How to play "out" like Scofield and Scott Henderson

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • A lesson about how to develop an outside sound like John Scofield and Scott Henderson on the guitars.
    The concept has to do with using 4 arpeggios that come from the H/W diminished scale over a dominant chord.
    On an A7 chord the 4 arpeggios are:
    A with a #2 (A C C# E)
    C With a #2 (C D# E G)
    Eb with a #2 (Eb Gb G Bb)
    F# with a #2 (F# G Bb C#)
    Remember that those starting points spell an A Dim7 chord
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Комментарии • 155

  • @Fitzliputzli23
    @Fitzliputzli23 Год назад +24

    Seriously, guys, with this video we finally enter "real deal territory". It is like the recipe of a magic potion that may only be passed from one druid to another. Thanks for sharing it with us regular Joes!

    • @omko73
      @omko73 5 месяцев назад

      This makes scofield the Obelix of guitar?

  • @MrAcollett
    @MrAcollett 2 месяца назад +3

    I have been chasing that sound for thirty years, bless you.

  • @A423-f9o
    @A423-f9o Год назад +19

    This lesson is GOLD!

  • @winstonsmith8240
    @winstonsmith8240 Год назад +13

    Cracking. I know the diminished scale pretty well, but it often sounds like, well, the diminished scale. This takes it to a new level. Quite frankly...brilliant. Well done, and THANK YOU! ❤

  • @boogjii
    @boogjii Год назад +12

    this is the best lesson i’ve ever had. exactly what ive been looking for thank you !

  • @basgerritsen9669
    @basgerritsen9669 Год назад +7

    Another thing to consider is when Scofield is playing "outside" sounds, it's very often in order to "suggest" a different chord than the one that's being played, he's basically substituting another chord over the changes. It's not random most of the time, he can really outline some different chords.
    E.g. let's imagine he's playing a b-flat blues, when he plays a lick using a derivative of the b-flat diminished scale over the 4 chord or a associated chord, he's outlining the d# dim chord that's often subbed in after the second 4-1 change in a jazz blues.
    This is a really interesting thing to experiment with: try and outline a chord that's related to, but different from the one that's actually being played and you'll get some really cool outside tones that will still sound "right" to most people's ears.

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  Год назад +2

      Yup basically what this is about. Just finding those subs in the diminished scale

  • @MauriceBierhuizen
    @MauriceBierhuizen Год назад +14

    How on earth could it be that I've been listening to Henderson and Scofield for 30 years, and never figured this out.... Hahahaa. This must be some secret jewel only shared between the greatest players on earth 🤣Thanks Dani, I know what to practice next couple of weeks

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  Год назад

      Hehe you’re welcome man. Check out more vids on the channel

    • @winstonsmith8240
      @winstonsmith8240 Год назад

      Me too! Same. Hope it's going well. It's now at the top of my 'to do' lists. Unbelievable.

  • @johnhahn1877
    @johnhahn1877 Год назад +16

    Great stuff Dani! Ive not seen this vibe explained like this before. Brilliant. Jazz cats are going to put out a hit on you for letting their mystery mojo out of the bag😅.

  • @LeviClay
    @LeviClay 3 года назад +6

    killing it as always man

  • @MalcaratMartinez
    @MalcaratMartinez 4 месяца назад +2

    THANK YOU !!!!...... first guy I see speaking english to us illiterate blues / rock players :). This is GOLD !!

  • @omarpervaiz
    @omarpervaiz Год назад +5

    Awesome! I've been asking jazz friends for something like this for rock players for years now. You nailed it! Tabs to go with it would make this a great go transition to jazz fusion lesson.

  • @williamboris8014
    @williamboris8014 Месяц назад

    Excellent, practical, guitar friendly explanation of the diminished sound and application!

  • @PhillFest
    @PhillFest Год назад +4

    Fantastic and well explained. Been toying with diminished triads in my playing for years, but this was SO obvious! Love it! Thx!

  • @marianovico4933
    @marianovico4933 3 года назад +12

    Your lessons are very good, so is your playing and sound,no speed for speed and meaningless notes but excellent choice of notes in the best instrument and best style ever...(guitar and jazz-rock fusion, all the best buddy and greetings from Havana Cuba.

  • @TheBluebirdsBigBand
    @TheBluebirdsBigBand Месяц назад

    Good work thank you.

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp58 6 месяцев назад

    A superb explanation. The tone of the guitar is exquisite.

