Good on Kawasaki for working on the technology. It's first gen so I would not be too critical. The next generations should be better and hopefully lighter.
This feels too immature even for a 1st gen. Maybe they should have had developed further its implementation before hitting the market and expecting users to debug it.
@@ALIENdrifter66 my car is plug-in hybrid. I think it's the best of both worlds. I don't think the goal is to eliminate gas, I think the goal is to just reduce our need for it as much as we can. With the PHEV, you can cover most of your daily errands with zero gas whatsoever, but then when you need to go further, you can just go... They also only use a small battery so it's more earth friendly there too once the car is dead. Obviously if you live 50 miles from your workplace, this might not be the tech for you... If they could make decent phev bikes... that could be fun!
For city dwellers like me, this could easily be two bikes in one. All-electric mode for the daily commute, hybrid sport mode for the weekend rides. Hopefully future hybrid bikes will look a little better-proportioned and regain left-foot shift levers so we can at least pretend it's a normal motorcycle transmission with a quickshifter.
@@Jaszczur-sp2txa bike like this is more than its spec sheet. Hybrid bikes have tons of potential and I’ll probably own one in the future. Just waiting for the tech to develop a little more
There's been mention of a Versys-like hybrid being developed. Definitely interested to see how it will handle touring, especially if you can run it in eco and get a greatly extended range (300-400+ miles). To me, something like that makes sense for a hybrid.
This is a good start imo. The seamless switching from engine to electric is possible as the electrically assisted acceleration before the engine turns on from full stop is there. Maybe Kawasaki still hasn't added that part as it may not be seamless enough to give the rider some confidence on switching (could be proper gearing/shifting). And hopefully it's just a firmware update if they find a way on that part.
Bravery from Kawasaki, relentless effort towards motorcycle community, well done! Yet another great review from this amazing RUclipsr, thanks! It semms like 2 points needs to be perfected: 1- Price: Perhaps, they needed to release manual gearbox which reduces price and reduces overall costs. 2-Shifter is needed, we are so used to kick that shift lever hahaha. Lets see what gen 2 is going to be like or this attemp will stop just like Bmw C1 (concept 1992 production 2000, discon 2002) Cheers!
8:06 - should we start some donation campaing to get you new gloves? :D Nice video as always. I kinda like these experiments, I am not in position to buy one but I like it. Thanks for sharing the experience
electric mode seems to be quite cool, switching between modes looks a bit annoying, should be possible on the run. how far can you go electric and how long does it take to recharge the battery in real life?
Agreed! Unfortunately, I'd have to google that myself :D But as far as I know the battery gets charged while riding, at least that's what I've noticed on my 20 minute test run!
In an age of refinement not invention (eg Panigale bike engine has only ever evolved - well over a decade now) I give Congratulations to Kawasaki. There will be doubters and people bashing this bike, but the industry is tough and I applaud any manufacturer willing to put mental benchmarks down like this bike. Kawasaki aren't trying to replace your bike or claim this to be better than anything else. Look at their new H2. They are innovators. Yeah it's crazy expensive. It's a whole new market they've opened up, rattling the cage of other manufacturers to say wake the fuck up, we can sling out zx10, H2, 125, tourers and strong hybrids and soon , hydrogen.
Well said. I'm sure Kawasaki knows this isn't going to be a sales leader, especially in the United States, and yes it is heavy and complicated. But this is a bike for people who either live in city centers with emissions restrictions (not me) or are interested in new tech and unique bikes (definitely me). Also while the price currently is high there's no doubt that here in the states there will be heavy discounts on this bike over the winter, as I'll be surprised if they sell more than a handful. At that point I'll buy one and add it to my list of quirky bikes lol. I do wonder on the longevity of that relatively little 48 volt battery running through endless cycles of charging and recharging with it being air cooled. I suppose a battery of that size (seems like around 1.4kw) could be built fairly easily as long as you take the electronics/bms/etc off of the old pack and replace the cells. I was surprised that the bike allowed you to access the eboost as much as it did though, so maybe the thermal management is better than thought.
This actually looks like something useful, two bikes in one. Can do city stop and go stuff as easily as a scooter, but also longer distances. I hope these actually get more development and get cheaper in the long run.
Just like plug in hybrid cars, this tech on bikes also makes total sense. Instant torque + high speed pulls, cheap daily drives + long road trips. Everything is possible and the best of both worlds.
