Ahaha, I was feeling the same about this video. Also the standard library was made for a different use-case so the side effects need to be wrapped in order to work.
haha nice one, really you can't undermine all the effort he did but damn son its like you go there and you learn your place among the old masters, it either breaks you or makes you want to ascend.
sometimes not knowing that it has already been done is a good thing. you might come up with a different solution to the same problem that is better in some way because you didn't know how it was "supposed" to be done. later the best of both versions can be put together for a better product.
Using plywood and plastics are pretty great in a historical perspective, it's our times commonly used materials so in a few hundred years from now it will reflect those features. Especially the lego parts on the first marble machine, and nyloc nuts and industrial standard screws etc.
Hi Martin, thank you for the tip!! Inspired by your video we visited this museum today (wearing my "I Believe" blue print t-shirt of course). Because of the COVID-19 virus they have very little visitors at the moment. Go check this museum people!! It is worth it.
One of them controls pitch, the other turns the supply valve on and off for the chirp. Not sure there's actually a volume control. But yes, blows one's mind to think about what they did in those days with that technology.
I absolutely love the regular Wintergatan Wednesdays, but the Music Machine Monday series was magical... The possibility/hope of more in the future from a new museum just makes my heart happy!
Martin! Whenever you are in the States again, you should go to the Bayernhof Music Museum in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's full of automated music machines and I think you would LOVE it
For the first time in front of a camera, in English I think I did alright. But I'm sure people will claim I forgot the German word in that moment as well. But I'm sure they are wrong. 😁
BINGO. The European disc box / phono combinations are super rare! I wonder how well they sold. However, in the USA the "Reginaphone" made by the Regina Music Box Co. was pretty popular for home use (why buy a music box AND a phonograph, when you can get both?!) and there are still a surprising number around, probably several dozen (couple hundred?). They ARE rare compared to regular phonographs and regular disc music boxes, however, and definitely desirable for the collector and layperson alike :) The competitor the "Miraphone" made by Mira, is super-rare though. If you find one... congratulations!!!
I'm watching a Swedish guy who lives in France speaking with a German guy in English about strange instruments from the Netherlands. Why do we even still have this outdated concept of countries xD
Who else is extremely happy that wintergatan is finally taking a break, but is so selfishly absorbed in their own wants that they want him to get back to work
I'm honestly excited enough for another museum tour that I'm fine with Martin taking however much time he wants off of the MMX. Lucas seems like he'll be great guide and there are a ton of interesting pieces to cover.
I am so happy that you got to see those machines but also very upset, if I knew that you were here, I would've wanted to meet you. You've been such an influence in my life when it comes to music and project management, such a big influence! I just want to thank you personally one day and I know that I am just a stranger from the internet but if I could meet you once, it would mean the world to me!
Awesome Martin! I was fascinated with all those beautiful machines, and the building itself! I could spend many hours there. So much talent and love has gone into those works of art.
I can't stop smiling watching this! After marathon watching his adventure since Episode 1 building MMX, what I can see in these last few episodes of WW seems like he is really taking a break. And being humurous too 😁
Syafarah Zak I’m predicting he’s building the marble catches, which is the last major component missing... with no “current time” videos since before Christmas, we may see something really amazing in the next few weeks, with the major functional components of the MM completed. Martin would be smart to draw the process out into even more videos, since each monetized video is making thousands.
Martin. Cheers from your friend in the US. You remarked on how similar the MM concept is a lot like the instruments seen here. You almost seem to be envious and even a bit disappointed to learn that you are "reinventing the wheel." My friend. The MM concept is so much more than that. The MM was the prototype or original proof of concept and the MMX is the masterpiece example of how far you have taken automated music orchestra design philosophy. You must remember. Many, if not all of these machines are played by maintaining a mechanical connection from power to programming to music production. There is a phase in your design that is a fluid connection. That connection is in the use of gravity and its influence on marbles. At some point, the whole process is left to the whim of the universe. Also. Music composition is very different now. It encompasses rhythms, melodies, and harmonies, derived from the different cultures of the world finally meeting each other. What you are doing with MMX and the entire MM design concept is reviving something that almost died. You are literally dragging it out of the grave and putting out ahead of the cutting edge of technology and music at the same time. As a car nut, the best metaphor I can think of is to take old steam engine technology and breathe life and relevance back into in a way that exceeds advancements made by Tesla. Imaging someone taking the technology that brought him here and using it to show him where he has yet to go. You, my friend, are doing that with the MMX. You aren't walking in the footsteps of these inventions. You are continuing where they left off....at a moment where they could have been left off forever.....and showing us where they were always destined to ge even before we get there. KEEP GOING MARTIN! Keep creating and playing the soundtrack of the milky way galaxy! I believe!
I will say that player pipe organs (and I don't mean band/fairground/dance/street organs nor orchestrions, but big pipe organs like are normally hand-played by people) are among the most complex automatic instruments ever built, due to having to get so many functions on such a relatively narrow roll (although most player pipe organ rolls are wider than standard piano rolls, and some wider than some orchestrion rolls!). The multiplex functions on something brilliant like the Moller Artiste (made by Moller in Hagerstown, Maryland) are INSANE in that they have 'pilot' holes which will switch over an entire group of holes from playing notes to stop changes, and then back to playing notes, in something like 1/4 of a second, to keep 'uninterrupted' music going while operating a large pipe organ from a roll of more or less 'normal' width. For another example, the Austin pipe organ company in Connecticut decided they weren't going to do it like that (or maybe theirs came first?) and built the most extensive paper-roll scale for any pneumatic instrument, the "Quadruplex" pipe organ roll player of which only a few were ever made, since the roll is over 21" wide, has holes in the tracker bar spaced 12 holes per inch (REALLY narrow; 'normal' spacings include 9 holes per inch, 6 holes per inch, and things like that, for most other instruments), and has something like 240 holes allowing it to play 3 manuals AND pedal AND register/stop changes on a large pipe organ of something like 40 or more ranks... unbelievable. Welte did something different than this, I think, but I don't know much about their pipe organ roll scales. Most of these player pipe organ scales (as well as player piano, reproducing piano, coin piano, orchestrion, band/fairground organ, dance organ, street organ, etc scales) are available in the big book "Treasures of Mechanical Music" by Arthur Reblitz and Q. David Bowers (Vestal Press, 1981), which is THE big tracker-bar-scale book for pneumatic instruments using paper rolls and cardboard books (it also includes some representative disc musical box scales, and cylinder instrument scales, just to get the 'flavor' of what those scales can look like and what notes are included). A great book but long out of print, with many of the scales updated/corrected and republished in Mr. Reblitz's newer book "The Golden Age of Automatic Musical Instruments" (Mechanical Music Press, 2001). There are many technical explanations in this book which explain what things do, if the way the scales are written down seems cryptic.
I think Martin has found his little slice of heaven! :-) Stand by for more "refinements" (feature creep) on the MMX 12:05 That cinema organ is amazing! I can't wait for the detailed look at it. Can you imagine watching a silent movie and having the music and sound effects being created by this magnificent machine? Magic!