  • @gabrielkeam6106
    @gabrielkeam6106 2 года назад +8

    don't forget you can play whole tone and outline augmented arpeggios off the fifth which can move in whole steps for a cool effect

  • @kevinmunoz2004
    @kevinmunoz2004 Год назад +1

    Subscribed! Love the vibe and explanation of your lesson

  • @이선흠-g1u
    @이선흠-g1u 11 месяцев назад +1

    Daaaaaummmmm that is most killer lesson its gorgeous mamma mi a!!!!!!

  • @deaconfuse3850
    @deaconfuse3850 3 года назад +15

    Awesome lesson, Jimmy Herring seems to do that a lot too. It is one of the most badass sounds to me for some reason.

    • @randyhetlage9202
      @randyhetlage9202 2 года назад

      all git guys do it

    • @jakollee
      @jakollee 2 года назад

      Yeah, I love the sound of the "outside" playing too and I'm a big Jimmy Herring fan! Another great one to check out is Shawn Tubbs - the licks he plays are crazy sounding but somehow they work!!!

  • @nakoshoko1
    @nakoshoko1 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for that lesson! Your playing is great!

  • @jcmd2473
    @jcmd2473 2 года назад +1

    Great lesson!!!! you open my mind!

  • @joelgueller2979
    @joelgueller2979 5 месяцев назад

    hi Dave great information toda rabba

  • @electromatic2014
    @electromatic2014 2 года назад +1

    I'm out of words, just amazing, thanks for sharing!

  • @Bigmouthstrikes82
    @Bigmouthstrikes82 4 месяца назад

    THANK YOU

  • @hervemerliet
    @hervemerliet Год назад

    RUclips needs more vidéos like this one. Thanks a lot.

  • @mikekohary1075
    @mikekohary1075 2 года назад +1

    Damn, that's genius. I'm gonna practice that right away - thank you!

  • @markjacksonmusic21
    @markjacksonmusic21 Год назад +1

    Amazing man! Thank you for this. So simple!

  • @jazznerd3823
    @jazznerd3823 Год назад +1

    Great lesson, man.

  • @Guitarmfig
    @Guitarmfig 2 года назад +1

    Excellent lesson, thank you

  • @bnpapp
    @bnpapp 2 года назад

    I will be sending a contribution to your site... Enough for a fine meal and a craft beer or wine. Thanks again.. Carve on maestro

  • @stevengrinold3203
    @stevengrinold3203 2 года назад +1

    Awesome Dani! Thanks for this

  • @victoza9232
    @victoza9232 6 месяцев назад

    0:28, 0:32 Stank face is a must to master outside playing. I think that, for those not entirely familiar with outside playing (but who have mastered stank face), it would have been more helpful to have provided a chordal accompaniment to illustrate how particular note choices against certain chords create the outside sound.

  • @zziemka
    @zziemka 8 месяцев назад

    best guitar solo lesson ever seen ;)

  • @kevinmunoz2004
    @kevinmunoz2004 Год назад

    I kind of understand , will definitely be studying music theory to be able to fully understand the concept . Would love to be able to add this to my playing

  • @chrisbrennan9173
    @chrisbrennan9173 3 месяца назад

    this will be added to my repa trau. thank you!

  • @triclone123
    @triclone123 Год назад +1

    So good! Thank you!

  • @MrYevis
    @MrYevis 2 года назад +1

    Thank you Dani this is wonderfull. Love your tips !

  • @JOVO1971
    @JOVO1971 2 года назад +1

    Very cool idea, thank you!

  • @jbowerman50
    @jbowerman50 Год назад +3

    I watched Scott Henderson explain this, and he made it Very complicated. But I get it now , a triad on each note of the dim with a #9 added

  • @jamesfarrington9030
    @jamesfarrington9030 Год назад +1

    You have a very distinct sound coming out of that Strat. Nice phrasing, too.

  • @stevengrinold7631
    @stevengrinold7631 2 года назад +1

    Awesome as always Dani! Thanks!

  • @bnpapp
    @bnpapp 2 года назад +2

    Thanks amigao! Your lesson has created great pivotal point in my playing.... My taste and view for the guitars future is this.. Sco (red shirt Miles) meets ZzTop meets Pat Metheny meets Hendrix. (throw in the Dan too) and Danny you have made me a better Sco and Metheny inspired player thanks to those brilliant lessons of your

  • @gregchambers6100
    @gregchambers6100 Год назад

    That's so freaking cool.

  • @7wheels
    @7wheels 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much. 🎸🎶

  • @superflysoulbrother
    @superflysoulbrother Год назад

    Can't wait to take this to the woodshed!

  • @RonaldoAguiar
    @RonaldoAguiar 2 года назад +1

    Great lesson! Thanks a lot!

  • @ТимурПятигорець
    @ТимурПятигорець Год назад +1

    Cool! Thanks!

