Can a Pellet Grill Fool a Texas Pitmaster?
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Every time you and Bradley get together it's a good time! I'm so happy the inner scientist let the data show the results as they are and not let your preferences shine.
Jeremy looked so defeated haha. The way he just sat and stared at the briskets after the decision. 😂
Such a great comparison, pretty amazing for camp chef to be able to stand up to an offset. I wish there was more detail in the video about the process on the camp chef, type of wood chunks, how often we're they out in, what kind of pellets, was there a water pan, ect. Would love to hear about those so we could try and replicate those results!
It would be great to see a video where 20+ participants with varying levels of BBQ knowledge and experience, who don’t know the variable ahead of time, do a blind triangle taste test to see if they can pick the odd one out and then, if they can, ask them which they preferred. This would still be a single data point, but I think would be more interesting than a side by side comparison because you’re already biased to “what’s the difference between these two,” and especially if you know the variable.
I think that would be cool as well.
Hey Jeremy and crew! You're the reason I own the Woodwind Pro. I have followed you for nearly a year now and very much enjoyed the content.
I think having the Woodwind Pro on the market is amazing because my weekends are packed and I don't have time to watch over a grill right now. I love running the pellet at night and trusting it will keep things incredibly consistent.
Just know that I still think and practice a lot of your preferred methods of smoking that you use on the big offsets.
I started with a little PK Grill and made great stuff there as well.
Thanks for the comparison and the videos over the last few years.
I have a pellet and off set cooker. I've used both for the same cook. Off set for few hrs for smoke the wrap and finish in the pellet grill for temp. I didn't want to heat the kitchen or spend all day in 107-degree heat. It came out great.
I do the same. I have a cheap offset I use for the first 3-4 hours, then I do the rest of the cook on the pellet smoker. 99% as good as a full offset cook.
I've been meaning to acquire a pellet cooker just to do that. I am glad to hear the strategy has produced a great result.
I have an offset and a traeger. This past weekend I smoked in the offset for about the first 4 1/2 hours and then put it on the traeger to get some sleep. I really think that’s the best of both worlds when it comes to flavor and it’s still somewhat convenient because I’m not tending a fire at 3am. Love the video as always!
I do that with my weber and pit boss best of two worlds
This is a great idea.
I do the same thing with Brazos offset then my Weber Smokey Mountain with temp controller. I told my boss about it and now he does the same thing with Lonestar offset and BGE with temp controller.
That’s my go to as well. Brisket and ribs. Get the offset smoke on it, finish in the pellet. Wrapped or un wrapped. It’s a great method
Woodwind pro with a rotisserie setup could possibly be tops for easy mode.
Love that idea!
I have done about a half dozen cooks on my Camp Chef Pro and they have all been successful. When I re-heat the leftover frozen meat in the microwave my kitchen smells like a campfire. It's crazy how much smoke it retains. I use all purpose Pit Boss Competition pellets and then experiment with different flavor B&B/Weber wood chucks/chips based on the meat. I really throw a lot in that smoke box for as long as I can because it does end up tasting great with good bark, and it's just more fun that way.
Drop the mike!
Great video that clearly allows your viewers to decide for themselves what approach will best fit their needs (especially the time/hassel demand) to make great Texas Style Brisket!
My only question is (in case I missed it in the video) is what type of wood pellets and chunks were used in the Woodwind Pro? Thanks to all y'all!
Great video guys. I've come to realize that if you're really in the game, having both (offset and quality pellet grill, I have the Yoder) is the conundrum we love to have, because it's the game of figuring out which one is the 'right' one for the situation that keeps us watching these vids and running our pits. Our loved ones doing the sampling get the benefits while we ponder the results. These are the kind of sleepless nights that I enjoy :).
For long cooks I start on my offset then move to my Weber Smokey Mountain with temp controller, for lazy cooks I used Weber Smokey Mountain and my pellet grill is like my outside oven.