I like the idea but if you have to come to a full stop to switch to electric only and back, that would annoy the living hell out of me. Also, I would love to see the technology in some kind of touring bike - might give you access to some mountain roads that would otherwise be closed for bikes with only an ICE.
nice concept , a ev mode is amazing for stop and go traffic. lowers the power output for such situations, helps manage fuel expenses and stealth! only problem im seeing are the price and weight... which hopefully will be improved in future iterations
Cool to see that it's finally out and about. I think a Versys Hybrid would make a lot of sense for this type of tech. I'm excited to see how this will develop
this is the only form of electrification that I accept on motorcycles, because you still have that combustion engine. If there were only fully electric motorcycles I can also go full on riding my bicycle...
@@K0nst4nt1n96 yeah same. Also because most people probably use their scooter every day vs the motorcycle that stays on 5 of 7 days in the garage. So producing a battery in this case is just waste
Really nice to see you experiment. Really cool to see the concept has made it to a final product, even though still flawed. The biggest miss imho is not being able to switch to and from EV mode
Hello love your content! I subscribed! I just wish the review text on screen are smaller so that the eyes wont scroll too far from left to right and vice versa while watching the video. haha
Well, as my first bike I'm about to buy one of the last 2 stroke bikes that you can buy new, in Argentina at least. And that is the Suzuki AX 100. It's not a statement against this bike, but it's the most fun bike I can afford right now.
It's a really cool bike! It's certainly not perfect but it's exciting to think about what the future could hold with refining the technology. Just imagining a crisp inline 4 cylinder screaming in the canyons and then silently cruising around town in scooter mode, lol.
Having to come to a full stop to switch in and out of full electric mode is really a poor design. I guess it's ok if you spend a long time in a city (but then I guess the battery range must not be very big), but you'll end up not using it when you're just crossing a town if it's only a few kilometres long, while benefitting from the noise reduction would have been great in that situation. Anyway, thanks for this honest short review.
That's actually a great point. For cars, the tire noise outweighs engine noise at moderate city speeds, so an electric or an ICU are almost the same noise level for pedestrians. But for bikes, having the option to shut off the ICU mid-ride when you're going through a habitated area should bring immense noise benefits. Tire noise is basically irrelevant in comaprison
Perfect citybike and without waking up the neighbourhood until the open road and the Akrapovic starts to sing..interesting review on a odd nice bike by the way..🐑💨
@Schaaf - can you add a quick 10msecomd walkaround of the bike and a start up to your videos. That would make it even more immersive for viewers. Thanks as always.
Hallo Schaaf, benutzen Sie 2 Go-Pros gleichzeitig/synchronisiert ? da der Motorsound so intensiv rüber kommt aber kaum Windgeräusche. Würde mich interessieren. Haben Sie eventuell, Erfahrungen mit Insta 360 4K gemacht ?
Ziemlich cool, hab das Video, wie so oft, als Hörbuch im Hintergrund gehabt, und beim "Fully electric" Teil hab ich das Browserfenster wieder vorgeholt, weil ich mich gewundert hab warum ich nur E-Motorgeräusche hör. Derzeit noch eine ziemliche Spielerei, wirkt wie Technologiedemonstrator, und ist damit ein ziemlich ausgefallenes Bikes, wird sicher eine Fanbase finden. War ja damals beim 3 Liter Lupo/Audi A2 genau so, damals naja, heute Kult.
My partner enjoys riding, but gets overwhelmed by the clutch and gear lever and rev matching etc. She learnt on a CFMOTO 300SR but would be comfortable with Ninja 650 like performance if it had a clutchless option. She is currently on a Can-Am Spyder but this may be a future option for her as she does not need super sharp handling.
Jep, ich verwende nur manchmal andere Taschen oder Rucksäcke, je nachdem, was ich zur Verfügung hab. Verwende aber auch noch meine Rucksack aus dem Tutorial Video. Die Ergebnisse variieren stark von Bike zu Bike
I was really curious to hear your takes on this! Edit: Personally, I've never been the biggest advocate for alternative powertrains, but I've always believed something like this is a more viable solution while EV architecture improves and evolves globally.
well, I would expect an advantage in fuel consumption, when takeoffs are supported by electricity, but it apparently isn't happening.. so the only real advantage is that you can go silently at evening/morning, not pissing off your neighbours (which is definitely good thing in my book).. OK, let's see, if there will be some second generation, how it will evolve, for now I'll stick to my H2 SX.. :-) thanks for nice review, Schaaf 👍
It's a proof of concept more than anything. I applaud them for the effort, because like it or not, this is the way vehicles are heading. At least they are trying to implement internal combustion instead of going pure, soulless electric.
