Do Gun Finishes/Coatings Last? How Long? (Cerakote, Duracoat, Aluma Hyde II, Krylon, Blueing)
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025
- The most popular question I get is how long will gun and firearm finishes/coatings (Cerakote, Duracoat, Aluma Hyde II, Krylon, Blueing)
last? I get asked how my gun coatings are lasting (Cerakote, Duracoat, Aluma Hyde II, Krylon, Blueing). I answer it time and time again, so I figured a video would address this question much better than in a message. Just remember, any coating/finish (Cerakote, Duracoat, Aluma Hyde II, Krylon, Blueing) will come off at some point. Use your guns, don't baby them and then you won't have to worry about it!
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Best coating is care maintenance and battlescars. I am proud of every mark on my guns and most have a memory attached. Great video! Thanks for saying what was needed to be said.
Anytime, thanks for watching!
agreed
Krylon paint. Used it on my Rifle while deployed in Iraq. Works good enough.
That's why I just polished my G29 slide to a mirror finish got tired of the finnish scratching. Cool looking and it's stainless steel. It works for me.
Mirror finish to resist scratching.... haha... and Glock slides arent made of stainless
@@BahbahKaduche Well for some weird reason my polished G29 slide gets my sweat all over it and never rusted on me after 4.5 years. Isn't that the darndest thing.
Any metal can be polished to a mirror like finish.@@BahbahKaduche
glock slides ain’t stainless you just made your gun more prone to rust congrats.
Great vid, thanks for keeping it simple and real. In my experience I have never seen any firearm that gets regular use not have signs of use, or wear and tear regardless of the type of paint job or coating.
Agreed!
Excellent video dude! I hate watching videos where you can tell they care more about cool hair, perfect soundtrack, and script than getting the info out.
say "for the most part" one more time
for the most part.
hahaha thanks man!
I think a well worn finish on any rifle or gun looks good, but that is just me.
See I’m a perfectionist, I’m also a teen (16), about 5 months ago at the end of February, early March my father purchased me and him Daniel defense V7 Ar-15s. Mine is deeps woods cerkote and his is a brown cerkote. I love the look of the rifle and even though I take care of it and clean it after every use, I still hate seeing wear from normal use. It has about 600-700 rounds through it. eg. Ejector ramp marks where the cerakote has come off due to rounds hitting it when they eject out. Etc These videos just help ease my mind. Thanks
Wow! A Daniel Defense? I can’t afford that and I’m 40! I’m slowly building my own version of a pistol based on the DDM4 because I can buy great quality parts over time, but wish someone would buy me a Daniel Defense. I hope you are safe and responsible with it and that get a lot of great moments with your Dad. Mine is a felon so we can’t bond over guns but I wish we could.
Bahaha that Bill O'reilly freakout introduction 😁
out of curiosity, was this question asked by guys who have lifted trucks with 22 or 24 inch rims and mud tires that never go off-roading and just hang out at the mall?
Good video, but I was hoping you would rank them based on your experience.... I mean a can of Aluma Hyde costs $13 and a can of Gun Kote costs $31, is Gun Kote worth 2.5x Aluma Hyde based on wear resistance.
Ditto
I've used both, on several guns: Alumahyde II on my two WASR Ak's in matte black. Gunkote on my Beretta 92. Gunkote is much, much tougher and more wear resistant than Alumahyde, I'm not sure how best to illustrate it but I know solvents like short spritz of brake cleaner cause little finish removal on Gunkote whereas, you risk taking off the Alumahyde if you wipe it hard with brake cleaner or acetone. My guns are strictly range use so to me it doesn't make a difference but, if I wanted maximum toughness I'm using Gunkote.
Glad someone said it! Thanks brother
If you use your gone and holster it, nothings gonna last. I need something in stainless. 300 bucks every year is getting old. Baked rattle can woulda held up as well as cerakote.
Mine are cerakoted and I just deal with it. But it seems we use and train with our firearms, unlike most that watch this video. Haha.
Likely DuraCoat firearms Finish is almost as durable as Cerakote type C. (when items are properly prepped)
Prepping is for winners. 🤙
The coating has to be good technology.The point is coatings are only as good as the pre-treatment process. The process we use at our plant can provide much better durability than the OE finish that comes on a Glock slide or any slide, or barrel. Our chemical processing does truckload quantities, so it a half a million dollar system including a waste water treatment system. Then again other DIY processes can be improved greatly if done correctly. Only cleaning the substrate as with the Aluna-Hyde product, is not capable of holding up because of the lack of necesary pre-treatment. Anything coated is only as good as the pre-treat process.