Always enjoy these collab videos. Any chance the music volume could be matched with the vocals volume? I find myself having to constantly turn the volume up and down so I can hear words but not get blasted by the music.
Jeremy I don't know why you looked so surprised. I literally bought my Woodwind Pro because of YOUR reviews! The thing is pretty awesome, and I continue to learn watching your videos. Keep up the great work!
So did I, although I bought it from Andersons smoke show link when him and Jeremy did that video on the Camp Chef together, I think on zoom. I guess that's what they used. I love my CC Woodwind Pro 24 so far. Love all your videos Jeremy!
I did too! Jeremy's video's helped me really nail smoking meats. My CC Woodwind Pro 36 is definitely a step up from my Pit Boss Pro. The food and grill have been phenomenal. Thanks so much Jeremy!
Jeremy + Bradley videos are the best. More!
yes
Lone Star Grillz built in Conroe, Tx is a pellet smoker built like an offset and cooks like one!
Makes cooking fun again.
It also costs a mint
Great video! Love your content!!
I plan on buying a kamado grill soon, and this motivates me to figure how best to smoke briskets on it. Because it’s clear you can still get really good smoke with a little wood. Although the bark on the pellet wasn’t as strong in this video. Brad even stated the offset was barkier in the blind test.
What pellets and wood chunks did you use for camp chef??!!
THIS. This needs to be in the description @madscientistbbq
I don’t know why it’s so hard to come over to the pellet side. It’s so easy and the results are consistently awesome!
You have to love playing with fire to understand why
@@samagee2211 I hear ya. Maybe that’s why I won’t buy an offset. Last thing I need is another hobby. I’ll just keep rocking with my pellet.
Come..... Come to the dark side..... :)
Because for some, being a gatekeepy douche is like 3/4 of smoking.
@@SmokeAndVine it's actually the brighter side! considering the bark
I love the fact that Brad left the blind fold on as long as he did. That was hilarious. I'd be curious to see a comparison between a gravity fed with wood chunks in the ash bin and an offset.
Just started the video can't wait to see the results, but wanted to chime in and say I think for future comparisons Jeremy should have trimmed and seasoned both briskets. You are trying to compare the quality of the smokers so the meat that went on should have been as close to identical as possible.
I love these type of videos!
Man I love this… I love smoking meat. Cool to see all the guys I follow in bbq! I’m in San Antonio love to catch you guys in action.
I've been doin this for 20 years. I enjoy the process more than the food. The cook is a ritual to me.
Wait! What!? An easy bake oven that tied with an offset! Mind blown. This is gonna crush so many offset purest! I would like to see a comparison between the Masterbuilt Gravity Series and an offset. All in all an excellent video!
Click bait. This were the case Franklin would have four pellet smokers.
Well, they would need about 400 pellet grills. No substitution for that.
I'll have to try to remember to finish this tomorrow, i think i just woke up the neighbors with that music volume. 📢
Get your hands on a Lone Star Grillz Pellet Smoker and try this.
I’d love to see how the gravity fed smoker holds up.
Good question. I’d like to know how well the Woodwind Pro does versus a gravity fed smoker like the Old Country Gravity Fed Smoker that Jeremy used to have.
There are those who ran just wood in gravity smokers. That would be great comparison to an offset.
@@larrysioxson2567 I have the Old country gravity fed. It is about 90% of the way flavorwise to an offset with the ease of a pellet smoker if you add a controller.
There have been a few channels that did masterbuilt gravity vs woodwind pro. Every video I have seen masterbuilt wins out albeit by a very small margin. Results with old country would probably be similar
@@thom1879 you need to add a controller? I thought they had one and that was the point of a gravity fed lol.
