Here's my FULL Loki Season 2 Episode 4 video and Easter Eggs! RIP to the entire MCU Multiverse till next week! Post all your predictions in the comments. Here's my Loki Season 2 Deleted Scenes video too! ruclips.net/video/qNnN649antQ/видео.html
Charlie great breakdown as always the season has fantastic so far we need this so bad for the MCU! can't wait to see what pop up in 5 -6 every one prepare themselves imagine if the real kang shows up 🤯👍🏽.
Great episode. It seems like each one is more suspenseful each week. I think a reset is coming, and “He Who Remains” had a contingency plan all along.. Thanks for the breakdown.! 👍🏽
When Miss Minutes says “Uh Uh Uh Access Denied”, that’s a reference to Jurassic Park when Ray Arnold (who’s played by Samuel Jackson) is trying to login to Nedry’s computer and after many fail attempts, you can hear “uh uh uh, you didn’t say the magic word” over and over again. uh uh uh you didn’t say the magic word). How do they fix it? By literally turning off the power of the park and turning it back on. The Uh Uh Uh reference is also use in Just Jen Episode in She-Hulk series.
This series is literally breaking and saving the entire MCU. It's such a breath of fresh air that it's not under performing but actually meeting or exceeding expectations. It's just that good. Each episode has been a banger and how they keep answering previous plot points is so good.
@@cardianaminajgrande5115 but aren't they contradicting with what time travel concept in avengers endgame "travelling to the past doesn't affect your present/future"
@@cardianaminajgrande5115 ohhh. Thats why they did the whole time slipping thingy back in episode one , so they can fix this problem with travelling back
Miss Minutes was the true villain. She mocked Victor, "you will never be him". After that, he felt the need to prove himself worthy and get himself killed thus dooming the TVA!
I agree. I think this was part of her plan (He Who Remains plan) the entire time. He seems to have had everything mapped out and she has been guiding everyone into doing exactly what she (and he) wants.
Don't you see the "bigger picture"? Everything is going according to He Who Remains' plan. Miss Minutes was created by him and is just another chess piece in his game.
Victor Timely's fate in this episode I think is a set up for another 'which came first' idea, Kang or Timely. I think Victor's fate at the end of episode is the catalyst to spread his temporal aura to ALL of the new multiverse so every Kang that arises shares the same temporal aura which was originally Victor Timely's. That's why the machine calls him He Who Remains when it scans Victor's aura. The end of Victor Timely is the beginning of Kang and the end of the last Kang (He Who Remains) is the beginning of Victor Timely. And the loop goes on.
You, sir, should win whatever Charlie is giving away. As much as they kept referencing Ouroboros, this theory that Victor Timely is the end and beginning of Kang is the most sensible and likely origin to Kang.
It’s getting to the point where it’s scary how good this show is. It’s setting the bar pretty high. This is what I expected all shows to be after End Game. That ending just shocked the hell outta me😮
It's scary asf how many people believe this show is so great. Is it because of all the shiiit Marvel has put out lately. Causing this mediocre show to seem special? Sure, I enjoy the show. But more than ok it isn't
I loved the hat tip to Back to the Future movies. That was the part where OB said he was sorry the model wasn’t to scale and he only put on 1 coat of paint. Doc says a similar thing twice in the BTTF movies. It was a great reference.
The adorable thing about Victor being fascinated by the hot chocolate machine is, hot cocoa was a fairly recent thing in his time. In the 1700s, hot chocolate was still a new, fashionable drink for the wealthy due to its requirement of sugar and the import of this foreign food called cocoa. Producing cocoa for drinkable beverages was an extremely laborious process, requiring the manual roasting of the beans, then grinding them on a hot slab and finely milling them into a powder. Even in Victor's days, it was still a drink reserved mostly for special occasions during the cold months. Hearing of a machine, that can produce hot cocoa, any time of year, at the push of a button? No wonder he would be fascinated! He has no idea what instant Swiss Miss chocolate water is. It would be like one of us hearing of a 3D printer that can create a piping hot, fresh pizza out of thin air in a matter of moments. We'd want to see that, too.
well he also seems to be a bit obsessed with changing the temperature of his beverages. in the last episode he was super duper proud of his chair that has a built-in drink refrigerator. now he finds a beverage heater & is just elated.
That would be cool but Victor is from the late 1800s. They met him at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. He was fascinated by the machine, not the hot cocoa, since it had already been in America for over 100 years.
@@DPSFSU 100 years isn't a very long time. Chocolate was still expensive, and required a lot of manual labor to produce in Victor's time. Sugar also was expensive and not frequently consumed by the working class like him. We got the cocoa press circa 1830 in Amsterdam, and it took a while for it to reach the US. Victor here was still seven years away from the first Hershey bar. 1876 was when they first began adding milk to cocoa, prior to that hot cocoa was generally made with any variety of liquid you chose, commonly hot liquors. Commercially produced cheap cocoa mix like we know it today wasn't invented until 1950, nearly 60 years in Victor's future. You still had to mill the cocoa brick yourself and mix it into hot liquid of your choice, and then add sugar. Hot chocolate was still a relatively high end drink in Victor's time, and a machine which could conjure it out of basically thin air would still have been a marvel to him.
That scene with Dox and her crew was horrific, Marvel has been getting really good at the horror elements recently, but that shook me. Hearing the dripping afterwards and screaming just terrified me. The compactor machine was cool, but i thought it would only stay as a thing to scare Brad in ep 2, but to see it put into use and be successful was horrific. That was amazing to see Marvel takes leaps in their horror
But technically him and all his variants (so all kangs?) got wiped from all timelines right. Wasn’t that the fear for Loki at the beginning.. that it’s not resettable?
@@lordcorporal4247I would assume bc he was spaghettified before the timeline blew up, I think he may just be scattered across timelines and will lead to the different variants we’ve seen (Timely, Kang, and HWR) existing at once in different universes
@@NiceyP0123 so Loki being in danger of being eliminated from all timelines at the beginning was if he kept letting himself phase thru time and didn’t cure himself in time? and only mobius would’ve been spaghetti-fied (but still have mobius variants exist?). So the spaghetti-fication is just one variant dying,black hole style, and Loki was only specifically in danger of being fully eliminated because of his time warping disease?
Totally agree. Mad credit to Tom Hiddleston - up there as one of the best portrayals of a character ever. He’s the only thing I’m truly excited about in the MCU right now.
I think this was all part of Kang's plan because Victor Timley is the prime Kang and by him going out there and becoming spaghetti, releases his temporal aura into the mutliverse creating Kang variants. I maybe wrong but you never know.
I feel like Victor had a Batman Crisis on Infinite Earths moment. He knew he would disintegrate when he went out there which is why he stopped Loki. Timely is too smart and they only needed him for his aura Also Ms. Mins has gotten more terrifying with each episode. Imagine if she ran into Ultron 😭
I don't think Timely knew he would disintegrate. I think he thought he was doing the right thing, the brave thing, and that only he would be able to fix to loom.
Don't make me cry because I really liked Victor even though we had a few moments of doubt of his character. But after that last pat on his shoulder from loki, I just knew something bad would happen to him 😭
Genuinely one of the best MCU episodes/movies ever made. Non-stop all episode. Shocking and horrifying death of Dox and minutemen. Thrilling, unpredictable ending with a Infinity War style cliffhanger. 10/10 wow
That ending is one of the finest endings of an episode I’ve ever seen. The way the score cut out mid tune and the blank screen was epic. You could hear a pin drop.