2:50 “you have a pipe that your smoking, you’re gonna wear that pipe down, you’re gonna wear down the stem” 🤨 odd analogy... buuut I’ll go with it 😁🤙🏼
In the Good Ole days guns had Blueing on them .. and it was easy for rust to go through the Blueing.. It's my Impression that Cerekote is much more Corrision resistant
I got my m4 new out of the box by the time I got back from Iraq that gun looked like chrome where it rubbed against my gear
On a side note you can always reapply cerakote
LMAO… you had me with the intro! Great video. For real.
I shoot almost every weekend with my ARs. I’ve applied some industrial coatings they use on oil field parts. My AR is hard to overheat and the coating isn’t coming off without blasting lol.
Same principle as a car paint job. The more you have that car out on the road and use it in various conditions, the more wear and tear the factory paint job is going to suffer.
Do finishes last? No.......Why Not?.......Because friction exists.
Friction is the reason no finish will ever last. There is maybe a handful of things that can defy friction, finishes are not one of them.
Well worded video.
Honestly the only thing I want to come off my guns are every law restriction on them at the moment.
A worn blued finish is the best lookin
Indeed... Looks cool...
Paint looks, well...Gay.
I have an 80% receiver in the RAW that I need a finish on. Looking at Alumna Hyde...
😍I wanna Swede for my 80% raw Lower.....😉
My rustoleum camoed for 12$ ar has lasted far longer than my 200 $ cerakoted pistol
Damn. I didn’t know you put your AR in a holster.
lol sure it did 😂🤡. Who are u trying to fool?
Cerakote can suck if its not prepared properly.
Bottom line is firearms are tools. Tools get scratched,dented, knicked ect.. Cerakote is ok, I shoot frequently and holster wear is noticeable even with light use, just get over it, or don't use your guns, I'll buy them and scratch them for free hehe
A Hernandez truly agree!!!
Besides all those keyboard warriors say they want battle worn or they are fucking weird and paint it that way
A well processed firearm using cerekote should not show wear so soon, and by soon I mean within a year of frequent firing & holstering.. you do you use to cerakote now ?
@@couch405 i just put a 34 together for my girl for christmas its tiffany blue cerakoted. We stopped at the range on sunday and she ran 50 to 75 rounds through it and the coating is completely worn off on the breach and spots inside the slide on the part that picks up the next round and chipped at the ejection port from brass hitting it. I contacted the people i bought the slide from and sent pictures and they told me its normal wear. They offered to re do it but i declined.
@@Jimmykid3 that's because inner parts don't need the extra tolerances from a coating even thousands of inches will mess up tolerances
Here's the key you're missing here....coming from an ex autobody technician...first sand down to bare metal with 300-400 grit, then blow off particles with compressor and clean with wax and grease remover and tack cloth. Primer it--piss it on...use black self etching primer if doing dark colors and grey primer if using light colors. Self etching primer has adhesion promotion as well and will make the paint last much longer and not flake though proper sanding going from course to light is key here first and foremost. After you would usually wet sand it but that will be too messy and you couldn't get every crevice anyways so dry sand it going from 600 to 800 grit. Blow off using compressor then clean again with wax and grease remover using a tack cloth. Now you can paint. Piss it on using 4-5 layers letting it dry between each. Don't apply 2 thicker coats or it will turn out like shit and not adhere very well like it seems you may be experiencing from watching your video. Let it fully dry and you should have the parts hanging allowing them to air dry as well. Make sure you strain the paint if going the cerakote method but I personally am going to do this to my Mossberg Maverick 88 that I got that has an adjustable tactical stock but was coated with what looks like raptor liner when I bought it for $80. If you prep it this way using gloves and following all steps you will have a finish that will last much much longer than what you're experiencing here no matter if using cerakote or not. Cerakote is great but not great enough to justify spending $70 on a pint just yet. ;P
Other than being very monotone, great video! Thanks!
cold bluing is cheap and not great but relatively easy to reapply at home.
If you don't give a shit about what your guns looks like, why would you ever coat your guns? Seems like a waist of time and money, for the most part.