I have the woodwind pro as well. Yeah its not a offset smoker but still gives of really good smoke. I noticed when you added the wood chunks you turned the handle right off the bat, i always let mine burn about 5-10 minutes first then turn it so it can smolder. Im still pretty new to this smoker, i was just under the impression to leave the lever down first so the chunks can catch fire
14:22 LOL you can see he is actually disappointed
Definitely agree on the paper wrap, best with tallow, it has produced the best brisket for me, either in camp chef or wood and charcoal barrel
Gravity fed is the closest to a stick burner. I have actually had people ask what offset i have. Put the masterbuilt up to compete
Have you tried running the MB on just wood? Some people have gotten great results that way, but it might mess up the chute area.
@@CoolJay77 I haven't tried just wood. I run 50/50 in the hopper with chunks in the ash box
I'd love to see you try a Masterbuilt Gravity smoker
He did already
That place you are cooking at looks absolutely amazing 😻
Awesome vid. I picked up a woodwind pro 6 months ago because of your other vid and it was an awesome decision. Keep up the good work with the vids.
I also picked one up because of his video on it. No regrets. It cooks amazing bbq. :)
Heck yes!
Wood love to see Lone Star Grillz pellet grill with there wood chips blended into the pellets vs theWoodwind Pro.
Great honest review. This ought to be repeated on shorter cooks, such as smoking pork ribs. The brisket was left unwrapped for long hours in the pellet smoker. I wonder if the pellet grill will rival the offset on a shorter time of exposure to smoke.
Love my woodwind. It’s a great piece of kit.
Great experiment! And i appreciate that the taste test was blind.
Double blind next time please
Wow look at all that cut stacked firewood that's awesome
Would be good to throw a Masterbuilt gravity series in there next time !
Got a pitboss Austin xl pellet smoker. The cooks have been amazing. i have converted from an offset. it's so close to taste with little work that it's a no-brainer
Thank you Jeremy for doing this.. So many folks slam a pellet smoker. A lot of times it is so much easier convenient to throw any protein on one and just go about your day instead of having to sit and "baby sit" an off smoker. They are both great at works best for you. I love them both...
Just about to buy a Woodwind Pro, so this video has come at the perfect time! Nice one guys.
I love mine! Worth the investment so far.
Bought a camp chef woodwind pro after Jeremy's first video. Can confirm it makes amazing BBQ!
How's it feel, I was going to buy one but the weight to price ratio kinda scared me.
If you tried the beef ribs that came off our Yoder YS 640 yesterday, I think you'd be amazed. Knowing what you're doing is far more important than what you do it on. It's just like golf; expensive clubs won't make you play better. Most of all - just have fun!
Hey Jeremy, love the videos. Have you ever checked out the Lone Star Grillz Pellet? It can take pellets In addition to wood chips. I own one and the flavor of it is unreal. It's a beast of a smoker. Closest to stick burner I've ever tasted.
You beat me to it.
Came here to say this. I've never seen anyone put it up against the Camp Chef, but everything I've seen says it wrecks every other pellet smoker. I'd like to get one at some point, but I need to get my deck rebuilt first, alas.
Man I looked that thing up and it's $3000. That's some serious dedication to barbecue lol. Seems like a very nice unit though
@@melvingibson4525 It’s custom fabricated as far as I know. I don’t think they just have a warehouse with a hundred of them sitting in it: I think when you order one, they spend weeks / months making it by hand. That’s what they do for most of their pits, but the Pellet Smokers might be more mass produce able since they’re less customizable, I’m not sure.
Either way, it’s reputedly in a league of its own in terms of smoke flavor on a pellet grill (before the Camp Chef one that takes wood chunks came out, anyway, I haven’t seen the two compared), you can easily remove the ash without having to take all the grates and such out unlike all the other ones, you can cook with charcoal in it with an insert they sell, and the whole thing is 1/4” steel, so it’s just built like a tank compared to most on the market. It also uses FireBoard technology for monitoring and control. Which is the best their is IMO.
It’s worth the price IMO, but I haven’t bought one as I don’t have a place to put one.
Came here to ask the same thing, please do a review or a side by side with the woodwind!
I use a Cookshack FEC100 and there is an accessory called the PA026 that lets me put wood chucks on top of the fire box. I also use a Pitts & Spitts smoke cage and throw on wood chunks here and there when I remember. I think the smoke flavor is indistinguishable from an offset smoker.