A very decent go at hybrid tech on bikes I think. Will make for a cool option for cities that will start allowing electric-only transport within them - and still looks pretty enjoyable to ride once in sport mode. If only we can sustainably manufacture & dispose of batteries & motors...
You idiots only worry about "sustainability" when it comes to batteries, none of you were ever out there crying about the oil industry. And motors? An electric motor is mostly a lot of copper wire and permanent magnets. "If only we can dispose of copper wire," when people are ripping it out of the walls to sell to recycling plants. You don't have a god damned clue what you're talking about.
Not for me, at least right now, but im interested to see how it develops. Im alot more pessimistic for ev/hybrid full size motorcycles like these compared to cars and trucks.
electric motor mated before gearbox is a inefficient way of execution in my opinion cars usually integrate separately or on final drive more efficient and also less clunky but I feel this has potential with correct execution
It looks like a very good commuter bike, or at least it could to be. Acceptable performance on freeways, and in or around cities where the traffic becomes dense, switch to electric and avoid the heat and noise from the engine (and that awful sound, sounds like a lawnmower). Probably will have some teething issues and the fact you cannot change modes while riding is annoying, but it does have potential. Later they should also make a Versys style version of it.
14k for a 450cc😅 it's not that I'm against the tech buy if its going to be the trend to double the price for small displacement bikes it would be a No no for me.
that bike seems to make a lot of Fun somehow 😁..... i would like to testride one. the only thing that is sad is you need to be under 25kmh to switch from pure EV to HEV Mode (no need to fully stop, its possible between 0-25kmh and throttle closed).... it would be very cool if you can switch between the modes at 0-60kmh because it would be much more useful and safer when you leave the City.... sure you could switch to HEV at the last Traffic Light in the City.... but the added possibility to switch between 0-60 would be much better anyway its a cool piece of tech........ im pretty sure Kawa will figure this out in the next Gen HEV Bikes....
If I was commuting from home every day (from the agglomeration with faster roads through our capital city with slow moving traffic) I would probably buy one of these. I think it would cut the fuel consumption in the city by a lot since the speeds rarely exceed 30kmh and the electric motor seemed to be able to handle that. But definitely wouldn't buy one of these for fun. :D It's more like a workhorse. But I really like the idea of hybrids. Hopefully they can improve the tech and put it in bigger bikes.
What are the performance numbers on this thing? I Google them and get nothing but the mpg figures and how fast it will go on battery only. All of things most riders could care less about. I guess this is just a proof of concept. Will be a hard sell in the US.
The parallel hybrid approach gives more of the sound and feel of a traditional motorcycle. What’s going to fry our brains is riding series hybrids where the engine is not part of the drivetrain, but just a generator for a more powerful electric motor.
No, it doesn't. 180 degree parallel twins never sound good. They sound like souped up lawnmowers. The only reason I tolerate the Ninja 500 is because it's so light and cheap.
That’s like a hybrid corolla. Its not great but it gets the job done. Imho hybrid systems has a better future than the electrics. Its good to see hybrid bikes
What are you talking about? Honda DCTs have had the buttons to shift gears on your left hand for as far as i can remember. They even make a shifter-style button for your left foot....?!
@@Driftuner what are you talking about? Read my comment again. By the way, Schaaf will know what I’m talking about. No one has even invited you to this comment, what do you want here?
I can see a use case in a big scooter used for commuting to the big busy city. But other than that, no. It just adds weight and complexitiy. Better add 100cc, much cheaper.
If the bike could go at least 100 in all electric and could last for atleast 20 KM. Then you would have a winner. Make the shifting the same as with any other bike and it would be great
I want someone to make a bike with about the same power as a grom but in electric form (that isn't one of those underpowered Chinese e-grom clones) I love riding my ebike around town, but that's limited to around 25mph
Una moto sorprendente. Me ha impresionado mucho. Su comportamiento a la hora de conducirla, hacen que sea una moto totalmente distinta a todo lo que en existe en la actualidad. Esta tecnología híbrida si que puede ser una alternativa real de futuro en el mundo de las dos ruedas 🤩🏍️💨
Hats off to Kawasaki for actually releasing this bike to the public, but tbh, it just reaffirms to me that hybrid drivetrains are a dead-end and a waste of time in motorcycles.
I don’t think a hybrid makes much sense on a Ninja sports bike. Would think a cruiser would benefit more from a hybrid system. It would be different if the battery assisted the engine in generating more power, but it only works in hybrid mode below 40 mph. The Eliminator is half the price and gets 70 mpg cruising at 60 mph. Try to get the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 and see how it does in the twisties.
fuel-consumption definitely is not a pro-argument, indeed there's combustion only which need less. But it's the complete silence in town that's a killer feature
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Good on Kawasaki for working on the technology. It's first gen so I would not be too critical. The next generations should be better and hopefully lighter.