In the 1910-1948 period (but mostly from about 1917 to 1927 or so), the theatre pipe organ was VERY popular in the USA, and fairly popular in Europe. I don't know how many were made in Europe, but about 7,000 theatre pipe organs of all makes were produced in the U. S. A. by all makers during this period (as stated in "The Encyclopdeia of the American Theatre Organ" by David L. Junchen, Showcase Publications, 1985). They were a popular and cost-effective way to accompany the silent pictures; after all, one didn't need to hire a live orchestra, if they could instead buy and install a theatre organ (which emulates an orchestra) and get a single live musician to play it. By doing so, despite the initial great expense of the instrument, and cost of regular maintenance, tuning etc., the cost savings saved the theatre managers probably thousands of dollars over the years in musician fees, to the understandable consternation of the musicians' union. Of course, there is no substitute for hearing a silent picture accompanied by a live orchestra, or by a live pianist or organist (or musician at the photoplayer, since they can also be played completely by hand, as well as by roll). I think it is an experience that every interested person should have, at least once in their life. Very organic and musically rewarding if the film and the musician(s) are good. Unfortunately quite a lot of theatre pipe organs were junked after sound movies came in (although not nearly as many theatre pipe organs were junked as the huge numbers of photoplayers that were junked.). Fortunately, in the 1950s-1970s there was something of a large theatre organ revival and many of these instruments were saved, with a result that hundreds still survive. This revival is still continuing on a limited scale today. Groups such as ATOS (the American Theatre Organ Society) and their overseas equivalents, have helped, and are helping, preserve, restore and promote this great musical art form. One can join these groups, or one of the online enthusiast groups (like "Theatre Organ Group" on Facebook), and/or just attend live theatre organ concerts and performances, to hear these amazing instruments in person, and keep the musicians playing and the 'scene' going.
That was like me at the American Treasure Tour museum in Pennsylvania at the 2016 AMICA convention. We had the guided tram tour where they briefly played a few instruments, and then we had, I think, 45 minutes 'on our own' to wander around and ask the docents to play things, etc we wanted to see and hear before we had to get back on the tour bus and leave! So, I had my camera ready to go, and written-out list of pianos I wanted to photograph and record in the 'nickelodeon room' with something like 75 coin pianos and orchestrions, including several very unusual and one-of-a-kind instruments.... First, the docent politely opens up their Standard brand coin piano (the direct ancestor of my National brand coin piano which is missing a few parts) and I spend 10 or 15 minutes crawling all over it taking pictures and drooling (most surviving Standards today were either gutted entirely of all player parts, or converted to a different roll system; this is a totally original one). Then... I was literally running from instrument to instrument, babbling, drooling and taking ton-loads of photos. I only got to like instrument # 8 or something out of the two dozen or so on the 'must see' list (for more than just one or two quick exterior shots), before the call came wafting up the hallway 'time to get back on the bus!!!' and I had to get the hell out of there :( But more time next time, I hope!!! I never even got to see the band organ room except on the tram tour. I probably could be there for 12 or 16 hours straight and not sleep. I guess it's kind of like certain car people who get to a really cool car collection, and can't leave!
Yay! We were in that town on holiday last year! A lovely place, although we didn't have time to check out that museum so we have plans to go back to the area. The Foltermuseum was worth a look, too, and the gelato place on the plaza does a mean Rüdesheim heiße Schokolade!
i think if you ever retire youre machine or want to store it safely while still able to be admired by the public , this museum would be a great place to leave it verry interesting looking museum i'm a nerd for all stuff mecanical and i would love to visit the museum some time in the future
I visited that museum about 20 years ago, and it looks like it has expanded, and has added many more machines since then. I can't wait to see more episodes!!
4:30 That must have been made at Gillblads Orgelfabrik, indeed in Sweden. It's too much of a coincidence to be a Gillblad in a Karlstad in Germany that also makes music machines. (Update: No, it was manufactured for the owner of the organ factory, see discussion below). 13:00 Oh, man, a cinema organ with sound effect section! Cool!
The text on the bottom of the glass says "M. Welte and Sons // Freiburg in Baden" in German, and Freiburg is definitely a City in Baden in Germany. I'm really unsure now. Maybe it was an international collaboration, like the MMX :D
Did a bit of research and the instruments by Welte & Söhne are now mostly in the "Deutsches Musikautomaten-Museum" in Bruchsal. Might be worth a trip as well.
Acc Ount I seem to remember from studies that in them days the spelling was not necessarily like it was today ;) ...but given that there are many documents on the web referring to Gillblad Orgelfabrik in Karlstad, SE... it's a safe guess that the pipes were made in Sweden, indeed.
Samuel Mahler I reckon you are onto something - looks almost like an after-sale mod :) So, the Freiburger team bought the organ from Gillblad and automated it, perhaps? Their own sign does not look as neat as the Swedish one ;)
id imagine all the inventors of those old instruments were basically like martin too, impressive how they managed to do all that without modern technology
when i see things like this i cringe at the thought of all that in one location because of its priceless value. Truly a treasure of mankind . thank you !
This reminds me of my late friend, and my father's friend, Arnold Hübsch. He had a rather small workshop in Hamburg Altona, where he made decorative items from sheet brass for handicraft shops in Hamburg, such as warmer or candlesticks, and also repaired all kinds of mechanical musical instruments, ranging from small music boxes, organ boxes to orchestrions with any From musical instruments to large fairground and street organs, but also all conceivable forms from Edison phonographs with funnels and pipes for orchestral recordings to funnel gramophones for large dance halls with a mechanical amplifier that works according to the spill principle. Every time I visited I left his workshop almost deaf ...
My neighbor genuinely has a player banjo that he salvaged from an old organ, I believe it was built in the 20s for a restaurant in Tennessee. The picking mechanism is a spinning cylinder with a guitar pick embedded into it, and the fretting mechanism is very similar to the one shown (albeit pared down a bit.) If you ever visit America, I'm sure he'd be delighted to show it off.