  • @miguecast
    @miguecast 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, man!

  • @garthirving1056
    @garthirving1056 Год назад

    Excellent lesson...

  • @stringtheoryx
    @stringtheoryx 2 месяца назад

    Really nice concept and presentation!
    You get a very good 'transparent overdrive' sound that's appropriate for what you're playing.
    Can I ask how you recorded that?

  • @ville_salojarvis_lakewood_exp
    @ville_salojarvis_lakewood_exp 20 дней назад

    You make great and informative videos. However I'd like to point out that it's flat three (b3), not shrap two (#2). A Major triad is 1-3-5 and minor triad is 1-b3-5.
    Your approach combines both types of triads and iyou get 1-b3-3-5 as a result.
    The #2 looks funny on paper and as a concept. I think the word "Triad" sums it up pretty well.😉

  • @guitarleejonshon4025
    @guitarleejonshon4025 2 года назад

    Very thx for the tips!!, I love that Mr Henderson's way. \m/

  • @agent_o_range
    @agent_o_range 2 года назад

    That’s a sweet looking guitar!

  • @dominicdemercurio7933
    @dominicdemercurio7933 Год назад

    Brother THANK YOU!

  • @benjasep66
    @benjasep66 10 месяцев назад

    muy buena explicación, necesitaba ver este video, :), y además muy genial la Marbin, saludos desde Chilee

  • @aurimasgalvelis
    @aurimasgalvelis Год назад

    This is cheat code! AMAZING!

  • @HalJikaKick
    @HalJikaKick 7 дней назад

    This lesson was HYGE! Thank you brother.

  • @danqodusk8140
    @danqodusk8140 Год назад +1

    Pretty cool. I've never heard anyone refer to a flat3/ minor third as a sharp 2nd.

    • @14369164
      @14369164 4 месяца назад

      nor I in this context but valid all the same,great lesson!

  • @PedroSilvaMusic
    @PedroSilvaMusic Год назад

    Great job!!!!

  • @cutronixxx
    @cutronixxx Год назад +2

    ?!?!?!? 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
    You made it so much simpler to approach. This and your gypsy jazz arpeggio lesson. THANK YOU. Thank you for all the other stuff too. Yikes

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  Год назад

      You are welcome. Tell your friends

    • @cutronixxx
      @cutronixxx Год назад

      @@marbinmusicDamn right, I did.

    • @cutronixxx
      @cutronixxx Год назад

      @@marbinmusic Do you give virtual lessons?

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  Год назад

      @@cutronixxx sure email me at danihrabin@gmail.com

  • @felipeeyer4481
    @felipeeyer4481 Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @VintageBassArchive
    @VintageBassArchive Год назад +1

    ive been noodling cuz i forget to bend!!! yikes. now i wont screw up my second note when i try and do gypsy jazz.. thanks to seeing you bend just now EDIT: i play bass only, have you heard Scott Henderson 1995 THE BIG WAVE? live in israel (1440p version on my channel)

  • @praxitelisnikolaou9764
    @praxitelisnikolaou9764 Год назад

    Awsome stuff!

  • @tboyz1
    @tboyz1 6 месяцев назад

    #2 🥰

  • @scallopedshredify
    @scallopedshredify 2 года назад +1

    Too damn good thanks for another great lesson! Love Marbin

  • @Swizzenator
    @Swizzenator Год назад +1

    SICK

  • @leifkeane
    @leifkeane Год назад +1

    I want me some of that!!!

  • @davidsmithweck2412
    @davidsmithweck2412 Год назад +1

    Can I do this with a capo? ha ha just kidding!! This is solid gold!! Thank you for this!

  • @fernandoflores4907
    @fernandoflores4907 3 года назад +1

    Daaaaamn!! 🔥❤️

  • @jaroneaton8023
    @jaroneaton8023 Год назад

    Yes, yes and yes!!

  • @wolfgangcordsen3430
    @wolfgangcordsen3430 3 года назад

    Hey very nice lesson mate!

  • @falschnehmung
    @falschnehmung Год назад

    triple gold ... ! Tnx !!! 5 THUMPS UP !

  • @Local-Bus
    @Local-Bus 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this easy to understand lesson. Question: this concept is for a minor chord thats also the root of the key but not if it's the II chord of a II-V-I for instance?

  • @pablouuuu
    @pablouuuu 3 года назад

    Killer sounds!!!

  • @marcusgandier3913
    @marcusgandier3913 Год назад +1

    nice

  • @NotYourTypicalNegro
    @NotYourTypicalNegro 7 месяцев назад

    Listen to Scofield with Pat Metheny on the album "I Can See Your House From Here".