Well people want individuality I guess. Good point though.
I have a benelli sbe original. The receiver isn't that badly off but I want to cerakote it. Do I have to completely remove the original finish or can I ruff it up evenly and then coat it?
Raihan Mohammed fully bead blast strip then degrease the hell out of it.
A good battle-worn cerakote solves all issues. lol Good video man.
Boom!
What about that DLC ?
Any coating wears off if you train with your guns. If it just goes into a safe and you shoot it twice a year, it will last forever!
Where'd you get your hat?
I totally agree with man. And on the other hand cerakote is more durable but environment always change and cerakote is expensive to keep changing with rattle cans you can change color as much as you like you can get a lot of cans for the price of a cerakote job
Love the pipe analogy
I think as time go's buy you will see new indestructible finishes replace paint on firearms. Most of the finishes like Robar, NP-3 , Nitex resulted from off shore oil drilling rigs in a never ending fight to keep the saltwater from damaging the fittings then used on firearms latter. These fitting are subjected to not only the saltwater but very high pressures at depth for years. So they will find a better way to cover firearms with a more permanent coating sooner or later.
Do off shore drilling rigs take Glock mags?
Dino Nucci
Yeah i always take my mags with me when i head out to the platform. I also make various mags while in out on the platform in the sheet metal shop i run. We have some impervious ways to make metal last for weeks, hehe hahehae haw
Either you just refinished your gun or you don’t use it enough. Couldn’t have said it better myself. For the most part I try to keep my hunting guns from getting rusted or scratched, but most of them have signs of being carried in the woods. With ar and ak platforms and pretty much all handguns that are being used harder, I could care less if it’s scratched as long as it functions.
Police abd lawyers say if you are put in a situation where you have to shoot someone and say the gun you have is all decorated and "tacticool" it can look bad and questionable in a court case or when being questioned. It is yiur right but it's something to take into consideration.
While yes, it is an overblown concern. The same argument could be made for painting your car versus getting in an accident. Saying you meant to drive fast, etc. Every situation and jury is different.
Do you know if cerakote can be applied over an existing PVD coating?
Not sure. If you send it out somewhere, they will probably sandblast it off before cerakoting.
how does factory paint last forever? what kind of paint they use?
If you use you firearm, and go to training, it should not.
@@CaptainBerz how can you clean some foam hardened from storing in the case too long? i tried wd40 it removed some but its very hard
I would like to know the compensator on that AR-15 you have and the length of the device where did you get it? Thanks
OSS Bannar Alpha 1. One of the best. Great for team mates not getting blasted. V-blast out front, versus others that blast out the sides.
Even a Type 3 class 2 comes off easy... Good review, at least you can always repair finishes. If you are collecting, sure put it in a safe, they are excellent investments. If someone bead blasts your firearm it's not going to look good reanaodized.
If youre scared to scratch it, it not a gun. Its a trophy
You can save ALOT of money on a gun if you buy a model that doesn't sell and you cerakote it to look like you want.
Case in point. Sig Alloy p226 elite. This gun is in an alloy version that %99 of ppl don't like but the gun comes with siglite sights, SRT trigger and extended beaver tail and it's less than $900 where a normal elite runs $1200-$1300 at least.
So buy the gun and get it cerakoted and boom you've just save $200 bucks or more for an awesome gun that looks EXACTLY like you want it.
ZFlyingVLover im that 1% that likes the alloy, i would never cerakote a stainless gun
duradize from durakote is incredibly tough, I sprayed a set of outer fork tubes for a dirt bike when it came out and it still looks good years later. Probably wouldn't look good on a gun tho.
“Fuck it we’ll do it live” is that a Bill O’Reilly reference?
No, Fred Flintstone. Season 4 of Flintstones.
no I'm not worried if it's going to last forever what I'm worried about is it going to fall off with a couple of scratches
Fall off?
What do you think about cerakote the buffer tube? It will last?
Is cerakote the most durable? If not what is?
It is one of the most durable. But anything wears off if you use it.
😂😂 FUCK IT WE’ll DO IT LIVE.....FUCKIN THING SUXXX! “Bill O’Reilly”
Moly resin vs bad ass cerakote pattern?
what do you recommend for a 1984 browning bar with wood furnature? I need to coat it with something because it rust just taking it out of the case between hunting trips. Has a few bluing blemishes on the barrel also.