Victor did not deserve that ending at all. the whole time we were thinking he'd eventually turn but the actual twist was him dying a horrible death so tragic :/
I'd like to pedantically point out that the Grandfather Paradox and the Bootstrap Paradox are not the same thing. In fact, they're basically inversions of each other. The Bootstrap Paradox is when you have a causal loop, making it so that something ultimately causes itself; in other words, where A causes B which causes A again. So for instance, the TVA guidebook caused Victor to invent stuff, but Victor's inventions caused OB to write the guidebook; so that's a Bootstrap Paradox. The Grandfather Paradox, on the other hand, is when an event prevents itself from occurring. So you kill your grandfather, which causes you not to be born, but then that prevents you from killing your grandfather. For the OB/Victor connection to be a Grandfather Paradox, Victor getting the guidebook would somehow have to prevent Rennslayer from giving him the guidebook, which isn't what happened. Sorry to be pedantic; I'm a nerd. Carry on.
The last exchange between Dox and Bradley was the standout for me in this episode. It was so well done with Dox trying to bring Bradley from making the misguided choice with a warm motherly tone. Really wished they had used Episode 2 to dive deeper into these two characters more. I would have added a throwback scene showing how Dox took X-5 in as his mentor and surrogate parent from when he was a new hunter. Maybe after he messed up and was punished by then Judge Rennslayer. Would have made this scene so much more impactful than it already is. The TVA is a place comprised of displaced individuals across time who literally had nowhere to go back to. It would make this stood out even more as a family relationship was formed even in the midst of that. It would also bring more to the title of the episode: The Heart of the TVA. This is the hour where the heart of the organisation is tested and everyone has to make a choice in the face of it. Any thoughts?
I believe they left him alive to explain what’s up with he and general Dox, because they wouldn’t have showed us that scene in the beginning, like how she treated him like her son for no reason
The hot chocolate changed the tva soldier’s Behavior. Made him happier. Which is probably part of the reason mobius is so upbeat all the time. He’s hooked on the food and drink. Victor was suspicious cause he knows he built it and there’s more to it and he figured it out when the agents mood changed after drinking it.
This is a really interesting theory and I believe you’re onto something here because they have made such a big deal about eating pie for a long time now, and there has to be some meaning behind it. Marvel will never add so many scenes with pie and not have a meaning to it, we’ll just see then. This show is absolutely incredible and I just wish Marvel doesn’t mess up whatever comes after like they did with pretty much everything after endgame
It's like real life and how the food industry got us all hooked on sugar. But I just thought Victor was obsessed with the machine and not the cocoa. Good catch
I loved how wicked and psychopathic they made Miss Minutes as the episode progressed until she reached Ultimate Villian Mode ..will she return ? Is she still around ?
I think she will be back yes. She also stated to Victor that she always wanted to have a body - she realized the potential to become something more during her time with HWR, who refused her that. Maybe she could become too powerful? I don't know, just guessing. I definitely think we haven't seen that last of her/this thing.
Here’s an interesting thought…. What if Victor Timely’s spaghetification into all of time is what *creates* all of the Kang variants, including He Who Remains? That would explain why his temporal aura worked and why he seems to be at the beginning of it all, including inspiring OB’s work. That final scene may be the beginning of the circle of time… 🤔
That would be very unnecessary, given the loki lore and how if a character exists in the mcu, there are already infinite variants of the character across the multiverse without any special "tinkering".
I'm fully convinced... None of us know what's really going on. The dialogue in this episode is so captivating. Loki might be my favorite piece of Media, EVER.
Since Ouroboros remembers Loki, this means that Ouroboros was so irrelevant that he never got his memory wiped. The box death was awful, and Loki finally reaching the future he slipped into was super amazing.
Ending completely shocked me! Ravonna got pruned, Miss minutes evil smile, Timely turns to spaghetti 😮 and the TVA is no more! Truly I don’t know what’s going to happen moving forward. Can’t wait till next week!
When He Who Remains wipes everyone's memory, he is secluding himself away from everyone, to be forgotten by everyone except Miss Minutes and then eventually Loki and Sylvie. You can feel the sadness in his mannerisms. He knows that when he says "for all time always" he's setting himself to keep the peace all alone for all time, always.
I think what loki is saying about freedom is if you give people freedom and just leave them without guidance leads to more chaos. And in this case will lead to the kang wars and back to where they started.
The dialog between Loki and Sylvie in the pie shop basically made me realize it's effectively a "trolley problem" that they're setting up. Give free will, leave everyone on their own, and you end up with multiversal war and the deaths of trillions. OR ... you occasionally find an individual variant that puts the timeline at risk of splintering, you prune them and only them, and time continues on peacefully. Just like the trolley problem itself, ultimately there are no good answers.
@@aspreedacoreFirst, you're not stupid :P Second, the trolley problem is a thought experiment. Imagine a train is coming down a track at high speed with no ability to stop before it hits a group of people standing on the tracks- the only way to change the situation is to switch the train onto a different track that only one person is standing on. Do you intervene and switch the train onto the track that will only kill one person? Or do you not intervene, and let the group of people die? It's an interesting moral question. (In my opinion the trolley problem is just asking if you're pragmatic or not, as a pragmatist such as myself would say flat out, kill the one over the many) MCU Captain America's opinion on the matter from Infinity War: "We don't trade lives."
Prediction: Sylvie will send herself, Loki and Mobius back in time to the timeline she was living in. This will cause Loki to start time slipping again, and it will give us a chance to see Mobius get a glimpse of his previous life as well. Anyway this will give them a second chance to "fix" things.
Interesting theory. But I think either Loki time slips or him with Sylvie. Because both of them are responsible for what happened. It means they have to fix what they done in season 1 leading to this catastrophe
Same! I'm hooked. I haven't been paying attention to anything MCU lately. Moonknight was the last time I was THIS invested. Can't wait for the next episode.
THEORY : LOKI HAS THE TIME STONE, in one the trailers, he asked OB ‘is there another way they can try it again’ and they just turned off the safety protocols meaning magic and I’m guessing the drawer full of infinity stones now work.
If Kang does come back, I would love it to be the Ant-Man and the wasp quantumania version. Showing that he didn't die and instead ended up in the TVA would be a great cliffhanger leading into Kang dynasty.
I would rather the quantumania one .. he seems like he wanted revenge and was more menacing. I looked at thst version as the apex predator one. He was nurfed because of quantum realm time runes diffrently and he couldn't get out or manipulate it. His other variants couldn't kill him so he was banished but antman who saved the infinity saga might of fucked us by freeing the kang from quantimrealm meaning he started this shit. I think loki and silvia fucked he who remains leaving that kamg who won the war dead and the seat available it just happens as that kang is dead the real bad kang is now free roughly the same time my head Canon
Great recap! I think that somehow Loki has now acquired the power or ability to timeslip, but he doesn't learn how to access it until something so emotional and intense triggers it -- the imminent destruction we see coming for everyone at the end of the episode. And then he can use it to try to alter time - at 23:25 in your video, the look on his face when he slips almost seems like he either knows it's coming, and/or he's actively in control of it as a new power. So he might slip out of the TVA, go back to another point in time in the past, figure out what they didn't do right, and then keep trying to correct that. Basically, the plot point in "Edge of Tomorrow" - when you get an unlimited amount of "do-overs" if you can keep going back into the past (like Dr. Strange's 14 million to 1 timeline, Loki is trying to craft the 1). So I'm expecting episode 5 will torture us by making us wait a bit on the payoff by probably starting the episode in the void and focusing on Renslayer and the hunter for an ungodly number of minutes, before we eventually cut back to the imminent TVA destruction scene and end up seeing Loki slip out right before the end. At that point if he slips out and realizes he has that power ... the rest of the script more or less writes itself.