I think the biggest jump in electric vehicles will come from the solid state battery technology. Gonna be a very sad day tho.
sure hope so! I absolutely love the option to ride in silence if needed!
This feels too immature even for a 1st gen. Maybe they should have had developed further its implementation before hitting the market and expecting users to debug it.
@@laingadaing That would be a jump, but a small one. Batteries have to get about 56x more efficient (power density) to compete with gasoline.
@@ALIENdrifter66 my car is plug-in hybrid. I think it's the best of both worlds. I don't think the goal is to eliminate gas, I think the goal is to just reduce our need for it as much as we can. With the PHEV, you can cover most of your daily errands with zero gas whatsoever, but then when you need to go further, you can just go... They also only use a small battery so it's more earth friendly there too once the car is dead. Obviously if you live 50 miles from your workplace, this might not be the tech for you... If they could make decent phev bikes... that could be fun!
This bike is actually pretty cool! I like the fact that you can creep out of the neighborhood before firing the engine up.
For city dwellers like me, this could easily be two bikes in one. All-electric mode for the daily commute, hybrid sport mode for the weekend rides. Hopefully future hybrid bikes will look a little better-proportioned and regain left-foot shift levers so we can at least pretend it's a normal motorcycle transmission with a quickshifter.
only concern is about the weight imo
@VanBlamm I fully agree!!
It's 226kg for a 450ccm dude
@@Jaszczur-sp2txa bike like this is more than its spec sheet. Hybrid bikes have tons of potential and I’ll probably own one in the future. Just waiting for the tech to develop a little more
@@jonny530 I doubt they have any potential performance wise tbh
There's been mention of a Versys-like hybrid being developed. Definitely interested to see how it will handle touring, especially if you can run it in eco and get a greatly extended range (300-400+ miles). To me, something like that makes sense for a hybrid.
that would be great indeed!
8:34 that cyclist must have been pretty confused at suddenly hearing the engine xD
hahaha indeed
This is a good start imo. The seamless switching from engine to electric is possible as the electrically assisted acceleration before the engine turns on from full stop is there. Maybe Kawasaki still hasn't added that part as it may not be seamless enough to give the rider some confidence on switching (could be proper gearing/shifting). And hopefully it's just a firmware update if they find a way on that part.
good point!
Bravery from Kawasaki, relentless effort towards motorcycle community, well done! Yet another great review from this amazing RUclipsr, thanks! It semms like 2 points needs to be perfected: 1- Price: Perhaps, they needed to release manual gearbox which reduces price and reduces overall costs.
2-Shifter is needed, we are so used to kick that shift lever hahaha.
Lets see what gen 2 is going to be like or this attemp will stop just like Bmw C1 (concept 1992 production 2000, discon 2002)
Cheers!
8:06 - should we start some donation campaing to get you new gloves? :D
Nice video as always. I kinda like these experiments, I am not in position to buy one but I like it. Thanks for sharing the experience
I mean, it's expensive, yes. But it looks like quite some fun!
It is actually pretty cheap relatively. Most bikes cost more.
it is indeed, both things!
@@nepp9574 13000€ for a 50ish hp sport motorcycle with 0-100 in 5 seconds and bellow 200 top speed is quite pricey!
Not 500cc bikes @@nepp9574
electric mode seems to be quite cool, switching between modes looks a bit annoying, should be possible on the run.
how far can you go electric and how long does it take to recharge the battery in real life?
Agreed! Unfortunately, I'd have to google that myself :D But as far as I know the battery gets charged while riding, at least that's what I've noticed on my 20 minute test run!
Battery only charges when you're running the engine, suspect only owners will be able to give any realistic impression on how it actually works.
I believe it has like 40km of range and your speed is limited on 60km/h when riding fully electric which is only intended for city riding.
@Geshmaal it has regenerative braking too.
Quite helpful to get to gas station or any short driving in cities were theres hell of a traffic..saves fuel..
08:05 That gesture plus the hole in the left index finger, hilarious!
Cool riding, as always.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment!
In an age of refinement not invention (eg Panigale bike engine has only ever evolved - well over a decade now) I give Congratulations to Kawasaki. There will be doubters and people bashing this bike, but the industry is tough and I applaud any manufacturer willing to put mental benchmarks down like this bike. Kawasaki aren't trying to replace your bike or claim this to be better than anything else. Look at their new H2. They are innovators. Yeah it's crazy expensive. It's a whole new market they've opened up, rattling the cage of other manufacturers to say wake the fuck up, we can sling out zx10, H2, 125, tourers and strong hybrids and soon , hydrogen.