  • @waynegram8907
    @waynegram8907 2 года назад +2

    Make more Scott Henderson Out of key notes lessons

  • @wantfnjones
    @wantfnjones 7 месяцев назад

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯

  • @sylwestersosniak220
    @sylwestersosniak220 Год назад

    ♥♥♥

  • @paulmurin8398
    @paulmurin8398 6 месяцев назад

    There's no possible way not to make stankface when you play this stuff...it's literally inevitable.

  • @mattf9076
    @mattf9076 3 года назад +33

    I just ran 3 red lights to get home and apply this to my..........keyboard.

    • @FreakyBr0
      @FreakyBr0 3 года назад

      be safe :)

    • @PJohn-gc8xv
      @PJohn-gc8xv Год назад +1

      Police may be watching this.

    • @jimbob6th
      @jimbob6th 11 месяцев назад +1

      Iconic comment

  • @alessandrograsso8570
    @alessandrograsso8570 2 года назад +1

    Another way,i think the First way to consider Is " 12 chromatic approachs by Charlie Banacos for all the family chords/Arpeggios.He plays(like Sco) enclousure arround the root notes and he Is a Great Explorer about different Arpeggios voicing to other kind of chords.This Is usual from Who comes Berklee school,DiIorio school but It Is not new approach....Bill Evans was a Great master!
    Other think Is the altered scale(superlocrian)...This scale had "2 spin",First part like e semi diminished scale and. Second part whole tone scale!
    But anyway he think about chords and not scale,he doesn't play in position....and This is a Great problem about rock Guitar players that want ti start play jazz/fusion.
    Same approachs Is from Frank Gambale

  • @antonioberuff5033
    @antonioberuff5033 Год назад

    Nice

  • @nondeblah
    @nondeblah 9 месяцев назад

    yeah. that's my vocabulary

  • @creator2986
    @creator2986 2 месяца назад

    Fucking incredible

  • @BrianKlobyGuitar
    @BrianKlobyGuitar 2 года назад

    Most awesome

  • @brianj4090
    @brianj4090 3 месяца назад

    This sounds great. So, would you say this is a strategy for dominant chords? Would you do the same for minor since the A dim arpeggio has a flat 3rd?

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  3 месяца назад

      Yes ! You belong on our Patreon! Lots of tabs and examples of this stuff!

  • @emadnejati7620
    @emadnejati7620 Год назад +2

    When I want to play outside I usually go to the nature

  • @ucciosoro2169
    @ucciosoro2169 11 месяцев назад

    Fa# con un #2 (Fa# Sol Sib Do#) i'm wrong or should it be (Fa# La Sib Do#)? Thanks

  • @Cordmichael
    @Cordmichael 2 года назад +1

    How do you associate the sound and the interval?Any practice suggestion to master that? Thank You.

  • @agamhamzah2924
    @agamhamzah2924 2 года назад +1

    Very inspire, is your style not Henderson or Scofield 🤟🔥

  • @LydianLunch
    @LydianLunch Год назад

    Whoa. The secret.

  • @nmmn939
    @nmmn939 6 месяцев назад

    not bad😀

  • @travelerworld4212
    @travelerworld4212 2 года назад

    That sounds obvious now thanks

  • @bnpapp
    @bnpapp 2 года назад +1

    hi Dani,,,,went to your streamlab site to deposit some kale but the Ts & Cs i was uncomfortable with. any alternative you may suggest?

    • @marbinmusic
      @marbinmusic  2 года назад

      yup PayPal.me/marbinmusic or Venmo to danirabin

    • @bnpapp
      @bnpapp 2 года назад

      Transfer just completed...cheers mate

  • @hansmeissner734
    @hansmeissner734 3 года назад

    Another typo: G is not #2 of F# (recte: A)

  • @eiiiotrodger6279
    @eiiiotrodger6279 2 года назад

    Good tips but I'm confused why you say "triad". Shouldn't the A minor pentatonic get a minor triad, and doing what you're saying adding the 3rd for the Blues, instead of the other way around?
    Or I guess it;s the same idea just different way of looking at things. Either way thanks for this good tip I will subscribe so you can get some money.

  • @johnpick8336
    @johnpick8336 2 года назад

    Like Victor Wooten says "You are only a half step from the right note".

  • @azerreza4770
    @azerreza4770 Год назад

    Thanks for this video ! 😀 But the question is not "how" but "why". Why impose on our ears the torture represented by all these "out" notes.😋

    • @Livsie
      @Livsie Год назад

      If played tastefully and come back "home" to inside playing it sounds really cool, refreshing and surprising. The question is how much you stay outside, and that's your decision.