I think the twist is that it will reloop to where Loki prunes himself… I think this time Loki is not going to prune himself and there will be two Loki’s where one can actually reach the device
bro this episode was fire! the ending got me shocked. that line from Victor "time to be brave" was i think foreshadowing him dying. great episode! cant wait for the next!
The repeated timeloop could be comparable to Dr. Strange repeatedly approaching Dormammu to bargain or looking for any possible solution to defeat thanos in endgame.
@bbalaskan89 That's awesome. Lost and Fringe are my favorite. This season of Loki is an absolute BANGER so far. Totally agree, no idea what's next, but I have a feeling this was supposed to happen as part of HWR plan but we'll see.
I can’t get over how Victor was literally ripped to strands, reminds me when Wanda did the same to Reed and how much pain he was in. Of course Victor’s had to be worse because first his skin went, then muscles, then bones and everything else. He felt all of that and it’s just terrible to think about..
@zoran6850 Why did you delete your comments? blud's scared someone might see his not so bright of a reply 🤣 You failed to see the point of the whole story and I'm not gonna waste my time educating you so believe what you believe if it helps you sleep at night 😂
Wow!! This episode was absolutely insane!! I really enjoyed it!! I still can’t believe Victor Timely Kang is gone!! I really like him a lot!! I don’t know how but I would like to see him again!! It was pretty cool and funny when Victor was interacting with OB. It was pretty cool to see Loki and Sylvie able to use their magic in the TVA!! It was so funny when the yelled back at OB to turn the protocol or whatever it was off. I also find it really interesting and funny how you explained they might be able to get the sacred timeline/ the Multiverse back on line. I LOVE, LOVE this show!! I’m so interested and hyped to see what happens in the last two episodes!!
Charlie!!! This was a great episode, when Timely turned into spaghetti & when Miss Minutes tortured everyone in that box were both incredible parts. Wonder how this will affect ( if it will ) the rest of the movies...
I think Loki's speech about free will is like you cannot leave ruless free will for people. If giving people free will is to letting people hurting others which will sabtage others' free will, then you cannot leave people free will without considering consequences.
I don't think Victor Timely died. I think he was split up to all the timelines. Also I thought there would be a post credit scene like last season when Loki was sent to that place at the end of time.
With the coffee machine, I thought Victor was gonna become a coffee machine creator instead of becoming He Who Remains when he goes back to his timeline. Cause he gives off Wonka vibes
This episode was the best thing to come out of the mcu since endgame. It had EVERYTHING in it, and they weren’t afraid to go the extra mile with a huge payoff. Jaw still on the ground after that ending
If the timeline did reboot, then i believe these last 2 episodes we will see kang from ant man and the wasp. victor didn't die but probably helped the timeline reset.
I’m excited to see how this plays out cause the twists are genuinely throwing me off but the whole “snake eating its own tail thing” is very interesting yet confusing lol cause it’s a lot of paradoxes going on which makes think there’s another Kang lurking somewhere
An Easter egg I noticed is when OB was going over his model and apologized for not having time to make it to scale or painting…that’s a direct lift from “Back to the Future” when Doc was explaining to Marty how he plans on sending him back into the future
Rewatching some of the teasers and trailers, I agree with a lot of the theories about how the TVA; Loki, and the gang will have to fix this. It will have to involve time travel and Loki gathering enough information in order to come up with the way to save his friends and the TVA as a whole. OB will be a great help with the clues in order to make this happen. He who Remains knew the big picture and I would not be surprised if he had a plan for all of this that Loki will somehow discover. As to how season two will end and who ends up managing the TVA in the end if the TVA gets saved. Will this be Loki’s glorious purpose in the end? We will have to wait and see because anything could happen and that is why I love this show!
If you haven't encountered machines like the hot chocolate one before, it essentially makes anything that can use hot water to hydrate a powdered mix, which is why this is both a hot chocolate and a soup machine (hot cup of bouillon broth, possibly w. noodles -- but Lipton style w. the little broken noodles, not ramen b/c those wouldn't work in the machine). It makes Hot Chocolate AND Soup, not hot chocolate soup.
Such a banger episode! I must admit, I think I'm enjoying season 2 of Loki even more then the first! I had a bad feeling way back a few episodes when all those alarms first started going off. Should take those warnings more seriously next time ⏰ 💣
Victor getting Spaghettified was wild lmfao. Caught me off guard. I also wish they would’ve shown the other minute Men get crushed, even if it was just a split second flash.
Well, the Doctor rebooted the universe too, so why not the TVA? :) My initial theory, as soon as Victor was spaghettified, was that he instantly became all his variants across the multiverse, creating all the Kang variants. Maybe reality exploding in the loom is just a big breakdown of the walls of all the dimensions, and not "the end of all things". But, we shall see....
I think VIctor is actually the He who remains in the end of the first season, he is just from another/side timeline. Thats why he, from first season, sent them in parallel timeline to pick him up from there, so they just brought him back to the point he would eventually end up either way. I think, the moment he scanned his "head" in that machine, it showed him something that HWR left for him to see, to make him do the step and "sacrifice" at the end of the episode, but he actually didnt die. And if you look closely at the tower HWR was staying in, the castle, first time we saw it, it was "fixed" from some kind of damage it took before from some source. If you look now, its falling apart and close to the end of season it will probably be pretty destroyed, so someone will have to fix it, repair it, and it seems like it will be Victor of season 2, HWR, after he goes mad, bad, good, kills all other Kangs and turns good. OB created the TVA book based on Victor, and the Victor that inspired that book is actually HWR at the end of the season 1, OB never met him or never knew he is the real HWR from first season. So Victor from season 2 met OB from main timeline of Victor from season 1. Victor from season 2 is from completely another branch.
The scale model scene with OB is a Back to the Future reference! Doc Brown builds a scale model with a toy car and the clock tower where the dialogue is very similar
Killing He Who Remains reset the timeline once, but did it also undergo a second reset when Kang the Conqueror died? Is that why we observe the transition from one Kang statue to a Kang panel behind the wall? It seems plausible that, with the death of Conqueror Kang, the timeline experienced another reboot, allowing the Council to take control? I suggest this because it appears that He Who Remains had a well-thought-out plan for a single timeline reset. However, his plan may not have accounted for the scenario of it resetting twice consecutively. This lack of contingency for a double reset could explain why this particular plan didn't achieve the success it was intended to have with just a single reset.
The ending was abrupt and shocking, and really captures those feelings with its suddenness with barely enough time to process what happened. Absolutely loved it 🤙
There were two things I really wanted to happen while watching the episode, one was Loki answering Sylvie with "We are gods" that we got, and the second one was a hint of the massacre, it did have to be much just a bit of blood dripping,
This series has been a breathe of fresh air. It's nice to see something from marvel that pursues story over spectacle. Over the years it has gotten to be a rinse and repeat formula that wore out it's welcome. I hope they continue down this path . We don't always need bright colors, explosions and over polished cgi. We need competent story telly that draws you in and triggers your emotions.