Very well said!
More heavy, more expensive, more expensive to service, more to go wrong, .. No thanks, will stick with traditional for as long as possible.
Well said. I'm sure Kawasaki knows this isn't going to be a sales leader, especially in the United States, and yes it is heavy and complicated. But this is a bike for people who either live in city centers with emissions restrictions (not me) or are interested in new tech and unique bikes (definitely me). Also while the price currently is high there's no doubt that here in the states there will be heavy discounts on this bike over the winter, as I'll be surprised if they sell more than a handful. At that point I'll buy one and add it to my list of quirky bikes lol. I do wonder on the longevity of that relatively little 48 volt battery running through endless cycles of charging and recharging with it being air cooled. I suppose a battery of that size (seems like around 1.4kw) could be built fairly easily as long as you take the electronics/bms/etc off of the old pack and replace the cells. I was surprised that the bike allowed you to access the eboost as much as it did though, so maybe the thermal management is better than thought.
This actually looks like something useful, two bikes in one. Can do city stop and go stuff as easily as a scooter, but also longer distances. I hope these actually get more development and get cheaper in the long run.
yup, I also hope so!
Just like plug in hybrid cars, this tech on bikes also makes total sense. Instant torque + high speed pulls, cheap daily drives + long road trips. Everything is possible and the best of both worlds.
I finally got my first motorcycle, my riding has finally begun ! Thanks schaff
That is awesome!! Have fun & stay safe!!
@@Schaaf you too!
I like the idea but if you have to come to a full stop to switch to electric only and back, that would annoy the living hell out of me. Also, I would love to see the technology in some kind of touring bike - might give you access to some mountain roads that would otherwise be closed for bikes with only an ICE.
mmhhh yea, good thinking!
nice concept , a ev mode is amazing for stop and go traffic. lowers the power output for such situations, helps manage fuel expenses and stealth!
only problem im seeing are the price and weight... which hopefully will be improved in future iterations
Hopefully!!
Hybrid things should be the rule,no gas,go electric,no electricity,go gas and then you recharge,thats why y love hibryds
Thanks
@Schaaf no problem!
Cool to see that it's finally out and about. I think a Versys Hybrid would make a lot of sense for this type of tech. I'm excited to see how this will develop
That's true!
I get all my motorcycle news from Schaaf
That's not a lot of news then hehehe thanks mate
14k for a 450cc engine, jesus
Y'all don't complain bout r7 and other in this class tho 🤡
Well it's new so a high price is to be expected I guess, hopefully if it becomes more popular the price will go down a bit.
@szypki_zygi What do you smoking, R7 is around 10k, proper bike
Dude, you're also buying a 48v Lithium Ion battery pack and a 9kW permanent-magnet synchronous traction motor.
No, it’s not for a 450cc. You’re leaving half the drivetrain out.
kawa prius, interesting bike
let's see if it becomes a popular option for Moto Taxis at some point too haha
this is the only form of electrification that I accept on motorcycles, because you still have that combustion engine. If there were only fully electric motorcycles I can also go full on riding my bicycle...
hehehe
Yeah but you get like 60 more kilograms. It's not worth it
Fully electric bikes are not comparable in terms of performance. I see the most use in fully electric scooters.
@@K0nst4nt1n96 yeah same. Also because most people probably use their scooter every day vs the motorcycle that stays on 5 of 7 days in the garage. So producing a battery in this case is just waste
It looked really long when I saw it last year at the NEC bike show. Does it steer different to normal motorcycles?
1:14 reminds me of the Le Mans hybrid race cars where it starts off as electric then starts the engine
Electric motor is directly chained to transmision gears..?
Yooo that start gives off the hypercar (the endurance car) vibe
Weeeee
How does it feel to switch the weight of the bike in the eletric configuration ? Do you feel it is safe for a sportsbike ?
The boost drag look amazing though
Thanks
Really nice to see you experiment. Really cool to see the concept has made it to a final product, even though still flawed. The biggest miss imho is not being able to switch to and from EV mode
Indeed!! Thanks mate
Definetly a unique bike to try
For sure it is!
Hello love your content! I subscribed! I just wish the review text on screen are smaller so that the eyes wont scroll too far from left to right and vice versa while watching the video. haha
What do you ride most often when the cameras are off? Anything that no matter what else you try, you just keep coming back to?
