Shame he wouldn’t go to the gym… he was big, big boned, had very little muscle which wasn’t what the wwf was selling at the time, the fans just were not buying it…. Otherwise he’d have gotten whatever deal had to be done to keep him.. It’s the reality of wrestling, if your worth money to a promotion they will keep you.
Barry had perfect attitude as a wrestler..A shame they didnt do more with this man.. Probably my favorite worker period and could make anyone look great
Didn't exactly want to say that the family was into counterfeit money. Daddy and brother Kendall were handing out $20 dollar bills like candy around Christmas time 1989.
@@curthennig9448 Fair enough, he could have been even more forthcoming but considering how sensitive and embarrassing that topic could be, IMO he still answered in a reasonably transparent way.
@@UCKABAH He did answer it pretty openly. Really no shame in saying it though. It's not really a secret to long time wrestling fans. Even Barry said it was common knowledge.
It's unfortunate when a wrestlers hits his prime during a down period in wrestling. Before his knee injury, Barry was the best pro wrestler in America. When he was WCW/NWA champion he had that best in the world swagger and great matches. Riding to the ring on his motorcycle, the " lone wolf " Barry Whindam was the archetype for the American Bad Ass version of the Undertaker
I woulda loved to have seen Barry vs Bret Hart in their primes then . If they built it right , The Hitman vs. The Widow Maker ! Keep Barry in his serious NWA gear just as a heel like he was in the Horseman and BAM !!! That could have been one Hell of a match/feud .
Jim Cornette said the knock on Barry was he was so good he rarely gave 100% and didnt really love the business. But when he wanted to be he was the best in ring wrestler from 84 till 88 or so
He loved the business was getting severely underpaid and treated like second tier. When in actuality he was one of the better works and should have been paid as such. JS
@@reptileluver011 Dusty was gonna make him a huge star in 84 and gave Magnum his push when he left. When Barry returned in 86 he was never trusted enough again to get to be top guy
Who was the Rich wife? I don't remember knowing that. Is he still married to her. I don't want to know if it's something way out of the mainstream... I think. Not that I could imagine Barry doing something like that chucklehead, Comedian Jim Norton. I don't know how to say this other than to say Jim's wife used to have a much deeper voice before 😏🕶
As a young lad, a Barry Windham and Mike Rotundo (U.S. Express) WWF tag match, was the first match I ever watched. With the “Born in the USA” theme music, and winning the tag titles, and captain lou as the manager, I was hooked. Thank you Barry Windham! I wish they had done more with to push your career.
The Widowmaker Barry Windham was perfect and he would have had great programs with Hogan, Savage, etc. When they shortened it to just The Widowmaker it didn’t work, IMO. He was too big a name at that time to just drop it and it looked like another instance of Vince trying to erase history. Unfortunately real life got in the way so it was t going to happen anyway but I was so stoked for the possibilities when he came back.
@JefferyAshmore Barry seemed like a level-headed guy. Why would anyone think it a good idea to mess around with Billy-Jack. When people talk about tough guys in wrestling he rarely is talked about.
I loved the WidowMaker look! I wish he would have stayed Widow Maker a little longer. Had a run with Hogan, that sort of thing. He would have done great. One of my frinds asked Hogan at a meet an greet about it. And he said "Yeah, he was one of those guys, I never got to work against Barry unfortunatelly!" I am paraphrasing, but it was in the late 90s.
One of the most underrated guys in the history of the business and should have in my opinion been a much much bigger star. As The Widow Maker he should have had huge runs with both Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior.
I remember some of his early matches in Mid Atlantic when he was a tall lanky kid called Blackjack Mulligan Jr. You could tell then he would be a good one.
Barry was a hell of a Wrestler. I think his "look" is some what prohibited him from rocking to stardom to the level I believe he should of been. Big muscle bound wrestlers started to really become the trend. A hell of a wrestler. Watch him wrestle Flair multiple times for 30 minutes, 45 minutes, even hour matches. He threw the best Lariat I've ever seen. Doesn't hurt his opponents, executes perfectly, just a great wrestler and sound in every way. Sort of like Curt Henning. He was a hell of wrestler too and Athlete.
I remember him somewhere between 85-89 as a kid and always thought he was the coolest looking wrestler with his boots and he was a big dude that could fly when he was trim. He was one of my favorites, in southern Indiana we mostly followed TBS NWA/WCW and Memphis, WWF on weekends sometimes but it was boring. Then he disappeared it seemed like and I saw him a little in the early 90’s in WWF I think but I stopped until around 95 or 96. I always thought he was the one of the guys that would be a big star. Thank God for podcasts or I never would have known what happened to him and know how many other people appreciated what he did even if it didn’t last long (that’s what she said 😂).