Pie is a reference to The number π is a mathematical constant that is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, approximately equal to 3.14159. Could mean that all directions lead eventually to pie.
Well it seems like the pie might be erasing their memories. A lot of people think that the pie is sus. Luckily Loki didn’t actually eat any of it though. In the latest episode ‘Science / Fiction,’ there were no pies in the automat. 🤔 Also there’s a RUclips short of a cartoon of Miss Minutes talking about a ‘17 Minute Lunch Break’ featuring the pie and that everything ‘gets reset’ afterwards. 🤔
Seems like the spaghetti strings on Victor Timely adds an infinite number of Kang’s to the timeline… and He Who Remains knew it all along. Plus did anyone notice when He Who Remains said “See ya soon” in the first season- they were in the room during the ending scene? He knew everything all along!
Something I noticed about people's theory about victor timely where his spaghettification means his temporal aura is scattered to create He Who Remains. I love this theory, though I also noticed something else. In episode 1, we see Mobius take a device out to try and catch Loki from the time branches. And he is then sucked back and pushes Mobius through the blast doors... Before the explosion happens, Ravona is purged... Meaning if this theory about He Who Remains is true, it applies also to Ravona who's temporal essence should have been in the loom for processing also - in the comics there are many variants of Renslayer so this could be how He Who Remains ensures there are both of them to complete the cycle
Best episode yet! I loved it. The directing and cinematography was really excellent. Like the tension they created with that shot of Loki & Sylvie with the phone - then to have it break with O.B. being on the other end. They really are hitting it out of the park this season.
Loki and Syvie got their magic abilities back when they rebooted the TVA. I think they may have made a shield with their combined powers as an attempt to save everyone in the room.
Would love to see Mobius, B15, Sylvie and Loki sitting together in total silence, eating some key lime pie at the end of this season-paying homage to the shawarma scene from the 2012 movie.😅 Also, Timely dying was definitely a genuine WTF moment for me, but also amazing cuz we just don’t get that many of these. Well done!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Great episode, wasn't expecting to get to the end of the loop so quickly, but hey, let's see the next one. Loved the scene with O.B. and the scale model, really sounded like a Back to the Future easter egg where Doc Brown creates a "scale model" of the street Marty has to drive down when the lightening strikes to send him back.
I don’t think Victor Timely dies… my theory is that whatever happened to him, he becomes He Who Remains. That’s why his temporal aura matched. It makes sense too, because OB based his work on him.
Here's my FULL Loki Season 2 Episode 4 video and Easter Eggs! RIP to the entire MCU Multiverse till next week! Post all your predictions in the comments. Here's my Loki Season 2 Deleted Scenes video too! ruclips.net/video/qNnN649antQ/видео.html
Charlie great breakdown as always the season has fantastic so far we need this so bad for the MCU! can't wait to see what pop up in 5 -6 every one prepare themselves imagine if the real kang shows up 🤯👍🏽.
Thanks!
Great episode. It seems like each one is more suspenseful each week. I think a reset is coming, and “He Who Remains” had a contingency plan all along.. Thanks for the breakdown.! 👍🏽
No problem! I'll do an Episode 5 Trailer video this weekend!
When Miss Minutes says “Uh Uh Uh Access Denied”, that’s a reference to Jurassic Park when Ray Arnold (who’s played by Samuel Jackson) is trying to login to Nedry’s computer and after many fail attempts, you can hear “uh uh uh, you didn’t say the magic word” over and over again. uh uh uh you didn’t say the magic word). How do they fix it? By literally turning off the power of the park and turning it back on.
The Uh Uh Uh reference is also use in Just Jen Episode in She-Hulk series.
The box kill scene was absolutely insane seeing miss minutes smiling like a maniac while they were crushed was disturbing.
She enjoyed it, way too much!
These woman are crazy
Yeahhhh, Mrs Minutes Ultron coming in soon
Oh my gosh yes I was so sad for them that shit was terrible! I’m really glad that Rayslayer got pruned and Miss Minutes is out of it!
Psycho clock sounds like a horror movie
This series is literally breaking and saving the entire MCU. It's such a breath of fresh air that it's not under performing but actually meeting or exceeding expectations. It's just that good. Each episode has been a banger and how they keep answering previous plot points is so good.
This episode was insane
The ending caught me off guard
RIP Victor Timely...I liked the guy
I can't wait for what happens next
expectations properly subverted! i thought he was going to mess with the loom and kill them all and take power. lol nope
@@danielroden9424I had the same exact thought "thus is so obvious because he is a genius he will trap them and claim the whole TVA" then boooom
Loki had a plan, they will go back to past over and over again to try and save TVA and fix everything.
@@cardianaminajgrande5115 but aren't they contradicting with what time travel concept in avengers endgame "travelling to the past doesn't affect your present/future"
@@cardianaminajgrande5115 ohhh. Thats why they did the whole time slipping thingy back in episode one , so they can fix this problem with travelling back
I just want Thor and Loki to have a reunion before all of this over whenever that will be. Maybe in Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars 🤞🏻
I expect Loki to act as the new Nick Fury in the next Avengers film. Getting a team across time to fight Kang and then Secret Wars.
ill prob cry
@@cancerino666I love this, hope this happens 🤞
but this is the M She U now. Yet most of us want to see male characters return... that's how bad it's become.
@@cancerino666bro I could totally see them doing that he could even bring back iron man (I know tall order)
Miss Minutes was the true villain. She mocked Victor, "you will never be him". After that, he felt the need to prove himself worthy and get himself killed thus dooming the TVA!
I agree. I think this was part of her plan (He Who Remains plan) the entire time. He seems to have had everything mapped out and she has been guiding everyone into doing exactly what she (and he) wants.
維克多沒死，被時間輻射傳送到第四集開場的地方！
Exactly. Many don't even understand this. He felt sad.
Or creating all the Kangs
Don't you see the "bigger picture"? Everything is going according to He Who Remains' plan. Miss Minutes was created by him and is just another chess piece in his game.
Victor Timely's fate in this episode I think is a set up for another 'which came first' idea, Kang or Timely. I think Victor's fate at the end of episode is the catalyst to spread his temporal aura to ALL of the new multiverse so every Kang that arises shares the same temporal aura which was originally Victor Timely's. That's why the machine calls him He Who Remains when it scans Victor's aura. The end of Victor Timely is the beginning of Kang and the end of the last Kang (He Who Remains) is the beginning of Victor Timely. And the loop goes on.
Good theory
🎉 i like this idea
Fascinating theory indeed
Well that makes good sense
You, sir, should win whatever Charlie is giving away. As much as they kept referencing Ouroboros, this theory that Victor Timely is the end and beginning of Kang is the most sensible and likely origin to Kang.
It’s getting to the point where it’s scary how good this show is. It’s setting the bar pretty high. This is what I expected all shows to be after End Game. That ending just shocked the hell outta me😮
nice!
It's scary asf how many people believe this show is so great.
Is it because of all the shiiit Marvel has put out lately. Causing this mediocre show to seem special?
Sure, I enjoy the show. But more than ok it isn't
@@al1383nahh this is good tv ur just biased
@@al1383 lol "mediocre show". i know that taste is subjective, but man. you are haaaaard to please
@@al1383 if this show is mediocre plz give me an example of a great show🤨
I loved the hat tip to Back to the Future movies. That was the part where OB said he was sorry the model wasn’t to scale and he only put on 1 coat of paint. Doc says a similar thing twice in the BTTF movies. It was a great reference.