Well, as my first bike I'm about to buy one of the last 2 stroke bikes that you can buy new, in Argentina at least. And that is the Suzuki AX 100. It's not a statement against this bike, but it's the most fun bike I can afford right now.
Sounds nice!
It's a really cool bike! It's certainly not perfect but it's exciting to think about what the future could hold with refining the technology. Just imagining a crisp inline 4 cylinder screaming in the canyons and then silently cruising around town in scooter mode, lol.
Having to come to a full stop to switch in and out of full electric mode is really a poor design. I guess it's ok if you spend a long time in a city (but then I guess the battery range must not be very big), but you'll end up not using it when you're just crossing a town if it's only a few kilometres long, while benefitting from the noise reduction would have been great in that situation. Anyway, thanks for this honest short review.
You're welcome!
That's actually a great point. For cars, the tire noise outweighs engine noise at moderate city speeds, so an electric or an ICU are almost the same noise level for pedestrians. But for bikes, having the option to shut off the ICU mid-ride when you're going through a habitated area should bring immense noise benefits. Tire noise is basically irrelevant in comaprison
Why is the Sport Mode Manual only? My XADV is really good in Sport Mode with automatic shifting.
I wondered about the same thing
Perfect citybike and without waking up the neighbourhood until the open road and the Akrapovic starts to sing..interesting review on a odd nice bike by the way..🐑💨
@Schaaf - can you add a quick 10msecomd walkaround of the bike and a start up to your videos. That would make it even more immersive for viewers. Thanks as always.
I do that at the end of the video. I hate Onboard videos which don't start with riding. But thanks for the suggestion still
@@Schaaf Cheers
It looks like you could use a pair of new gloves, mate!
Great video as usual. Cheers from Spain!
always difficult saying goodbye to a pair that fit me so well :,)
You're really good at cornering! Impressive skills even though with a Hybrid bike 👍
thanks!
Whats around the top speed for mph cause i dont see no one talking about that lol
Great ride as always. Please, please, please find a BMW K1300r and give it your treatment! 🙏
Hallo Schaaf, benutzen Sie 2 Go-Pros gleichzeitig/synchronisiert ? da der Motorsound so intensiv rüber kommt aber kaum Windgeräusche.
Würde mich interessieren.
Haben Sie eventuell, Erfahrungen mit Insta 360 4K gemacht ?
Ich glaube er nimmt ein externes Mikro und platziert es am Motorrad, wo es nicht so viele Windgeräusche gibt. Wurde in einem Video mal erwähnt.
Beschreibung lesen!
i chuckled during the full electric mode. haha. Awesome review as always!
Thanks a lot!
Ziemlich cool, hab das Video, wie so oft, als Hörbuch im Hintergrund gehabt, und beim "Fully electric" Teil hab ich das Browserfenster wieder vorgeholt, weil ich mich gewundert hab warum ich nur E-Motorgeräusche hör.
Derzeit noch eine ziemliche Spielerei, wirkt wie Technologiedemonstrator, und ist damit ein ziemlich ausgefallenes Bikes, wird sicher eine Fanbase finden. War ja damals beim 3 Liter Lupo/Audi A2 genau so, damals naja, heute Kult.
stimmt, Technologiedemonstrator trifft es ganz gut!!
My partner enjoys riding, but gets overwhelmed by the clutch and gear lever and rev matching etc. She learnt on a CFMOTO 300SR but would be comfortable with Ninja 650 like performance if it had a clutchless option. She is currently on a Can-Am Spyder but this may be a future option for her as she does not need super sharp handling.
Honda has 650 models with E-Clutch option now. Maybe that’s a good alternative.
@@marcelpursche5339 yip, watching all those
@Schaaf ist dein Video zu den Settings beim Zoom noch aktuell? Mache das gleiche und es hört sich nicht mal annähernd so an :(
Jep, ich verwende nur manchmal andere Taschen oder Rucksäcke, je nachdem, was ich zur Verfügung hab. Verwende aber auch noch meine Rucksack aus dem Tutorial Video. Die Ergebnisse variieren stark von Bike zu Bike
I was really curious to hear your takes on this!
Edit: Personally, I've never been the biggest advocate for alternative powertrains, but I've always believed something like this is a more viable solution while EV architecture improves and evolves globally.
Try the Yamaha super tenere 1200
ruclips.net/video/A_lVU5NGIUY/видео.html
well, I would expect an advantage in fuel consumption, when takeoffs are supported by electricity, but it apparently isn't happening.. so the only real advantage is that you can go silently at evening/morning, not pissing off your neighbours (which is definitely good thing in my book).. OK, let's see, if there will be some second generation, how it will evolve, for now I'll stick to my H2 SX.. :-) thanks for nice review, Schaaf 👍
When that thing started to move like a Toyota Prius it blew my mind 🤣
Hehehe
Sounds like my dad's old CB250RS..naff.. thanks for showing us, what is Kawasaki thinking..