I'm curious what this is. There were quite a number of Encore Banjos made in the 1896-1906 or so period in the USA, which just played a 4-string banjo, no other instruments. The Encore was popular and we think over 1,000 were made. Only something like 3 dozen originals, and many replicas, remain. In 1914, James O'Connor of the Connorized Music Co (a very big and successful piano roll company), bought/leased(???) the rights to the old, obsolete(?) Encore from Mr. Kendall and produced two protoypes of his new 'Banjo-Orchestra' which combined the Encore mechanism with a keyboardless piano, and drums and traps, playing a new spooled roll scale instead of the old endless roll scale. Neither of the protoypes are believed to exist (that would be awesome if they did), but at least we have the old ads / flyers for them with photos. Finally, Mr. O'Connor(?) and/or Mr. Kendall(?) entered into some kind of arrangement with the Engelhardt Piano Co. of St. Johnsville NY, newly risen in 1917 from the ashes of the bankrupt Engelhardt-Seybold firm (d. 1915), once a mighty USA coin-piano maker. So, in 1917, Englehardt brought out THEIR BanjOrchestra, using probably yet another roll scale(???), and using their coin piano technology to put the BanjOrchestra into commercial production. Reportedly, only about a dozen of them were ever built and sold, and only two are known to exist today, both incomplete when found (one is very incomplete and plays in modified disguise as an "Engelhardt F" with two ranks of pipes replacing the banjo, non-original traps, and playing "M" rolls rather than BanjOrchestra rolls, at Musee Mecanique in San Francisco). So, the original BanjOrchestra was not a success, but in the 1980s, Dave Ramey of Illinois started making Encore Banjo replicas, and then in 1994 he came out with his own reproduction / re-imagined "Banjo-Orchestra" based upon both the original one, plus ideas from other vintage orchestrions, and all very well-made. So far, I think the D. C. Ramey Co. has made something like 40 or 50 of these reproduction, and are still building them today. That is what is in this video, is a Ramey reproduction. In addition to this, in the past 20 years, Ken Caulkins and his staff at Ragtime Automated Music in Ceres, CA have built many automated banjo and guitar machines (and also playing the bass guitar, electric guitar, ukulele etc) with a fretting mechanism based upon the old Encore, plus a different style of 'ratchet wheel' picking mechanism that they patented, which operates differently than the old Encore pickers. What you have described sounds like a RAM picker action with the ratchet wheel with picks on it, mounted in a 'gantry' over the strings. I think they've been building those instruments since at least 2000 - 2005 or so. Most of them are MIDI operated but they've also devised special proprietary banjo and guitar paper-roll scales for the standalone banjo or guitar instruments. The Ragtime quality and method of construction is not the same as Ramey. Ramey are mostly handmade instruments using lots of wood, metal, etc for the action like the original automatic instruments, and RAM by contrast are generally machine-made using injection-molded plastic, with some metal here and there and nice wooden cabinets. However, these Ragtime instruments have been commercially successful in part due to MIDI touchscreen operation, and clever musical arrangements. If your neighbor has pictures of the 'organ' from which he salvaged the mechanism, I'd REALLY REALLY like to see them :)
@@andrewbarrett1537 Got some more info for ya. He says it's an unknown maker, but it was made as an add-on to a Conn theatre organ for the Timbers restaurant in Plattesville, WI.
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 Thanks for this info! Re-reading your first comment, after getting the info about the Conn theatre organ, it kind of falls into place. I would bet (NOT know for sure... without seeing photos) that your neighbor's player banjo was possibly built in the 1970s and was possibly either the prototype, or one of the very few built, of an Encore-style 'player banjo' put on the market in the early 1970s by G. W. MacKinnon, a mechanical music dealer who had stores in North Carolina and in Southern California. He had some folks helping him design a piano player system using an early computer and tape, around that period, which he marketed under the "Amico" trademark, I *think* (need to pull out my G. W. MacKinnon catalogs, where this is advertised, to confirm the brand name). I have never seen one of these systems, although the slightly later Marantz Pianocorder cassette-player digital tape / solenoid piano player system did sell very well, into the thousands I think. I am not sure that slightly later system is related to the earlier one, or not. In these ads, MacKinnon advertises a digital tape-controlled (I think cassette tape or reel-to-reel, with digital programming?) player banjo, in a new 1970s cabinet styled like the Encore but with goofy proportions, which has four spinning(?) pickers mounted on small can motors(? I might be mis-remembering, and it might actually have four small picker 'arms' connected to solenoid plungers). Of course there were also fretters to fret the strings. I never found out if any of these electrically-played, electronically-controlled banjos were ever commercially sold, or if only the one prototype shown in the photos was built, to try to interest people in it. I also don't know who designed or built these, but my friend Dana Johnson used to work for MacKinnon in the 1970s at the California location, so I could ask him... he might know something about it and may have even known the designer/builders. Conn, to my knowledge, never built a single pipe organ... they came out with their organs in the early 1960s(??? late 1950s???) and every single one I've seen is an analog electronic organ. They built church-type electronic organs, but their most popular instruments were theatre-style electronic organs for home, theatre, and commercial use. They were very popular, and back in the day, were considered to have a very good and very warm and musical sound for an electronic organ. I think Conn was bought out by Kimball sometime in the 1970s(?) and the quality of their organs, and design, changed. I don't know when they stopped building electronic organs but it probably wasn't any later than the early 1990s.
@@andrewbarrett1537 Some additional info, off the top of my head based around what I've seen of the thing - It's actually two banjos mounted side-by-side, and it is pneumatically controlled (From what I gathered it had some electric parts, but the fretting mechanism was pneumatic.) It doesn't have any brand markings anywhere on it, not even on the banjo heads (all my personal banjos have a logo somewhere on the drum head,) though those appear to have been replaced at some point. My only interaction with it has been while I was helping him carry some ~10 foot lead bass pipes down to his basement, so I didn't get much of a chance to look at the internals in detail. Definitely completely handmade, though, and quite old. Had about a quarter inch of dust on it.
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 I would very much like to see photos of this and/or get in touch with the owner for historical research purposes, if possible. This is probably an instrument of which the mechanical music community is totally unaware AND might not be in any of the standard reference works like Q. David Bowers' "Encyclopedia of Automatic Musical Instruments" published in 1972. In which case... they have something that is SUPER awesome (and there are many awesome instruments in THAT book not believed to exist today... we only have an old photo or image). Please contact me via my Facebook which is Andrew E. Barrett (in California). Thanks a lot! And/or they can get in touch via my FB Music page which is andrewebarrettmusic
I like how you guys kidded around with each other..and what a great place..i can't wait to go see it myself some day. indeed on the shoulders of giants! So glad someone is loving and preserving these phenomenal instruments.
@@russelldofrane6614 I had always assumed it would be: MM Mach 3. He's so close to finishing the MMX I don't think he would totally abandon what he has done. I am suspecting significant changes.
Wow! I wish I was there with you. That Museum looks fantastic. Wish you could have made a longer video of the place. Martin, thank you so much for sharing this video.
I support martin doing a video just deconstructing a music box and explaining how it works. I love your videos showing how your instruments work, one of my favourites
Wow, wow wow, wow. What an incredible collection of beautiful machines! Also, Lucas is SAVAGE, hahaha; the dialogue between him and Martin was wonderful.
Music is the one thing that makes us human. We have always found a way to do it. We will always find a way to keep it going. Magical and wonderful to see how much work people put into their work!
Wow, so this is a new museum? Very cool to see! ;) Aaand it's also good to see that there IS another Cinema Organ besides the Wurlitzer in Berlin! Very excited for the videos! ;)
Well we are 50 Years old. So not exactly new. But that whole "Internet" thing is difficult to explain why it needs to be prioritized, sooo there is that.
@@Musikkabinett Achso, jetzt kenne ich mich aus! Herzlichen Dank für die Information! ;) Das mit der Kinoorgel ist relativ spannend, gibt ja nicht sonderlich viele im deutschsprachigen Raum.. ^^
If you haven't done it yet, you should go to visit two museums in Switzerland : in L'Auberson, the museum of music machines, and in Ste Croix, the CIMA museum, made by Reuge.
@@Musikkabinett When you guys do the Maesto video, please make parts of the video with the front on and the front off, so we can hear to best effect, how much the main swell shutters in the roof modulate the sound of the pipes. Of course the clarinet has its own swells :) I think this realism is a HUGE part of the amazing sound of that instrument. As you well know, with the front off allows the viewer to see it all working, but then the other 3 ranks of pipes just 'blast away' at full volume :) Thank you!