The adorable thing about Victor being fascinated by the hot chocolate machine is, hot cocoa was a fairly recent thing in his time. In the 1700s, hot chocolate was still a new, fashionable drink for the wealthy due to its requirement of sugar and the import of this foreign food called cocoa. Producing cocoa for drinkable beverages was an extremely laborious process, requiring the manual roasting of the beans, then grinding them on a hot slab and finely milling them into a powder.
Even in Victor's days, it was still a drink reserved mostly for special occasions during the cold months. Hearing of a machine, that can produce hot cocoa, any time of year, at the push of a button? No wonder he would be fascinated! He has no idea what instant Swiss Miss chocolate water is. It would be like one of us hearing of a 3D printer that can create a piping hot, fresh pizza out of thin air in a matter of moments. We'd want to see that, too.
Facts
well he also seems to be a bit obsessed with changing the temperature of his beverages. in the last episode he was super duper proud of his chair that has a built-in drink refrigerator. now he finds a beverage heater & is just elated.
That would be cool but Victor is from the late 1800s. They met him at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. He was fascinated by the machine, not the hot cocoa, since it had already been in America for over 100 years.
@@DPSFSU 100 years isn't a very long time. Chocolate was still expensive, and required a lot of manual labor to produce in Victor's time. Sugar also was expensive and not frequently consumed by the working class like him. We got the cocoa press circa 1830 in Amsterdam, and it took a while for it to reach the US. Victor here was still seven years away from the first Hershey bar. 1876 was when they first began adding milk to cocoa, prior to that hot cocoa was generally made with any variety of liquid you chose, commonly hot liquors. Commercially produced cheap cocoa mix like we know it today wasn't invented until 1950, nearly 60 years in Victor's future. You still had to mill the cocoa brick yourself and mix it into hot liquid of your choice, and then add sugar. Hot chocolate was still a relatively high end drink in Victor's time, and a machine which could conjure it out of basically thin air would still have been a marvel to him.
We need the star trek food replicator
I loved the "we are gods" line.
Loki learning to take responsibility.
The delivery of that line and the shot itself was really well done.
One of the best scene apart from cocoa machine scene
Same 👌🏾👌🏾
That ending was jaw dropping. Didn't see that coming
That ending was so fast and abrupt that Quicksilver didn't even see it coming.
I was like this better not be the end of episode... leave us hanging like that for a week.... was so mad
That scene with Dox and her crew was horrific, Marvel has been getting really good at the horror elements recently, but that shook me. Hearing the dripping afterwards and screaming just terrified me. The compactor machine was cool, but i thought it would only stay as a thing to scare Brad in ep 2, but to see it put into use and be successful was horrific. That was amazing to see Marvel takes leaps in their horror
They didn’t have to show it either which I don’t particularly like but respect
with Miss Minutes’ face 😖
@@coco2.2and Ravonna's face 🤯
It was clever instead of showing the gore!
That Victor Timely unraveling caught me off guard for real, 😅😅 Was hoping for a hero moment playing out in its entirety
He won't be the last Kang Variant we see
But technically him and all his variants (so all kangs?) got wiped from all timelines right. Wasn’t that the fear for Loki at the beginning.. that it’s not resettable?
@@lordcorporal4247I would assume bc he was spaghettified before the timeline blew up, I think he may just be scattered across timelines and will lead to the different variants we’ve seen (Timely, Kang, and HWR) existing at once in different universes
@@NiceyP0123 so Loki being in danger of being eliminated from all timelines at the beginning was if he kept letting himself phase thru time and didn’t cure himself in time? and only mobius would’ve been spaghetti-fied (but still have mobius variants exist?). So the spaghetti-fication is just one variant dying,black hole style, and Loki was only specifically in danger of being fully eliminated because of his time warping disease?
@@lordcorporal4247On some emergency awesome shit I saw a book about black holes on the end credits so that thought crossed my mind
Can we please have the Loki team in charge of the next couple phases please? They clearly know what theyre doing
It would get old quick.. the TVA should be left behind after this phase.
They know how to tell a story
Agree , they do a story pretty good
@@M.Evra91they were talking about having the team behind the creation of loki be in charge of the rest of the MCU too
@@randy6679 I agree then. The story keeps you guessing. And the effects are amazing.
The Loki arc has been one for the history books. I’ve never seen this in the history of movies and TV of his development. It’s honestly historic
From the end of the first avengers to now has been some Zuko level character development
Totally agree. Mad credit to Tom Hiddleston - up there as one of the best portrayals of a character ever. He’s the only thing I’m truly excited about in the MCU right now.
I agree
When he sighed and said "we are gods" that hit me like Look how far he's come.
@@bryansamuel9427yeah he humble god now, Jesus level😂
I think this was all part of Kang's plan because Victor Timley is the prime Kang and by him going out there and becoming spaghetti, releases his temporal aura into the mutliverse creating Kang variants. I maybe wrong but you never know.
maybe yes
Yes maybe that device was planned to do that. His life's work.
Makes sense
I feel like Victor had a Batman Crisis on Infinite Earths moment. He knew he would disintegrate when he went out there which is why he stopped Loki. Timely is too smart and they only needed him for his aura
Also Ms. Mins has gotten more terrifying with each episode. Imagine if she ran into Ultron 😭
I don't think Timely knew he would disintegrate. I think he thought he was doing the right thing, the brave thing, and that only he would be able to fix to loom.
@@deanhatescoffee a very plausible explanation bc he was a bit of a con artist, but overall he was a good man.
Don't make me cry because I really liked Victor even though we had a few moments of doubt of his character. But after that last pat on his shoulder from loki, I just knew something bad would happen to him 😭
Genuinely one of the best MCU episodes/movies ever made. Non-stop all episode. Shocking and horrifying death of Dox and minutemen. Thrilling, unpredictable ending with a Infinity War style cliffhanger. 10/10 wow
This episode was outstanding! It's crazy how good Loki really is. That cliffhanger was intense and the acting was superb!
Best MCU series by far!
@@movado0379
No question
That ending is one of the finest endings of an episode I’ve ever seen. The way the score cut out mid tune and the blank screen was epic. You could hear a pin drop.
Victor did not deserve that ending at all. the whole time we were thinking he'd eventually turn but the actual twist was him dying a horrible death so tragic :/
It's all He who remains plan, to kil himself to bring more of himself
I didn't think he'd turn for a second, my guess was he'd somehow become iron lad
I was thinking him making it and taking over but him disappearing was so unexpected 😅😂🥹
I'd like to pedantically point out that the Grandfather Paradox and the Bootstrap Paradox are not the same thing. In fact, they're basically inversions of each other. The Bootstrap Paradox is when you have a causal loop, making it so that something ultimately causes itself; in other words, where A causes B which causes A again. So for instance, the TVA guidebook caused Victor to invent stuff, but Victor's inventions caused OB to write the guidebook; so that's a Bootstrap Paradox.
The Grandfather Paradox, on the other hand, is when an event prevents itself from occurring. So you kill your grandfather, which causes you not to be born, but then that prevents you from killing your grandfather. For the OB/Victor connection to be a Grandfather Paradox, Victor getting the guidebook would somehow have to prevent Rennslayer from giving him the guidebook, which isn't what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic; I'm a nerd. Carry on.
Bootstrap is like Terminator movies. Alternative Timelines.