Don't think they were and at a price of 14k which is 7k more than a z650 it's more of a gimmick bike.
It's a proof of concept more than anything. I applaud them for the effort, because like it or not, this is the way vehicles are heading. At least they are trying to implement internal combustion instead of going pure, soulless electric.
I'd buy it in an instant if I had the money tbh, seems fun
What are the best motorcycles in your opinion, you have ever ridden ? Motorcycles you would buy blindly ?
Aprilia rs457 next plz
Why does the 180° sound so solid?
No idea
Sounds pretty cool!
Thanks
A very decent go at hybrid tech on bikes I think. Will make for a cool option for cities that will start allowing electric-only transport within them - and still looks pretty enjoyable to ride once in sport mode. If only we can sustainably manufacture & dispose of batteries & motors...
You idiots only worry about "sustainability" when it comes to batteries, none of you were ever out there crying about the oil industry.
And motors? An electric motor is mostly a lot of copper wire and permanent magnets. "If only we can dispose of copper wire," when people are ripping it out of the walls to sell to recycling plants. You don't have a god damned clue what you're talking about.
yup! Thanks for the comment!
Not for me, at least right now, but im interested to see how it develops. Im alot more pessimistic for ev/hybrid full size motorcycles like these compared to cars and trucks.
Is the speedometer in kilometers? If not, that’s an absolutely insane bike
Lol
electric motor mated before gearbox is a inefficient way of execution in my opinion cars usually integrate separately or on final drive more efficient and also less clunky
but I feel this has potential with correct execution
definitely!
It looks like a very good commuter bike, or at least it could to be.
Acceptable performance on freeways, and in or around cities where the traffic becomes dense, switch to electric and avoid the heat and noise from the engine (and that awful sound, sounds like a lawnmower).
Probably will have some teething issues and the fact you cannot change modes while riding is annoying, but it does have potential.
Later they should also make a Versys style version of it.
Indeed, I'm also hoping to see this inside a Versys.
14k for a 450cc😅 it's not that I'm against the tech buy if its going to be the trend to double the price for small displacement bikes it would be a No no for me.
Thanks for sharing!
that bike seems to make a lot of Fun somehow 😁..... i would like to testride one.
the only thing that is sad is you need to be under 25kmh to switch from pure EV to HEV Mode (no need to fully stop, its possible between 0-25kmh and throttle closed).... it would be very cool if you can switch between the modes at 0-60kmh because it would be much more useful and safer when you leave the City....
sure you could switch to HEV at the last Traffic Light in the City.... but the added possibility to switch between 0-60 would be much better
anyway its a cool piece of tech........
im pretty sure Kawa will figure this out in the next Gen HEV Bikes....
Agreed! Thanks
0:25 You be you Schaaf xD
Standard forks on this bike and it sounds like a jet ski. Let’s see if these sell
the standard forks do a fantastic job though. Recently rode the Z500 against its competitors. ABsolutely sublime suspension, standard forks too.
Seems Crazy Fast for a 500 cc ... it's really fast
Thanks
3:53 dont think I didnt see your glove has a hole in it. The reviews not getting you enough money?? Be smart
I hope it won’t cost too much when maintaining
The electric part has no maintenance. The combustion part is just like any other 450cc 2 cylinder bike
You left those silly trikes in the dust 😅 Pegs touching down early aren't they?
Not really, it's just that the bike's stability and geometry is very confidence inspiring to go low while keeping things safe
I seemed to have missed the fast-ish bit, unless you were speaking about the one straight bit.
Your mum told me not to go any faster and for obvious reasons I listen to her
@@Schaaf Patronizing poes.
If Kawasaki were to put something like this in the KLR I would definitely consider it
Interesting bike! Maybe the future of a liter bike would be a mt09 engine with a big motor!
oooh yeeaa!
Ninja 7 Hybrid .... wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!🖤💚🖤💚🖤💚🖤💚🖤
If I was commuting from home every day (from the agglomeration with faster roads through our capital city with slow moving traffic) I would probably buy one of these. I think it would cut the fuel consumption in the city by a lot since the speeds rarely exceed 30kmh and the electric motor seemed to be able to handle that.
But definitely wouldn't buy one of these for fun. :D It's more like a workhorse. But I really like the idea of hybrids. Hopefully they can improve the tech and put it in bigger bikes.