If you live in the USA or in the UK, there are many good mechanical music museums you can visit! In the USA for example, there are: the Morris Museum in Morristown, NJ; DeBence Antique Music World in Franklin, PA; Stahl's Automotive Foundation (a great car museum with fantastic mechanical music) in Chesterfield, Michigan; Olden Year Musical Museum in Duncanville, TX; Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix, AZ; The Nethercutt Museum / San Sylmar in Sylmar, California, Musee Mecanique in San Francisco, California, (which is a real play-it-yourself turn-of-the-century arcade) etc. etc. In the UK there is the Musical Museum in Brentford, Sussex, for starters, plus the Amersham Fair Organ Museum in Amersham, and many others.
That is one impressive house/manor/building, too. I wouldn't mind an architectural tour just looking at the room designs and explanations of what each room was originally.
10:33 - Ohhhh that stab and burn there... The MMX will have self-combusted over that! But looking all that musical engineering there you have to wonder how people appreciated it and whether they were scared of things or were enchanted by it.
When you're almost done coding, and then you discover a standard library that implements all functions you wrote...
..and its several hundred years old
Ooof...that one hurts even thinking about it.
Ahaha, I was feeling the same about this video. Also the standard library was made for a different use-case so the side effects need to be wrapped in order to work.
haha nice one, really you can't undermine all the effort he did but damn son its like you go there and you learn your place among the old masters, it either breaks you or makes you want to ascend.
sometimes not knowing that it has already been done is a good thing. you might come up with a different solution to the same problem that is better in some way because you didn't know how it was "supposed" to be done. later the best of both versions can be put together for a better product.
*Delivers a burn about plywood in the Marble Machines*
*2 seconds later* "Oh, cardboard tubes, huh?"
my exact thoughts lol
100%
Using plywood and plastics are pretty great in a historical perspective, it's our times commonly used materials so in a few hundred years from now it will reflect those features. Especially the lego parts on the first marble machine, and nyloc nuts and industrial standard screws etc.
:D
Tbh plywood is a very good material, and high quality birch plywood would have been used by any woodworker of the past had it been available then.
Hi Martin, thank you for the tip!! Inspired by your video we visited this museum today (wearing my "I Believe" blue print t-shirt of course). Because of the COVID-19 virus they have very little visitors at the moment. Go check this museum people!! It is worth it.
Those bird boxes blew my mind. The fact that someone was able to replicate that with TWO wheels controlling pitch and volume is crazy.
And that was made in late early -1700, its hard to make even today.
One of them controls pitch, the other turns the supply valve on and off for the chirp. Not sure there's actually a volume control. But yes, blows one's mind to think about what they did in those days with that technology.
Here we see Martin giving the museum guide a tour of his museum
This comment made my day.
Haha, yes!
Right lol
Here we see Cpt. Pandy giving his fellow youtube commentators a tour of Martin giving the museum guide a tour of their museum. ;)
so true!
13:50
“We’ll even be allowed to go downstairs.”
“Ooh-hoo-oOoHoOHoOo 🦉!”
One of the best noises ever made by a human.
hannes is a gift
I absolutely love the regular Wintergatan Wednesdays, but the Music Machine Monday series was magical... The possibility/hope of more in the future from a new museum just makes my heart happy!
Ah, the birdsong is just magical. Can you imagine waking up to that as an alarm clock? Would be a wonderful way to start the day.
im fascinated by them!! i really want to buy one!!! :)
Its called a "Singvogeldose" and was made/invented by Karl Griesbaum :)
@@HerrWilhelm403 thanks! I am considering getting my mum one as a gift if i can get one with a Robin! :)
I think they were my favourite. Waking up to their chirping would be like going back to nature and waking up with the day.
Download some birdsongs, and set it as your alarm on your phone. Nobody's stopping you from having a wonderful day :)
Martin! Whenever you are in the States again, you should go to the Bayernhof Music Museum in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. It's full of automated music machines and I think you would LOVE it
14:56 "Wow Martin plays really well!.. Wait a minute.."
Inspiration. Uh oh. Next week: Martin completely redesigns the MMX from the ground up.
Those banjos were impressive. And the noting mechanisms brilliantly refined.
*Pain is temporary. Glory is forever.*
Pain is temporary
GLORY FOREVER
DON'T BE PLAYIN LIKE THAT!
These antique instruments make Martin's machine look simple . Amazing mechanical engineering before electricity. And they can still play beautifully.
"We will open in March!"... Oh the sweet innocence of ignorance.
"I don't know the English for [medieval term]"
Mate - say it in german. That's probably correct.
unless it's banjo. don't say that in german
@@natalieisagirlnow German word for "Banjo" is just "Banjo".
For the first time in front of a camera, in English I think I did alright. But I'm sure people will claim I forgot the German word in that moment as well. But I'm sure they are wrong. 😁
@@maesto you did great. Perhaps a little too much teasing. I guess we will see in another episode 😅
@@maesto You did well, and I'm excited to see your collection more in-depth :)
The Entertainer on a self playing banjo just gave me chills down my back!
The Polyphone: The DVD/VHS combo player of the early 1900's.
Techmoan should do a review!
BINGO. The European disc box / phono combinations are super rare! I wonder how well they sold. However, in the USA the "Reginaphone" made by the Regina Music Box Co. was pretty popular for home use (why buy a music box AND a phonograph, when you can get both?!) and there are still a surprising number around, probably several dozen (couple hundred?). They ARE rare compared to regular phonographs and regular disc music boxes, however, and definitely desirable for the collector and layperson alike :) The competitor the "Miraphone" made by Mira, is super-rare though. If you find one... congratulations!!!
It is Wusic Wachine Wednesday my dudes...
Mait, math?
Apparently, it is my fellow friend!
I really tried to beat you but you're fast.. I'm pretty sure you're living in Martin's non-existing basement by now.
Heyy, the dedicated Wednesday announcer!!!!
*wunholy wreech*
"is this only wine or does it actually play?"
"that's just wine"
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Well if you drink enough you might hear someone singing ;)
Would a glass of wine help? But I also could add a small music box to it. That would be funny.
egg “That’s just wine... Vending Machine..”
Actually, that would be kind of interesting to blow across the glass bottles with different levels of wine in them...
@@joebrodie Now you are talking mmx scope wise. But I can add a tiny musicbox. :)
13:46 This is like watching kids in a candy shop lol. it brings me so much joy
“Just a little less plywood.”
“Ouch.”
lol
Yeah but what the MMX lacks in fine carved wood it makes up for METAL.
@@petervitale4431 Depending on the Instrument :D
I get the same thing about my wooden DDR pads. I'm like Hey, it's cabinet grade birch!
@@calvinthedestroyer Well, does it hold up? Yes? Then who cares? It's not like you claim it to be better.
@@Musikkabinett Huh? laminated plywood is better, a hard wood will crack on a machine like that.
I'm watching a Swedish guy who lives in France speaking with a German guy in English about strange instruments from the Netherlands.
Why do we even still have this outdated concept of countries xD
They're so we can have the Eurovision Song Contest.