The last exchange between Dox and Bradley was the standout for me in this episode. It was so well done with Dox trying to bring Bradley from making the misguided choice with a warm motherly tone.
Really wished they had used Episode 2 to dive deeper into these two characters more. I would have added a throwback scene showing how Dox took X-5 in as his mentor and surrogate parent from when he was a new hunter. Maybe after he messed up and was punished by then Judge Rennslayer. Would have made this scene so much more impactful than it already is.
The TVA is a place comprised of displaced individuals across time who literally had nowhere to go back to. It would make this stood out even more as a family relationship was formed even in the midst of that. It would also bring more to the title of the episode: The Heart of the TVA. This is the hour where the heart of the organisation is tested and everyone has to make a choice in the face of it.
Any thoughts?
Seems like there was a totally different storyline that got changed at some point.
I believe they left him alive to explain what’s up with he and general Dox, because they wouldn’t have showed us that scene in the beginning, like how she treated him like her son for no reason
The hot chocolate changed the tva soldier’s Behavior. Made him happier. Which is probably part of the reason mobius is so upbeat all the time. He’s hooked on the food and drink. Victor was suspicious cause he knows he built it and there’s more to it and he figured it out when the agents mood changed after drinking it.
This is a really interesting theory and I believe you’re onto something here because they have made such a big deal about eating pie for a long time now, and there has to be some meaning behind it. Marvel will never add so many scenes with pie and not have a meaning to it, we’ll just see then. This show is absolutely incredible and I just wish Marvel doesn’t mess up whatever comes after like they did with pretty much everything after endgame
It's like real life and how the food industry got us all hooked on sugar. But I just thought Victor was obsessed with the machine and not the cocoa. Good catch
Like a lotus eater.....
the cake is a lie@@theheatstudio
I loved how wicked and psychopathic they made Miss Minutes as the episode progressed until she reached Ultimate Villian Mode ..will she return ? Is she still around ?
Yes, she'll be back.
I think she will be back yes. She also stated to Victor that she always wanted to have a body - she realized the potential to become something more during her time with HWR, who refused her that. Maybe she could become too powerful? I don't know, just guessing. I definitely think we haven't seen that last of her/this thing.
Maybe in Kang Dynasty 😵💫🫣
That Victor death was so shocking and amazing, the VFX did a beautiful job showing just how horrific something like this might be.
Yeah they should red bits which looked like his guts 😷
Also the music department with the sounds/scores and actors reacting chef’s kiss!
This seasons is incredible. Thanks to Jonathan Majors. He's just phenomenal.
And Tom Hiddleston 🎉 And screenwriters 😊
Here’s an interesting thought…. What if Victor Timely’s spaghetification into all of time is what *creates* all of the Kang variants, including He Who Remains? That would explain why his temporal aura worked and why he seems to be at the beginning of it all, including inspiring OB’s work. That final scene may be the beginning of the circle of time… 🤔
I like it
My thoughts exactly!
That and the fact that this variant was born in the past which doesn't line up with the others.
Yesss 🎉 That really makes sense
That would be very unnecessary, given the loki lore and how if a character exists in the mcu, there are already infinite variants of the character across the multiverse without any special "tinkering".
I'm fully convinced... None of us know what's really going on. The dialogue in this episode is so captivating. Loki might be my favorite piece of Media, EVER.
The camera angles in this episode were SICK. They were def going for a horror/thriller vibe with some of the angles. Awesome
i love victor timely meeting OB and just fanboying each other
Since Ouroboros remembers Loki, this means that Ouroboros was so irrelevant that he never got his memory wiped. The box death was awful, and Loki finally reaching the future he slipped into was super amazing.
I think HWR had to leave his memory alone bc he knows how everything works. My theory is that he's an android and doesn't know it
Ending completely shocked me! Ravonna got pruned, Miss minutes evil smile, Timely turns to spaghetti 😮 and the TVA is no more! Truly I don’t know what’s going to happen moving forward. Can’t wait till next week!
It truly is crazy and exciting… This will connect to The Marvels and Deadpool 3
When He Who Remains wipes everyone's memory, he is secluding himself away from everyone, to be forgotten by everyone except Miss Minutes and then eventually Loki and Sylvie. You can feel the sadness in his mannerisms. He knows that when he says "for all time always" he's setting himself to keep the peace all alone for all time, always.
I think what loki is saying about freedom is if you give people freedom and just leave them without guidance leads to more chaos. And in this case will lead to the kang wars and back to where they started.
The dialog between Loki and Sylvie in the pie shop basically made me realize it's effectively a "trolley problem" that they're setting up. Give free will, leave everyone on their own, and you end up with multiversal war and the deaths of trillions. OR ... you occasionally find an individual variant that puts the timeline at risk of splintering, you prune them and only them, and time continues on peacefully.
Just like the trolley problem itself, ultimately there are no good answers.
Kinda the same situation in real-time world! We can't live peacefully while everyone thinks his idea works fine cuz we don't see the entirety.
@@dougtoombs9195I’m stupid define trolley problem please
@@aspreedacoreFirst, you're not stupid :P Second, the trolley problem is a thought experiment. Imagine a train is coming down a track at high speed with no ability to stop before it hits a group of people standing on the tracks- the only way to change the situation is to switch the train onto a different track that only one person is standing on. Do you intervene and switch the train onto the track that will only kill one person? Or do you not intervene, and let the group of people die? It's an interesting moral question. (In my opinion the trolley problem is just asking if you're pragmatic or not, as a pragmatist such as myself would say flat out, kill the one over the many)
MCU Captain America's opinion on the matter from Infinity War: "We don't trade lives."
@@bradnewsbear I see reminds me of a certain recent animated Spider-Man movie
Prediction: Sylvie will send herself, Loki and Mobius back in time to the timeline she was living in. This will cause Loki to start time slipping again, and it will give us a chance to see Mobius get a glimpse of his previous life as well. Anyway this will give them a second chance to "fix" things.
Interesting theory. But I think either Loki time slips or him with Sylvie. Because both of them are responsible for what happened. It means they have to fix what they done in season 1 leading to this catastrophe
Yeah in the trailers it kinda looks like Loki is going to go find Mobius and B15 in their "real lives"
This series has literally saved the MCU by itself! The screenwriters who's in charge of production PLEASE be in charge of future MCU projects!
For sure
No exaggeration, this is the only reason I’m still interested in the mcu rn
Loki writers: We saved the MCU! Whoo! Okay, now let's blow it up.
Not saved😂. The Marvels flopping 😂😂😂
Same! I'm hooked. I haven't been paying attention to anything MCU lately. Moonknight was the last time I was THIS invested. Can't wait for the next episode.
What an incredible episode! That wasn't a fade to Black ending.... It was a slam to black!
THEORY : LOKI HAS THE TIME STONE, in one the trailers, he asked OB ‘is there another way they can try it again’ and they just turned off the safety protocols meaning magic and I’m guessing the drawer full of infinity stones now work.
That is a great theory. All those stones would become active again 🤔
Its been noted several times that stones are meanigless where there at..episode 1 showed that when they were playingvwith them.
@@BacktothaBaysiccs510 if the security is off they can use magic that includes the infinity stones
Infinity stones only work with their respective universes
@@noknok5363i thought the same thing.
What if Victor Timely actually didn’t die in that scene? But was instead spread across all the timelines - thus becoming all the variants of Kang.
I was thinking the same thing!!