Last time someone said that about their FEC100 they was really cocky about it and Jeremy asked if they wanted to do a video to compare but they went silent.
I'm a Weber Smokey Mountain guy myself. Would love to see a collab with someone like Harry Soo and put a stick burner up against the WSM.
I enjoy your experiments and experience in your channel. Thank you. Id like to see if using charcoal pellets in the treager pellet smoker, if one can get offset type results.
Great video! I do think you should have used the same method of wrapping for both. That would have been a better comparison IMO.
Yes. Much more scientific if there are fewer variables.
I think the same person should have prepared both.
I think they made the right decision. This is more like a throw down between the methods. Do the best you can with each cooker so people can judge what works for them, since the best approach isn'tthesame for each..
@@wesleymargeson1134 Agree...I posted differently above...Jeremy explained it should be how each expert of HIS method should have free reign..including the trim. I agree with your assessment as well.
Totally get what you're saying.. I think our ultimate goal was to see if we could full a legit "pitmaster" into thinking the Camp Chef brisket was actually done on an offset. So we wanted to cook that Camp Chef brisket in the very best method for a pellet grill.
Looked at your smoker this afternoon. You were next door to me cooking and filming. Subscribed to your channel. Versailles KY
Can you please also check the heavy d, which is basically the same thing retrofit for other pellet grills?
I have found that care and attention to detail makes more difference than what type/how expensive your smoker is. I can make knockout pork butt on a $129 smoker.
Really cool video. I noticed the Asado style wood fired grill with the wheel. Are we going to get some videos on that?
I would love to see you try the smoke daddy heavy d heat deflector. It is supposed to do something similar and can fit into any pellet grill.
Smokin joes pellet smokers you have to try those, they have taken it straight to my heart… I couldn’t tell the difference at all
I’d like to see a similar comparison with Lone Star Grillz pellet grill, especially since they started selling wood chips to mix with the pellets.
Comfort Texas! That’s where My Mom was from! I have an Aunt and Uncle that still live there! Another Awesome Video Brother!! You the Man! 🙌🏼
Right on
I've never seen you guys try a gravity feed charcoal. Seems like it's the best of both worlds. I love mine but curious what the pros could do with it.
So, going back a couple of years which is closer OC Gravity fed or this one???
Results were really cool to see, but I can’t help but think we should have had more tasters and more parts of the brisket! Flats matter too 🥲
I don’t have a woodwind pro (yet) I currently have a recteq 1250 and it’s awesome. I don’t have anywhere near enough time for a stick burner so I can cook all day from work. I’ve really been looking to have mine modified with a smoke box or buy a woodwind pro because video after video shows that smoke box 100% makes a difference over a normal pellet grill.
I wonder if a smokeAI using wood chips would work well for a retrofit?
@@Christobevii3 from what I’ve read the smoke generators don’t work for good smoke taste because the wood isn’t burning hot enough to hit some chemical reaction that I can’t remember the name of. That’s why this has been such a big thing with the woodwind pro.
7:00 CHUUUUUUUD!
Good morning. Love the video. Needed to know the details on temp. And what pellets you used? Normally you would go over that in the past. Wondering why you didn't do it on this video?
Enjoyed the content... but for future reference, could you reduce the volume of the music? I was reducing volume 3-4 clicks whenever the music came on... then I couldn't understand the voices, so I raised it back up again...
Got it. Will look into it
Didn't bother me, but I like loud music, and didn't have anyone around to bother.
@@MadScientistBBQdude, this guy is just being pedantic. I did not notice the volume being a problem at all.
It's just like seasoning... The right amount is good. Too much spoils the product. The music was really annoying.