@@hjalfi oh, god. Can we stop?
@@helvettefaensatan The music Never stops....
This! I thought exactly that after filming.
How is the concept of countries outdated?
I’ve been loving these non-marble machine videos where Martin seems to just be having a lot of fun.
he should drop the whole MMX project and just keep doing videos like this!
11:45 "Oh look at this music box that looks like a heater!"
"Well, that actually is a heater..."
LOL, you can carry me away now :-D
Who else is extremely happy that wintergatan is finally taking a break, but is so selfishly absorbed in their own wants that they want him to get back to work
As far as I know Wintergatan is the name of the group he is in.
I'm honestly excited enough for another museum tour that I'm fine with Martin taking however much time he wants off of the MMX. Lucas seems like he'll be great guide and there are a ton of interesting pieces to cover.
Videos like this are nice and all but I'm seriously getting withdrawls rn
Exactly my thoughts. Amazing cabinet though. I'm looking forward to enjoy consumint the new series and maybe visit Rüdesheim in spring.
Totally agree with the break part, but I'm here for the marble machine to be honest. So I'm still sad if it would overlap the Wintergatan Wednesday
If he says "This is for another time" one more time, a crack in space time continuüm is going to open and swallow us all...
I had to, sorry. Somehow we needed to contain Martins need to know everything.
Martin always carries an emergency containment device for exactly this reason. He may or may not know it exists.
I am so happy that you got to see those machines but also very upset, if I knew that you were here, I would've wanted to meet you. You've been such an influence in my life when it comes to music and project management, such a big influence! I just want to thank you personally one day and I know that I am just a stranger from the internet but if I could meet you once, it would mean the world to me!
He's going back to make the episodes, unless he's done it already of course, but anyway, there will be a tour :)
Martin defending his "high quality birch plywood" is my mood for 2020
Went there with school a year back, they were actually really nice and it's a cool museum
We are always happy to hear people enjoyed their stay.
Awesome Martin! I was fascinated with all those beautiful machines, and the building itself! I could spend many hours there. So much talent and love has gone into those works of art.
I love how every time Martin seemed really interested in something Lucas was like "Yeah, whatever. There's a bigger one upstairs."
I can't stop smiling watching this! After marathon watching his adventure since Episode 1 building MMX, what I can see in these last few episodes of WW seems like he is really taking a break. And being humurous too 😁
Syafarah Zak I’m predicting he’s building the marble catches, which is the last major component missing... with no “current time” videos since before Christmas, we may see something really amazing in the next few weeks, with the major functional components of the MM completed. Martin would be smart to draw the process out into even more videos, since each monetized video is making thousands.
And yea, I am always smiling during and for an hour after every weeks video. 😁 So glad I found them a year ago and got caught up!
a monument to the selfless hard work some have done ,to please and comfort the many. so beautiful.
Martin. Cheers from your friend in the US. You remarked on how similar the MM concept is a lot like the instruments seen here. You almost seem to be envious and even a bit disappointed to learn that you are "reinventing the wheel." My friend. The MM concept is so much more than that. The MM was the prototype or original proof of concept and the MMX is the masterpiece example of how far you have taken automated music orchestra design philosophy. You must remember. Many, if not all of these machines are played by maintaining a mechanical connection from power to programming to music production. There is a phase in your design that is a fluid connection. That connection is in the use of gravity and its influence on marbles. At some point, the whole process is left to the whim of the universe. Also. Music composition is very different now. It encompasses rhythms, melodies, and harmonies, derived from the different cultures of the world finally meeting each other. What you are doing with MMX and the entire MM design concept is reviving something that almost died. You are literally dragging it out of the grave and putting out ahead of the cutting edge of technology and music at the same time. As a car nut, the best metaphor I can think of is to take old steam engine technology and breathe life and relevance back into in a way that exceeds advancements made by Tesla. Imaging someone taking the technology that brought him here and using it to show him where he has yet to go. You, my friend, are doing that with the MMX. You aren't walking in the footsteps of these inventions. You are continuing where they left off....at a moment where they could have been left off forever.....and showing us where they were always destined to ge even before we get there. KEEP GOING MARTIN! Keep creating and playing the soundtrack of the milky way galaxy! I believe!
13:37
"Wait! Wait... so... this programming, plays this?"
"yes."
"..... HOW?."
astonished martin
That is an answer for another time....
Electromechanical I guess.
BIG bundle of wires between the two.
I will say that player pipe organs (and I don't mean band/fairground/dance/street organs nor orchestrions, but big pipe organs like are normally hand-played by people) are among the most complex automatic instruments ever built, due to having to get so many functions on such a relatively narrow roll (although most player pipe organ rolls are wider than standard piano rolls, and some wider than some orchestrion rolls!). The multiplex functions on something brilliant like the Moller Artiste (made by Moller in Hagerstown, Maryland) are INSANE in that they have 'pilot' holes which will switch over an entire group of holes from playing notes to stop changes, and then back to playing notes, in something like 1/4 of a second, to keep 'uninterrupted' music going while operating a large pipe organ from a roll of more or less 'normal' width.
For another example, the Austin pipe organ company in Connecticut decided they weren't going to do it like that (or maybe theirs came first?) and built the most extensive paper-roll scale for any pneumatic instrument, the "Quadruplex" pipe organ roll player of which only a few were ever made, since the roll is over 21" wide, has holes in the tracker bar spaced 12 holes per inch (REALLY narrow; 'normal' spacings include 9 holes per inch, 6 holes per inch, and things like that, for most other instruments), and has something like 240 holes allowing it to play 3 manuals AND pedal AND register/stop changes on a large pipe organ of something like 40 or more ranks... unbelievable. Welte did something different than this, I think, but I don't know much about their pipe organ roll scales.
Most of these player pipe organ scales (as well as player piano, reproducing piano, coin piano, orchestrion, band/fairground organ, dance organ, street organ, etc scales) are available in the big book "Treasures of Mechanical Music" by Arthur Reblitz and Q. David Bowers (Vestal Press, 1981), which is THE big tracker-bar-scale book for pneumatic instruments using paper rolls and cardboard books (it also includes some representative disc musical box scales, and cylinder instrument scales, just to get the 'flavor' of what those scales can look like and what notes are included). A great book but long out of print, with many of the scales updated/corrected and republished in Mr. Reblitz's newer book "The Golden Age of Automatic Musical Instruments" (Mechanical Music Press, 2001). There are many technical explanations in this book which explain what things do, if the way the scales are written down seems cryptic.
@@MostlyPennyCat between the three, actually. There's a box downstairs that controls everything.
@@andrewbarrett1537 "The Golden Age of Automatic Musical Instruments" is basically a must have.
"Its supposedly the best sounding instrument ever" *doesnt play it*
not the "best instrument" but the one, which sounds the most like a song played by actual people.
It's called a "teaser". You will have to come back for Episode IV. :-)
@@lwilton I also have A New Hope.
Das is a thing for a later time
@Zero Cool name checks out
I would LOVE a Music Machine Mondays Season 2! Love your work, Martin - as always!
13:47 I think I just heard Hannes get excited. That was fun. :)
I think Martin has found his little slice of heaven! :-)
Stand by for more "refinements" (feature creep) on the MMX
12:05 That cinema organ is amazing! I can't wait for the detailed look at it.