0:24 Can't stop laughing at Mobius panicking 😂😂😂
Man Loki really is saving the MCU
If Kang does come back, I would love it to be the Ant-Man and the wasp quantumania version. Showing that he didn't die and instead ended up in the TVA would be a great cliffhanger leading into Kang dynasty.
I would rather the quantumania one .. he seems like he wanted revenge and was more menacing. I looked at thst version as the apex predator one. He was nurfed because of quantum realm time runes diffrently and he couldn't get out or manipulate it. His other variants couldn't kill him so he was banished but antman who saved the infinity saga might of fucked us by freeing the kang from quantimrealm meaning he started this shit. I think loki and silvia fucked he who remains leaving that kamg who won the war dead and the seat available it just happens as that kang is dead the real bad kang is now free roughly the same time my head Canon
Great recap! I think that somehow Loki has now acquired the power or ability to timeslip, but he doesn't learn how to access it until something so emotional and intense triggers it -- the imminent destruction we see coming for everyone at the end of the episode. And then he can use it to try to alter time - at 23:25 in your video, the look on his face when he slips almost seems like he either knows it's coming, and/or he's actively in control of it as a new power.
So he might slip out of the TVA, go back to another point in time in the past, figure out what they didn't do right, and then keep trying to correct that. Basically, the plot point in "Edge of Tomorrow" - when you get an unlimited amount of "do-overs" if you can keep going back into the past (like Dr. Strange's 14 million to 1 timeline, Loki is trying to craft the 1).
So I'm expecting episode 5 will torture us by making us wait a bit on the payoff by probably starting the episode in the void and focusing on Renslayer and the hunter for an ungodly number of minutes, before we eventually cut back to the imminent TVA destruction scene and end up seeing Loki slip out right before the end. At that point if he slips out and realizes he has that power ... the rest of the script more or less writes itself.
I have to agree with this solution, it's the best one yet.
I think the twist is that it will reloop to where Loki prunes himself… I think this time Loki is not going to prune himself and there will be two Loki’s where one can actually reach the device
Then morbius will die in the first episode
Indeed. Loki is going to undo the Loom rupture -- otherwise the time skipping loop plot element is pretty pointless
Nope as we saw this loki with trench coat did time travel to some shopping store...I think somehow loki will be the one to take care of TvA
Then Loki would keep time slipping and Morbius would die.
bro this episode was fire! the ending got me shocked. that line from Victor "time to be brave" was i think foreshadowing him dying. great episode! cant wait for the next!
The repeated timeloop could be comparable to Dr. Strange repeatedly approaching Dormammu to bargain or looking for any possible solution to defeat thanos in endgame.
This show is a giant elaborate timey whiny Groundhog Day and it’s awesome
Loki quietly becoming the best thing Marvel has ever made
This was the best ever ending of an episode of any Marvel series ever, making it so dramatic yet continuing with a horrific ending was marvelous ❤❤❤❤
It was a great ending!
I loved it, but I was pissed because it felt like I was back in the damn jungle watching a polar bear attack [LOST]
@@NerfThisBoardGames Love LOST but why did you feel like you were there with the polar bear? Do you mean just because of the time themes?
@@Tzoppo11 total WTF moment
I feel like for once in forever, I have no idea what's coming next
Just like when I saw the damn polar bear
@bbalaskan89 That's awesome. Lost and Fringe are my favorite. This season of Loki is an absolute BANGER so far. Totally agree, no idea what's next, but I have a feeling this was supposed to happen as part of HWR plan but we'll see.
I can’t get over how Victor was literally ripped to strands, reminds me when Wanda did the same to Reed and how much pain he was in. Of course Victor’s had to be worse because first his skin went, then muscles, then bones and everything else. He felt all of that and it’s just terrible to think about..
They went straight sicko mode on this episode and the MCU and us fans are all the better for it!
I always said Loki needs a big screen movie 👍
But what would it be about
@zoran6850 nope, you are so wrong
@zoran6850 the amount of likes my post is getting will entertain you enough, let's see how many people agrees with me compared to yours. ^_^
@zoran6850 "Please entertain me" yeah sure bud 😂
@zoran6850 Why did you delete your comments? blud's scared someone might see his not so bright of a reply 🤣
You failed to see the point of the whole story and I'm not gonna waste my time educating you so believe what you believe if it helps you sleep at night 😂
Wow!! This episode was absolutely insane!! I really enjoyed it!! I still can’t believe Victor Timely Kang is gone!! I really like him a lot!! I don’t know how but I would like to see him again!! It was pretty cool and funny when Victor was interacting with OB. It was pretty cool to see Loki and Sylvie able to use their magic in the TVA!! It was so funny when the yelled back at OB to turn the protocol or whatever it was off. I also find it really interesting and funny how you explained they might be able to get the sacred timeline/ the Multiverse back on line. I LOVE, LOVE this show!! I’m so interested and hyped to see what happens in the last two episodes!!
Charlie!!! This was a great episode, when Timely turned into spaghetti & when Miss Minutes tortured everyone in that box were both incredible parts. Wonder how this will affect ( if it will ) the rest of the movies...
I think Loki's speech about free will is like you cannot leave ruless free will for people. If giving people free will is to letting people hurting others which will sabtage others' free will, then you cannot leave people free will without considering consequences.
Yes you can just have to teach and protect better. With life comes death and with battles comes peace. Life’s Balancing Act 🧠
And in the Avenges he said that ‘Freedom was life’s greatest lie.’ 😭
I don't think Victor Timely died. I think he was split up to all the timelines. Also I thought there would be a post credit scene like last season when Loki was sent to that place at the end of time.
In the comics Kang did that Renslayer that her essence spread out time.
With the coffee machine, I thought Victor was gonna become a coffee machine creator instead of becoming He Who Remains when he goes back to his timeline. Cause he gives off Wonka vibes
This episode was the best thing to come out of the mcu since endgame. It had EVERYTHING in it, and they weren’t afraid to go the extra mile with a huge payoff. Jaw still on the ground after that ending
If the timeline did reboot, then i believe these last 2 episodes we will see kang from ant man and the wasp. victor didn't die but probably helped the timeline reset.
When Miss minutes first hacked all the TVA systems the "ah ah ah" gave me massive Jurassic Park, Dennis Nedry hacking the park system vibes 😂
i love miss minutes final words to victor timely before getting rebooted is that you'll never be him
I’m excited to see how this plays out cause the twists are genuinely throwing me off but the whole “snake eating its own tail thing” is very interesting yet confusing lol cause it’s a lot of paradoxes going on which makes think there’s another Kang lurking somewhere
This episode was WILD! Now we’re getting into the crux of time loop and I can’t wait to see how they handle it 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
An Easter egg I noticed is when OB was going over his model and apologized for not having time to make it to scale or painting…that’s a direct lift from “Back to the Future” when Doc was explaining to Marty how he plans on sending him back into the future
Rewatching some of the teasers and trailers, I agree with a lot of the theories about how the TVA; Loki, and the gang will have to fix this. It will have to involve time travel and Loki gathering enough information in order to come up with the way to save his friends and the TVA as a whole. OB will be a great help with the clues in order to make this happen. He who Remains knew the big picture and I would not be surprised if he had a plan for all of this that Loki will somehow discover. As to how season two will end and who ends up managing the TVA in the end if the TVA gets saved. Will this be Loki’s glorious purpose in the end? We will have to wait and see because anything could happen and that is why I love this show!
i hope in the season finale of loki we see deadpool causing all type of incursion throughout the multiverse
If you haven't encountered machines like the hot chocolate one before, it essentially makes anything that can use hot water to hydrate a powdered mix, which is why this is both a hot chocolate and a soup machine (hot cup of bouillon broth, possibly w. noodles -- but Lipton style w. the little broken noodles, not ramen b/c those wouldn't work in the machine). It makes Hot Chocolate AND Soup, not hot chocolate soup.