Wow 🤩 I was never really a big fan of Barry windham , didn’t hated the guy or anything like that , just wasn’t a fan of him as a wrestler , but this windham is one hell of guy , I’m finding out he is a lot like me , value wise and where his loyalties lies , this guy is a real man , one of a kind , I know Brett Wyatt was related to him and heard good things about Wyatt 😮, the apple 🍎 doesn’t fall far from the tree 🌳 😮
To me Barry could've been the WWF CHAMPION or WCW also and been a believable champion of you could make him a tag champion with Mike Rantundo or anybody how he wasnt pushed more
His Widowmaker run was short lived, wish they brought it back when he returned in 1996. It was much better than The Stalker character, he probably could've been an I.C Champ as well.
How good was Windham? Gorilla Monsoon once said during commentary that he possessed "that excellence of execution." And he didn't bestow that on just anybody wearing a pair of tights.
Horrible they put a Black Eye on the Family like that! I'm sure many suffered for whatever Robert & Kendall did! Barry shouldn't had to go to Japan, he ended up back in the NWA/WCW but never shined again like he should've & beyond! He was extremely underused in my opinion!
I think Barry had great talent and had awesome in ring look. His problem was mediocre promo skills and mid range charisma in an era when that was what sold tickets. He didn't provoke the emotions that drew crowds, and I'm a fan. Just my opinion.
Barry was great, no doubt about it; but the WWE and WCW were two different wrestling styles at the time. WWE was more the cartoon character/super-hero type while WCW was the blue collar/barroom brawler type. Barry fit the latter of the two.
I think these Barry interview segments are good.. I just wonder why he felt the need too repeat "I Had Nothing Too Do With Whatever Happened?" I just find there's No need to continue repeating yourself if the person interviewing you is Not asking questions to expand on the topic..
Put yourself in his shoes. His entire family was shamed and blacklisted. He is one wrestler who appreciates his fans, and what happened still bothers him, and he's still embarrassed by that event - so it's his way of asking us to believe him. I do.
Good thing it doesn't matter what you think about the topic. If he felt the need to keep bringing it up, that's on him. He is the one who had to deal with the backlash.. And he had the chance to state what he wanted on this platform.. It doesn't take anything away from his opinions or views. Or overall substance. No need to nitpick over something so petty.
His father Blackjack Mulligan was big time, Kendall was mehhh but pops as a member of the Blackjacks was awesome. Barry was way way underrated in my opion, just underutilized.
Yeah family members sure can bring down bad mojo on the rest when they screw up royally. My older half sister did two stays in state prison, she is the only reason I didn't change my last name to the same name as my father just so that I wouldn't have the same last name as hers, I don't want to be associated in any way with her.
The Widow Maker had a good potential. He was undefeated for several months facing mostly jobbers and mid-carders. It looked like the WWF was building him up for a good run against top stars before he left. It would have been great to see Barry have a main event singles run against the likes of Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and other top WWF stars of that era.
I couldn't understand, did the guy tell Barry he'd delete it and Barry said no or did he say something else? Barry said I shared something I really didn't want to share and it sounded like he offered to delete or edit it.
Would have had great matches with Ted DiBiase. Barry could have easily been known as the Multimillion dollar man with that printing machine his father was using.
@@terminat1 No. 10-15 years prior to that time, perhaps. WrestleMania VII? Not a chance they would have gotten over to make that match make sense during that era.
@@vcvortex6356 If you were watching the event at the time with no idea of the main event, would you be angry or disappointed if it was in fact the last match on the card?
Windham was just an average wrestler from the South who was doing well in WCW. He's not champion material because he had an average body, couldn't entertain the fans, couldn't get two sentences together on the microphone and was just plain boring. Vince gave him a chance because he gave anyone who was 2 meters tall a chance, but it didn't work for him because he was just boring. As an extension of groups like the Horseman he was ok, but he really has no place in a Hall of Fame.
Big shout out to Barry Windham 🔥
Stream the Full Shoot Interview (2002) :
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Barry could Brawl ..High Flyer ... Mat Wrestling ...Legit Legend
And solid on the mic
Barry was such an under utilized " big guy " . I loved watching him compete. A natural born athlete. And we all know and how Vince worked.
