Ahh..l.A Superior Bus! With the "Chicken Pox" floors as we called them in Elementary School. I rode a Ford Superior bus in the early 90s that had a Jackknife door. It was one of my favorites to ride on. If i remember, the warning lights were strobe lights instead of incandescent.
Rode on plenty of older buses when I was a kid -- Blue Birds, Carpenters, Thomas, Waynes, Superiors, and Wards. They either had gas or diesel, Alison AT-145 automatic transmissions or standards, and air brakes. Air brakes scared the hell outta me as a kid -- that was, until I finished my grade-schooling riding the newer model diesel Blue Bird TC-2000s.
1977 was the last year before the 1978 safety laws took affect. The brakes on this bus were not as big as they would have been the next year. They feel like they aren't going to stop you, compared to modern brakes. Yet, back when these were new, it was incredible how much more brake you had than previous years. Brakes get better and better as the years progress.
Older was ALWAYS better. More reliable. This bus has a gasoline engine. They are much quieter than a diesel. Gasoline engines are coming back, strong. Diesels have become so unreliable with their 2010 and newer emissions. International and Caterpillar quit building engines. Cummins is used by every bus manufacturer, today. Freightliner/Thomas/Detroit Diesel/Mercedes are all owned by Daimler. The new Freightliners can have the DD5 in a C2 or a DD8 in the rear engine HDX. DD stands for Daimler Detroit. They dropped the Mercedes name. Everyone thought a Mercedes would cost more for parts. They were just Detroit Diesels... which has been around since World War II. Anyway, the older diesels could be loud. Some were. In 1977, there weren't many diesels available. There were no diesels offered in the Loadstar school bus in 1977. There were inline six cylinder and V8 gasoline engines. In some Loadstar trucks, there were some diesel engines. The DT466 wasn't, yet, available. The little V653 Detroit was available in Loadstar trucks, but I never saw one in a school bus. The Loadstar trucks also came with a little six cylinder Perkins diesel, but I never saw one in a school bus. Today's gasoline engines are very quiet, as well, and many schools are going back to them. Your kids may well ride on a gasoline school bus, someday.
@@bgasales I've heard that Detroit Diesels were really loud engines. But I agree, Gasoline Engines should be coming back as take for a crown bus for example, equipped with a detroit diesel, it's really loud. These engines, were REALLY quiet! I agree, the older ones are much better but break down more.
Superior, Wayne, Ward, Carpenter, Crown, Gillig... names that have almost completely disappeared at the schools. Lion never did get popular, but I liked them. I think they only make electric buses, now. Soon, that is all that anyone will have. Virginia is going all electric.
Old days when there was no seat in front of 2 AMW (what they use in my state for numbering) and the driver would feel absolutely discomforted and the kid would keep kicking the driver in the back, resulting in distracted driving and a crash if possible.
All of these International engines had electronic engine speed governors. This particular bus would go 65. They were all different, depending on rear end gearing and tire size.
I rode one similar to this in high school in the late 60s it was a lodestar and drove a lot of them in the 70s as a substitute bus driver Ford’s internationals Thomases wards and superiors
The old Internationals drove very nice! The Fords barely turned. I rode a Chevy Superior in elementary school, a Ford Superior in junior high, and a Chevy Superior in high school. My school had one Wayne, no Bluebirds, no Wards, and no Carpenters.
This classic Late 70s International Superior school bus is a beauty brings back a lot of memories
This beautiful bus ended up in Europe.
you can see that thing was taken care of with pride
Wow, that bus looks so beautiful.
It is overseas in a museum, now
Very beautifull this classic International Superior
Yes. It was a very nice bus!
I'm amazed at the condition it's in, considering the fact that it's from the late 70's
It was a very nice old bus! It is in Europe, now, in a museum.
@@bgasales *GOOD.!* that's where this beauty belongs.
Ahh..l.A Superior Bus! With the "Chicken Pox" floors as we called them in Elementary School. I rode a Ford Superior bus in the early 90s that had a Jackknife door. It was one of my favorites to ride on. If i remember, the warning lights were strobe lights instead of incandescent.
Superior buses were SUPERIOR.
@@bgasales That they were. I was upset when they had to replace it with a Carpenter after the engine went.
What a classic its look so clean and good why can't buses these day be quite
And I think they were more fun to drive, also. VERY nice buses, especially the Superior bodies.
Automatic school bus, very rare for this time period.
Rode on plenty of older buses when I was a kid -- Blue Birds, Carpenters, Thomas, Waynes, Superiors, and Wards. They either had gas or diesel, Alison AT-145 automatic transmissions or standards, and air brakes. Air brakes scared the hell outta me as a kid -- that was, until I finished my grade-schooling riding the newer model diesel Blue Bird TC-2000s.