He's right though the music is actually too loud
Can I please please please come to the next barbecue you three do together again!!! You definitely need an Aussie taste tester and I've always wanted to visit the states!!! 👌😀
Adding a smoke tube (with a mix of pellets and flavored wood chips) or 2 to my Pit Boss makes the difference even harder to tell. Great vid Gents
Hey Jeremy - looked like a fun cook. How much of a role do you think the difference in wrapping method made in the end result? Amy chance Goldees is on to something here?
Jason...FYI, Lone Star Grillz is now selling hickory wood chips (sized to go through their auger) along with hickory pellets at a 50/50 mix ratio to produce a much more smoke flavor in their pellet smoker...better than Camp Chef
Don't try that in a Yoder. I have 3 Yoders, and sent some 50/50 mix with LSG wood chips. Needless to say, I was up at 1AM tearing the auger apart, lol.
@@kprowler Exactly...the wood chips are for the LSG which has a different auger than others...LSG made a disclaimer saying the wood chips may not work in other smokers...in other words...do it at your own risk...am sorry that it caused you problems on your Yoder...hope it didn't damage it...
The owner of LSG (Chris) has verified that a 50/50 wood pellets and wood chips works on theirs...
I should be getting my new LSG pellet smoker any day now...and have already got everything ready to try the 50/50 method...
Take Care...happy smoking!
If you had a regular pellet grill could you just get a chunk or two smoldering amd set it on the diffuser plate or just the grill grate near the meat?
PLEASE try using a gravity charcoal smoker.
I have a Traeger wood pellet smoker and a Char Griller charcoal gravity smoker.
The briskets coming off of the Char Griller are far superior to the Traeger.
The biggest reason I believe is that I can put it wood chunks into the charcoal hopper and the ash bin beneath it.
And the charcoal is far closer to the wood you are burning in the offset vs. the wood pellets (I use smokey mountain comp blend)
I bring the brisket up to the 190's, very slowly. (I dry brine the brisket the night before with Maldon sea salt)
Let it rest and the energy dissipate for one hour and then wrapped it in tallow soaked butcher paper and put that into an aluminum tin covered with aluminum foil.
Did a brisket three weekends ago that went for 10 hours in the smoker (no spritzing, no extra work at all) and then 20 hours in my Master Built electric smoker at 150 degrees.
Perhaps my best brisket to date (a dozen jurists present)
And the easiest brisket I ever made.
I put in more time trimming and carving it than I did cooking it.
Wishes for a great day,
David/
He's already done videos on Oklahoma Joe and Masterbuilt gravity fed.
I know it's hard because you don't want to hurt friends' feelings or leave people out. But would love a video where you talk about the Superlatives of BBQ:
Best BBQ restaurant you've tried
Best Brisket
Best Individual BBQer
Best RIbs
Best Rubs
Best Smoker
Etc.
I think that'd be awesome. Could even make it an annual BBQ awards when you only talk about what you've had/tried in last 365 days
I'd be curious to see if something like this would be possible with another pellet smoker if you used a smoke tube or something with chunks/chips to see if that helps or if it's more that little wood chunk chamber the Woodwind Pro has. Very interesting they're that close.
The barbecue collab game is fire!
what size woodwind pro were you using. I'm not sure I recall you saying. I'm guessing it was the 36. Thanks for always making such quality content.
@smokeandvine (Carlos Bradley) can you do a video on what exactly you did to cook the brisket on the woodwind pro, like technique, how long was cook time, and what to look for during the cook?
Love the Franklin shirt 🫡
Badass video. You guys killed it.
I have both! I cook in my offset to 165 After wrap it goes on my camp chef to finish it off
Best RUclips channel ever
Check out Lone Star Grillz Pellet Grill. Manufactured in Conroe, TX (Houston). It's as close to an offset as you can get.
14:05 if you slo mo you can pinpoint the exact moment his heart breaks.
Great video and very surprising. Been watching your stuff for years and always love when Brad is in an episode. I’m a big camp chef fan but did not love the price to build quality on the woodwind pro. The wood box could be bigger too, but I’m considering it. I’d love to see your thoughts on the Lone Star Grillz Pellet smoker. That’s my number one pick but have no seen it live. I just don’t have space or time to do offset in my life yet but love to BBQ. Would appreciate your thoughts. Perhaps a LSG Pellet review. Thanks again keep it up.