What are the performance numbers on this thing? I Google them and get nothing but the mpg figures and how fast it will go on battery only. All of things most riders could care less about. I guess this is just a proof of concept. Will be a hard sell in the US.
I think it will be a hard sell everywhere. But it's great that a manufacturer is showing some balls
The parallel hybrid approach gives more of the sound and feel of a traditional motorcycle. What’s going to fry our brains is riding series hybrids where the engine is not part of the drivetrain, but just a generator for a more powerful electric motor.
interesting thought indeed
Like the New Honda Jazz😮
Wow actually sounds good.
not in person, this is bike is getting A TON of help from the microphone... it is just another 180º crank bike...
No, it doesn't. 180 degree parallel twins never sound good. They sound like souped up lawnmowers. The only reason I tolerate the Ninja 500 is because it's so light and cheap.
@@aluisious they sound like wet farts
thanks!
The bike Kawasaki made that nobody asked for. They make this crap but not a modern KLR/adventure bike.
Next upload Duke 390 please 🙏🏻🙏🏻
That’s like a hybrid corolla. Its not great but it gets the job done. Imho hybrid systems has a better future than the electrics. Its good to see hybrid bikes
it's definitely more appealing but I don't know if it's the right way to go, we'll see
The switch from electric to gas 🤤
Hybrid motorcycles are smart. Batteries need to get smaller and lighter for full electric motorcycles to really take off.
Yes, why not.
It will be enforced before it happens. Wait and see.
yea
Holy Army of the Mighty Keyboard Warrior ... LOL 😆
;)
Imagine they had a inline 4 one that just boosted the zx4r engine into the upper range like a turbo lag
That would be neat indeed
All these Honda DCT’s, and this is the first bike for you to use buttons to shift gears. How was this even possible to happen?! 🤣🤣 Great video. 💪🏻
What are you talking about? Honda DCTs have had the buttons to shift gears on your left hand for as far as i can remember. They even make a shifter-style button for your left foot....?!
@@Driftuner what are you talking about? Read my comment again. By the way, Schaaf will know what I’m talking about. No one has even invited you to this comment, what do you want here?
@@CROtourer oh yes, i misread your comment, now i get it, sorry. Invited?! LOL welcome to the internet kid 🤣
@@Driftuner some character who can’t even properly read comments calls me a “kid”. Fucking serious?
@@CROtourer had a bad day there buddy? You seem pretty stressed out man
I can see a use case in a big scooter used for commuting to the big busy city. But other than that, no. It just adds weight and complexitiy. Better add 100cc, much cheaper.
But not more silent ;)
I like it. Sounds cool to me
thanks!
Kawasaki híbrido combustible y electric power!!!🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
woohoooo!
If the bike could go at least 100 in all electric and could last for atleast 20 KM. Then you would have a winner. Make the shifting the same as with any other bike and it would be great
I want someone to make a bike with about the same power as a grom but in electric form (that isn't one of those underpowered Chinese e-grom clones)
I love riding my ebike around town, but that's limited to around 25mph
that would be cool indeed
Una moto sorprendente. Me ha impresionado mucho. Su comportamiento a la hora de conducirla, hacen que sea una moto totalmente distinta a todo lo que en existe en la actualidad. Esta tecnología híbrida si que puede ser una alternativa real de futuro en el mundo de las dos ruedas 🤩🏍️💨
Gracias!
Hats off to Kawasaki for actually releasing this bike to the public, but tbh, it just reaffirms to me that hybrid drivetrains are a dead-end and a waste of time in motorcycles.
Probably, a fun one though
A turbo boost button!?! Yes!
Indeed!
Motorsound better than most of the actual bikes WTF 😂🙈
Not as bad as I thought.
Interesting but still too expensive.
And really goes like hell oO?!
for a bike with an engine this small it indeed goes quick
looked like nasty gear changes when electric only
they're also clunky in hybrid auto mode
basically ticks every box except charging port. don't really feel the need to waste gasoline on my daily commute.
I don’t think a hybrid makes much sense on a Ninja sports bike. Would think a cruiser would benefit more from a hybrid system. It would be different if the battery assisted the engine in generating more power, but it only works in hybrid mode below 40 mph. The Eliminator is half the price and gets 70 mpg cruising at 60 mph. Try to get the Kawasaki Eliminator 500 and see how it does in the twisties.
fuel-consumption definitely is not a pro-argument, indeed there's combustion only which need less. But it's the complete silence in town that's a killer feature
The motorbike is really powerful