Can you imagine watching a silent movie and having the music and sound effects being created by this magnificent machine? Magic!
I can :D
In the 1910-1948 period (but mostly from about 1917 to 1927 or so), the theatre pipe organ was VERY popular in the USA, and fairly popular in Europe.
I don't know how many were made in Europe, but about 7,000 theatre pipe organs of all makes were produced in the U. S. A. by all makers during this period (as stated in "The Encyclopdeia of the American Theatre Organ" by David L. Junchen, Showcase Publications, 1985).
They were a popular and cost-effective way to accompany the silent pictures; after all, one didn't need to hire a live orchestra, if they could instead buy and install a theatre organ (which emulates an orchestra) and get a single live musician to play it.
By doing so, despite the initial great expense of the instrument, and cost of regular maintenance, tuning etc., the cost savings saved the theatre managers probably thousands of dollars over the years in musician fees, to the understandable consternation of the musicians' union.
Of course, there is no substitute for hearing a silent picture accompanied by a live orchestra, or by a live pianist or organist (or musician at the photoplayer, since they can also be played completely by hand, as well as by roll).
I think it is an experience that every interested person should have, at least once in their life. Very organic and musically rewarding if the film and the musician(s) are good.
Unfortunately quite a lot of theatre pipe organs were junked after sound movies came in (although not nearly as many theatre pipe organs were junked as the huge numbers of photoplayers that were junked.). Fortunately, in the 1950s-1970s there was something of a large theatre organ revival and many of these instruments were saved, with a result that hundreds still survive. This revival is still continuing on a limited scale today.
Groups such as ATOS (the American Theatre Organ Society) and their overseas equivalents, have helped, and are helping, preserve, restore and promote this great musical art form.
One can join these groups, or one of the online enthusiast groups (like "Theatre Organ Group" on Facebook), and/or just attend live theatre organ concerts and performances, to hear these amazing instruments in person, and keep the musicians playing and the 'scene' going.
„We lost him.”
That was quite easy to predict.
And it was like the 10th time too!
That was like me at the American Treasure Tour museum in Pennsylvania at the 2016 AMICA convention. We had the guided tram tour where they briefly played a few instruments, and then we had, I think, 45 minutes 'on our own' to wander around and ask the docents to play things, etc we wanted to see and hear before we had to get back on the tour bus and leave!
So, I had my camera ready to go, and written-out list of pianos I wanted to photograph and record in the 'nickelodeon room' with something like 75 coin pianos and orchestrions, including several very unusual and one-of-a-kind instruments....
First, the docent politely opens up their Standard brand coin piano (the direct ancestor of my National brand coin piano which is missing a few parts) and I spend 10 or 15 minutes crawling all over it taking pictures and drooling (most surviving Standards today were either gutted entirely of all player parts, or converted to a different roll system; this is a totally original one).
Then... I was literally running from instrument to instrument, babbling, drooling and taking ton-loads of photos. I only got to like instrument # 8 or something out of the two dozen or so on the 'must see' list (for more than just one or two quick exterior shots), before the call came wafting up the hallway 'time to get back on the bus!!!' and I had to get the hell out of there :(
But more time next time, I hope!!!
I never even got to see the band organ room except on the tram tour. I probably could be there for 12 or 16 hours straight and not sleep. I guess it's kind of like certain car people who get to a really cool car collection, and can't leave!
Yay! We were in that town on holiday last year! A lovely place, although we didn't have time to check out that museum so we have plans to go back to the area. The Foltermuseum was worth a look, too, and the gelato place on the plaza does a mean Rüdesheim heiße Schokolade!
Wow what a good collaboration. Perfect fit and the perfect win win situation.
i think if you ever retire youre machine or want to store it safely while still able to be admired by the public , this museum would be a great place to leave it
verry interesting looking museum i'm a nerd for all stuff mecanical and i would love to visit the museum some time in the future
What a wonderful place ! Thank you for sharing with us.
Oh thank you for this wonderful tour!!! medieval stuff drive me crazy and museums for me are like amusement parks for kids! thank you!
0:00 Hmm... was that finger pointing a Lord Vinheteiro reference? 😄
I thought the same thing...
Could be the man who has a tape player up his nose, too. RIP Terry.
Ahhhaha yes
Kkkkk
I visited that museum about 20 years ago, and it looks like it has expanded, and has added many more machines since then. I can't wait to see more episodes!!
can't... stop... collecting...
"Here's the instrument with the nicest sound"
*proceeds not to play it*
Well you should know. It's for another time. :P
@Michael Deloatch well maybe since we have the microphones out anyways we could record some flacs . But even then it will stay better in person :)
@@Musikkabinett that would be great
PLEASE, make as many videos about this place as you can!!! It is such a treasure.
4:30 That must have been made at Gillblads Orgelfabrik, indeed in Sweden. It's too much of a coincidence to be a Gillblad in a Karlstad in Germany that also makes music machines. (Update: No, it was manufactured for the owner of the organ factory, see discussion below).
13:00 Oh, man, a cinema organ with sound effect section! Cool!
There isn't even a Karlstad in Germany, that would be Karlstadt.
The text on the bottom of the glass says "M. Welte and Sons // Freiburg in Baden" in German, and Freiburg is definitely a City in Baden in Germany. I'm really unsure now. Maybe it was an international collaboration, like the MMX :D
Did a bit of research and the instruments by Welte & Söhne are now mostly in the "Deutsches Musikautomaten-Museum" in Bruchsal. Might be worth a trip as well.
Acc Ount I seem to remember from studies that in them days the spelling was not necessarily like it was today ;)
...but given that there are many documents on the web referring to Gillblad Orgelfabrik in Karlstad, SE... it's a safe guess that the pipes were made in Sweden, indeed.
Samuel Mahler I reckon you are onto something - looks almost like an after-sale mod :) So, the Freiburger team bought the organ from Gillblad and automated it, perhaps? Their own sign does not look as neat as the Swedish one ;)
id imagine all the inventors of those old instruments were basically like martin too, impressive how they managed to do all that without modern technology
when i see things like this i cringe at the thought of all that in one location because of its priceless value. Truly a treasure of mankind . thank you !
😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
Wonderful magic.
Even Liebestraum on that player piano.
I have heard that melody in SO many movies and videos, in my life.
Thanks.
I hope that place has excellent fire safety codes and fire suppressing systems!
SweWacker It’s in Germany ;-)
That cinema organ was amazing, can’t wait to see how it works
"What's this? Oh, merely a stone cave filled with crank barrel organs."
We have to put them somewhere! 😁
Wow! I can’t get over the craftsmanship in those rooms, it is mind blowing.👍👍
All of these machines are legends...!!
I'll make sure to tell them.
So happy for music machine Monday!
"And this is the room of violence"
Me: what!? Oh violin's
This reminds me of my late friend, and my father's friend, Arnold Hübsch. He had a rather small workshop in Hamburg Altona, where he made decorative items from sheet brass for handicraft shops in Hamburg, such as warmer or candlesticks, and also repaired all kinds of mechanical musical instruments, ranging from small music boxes, organ boxes to orchestrions with any From musical instruments to large fairground and street organs, but also all conceivable forms from Edison phonographs with funnels and pipes for orchestral recordings to funnel gramophones for large dance halls with a mechanical amplifier that works according to the spill principle.