For hunting rifle, if you Cerakote it you should get a lifetime out of it. Tons of colors that look like a blueing.
If they want that old school blueing look, I recommend Sniper Grey Cerakote to my customers. It has an oily, pencil graphite look to it like old gun metal. One of my absolute favorite colors.
Also one thing you didnt mention in the video was the feeling of cerakote vs alumahyde2 and the 8 dollar rustoleum that's my concern I understand some will last a bit longer but the process is lengthy. I do get that it all comes off. But what is the best feeling? Would putting a base of alumahyde or cerakote, waiting a few weeks then applying the cheaper camo paints to apply the patterns and not spend 20 dollars or more work since we are all trying to save money. I get the cheaper paints will wear away quicker the more you use it just asking if this method has been used and to any noticeable benefits? I dont see any videos of people doing this. Watched many videos spray painted everything on earth except my rifles but I agree the black color is frightening to liberals and non gun users. Would the asian kid from Fordham be kicked out of school If he camo painted that gun in pink he was charged with intimidation. Was just a photo. This is why after 14 years I've finally decided to do a paint job.
Rattle can FTW. If you want your gun to disappear rattle can it. If you want to stand out at the range do the fancy coatings.
I think the strongest coating is diamond coat anodizing
This guy is the male version of a Valley Girl.
Unrelated question , what is the barrel and Handguard length ? I have that oss break and you have the look I'm trying to get .
Appreciate it
Stainless Steel works great !
Unless you are trying to hide.
i misread the title terribly, do guns finish last... ooh hoo i was bout to say damn they nut quicker than 2 second
What color backdrop is that?
Thanks that was really a helpful guide. Cheers
What about NP3 or NP3+ finish I’m hearing if you have the entire pistol done it has no friction and you’ll have a smoother trigger and action in general. Also hear it doesn’t wear as easy ass all the other coatings?
Rustoleum and Krylon on my rifles. Shit, Ive even used spray on bed liner before😂. Worked great. It protected my undercoat of krylon.
I generally stick to DIY Krylon paint jobs. My main concern now is will my gun rust under the finish? I watched another youtube channel, where this company is selling stencils to use with all types of painting styles, including Krylon, and in his very next video, tries to sell his Cerakote paint jobs, and saying how it's stupid to spray paint you firearm with Krylon, because moisture is going to get under the paint and the gun will rust. Kind of contradictory. So what do we do to keep our weapon from rusting after painting with Krylon, or anything else for that matter?
They are not rusting under the Krylon. If so SOF wouldn't be doing it. They are just trying to sell a paint job.
That was my first thought. Thank you sir...
The only coating I've ever worked with that seemed totally invincible was chromium carbide. That shit is damn near indestructible.
Wgats your take ke on duracoat vs cerakote. Just as good or not as good
Fuck it, we'll do it live!
You lost me at the wooden sling shot cerakote job....jk....very informative and just bought 2 surplus Berrettas and Im going to cerakote them. I know what to expect now.
Are there any of these that aren't good on plastic? I thought Aluma Hyde II was supposed to be just for aluminum until I just saw a video where a guy sprayed all his polymer parts with it lol. Just wondering which of these I can use without having to break the rifle all the way down. Had a hell of a time getting this one receiver lapped in the way I wanted it and the barrel nut torque right, I'm not breaking that rifle down again just for a paint job.
I use any spray paint. I like Alumahyde, Krylon, Rustoleum, etc. All work well on polymer.
As a paintguy I can tell you: There is no paint for ALL materials. Wood is "moving/working", just as plastic, contracts, expands. A glass-hard paint wont even make sense there. If you want something durable, you need stuff you cure in the oven @150°C or powder. 2K@roomtemp, I dont really trust it. The cap says it holds up on his gun (thats why I am here, to hear that from an actual user), awesome, but I doubt its the best there is.
A whole video on finish durability without showing one durability test or comparison…🤔
Yea, they all wear off if you actually use and train with you firearms.
@@CaptainBerz I am well aware, however it would’ve been nice to see what it actually takes to scratch the varying materials. Surface hardness is one of the big proponents to something like Cerakote, and the downside to the traditional rattle can finishes. It would’ve been nice to see an actual comparison on something like a test piece, that’s all.