I think he just didn't find his gimmick. JBL/Kane type of situation, but unfortunately in his case it was never resolved.
@@OdaVenom He may have needed a gimmick in 89 but he didn't really in 97. He and Bradshaw should have become a top face or heel tag team.
Shame he wouldn’t go to the gym… he was big, big boned, had very little muscle which wasn’t what the wwf was selling at the time, the fans just were not buying it…. Otherwise he’d have gotten whatever deal had to be done to keep him..
It’s the reality of wrestling, if your worth money to a promotion they will keep you.
Barry was always one of my favorites, hell of a worker!
Me too. He always had great matches. His superplex was so brutal looking
The most underrated wrestler ever in the business.
Barry Windham respected by others as one of the best in ring performers.
Barry windham is so under rated!
Barry had perfect attitude as a wrestler..A shame they didnt do more with this man.. Probably my favorite worker period and could make anyone look great
The Widow Maker and The Undertaker would have been a fantastic tag team.
Him & Flair would have those 60 mins matches. Just amazing
Really respect him for talking about the legal stuff with his family. Didn't duck the question.
Didn't exactly want to say that the family was into counterfeit money. Daddy and brother Kendall were handing out $20 dollar bills like candy around Christmas time 1989.
@@curthennig9448 Fair enough, he could have been even more forthcoming but considering how sensitive and embarrassing that topic could be, IMO he still answered in a reasonably transparent way.
@@UCKABAH He did answer it pretty openly. Really no shame in saying it though. It's not really a secret to long time wrestling fans. Even Barry said it was common knowledge.
Barry Wimdham's second WWF run could have been much bigger than it was.
He would have been fed to Warrior
For sure! He had a great potential.
one of the most underrated big guys in wrestling. RIP bray Wyatt. Barry was his uncle. i still miss him to this day 😢
His Gimmick The widowmaker was advertised on Coliseum Videos ppvs for Survivor series 89 & Royal rumble 1990 but he left WWF before the events
His picture was still on my Survivor Series VHS, even though he wasn’t on the card.
It's unfortunate when a wrestlers hits his prime during a down period in wrestling. Before his knee injury, Barry was the best pro wrestler in America. When he was WCW/NWA champion he had that best in the world swagger and great matches. Riding to the ring on his motorcycle, the " lone wolf " Barry Whindam was the archetype for the American Bad Ass version of the Undertaker
Same thing happened to Owen Hart in 94
No doubt ,Barry Windham one of the best,of all time.
Barry was so good in the ring.
Legend! 💪
I woulda loved to have seen Barry vs Bret Hart in their primes then . If they built it right , The Hitman vs. The Widow Maker ! Keep Barry in his serious NWA gear just as a heel like he was in the Horseman and BAM !!! That could have been one Hell of a match/feud .
For sure!
Jim Cornette said the knock on Barry was he was so good he rarely gave 100% and didnt really love the business. But when he wanted to be he was the best in ring wrestler from 84 till 88 or so
He loved the business was getting severely underpaid and treated like second tier. When in actuality he was one of the better works and should have been paid as such. JS
@@reptileluver011 Dusty was gonna make him a huge star in 84 and gave Magnum his push when he left. When Barry returned in 86 he was never trusted enough again to get to be top guy
Rich wife, liked to party, didnt need to work. Smoothest guy in the ring ever.
Class act all the way, underused later in his career for sure. Horseman forever.
So when he left, would that've been when he left the 4-Hs?
Who was the Rich wife? I don't remember knowing that. Is he still married to her. I don't want to know if it's something way out of the mainstream... I think. Not that I could imagine Barry doing something like that chucklehead, Comedian Jim Norton. I don't know how to say this other than to say Jim's wife used to have a much deeper voice before 😏🕶
People say if he had a fast car a couple thousand and a girl Barry was happy. Now he and his wife own half of Charlotte
@@thack57. What you just said is worm-a-phobic.
Favorite singles worker of all time. The Widowmaker wouldve been epic if hed gotten the chance to have a run.
As a young lad, a Barry Windham and Mike Rotundo (U.S. Express) WWF tag match, was the first match I ever watched. With the “Born in the USA” theme music, and winning the tag titles, and captain lou as the manager, I was hooked. Thank you Barry Windham! I wish they had done more with to push your career.
The Widowmaker and the Brain Busters left the WWF in late 1989. Their absence from the company created a noticeable void.