Every time I visited I left his workshop almost deaf ...
My neighbor genuinely has a player banjo that he salvaged from an old organ, I believe it was built in the 20s for a restaurant in Tennessee. The picking mechanism is a spinning cylinder with a guitar pick embedded into it, and the fretting mechanism is very similar to the one shown (albeit pared down a bit.) If you ever visit America, I'm sure he'd be delighted to show it off.
I'm curious what this is. There were quite a number of Encore Banjos made in the 1896-1906 or so period in the USA, which just played a 4-string banjo, no other instruments. The Encore was popular and we think over 1,000 were made. Only something like 3 dozen originals, and many replicas, remain.
In 1914, James O'Connor of the Connorized Music Co (a very big and successful piano roll company), bought/leased(???) the rights to the old, obsolete(?) Encore from Mr. Kendall and produced two protoypes of his new 'Banjo-Orchestra' which combined the Encore mechanism with a keyboardless piano, and drums and traps, playing a new spooled roll scale instead of the old endless roll scale. Neither of the protoypes are believed to exist (that would be awesome if they did), but at least we have the old ads / flyers for them with photos.
Finally, Mr. O'Connor(?) and/or Mr. Kendall(?) entered into some kind of arrangement with the Engelhardt Piano Co. of St. Johnsville NY, newly risen in 1917 from the ashes of the bankrupt Engelhardt-Seybold firm (d. 1915), once a mighty USA coin-piano maker. So, in 1917, Englehardt brought out THEIR BanjOrchestra, using probably yet another roll scale(???), and using their coin piano technology to put the BanjOrchestra into commercial production. Reportedly, only about a dozen of them were ever built and sold, and only two are known to exist today, both incomplete when found (one is very incomplete and plays in modified disguise as an "Engelhardt F" with two ranks of pipes replacing the banjo, non-original traps, and playing "M" rolls rather than BanjOrchestra rolls, at Musee Mecanique in San Francisco).
So, the original BanjOrchestra was not a success, but in the 1980s, Dave Ramey of Illinois started making Encore Banjo replicas, and then in 1994 he came out with his own reproduction / re-imagined "Banjo-Orchestra" based upon both the original one, plus ideas from other vintage orchestrions, and all very well-made.
So far, I think the D. C. Ramey Co. has made something like 40 or 50 of these reproduction, and are still building them today. That is what is in this video, is a Ramey reproduction.
In addition to this, in the past 20 years, Ken Caulkins and his staff at Ragtime Automated Music in Ceres, CA have built many automated banjo and guitar machines (and also playing the bass guitar, electric guitar, ukulele etc) with a fretting mechanism based upon the old Encore, plus a different style of 'ratchet wheel' picking mechanism that they patented, which operates differently than the old Encore pickers. What you have described sounds like a RAM picker action with the ratchet wheel with picks on it, mounted in a 'gantry' over the strings. I think they've been building those instruments since at least 2000 - 2005 or so. Most of them are MIDI operated but they've also devised special proprietary banjo and guitar paper-roll scales for the standalone banjo or guitar instruments. The Ragtime quality and method of construction is not the same as Ramey. Ramey are mostly handmade instruments using lots of wood, metal, etc for the action like the original automatic instruments, and RAM by contrast are generally machine-made using injection-molded plastic, with some metal here and there and nice wooden cabinets. However, these Ragtime instruments have been commercially successful in part due to MIDI touchscreen operation, and clever musical arrangements.
If your neighbor has pictures of the 'organ' from which he salvaged the mechanism, I'd REALLY REALLY like to see them :)
@@andrewbarrett1537 Got some more info for ya. He says it's an unknown maker, but it was made as an add-on to a Conn theatre organ for the Timbers restaurant in Plattesville, WI.
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 Thanks for this info! Re-reading your first comment, after getting the info about the Conn theatre organ, it kind of falls into place. I would bet (NOT know for sure... without seeing photos) that your neighbor's player banjo was possibly built in the 1970s and was possibly either the prototype, or one of the very few built, of an Encore-style 'player banjo' put on the market in the early 1970s by G. W. MacKinnon, a mechanical music dealer who had stores in North Carolina and in Southern California.
He had some folks helping him design a piano player system using an early computer and tape, around that period, which he marketed under the "Amico" trademark, I *think* (need to pull out my G. W. MacKinnon catalogs, where this is advertised, to confirm the brand name).
I have never seen one of these systems, although the slightly later Marantz Pianocorder cassette-player digital tape / solenoid piano player system did sell very well, into the thousands I think. I am not sure that slightly later system is related to the earlier one, or not.
In these ads, MacKinnon advertises a digital tape-controlled (I think cassette tape or reel-to-reel, with digital programming?) player banjo, in a new 1970s cabinet styled like the Encore but with goofy proportions, which has four spinning(?) pickers mounted on small can motors(? I might be mis-remembering, and it might actually have four small picker 'arms' connected to solenoid plungers).
Of course there were also fretters to fret the strings.
I never found out if any of these electrically-played, electronically-controlled banjos were ever commercially sold, or if only the one prototype shown in the photos was built, to try to interest people in it.
I also don't know who designed or built these, but my friend Dana Johnson used to work for MacKinnon in the 1970s at the California location, so I could ask him... he might know something about it and may have even known the designer/builders.
Conn, to my knowledge, never built a single pipe organ... they came out with their organs in the early 1960s(??? late 1950s???) and every single one I've seen is an analog electronic organ. They built church-type electronic organs, but their most popular instruments were theatre-style electronic organs for home, theatre, and commercial use. They were very popular, and back in the day, were considered to have a very good and very warm and musical sound for an electronic organ. I think Conn was bought out by Kimball sometime in the 1970s(?) and the quality of their organs, and design, changed. I don't know when they stopped building electronic organs but it probably wasn't any later than the early 1990s.
@@andrewbarrett1537 Some additional info, off the top of my head based around what I've seen of the thing - It's actually two banjos mounted side-by-side, and it is pneumatically controlled (From what I gathered it had some electric parts, but the fretting mechanism was pneumatic.) It doesn't have any brand markings anywhere on it, not even on the banjo heads (all my personal banjos have a logo somewhere on the drum head,) though those appear to have been replaced at some point.
My only interaction with it has been while I was helping him carry some ~10 foot lead bass pipes down to his basement, so I didn't get much of a chance to look at the internals in detail. Definitely completely handmade, though, and quite old. Had about a quarter inch of dust on it.
@@littlesnowflakepunk855 I would very much like to see photos of this and/or get in touch with the owner for historical research purposes, if possible. This is probably an instrument of which the mechanical music community is totally unaware AND might not be in any of the standard reference works like Q. David Bowers' "Encyclopedia of Automatic Musical Instruments" published in 1972. In which case... they have something that is SUPER awesome (and there are many awesome instruments in THAT book not believed to exist today... we only have an old photo or image). Please contact me via my Facebook which is Andrew E. Barrett (in California). Thanks a lot! And/or they can get in touch via my FB Music page which is andrewebarrettmusic
I like how you guys kidded around with each other..and what a great place..i can't wait to go see it myself some day. indeed on the shoulders of giants! So glad someone is loving and preserving these phenomenal instruments.