In my opinion it doe not matter. Nothing in the end works and it is a battle not worth wasting money on. Again in my opinion. I have a cerkoted Glock I use for CCW. It was worn in a week of carrying in certain areas, the same as other finishes with other Glocks I use.
What if you take a clear coat; spray ie; alumnihyde etc. and spray it over the Cerakote. Can you do this and will it make your finish last longer if you keep clear coat periodical touch up's?
What about an anodized metal and if so most likely a clear coat over it how long would that last do you think
Found this Vid after a couple months of buying my first cerakoted and 1911, and has left me feeling even more confident about my purchase. I’m not getting anywhere worrying about low surface rust. Now I’m getting ideas of what should be the next paint scheme for the ‘11.
Ha! The 1 in 9 spin zone!
Great vid my guns are tools I don't give a damn what it looks like if works 100% that's what counts.
Guess you've never heard of hard chrome.
+uclajd not at all, what's that? Smh
clear exhaust header coating?
anybody?
Thank you for this.
Great video.
What do you think of dura coat finishes ?
They are all the same in the end. They wear off.
Ooooh i like that grip
The idea behind a finish isn’t necessarily for looks as much as it is to protect your gun. With that said, if I’m spending over $1000 on a gun, I expect to finish the last for more than a year. Can you imagine if a car dealer looked at you and said, you’ll be lucky to get a year out of that paint job on a brand new car. LOL
Nearly everything white in the 90s lol. They flaked something aweful! Lol
Great video as usual. i have been looking into brownells Teflon/Moly gun finish is supposed to be very durable and have the added benefit of lowe friction to a point where they claim it self lubricates. Only reason i even want to finish/refinish any part of my AR is because it was a build. my upper is finished in nickle Teflon and anodized.. so i pray to closely match it,not sure is i can paint over it.
Interesting. I am not into painting moving parts or internals. Hope it matches for you.
CaptainBerz copy that
Just cerakoted my 1985 CZ 75 pre-B. In love all over again. My son will inherit this gun and he can cerakote it again if he wants to. I'm done.
The factory finish on my VP9 looks more like a dark gray/battle worn finish after just a year n a half of going in and out of my holster and normal use. No, no coating holds up for long. BUT, I must have gotten a mutant can of Krylon once. An ar mag I painted (khaki). That "finish" is in better condition than any of my factory finished mags and I beat the hell out of it. That one's just an oddity.
U act like ppl who take shooting classes are going to be scraping their gun on the floor
You hat is down all the way to your eyebrows. Lmao. But great video broham
I agree rifles are meant to be used and not safe queens.
hahahaha O'rielly....fuck it! we'll do it live! Great Berz
I guess I could say all my videos are that way. I just turn on the camera and talk. Haha.
Grow up, son!
"Profanity proves neither toughness nor intelligence, only a lack of self-control, morals, maturity, language skills and character." -BLD
Berz, what camera do you use? the clarity is unbelievable.
Panasonic something or other. It is like 3-4 years old. Not a DSLR or anything. Lighting is key!
That was a nice looking sling on the hunting rifle anybody know who makes it?
Perfect EXPLANATION OF SACRIFICIAL COATINGS! I'll send people who don't get that here.
Nothing last forever. But taking care of your shit can go a long way ..
A firearm is a tool not a decorative piece Haha. Awesome video
Right on!
This sounds like someone who just uses spray paint and comes up with an argument of why he doesn't go higher quality. I use my AR all the time, but I was also taught to treat it like it could save my life if I take care of it. Yeah there are nicks and scratches here and there, but the anodized paint on it isnt chipping or falling off.
Just stating the obvious. Cerakote, which I have on some guns, just takes longer to wear off. But it does wear off. Spray paint I do does not chip or randomly fall off either.
I only shoot 500 rounds a year in each of my guns. Can’t afford more so if I cerkote my handgun or AR it’ll last for years.
Kyle Garcia why not spend the money on more rounds to train with as opposed to spending it on cerakote.
What about powder coating? I recently bought a powder coating system to do parts of my gsxr and they've been holding up amazingly so now I'm wondering how it would hold up on a rifle barrel or maybe a lower receiver. Anybody have any experience with powder coating gun parts?
Am I the only one who is irked by the shooting at 2:47? Why is there a drill with two people down range?
If you are following all the safety rules, where was one broken? Fudd.
Your hat. Where did you get it?
I. Must. Have. One.
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