1977 was the last year before the 1978 safety laws took affect. The brakes on this bus were not as big as they would have been the next year. They feel like they aren't going to stop you, compared to modern brakes. Yet, back when these were new, it was incredible how much more brake you had than previous years. Brakes get better and better as the years progress.
This bus is an antique
This is a really cool bus I wish you knew I could have that one day maybe I could do something maybe turn into a mobile home or something like that
404 gas engine with the AT 540 - 545 Allison automatic transmission in the international superior school bus
404... yuck. Cast iron crankshaft hates to idle. This had a 345. The 345 and 392 were far better engines than the 404.
I wish you had a 1977 International Ward bus
a classic!
Now that's a running classic! Engine is very quiet, I thought the Older Buses had a louder engine.
Older was ALWAYS better. More reliable. This bus has a gasoline engine. They are much quieter than a diesel. Gasoline engines are coming back, strong. Diesels have become so unreliable with their 2010 and newer emissions. International and Caterpillar quit building engines. Cummins is used by every bus manufacturer, today. Freightliner/Thomas/Detroit Diesel/Mercedes are all owned by Daimler. The new Freightliners can have the DD5 in a C2 or a DD8 in the rear engine HDX. DD stands for Daimler Detroit. They dropped the Mercedes name. Everyone thought a Mercedes would cost more for parts. They were just Detroit Diesels... which has been around since World War II. Anyway, the older diesels could be loud. Some were. In 1977, there weren't many diesels available. There were no diesels offered in the Loadstar school bus in 1977. There were inline six cylinder and V8 gasoline engines. In some Loadstar trucks, there were some diesel engines. The DT466 wasn't, yet, available. The little V653 Detroit was available in Loadstar trucks, but I never saw one in a school bus. The Loadstar trucks also came with a little six cylinder Perkins diesel, but I never saw one in a school bus. Today's gasoline engines are very quiet, as well, and many schools are going back to them. Your kids may well ride on a gasoline school bus, someday.
@@bgasales I've heard that Detroit Diesels were really loud engines. But I agree, Gasoline Engines should be coming back as take for a crown bus for example, equipped with a detroit diesel, it's really loud. These engines, were REALLY quiet! I agree, the older ones are much better but break down more.
Such a good classic I missed seeing them because I was not born in 1977 I was born in January of 2000!
Superior, Wayne, Ward, Carpenter, Crown, Gillig... names that have almost completely disappeared at the schools. Lion never did get popular, but I liked them. I think they only make electric buses, now. Soon, that is all that anyone will have. Virginia is going all electric.
I was born july of 2000
Apollo Vocational School Allen County Ohio. Sold at Cardinal Bus Sales in Lima, Ohio.
Nice Cornbinder!!
VERY well preserved. A museum piece.
That door handle is still being manufactured and used for Bluebirds.
You are right my school district has those handles on all of the 09 bb Visions expect the handicapped bus(it has an electric door).
Quite in pristine condition for a 1977 as well.
Old days when there was no seat in front of 2 AMW (what they use in my state for numbering) and the driver would feel absolutely discomforted and the kid would keep kicking the driver in the back, resulting in distracted driving and a crash if possible.
1972 had padded seats and padded rails, but not modesty panels like newer buses (1977 and newer). 1972 was the only year buses had these padded rails.
What is the price on beauty
0:20 the man almost dropped the camera
Me likey
You got this thing cleaned?
And shipped to Europe... years ago. It is in a museum over there.
Me gusta el autobús
I like it, too.
And what is the bus top out speed wise
All of these International engines had electronic engine speed governors. This particular bus would go 65. They were all different, depending on rear end gearing and tire size.
1:00 why are there bars on the Bus?
What, you never seen and old school bus before? This was the norm back in the day.
Buses manufactured prior to 1977 had them, called stanchions. I remember buses with those.
@@chad5240275 FMVSS 222 took effect on April 1, 1977; this bus was built before that date.
Does This Bus Have Radio
I doubt it. The bus sold years ago and is overseas, today.
I rode one similar to this in high school in the late 60s it was a lodestar and drove a lot of them in the 70s as a substitute bus driver Ford’s internationals Thomases wards and superiors
The old Internationals drove very nice! The Fords barely turned. I rode a Chevy Superior in elementary school, a Ford Superior in junior high, and a Chevy Superior in high school. My school had one Wayne, no Bluebirds, no Wards, and no Carpenters.