"Look at him, he thinks he is funny" 😆 😂 🤣
Next episode: I was joking, it was actually a music box and not a heater.
Markus: **surprised Pikachu face**
It’s German humor mate, it’s no laughing matter.
LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this stuff!!! Singing birds are the best. Their mechanics are surprisingly simple. I have 3 of my own...2 bird cages and 1 bird box.
Im just worried Martin's going to discover some amazing method from 100 years ago than go home and redesign the MMX. lol
My suspicion is that this is his objective.
@@peterkelley6344 coming soon: MMX DEDUX
When he started examining hi -hats and cymbal damping I began to sweat a little.
@@russelldofrane6614 I had always assumed it would be: MM Mach 3.
He's so close to finishing the MMX I don't think he would totally abandon what he has done. I am suspecting significant changes.
To see the dreaded angle grinder again would make me pull my hair out.
Wow! I wish I was there with you. That Museum looks fantastic. Wish you could have made a longer video of the place. Martin, thank you so much for sharing this video.
Martin, so cool to see these mechanical marvels.
Fantastic! Can't wait for this bonus series. ✌
January 2020 - We'll open in March.
March 2020 - Well, about that...
I support martin doing a video just deconstructing a music box and explaining how it works. I love your videos showing how your instruments work, one of my favourites
Wow, wow wow, wow. What an incredible collection of beautiful machines! Also, Lucas is SAVAGE, hahaha; the dialogue between him and Martin was wonderful.
Booyah! Love to work together with the whole Wintergatan team!
Martin: I'm building a music machine *:D*
Lucas: In the time it took you to build one, I already made 2.
Martin: *D:*
@@LordDragox412 I think based on the fact that Martin needs to invent almost everything he wants on the mmx, he is doing really well. #ibelieve
@@Musikkabinett Yours don't use marbles, that's why he's taking longer :P
@@LordDragox412 Marbles have much more randomness than simple connecting rods :)
You're crazy about what you love and you're as lively as a boy❗️ Martin, happy birthday soon💝 Good luck and have a great time👍
YES love "Martin goes to museum" videos
Music is the one thing that makes us human. We have always found a way to do it. We will always find a way to keep it going.
Magical and wonderful to see how much work people put into their work!
15:40 "I've got so much inspiration for the MMX..." - uh oh :O
M u l t i m e d i a e x t e n s i o n
We may not confirm nor deny anything.
I'm seriously worried about it...
Martin: “Back to the drawing board...”
@@giuseppeblanco1256 no need to. That much I can pass on.
Yes! I love that your doing music machine Mondays again. That's what brought me to your channel originally.
Keyboard-based instrument: *exists*
Martin: "This is where the fun begins."
Can't wait to explore all of these beautiful works of art with you!
Martin: Does the "finger pose" for the intro.
Me: *HE WATCHES VINHETEIRO??*
Amazing place, thanks for sharing Martin! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
awesome.. music machine mondays was what hooked me 😁
What a piece of history of musical innovation! Wow wow wow.
Wow, so this is a new museum? Very cool to see! ;)
Aaand it's also good to see that there IS another Cinema Organ besides the Wurlitzer in Berlin! Very excited for the videos! ;)
Well we are 50 Years old. So not exactly new. But that whole "Internet" thing is difficult to explain why it needs to be prioritized, sooo there is that.
Our Cinema Organ is actually a Welte one.
@@Musikkabinett Achso, jetzt kenne ich mich aus! Herzlichen Dank für die Information! ;)
Das mit der Kinoorgel ist relativ spannend, gibt ja nicht sonderlich viele im deutschsprachigen Raum.. ^^
@@TheMikeOrganist es gibt glaube ich 2 oder 3 aber da könnte ich mich jetzt auch täuschen.
@@Musikkabinett Ja ganz genau! Spontan fallen mir auch nur die Wurlitzer in Berlin und die Welterundfunkorgel vom NDR ein.
Wow... thank you for sharing!
Martin: looks sternly at the camera with one raised finger
Me: I understood that reference
That place was amazing. Can't wait to see more. A lot of inspiration there.
Love his extra credits shirt!
If you haven't done it yet, you should go to visit two museums in Switzerland : in L'Auberson, the museum of music machines, and in Ste Croix, the CIMA museum, made by Reuge.
What a surprise! I was there 3 times and I still love it! I'd love to hear the Weber maesto as well please!
Noted.
@@Musikkabinett When you guys do the Maesto video, please make parts of the video with the front on and the front off, so we can hear to best effect, how much the main swell shutters in the roof modulate the sound of the pipes. Of course the clarinet has its own swells :) I think this realism is a HUGE part of the amazing sound of that instrument. As you well know, with the front off allows the viewer to see it all working, but then the other 3 ranks of pipes just 'blast away' at full volume :) Thank you!
@@andrewbarrett1537 don't worry we'll record audio only fully assembled.
@@maesto AWESOME, thank you!
I've been to this Museum, before!
Amazing instruments & an absolute joy for a musician to experience.
We need a neck reveal at 2 million subs
Slap!
@@bazahaza OMG
Thats going to the next marble machine x...a sister machine that compliements the marble x.
6:33 Hey, I see the tour guide is a fan of Extra Credits.
Oh no! My cover is blown! (I actually watch way to much YT)
Because games matter! ^_^
I was there over the summer. I met his sister. She was very nice and knowledgeable.
thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed your stay.
Nice! Those old machines are so cool. Makes me want to visit to museum. Too bad it's so far away from where I live.
:'( But depending on where you live there might be one closer to you. It's not us... But still Mechanical Music!
If you live in the USA or in the UK,
there are many good mechanical music museums you can visit!
In the USA for example, there are:
the Morris Museum in Morristown, NJ;
DeBence Antique Music World in Franklin, PA;
Stahl's Automotive Foundation (a great car museum with fantastic mechanical music)
in Chesterfield, Michigan;
Olden Year Musical Museum in Duncanville, TX;
Musical Instrument Museum in Phoenix, AZ;
The Nethercutt Museum / San Sylmar in Sylmar, California,
Musee Mecanique in San Francisco, California,
(which is a real play-it-yourself turn-of-the-century arcade) etc. etc.
In the UK there is the Musical Museum in Brentford, Sussex, for starters,
plus the Amersham Fair Organ Museum in Amersham, and many others.
Great video of amazing machines.
And we are seeing the birth of the next great music machine....
The MMX!!!!
Clever stuff man imagen being the person who has place all them notches and bridges, mind boggling
That is one impressive house/manor/building, too. I wouldn't mind an architectural tour just looking at the room designs and explanations of what each room was originally.
Off thats a tough one. But maybe a topic for our chanel at some point in the future.
5:50 Lucas is a Extra Credits fan!
10:33 - Ohhhh that stab and burn there... The MMX will have self-combusted over that!
But looking all that musical engineering there you have to wonder how people appreciated it and whether they were scared of things or were enchanted by it.