I would love to see Jeremy review the LSG pellet grill.
As an owner of the Woodwind Pro, curious what you thought was off about the product? I love mine and the build quality seems very high.
Defeated by an Easy-Bake Oven!
Love watching you guys!! Such an intimidating piece of meat!!
Please make a video reviewing the Ninja Outdoor Smoker! Do you have anything in the works? I love mine, but I would like to see your opinion on how that tiny grill/smoker compares to the larger and more proper equipment.
Smoky grilled chicken in less than 30 minutes is an absolute win in my book.
Jeremey, how did you know that I just got delivery yesterday of a Woodwind Pro 24? It took me most of the afternoon to assemble it, but it's exciting to hear that your end result is comparable with an offset! Thanks for another great video.
So on a regular pellet grill could you put some charcoal in a pan and add some wood chunks or chips?
It would have to be pretty big. My boss gave me a pellet grill and I had the most fun trying to make it cook like an offset before I lost interest. Most of the air coming in has been spent on running firebox so it's hard to maintain without throwing off the temp.
Thinking of getting a new smoker! I’ve had a pit boss pellet smoker and just need more smoke. Any recommendations? I’ve been looking at the Kamado big joe, taking suggestions
Those were both very delicious briskets. 🤤
Thanks man
You're a delicious brisket...
Gotta use mesquite pellets on a pellet grill. The extra richness of mesquite really helps on a pellet grill versus an offset.
Love the honestly
@14:06 Jeremy looks absolutely CRUSHED! Questioning a lot of life choices. Don't neglect, Chud said the offset did have better bark and classic offset flavor.
Makes me happy, with a small british garden, an offset is too big, but a pellet grill would fit perfectly!
Great video. I have a WW 24 (not pro) and love it. Going to pull the trigger on the pro soon. I never would have realized you were from my hometown. I was watching this video & my wife walked in and said "Jeremy" LOL. She went to high school with you. Small world man!! Keep up the content!!
Haha so funny! What is her name?
@@MadScientistBBQ Let me figure out how to message you privately
@@markmelton8676 you can just send on Instagram and my wife will find it for me
Good video. Shows how well pellet grills are producing great BBQ. I absolutely love my Lone Star Grillz pellet smokers. You couldn't get me to use any other pellet grill.
From what I’ve seen on you tube the Woodwind Pro burns through the wood chunks in their smoke box every 30 to 40 minutes which then requires you to refill the box to keep the wood chunk smoke flowing. Sounds like the same baby sitting as an offset. The Lone Star with 50% wood chips/ 50%
pellet blend truly allows you to get close to offset flavor in a true set it and forget it mode.
I have the Camp Chef XXL Pro Vertical and I do not see that at all. It usually last about 2 hours, and typically, it takes seconds to add more.
Chips burn up quick in 30-60 minutes. chunks no. Box full of chunks lasts several hours in my windwood pro set to 225
@@loganskis Lonestar has a method that mixes chips and pellets in the hopper
There are also different settings on the camp chef to allow more burn or less. I think the first few hours of smoking are the time to truly pump the smoke flavor into the meat. So for me, the set it and forget it nature of the Camp Chef shines after the first handful of hours.
Like overnight. Or start early in the morning and just cruise through the rest of the day.
Cool note about that other grill though!
@@cablebfg I was able to finally do an overnighter without waking numerous times throughout the night like I did with my ceramic. I loved my ceramic, but I could not set alarms on it, nor could I monitor it nor could I add more wood during the cook easily. As I stated before, my wife liked the ceramic products, but she absolutely loves what the camp chef is putting out.
So have you ever done a comparison to a Pitboss Brand pellet smoker. This could be a whole series…you testing stick burners V diff brands of pellet smokers
Nice little Miller lite plug there at the end lol😂