Yes!! Thank you. It literally says “Chocolate. Soup.” I swear these RUclipsrs think too much about the wrong things
Such a banger episode! I must admit, I think I'm enjoying season 2 of Loki even more then the first! I had a bad feeling way back a few episodes when all those alarms first started going off. Should take those warnings more seriously next time ⏰ 💣
Victor getting Spaghettified was wild lmfao. Caught me off guard. I also wish they would’ve shown the other minute Men get crushed, even if it was just a split second flash.
Well, the Doctor rebooted the universe too, so why not the TVA? :)
My initial theory, as soon as Victor was spaghettified, was that he instantly became all his variants across the multiverse, creating all the Kang variants. Maybe reality exploding in the loom is just a big breakdown of the walls of all the dimensions, and not "the end of all things". But, we shall see....
Thought the same thing
I think VIctor is actually the He who remains in the end of the first season, he is just from another/side timeline. Thats why he, from first season, sent them in parallel timeline to pick him up from there, so they just brought him back to the point he would eventually end up either way. I think, the moment he scanned his "head" in that machine, it showed him something that HWR left for him to see, to make him do the step and "sacrifice" at the end of the episode, but he actually didnt die. And if you look closely at the tower HWR was staying in, the castle, first time we saw it, it was "fixed" from some kind of damage it took before from some source. If you look now, its falling apart and close to the end of season it will probably be pretty destroyed, so someone will have to fix it, repair it, and it seems like it will be Victor of season 2, HWR, after he goes mad, bad, good, kills all other Kangs and turns good.
OB created the TVA book based on Victor, and the Victor that inspired that book is actually HWR at the end of the season 1, OB never met him or never knew he is the real HWR from first season. So Victor from season 2 met OB from main timeline of Victor from season 1. Victor from season 2 is from completely another branch.
There's a lot of things I didn't expect in this episode 😂 love it
The scale model scene with OB is a Back to the Future reference! Doc Brown builds a scale model with a toy car and the clock tower where the dialogue is very similar
I was left completely speechless with this episode I can’t even imagine what’s going to happen in the last two episodes
Loki talking about free will is a callback to his speech "You were made to be ruled."
And how ‘freedom is life’s greatest lie.’
Killing He Who Remains reset the timeline once, but did it also undergo a second reset when Kang the Conqueror died? Is that why we observe the transition from one Kang statue to a Kang panel behind the wall? It seems plausible that, with the death of Conqueror Kang, the timeline experienced another reboot, allowing the Council to take control?
I suggest this because it appears that He Who Remains had a well-thought-out plan for a single timeline reset. However, his plan may not have accounted for the scenario of it resetting twice consecutively. This lack of contingency for a double reset could explain why this particular plan didn't achieve the success it was intended to have with just a single reset.
Miss Minutes has gone full bloody insane
It was absolutely terrifying watching Ms. Minutes smile while she watches Dox and her crew get turned into Jelly. This season is incredible
This show is absolutely amazing. I've never been soo glued to a TV show like this every episode leaves off at a cliffhanger.
The ending was abrupt and shocking, and really captures those feelings with its suddenness with barely enough time to process what happened. Absolutely loved it 🤙
😊😊
There were two things I really wanted to happen while watching the episode, one was Loki answering Sylvie with "We are gods" that we got, and the second one was a hint of the massacre, it did have to be much just a bit of blood dripping,
That victor timely spaghettifying scene was soo freaking shocking 😅😅
This series has been a breathe of fresh air. It's nice to see something from marvel that pursues story over spectacle. Over the years it has gotten to be a rinse and repeat formula that wore out it's welcome. I hope they continue down this path . We don't always need bright colors, explosions and over polished cgi. We need competent story telly that draws you in and triggers your emotions.
Pie is a reference to The number π is a mathematical constant that is the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter, approximately equal to 3.14159. Could mean that all directions lead eventually to pie.
Well it seems like the pie might be erasing their memories.
A lot of people think that the pie is sus. Luckily Loki didn’t actually eat any of it though. In the latest episode ‘Science / Fiction,’ there were no pies in the automat. 🤔
Also there’s a RUclips short of a cartoon of Miss Minutes talking about a ‘17 Minute Lunch Break’ featuring the pie and that everything ‘gets reset’ afterwards. 🤔
I got chills when they got crushed and miss minutes was just smiling in evil 😭
Seems like the spaghetti strings on Victor Timely adds an infinite number of Kang’s to the timeline… and He Who Remains knew it all along.
Plus did anyone notice when He Who Remains said “See ya soon” in the first season- they were in the room during the ending scene?
He knew everything all along!
Something I noticed about people's theory about victor timely where his spaghettification means his temporal aura is scattered to create He Who Remains.
I love this theory, though I also noticed something else. In episode 1, we see Mobius take a device out to try and catch Loki from the time branches. And he is then sucked back and pushes Mobius through the blast doors... Before the explosion happens, Ravona is purged... Meaning if this theory about He Who Remains is true, it applies also to Ravona who's temporal essence should have been in the loom for processing also - in the comics there are many variants of Renslayer so this could be how He Who Remains ensures there are both of them to complete the cycle
Dox scene was by far the most disturbing. You could hear the liquid hitting the floor and Ms minutes just being a psychopath and smiling 😳
Loki is now the Ironman of this phase of Marvel. I hope they build everything around him from this point
That’s the plan. 😉
That ending had my jaw on the floor. What a devastating episode.
Best episode yet! I loved it. The directing and cinematography was really excellent. Like the tension they created with that shot of Loki & Sylvie with the phone - then to have it break with O.B. being on the other end. They really are hitting it out of the park this season.
Loki and Syvie got their magic abilities back when they rebooted the TVA. I think they may have made a shield with their combined powers as an attempt to save everyone in the room.
I hope so.
Loki has always been He Who Remains master plan.
This was by far the best episode so far
It was a great WTF Cliffhanger ending!
Would love to see Mobius, B15, Sylvie and Loki sitting together in total silence, eating some key lime pie at the end of this season-paying homage to the shawarma scene from the 2012 movie.😅 Also, Timely dying was definitely a genuine WTF moment for me, but also amazing cuz we just don’t get that many of these. Well done!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
When is loki gonna have his own film.A masterpiece series so far
Great episode, wasn't expecting to get to the end of the loop so quickly, but hey, let's see the next one. Loved the scene with O.B. and the scale model, really sounded like a Back to the Future easter egg where Doc Brown creates a "scale model" of the street Marty has to drive down when the lightening strikes to send him back.
I don’t think Victor Timely dies… my theory is that whatever happened to him, he becomes He Who Remains. That’s why his temporal aura matched. It makes sense too, because OB based his work on him.
Oh for sure. But still. That spaghetti death was not expected 😂
Could be why HwR wasn't outright evil, he seemed to have some regrets
No 😭. Please don't let Victor be dead. He's the best variant of he who remains
Victor's death was ffffing terrifying... 😐