models turned more greenish. Maybe I added too much medium?
Ha! I’m halfway done with a Dark Apostle using virtually this same method! Thank you for showing how it’ll work! Yours looks beautiful.
Ok the Silver base with the blue/green on top and how quick it came out blew my mind.
Great, isn't it?
You can still do this with an Airbrush on vehicles. Prime Black, Dry brush generously with a bright silver then airbrush the contrast on it, you'll get the same effect as the marines, but it only works right with the airbrush
Great work mate 😁
Thanks dude!
this looks really good... even for a pre heresy alpha legion scheme i bet this would look amazing on those guys...
Love watching all of your artwork come together and seeing what the finished piece looks like, it always turns out super dope! All of the details and colors you put into your work always looks amazing as well! I do speed drawings on my channel sometimes lol, keep up the incredible work!
Thanks buddy! I'll check out your stuff. :) Let me know if there's anything in particular you'd like to see!
going to use this color scheme on my helldrake and lord discordant
Love this. Had been trying a few other paints and guides. Yours was straightforward and easiest to follow. One question: any suggestion if I should use a brush to maintain panels of silver vs using an airbrush with Akhelian green? Any tips or pros/cons? (I’m looking for the fastest way possible lol)
nice vid man!
beautiful work! i subbed!
Thanks very much!
His Alpha Legionnaire must be hiding in the Ultramarines it's so blue.
Great video and looks amazing. I'm currently using this method and waned to know how you did the chest without subassembly?
Paint what you can see! Everything else is hidden so it doesn't matter so much. 🫨
thank you for the reply. After having a go myself I would also say you need to be a bit brave (and steady handed) to get into the hard to reach places! Bearing in mind you can always fix it after...@@criticalhitwargaming5290
What a guy!
Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm doing the Akhelian Green + Contrast Medium but when I apply it to the model it goes on kind of thick and leaves behind some dark sploches and streaks.
Do you water down the mix? I assume it's just the AG + CM then applied to the model, no water included. I primed the model with Leadbelcher spray can primer, applied the Nuln Oil and drybrushed the Runefang Steel.
Contrast Paint is a bit of a pain in the arse to use. It's not watered down at all, but you need more on your brush than you'd use for normal paint, and you need to make sure you don't ever paint over an area you've just painted. You'll see in the video I never go over the same bit twice, or it ends up drying exactly as you have described.
WoW!! Can I do the same thing with black legion and undercoat it with gold >> nuln oil >> abaddon black? then fill in the highlights with a silver and red ?
ty bro and nice work
Black Legion it's actually quicker to paint the gold trim on Black armour, believe it or not. Painting Black over a gold undercoat would take substantially longer. :( I know this as I have tried!
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 i really like the look of your alpha legion and word bearers minis, specifically the shading on the silver and the metallic red/turqoise
Can I paint black legion in a similar fashion? and if so what colours would i need (for this same look)
cheers
@@persiusjackson6673 You can paint them the same way, yes, but in all honesty it doesn't look particularly good and it takes a long time. Black Legion are black and gold, and black contrast over gold undercoat looks really awful. Which means you need to undercoat it silver, do the black, and then manually paint in all the gold trim. This will probably take you over an hour per model.
The best thing to do would be to replicate the Alpha Legioj scheme, but use black instead. Just do black and silver Black Legion, which wouldn't look bad and is still 'lore friendly' as the Black Legion warbands wear lots of different styles of armour, as long as the main colour is black.
Why are you painting a chaos space marine with alpha legion colour 🤔🤔🤔
Would this work on vehicles like Venom Crawlers, Helbrutes, forgefiend and obliterators?
Only out of an airbrush, unfortunately. Such is the curse of metallic paints. You can pick up a basic airbrush and compressor from Amazon for £45, that's all I use for basecoating models.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 Would it work on Helbrutes, Venom Crawlers, and Forgefiends? Those CSM vehicles aren't too flat for contrast?
@martinwright4063 You might just get away with a hellbrute, but it won't go on a Venomcrawler or Forgefiend. I mean obviously the paint will physically go on it if you put it on there, but it doesn't dry nice and smooth, it dries with brush streaks and dark lines all over it. The maximum area you can apply contrast without this happening is about 1cm squared.
Anything bigger, and it needs to be an airbrush really. Like I said, they're super cheap off Amazon if you just need one for basecoating stuff.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 Appreciate it. How much do you thin it in the airbrush? Still 1:1 with the contrast medium, but how much thinner do you add on top of it.
@@martinwright4063 just a couple of drops for airbrush medium/flow improver, it doesn't take much at all.
really nice, do you plan on doing Iron Warriors?
There's already some super quick Iron Warriors guides out there so I was going to skip them tbh!
Great video, but on contrast step I failed. I can apply that smooth and even.
It seems I'll stick with my night lord scheme using regular paints and freeze project Alpharius project =\ . Maybe I will try again after some months but now all inspirations is lost(
I'll assume you meant you can't apply it smooth and even - to fix that, make sure you have plenty on your brush. Contrast paint requires one thick layer, you'll notice in the video I never go over the same spot I've already painted and I always have plenty on my brush. Otherwise it goes thin and streaky.
Give it a bit of practice and you'll be away! I also have a Night Lords tutorial on the channel, you can get them done pretty quickly too.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 thank you! I'll try to finish this test model later and apply satin varnish to see how it will look after it. If ok, I'll try once more on special model with some nice conversions that I planned.
As for the NL - I managed to make for my self pretty solid color scheme that forgive mistakes (paintin something over this contrast areas now will be in my nightmares). But yes, it takes a lot of time to main my scheme and it's heavily depends on old Nuln oil, so I already bought myself 10 pots. Hope that will be enough for rest of my life)
Can I ask, do you prefer Chaos Space Marines or Loyalist Space Marines? From both a painting and just aesthetic standpoint
Probably about even to be honest! I'm not really a fan of the giant daemon machines like Forgefiends etc, but I like the lore and the straight up marine vs marine battles. Should probably switch to Horus Heresy really lol. I just have an abundance of both loyal and heretic Marines at the moment so figured I'd do a few schemes!
Would contrast medium help with the streaks you get from contrast?
Yes and no. Contrast Medium weakens the colour by diluting it and spreading out the pigment, so it may go on slightly smoother at the expense of the intensity of the colour.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 I've been doing mine the same way this one was done but yours is so much neater.
@@malyxxplays7949 If you watch when I paint the contrast on, I never paint over the same area with more than one or two strokes. That's when it starts to streak. You also need to have a fair amount of contrast paint on your brush compared to regular paint.
@@criticalhitwargaming5290 thanks buddy! Hopefully over time I'll get better.
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