Literally 3/4 of the 4 Horsemen from the group's prime!
They were amazing workers but the WWF was fine before and after them.
And you also had JJ there at the time @@hitmangfx7162
Then Barry and Arn returned to WCW without Tully and Flair left
Barry Windham and Bradshaw as a team were cool asf. Windham was a class act and money in the ring. Respect
Barry so much more engaging in this shoot then the one later one. Great stuff
The Widowmaker Barry Windham was perfect and he would have had great programs with Hogan, Savage, etc. When they shortened it to just The Widowmaker it didn’t work, IMO. He was too big a name at that time to just drop it and it looked like another instance of Vince trying to erase history. Unfortunately real life got in the way so it was t going to happen anyway but I was so stoked for the possibilities when he came back.
Barry's a stud!!💪💪
Wasn't after he shot in billy Jack's hat... got beat like he deserved, Barry rode daddy's coattails and he could have been great but lazy.
@@JefferyAshmore 🫵🤡
@JefferyAshmore Barry seemed like a level-headed guy. Why would anyone think it a good idea to mess around with Billy-Jack. When people talk about tough guys in wrestling he rarely is talked about.
I loved the WidowMaker look! I wish he would have stayed Widow Maker a little longer. Had a run with Hogan, that sort of thing. He would have done great. One of my frinds asked Hogan at a meet an greet about it. And he said "Yeah, he was one of those guys, I never got to work against Barry unfortunatelly!" I am paraphrasing, but it was in the late 90s.
Widowmaker was over AF!!
Legend!
He was good but by over you mean here and gone without much notice, yes he was over and out. Too bad, they booked him wrong.
@@marshalberger4250^Widowmaker Hater!!
Jk jk
Man I loved the Widowmaker. One of my favorite gimmicks of all the time. Cool, badass.
I have this interview on VHS. I hope you guys post the clip of Barry talking about getting shot. It's a good one!
Barry Was My FAVORITE HORSEMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Widowmaker would have been great a program between him and Hogan for the WWF title or Savage would have been fantastic
One of the most underrated guys in the history of the business and should have in my opinion been a much much bigger star. As The Widow Maker he should have had huge runs with both Hulk Hogan and the Ultimate Warrior.
I remember some of his early matches in Mid Atlantic when he was a tall lanky kid called Blackjack Mulligan Jr. You could tell then he would be a good one.
USA Express was great to watch
Barry was a hell of a Wrestler. I think his "look" is some what prohibited him from rocking to stardom to the level I believe he should of been. Big muscle bound wrestlers started to really become the trend. A hell of a wrestler. Watch him wrestle Flair multiple times for 30 minutes, 45 minutes, even hour matches. He threw the best Lariat I've ever seen. Doesn't hurt his opponents, executes perfectly, just a great wrestler and sound in every way. Sort of like Curt Henning. He was a hell of wrestler too and Athlete.
He made Lex Luger and Sting look very good
Highly underrated
Know the names Flair called Jim Herd..." Phew!
I remember him somewhere between 85-89 as a kid and always thought he was the coolest looking wrestler with his boots and he was a big dude that could fly when he was trim. He was one of my favorites, in southern Indiana we mostly followed TBS NWA/WCW and Memphis, WWF on weekends sometimes but it was boring. Then he disappeared it seemed like and I saw him a little in the early 90’s in WWF I think but I stopped until around 95 or 96. I always thought he was the one of the guys that would be a big star. Thank God for podcasts or I never would have known what happened to him and know how many other people appreciated what he did even if it didn’t last long (that’s what she said 😂).
You were definitely one of the best Barry!
Smooth worker.
Barry was a great wrestler with a great look and just was under used. I have respect for him.
Wow 🤩 I was never really a big fan of Barry windham , didn’t hated the guy or anything like that , just wasn’t a fan of him as a wrestler , but this windham is one hell of guy , I’m finding out he is a lot like me , value wise and where his loyalties lies , this guy is a real man , one of a kind , I know Brett Wyatt was related to him and heard good things about Wyatt 😮, the apple 🍎 doesn’t fall far from the tree 🌳 😮
One of my favorite wrestlers
Barry
Barry had such good talent and WWF wasted him!!
As a kid I thought Widowmaker was cool asf!!
If given the chance i think Barry would have done great things
Im not saying 2002 wasnt a bit ago but damn he looks completely different now.
The Widowmaker should have been huge!
Barry was a damn good worker.
Barry wasn’t impressed when the interviewer just blurted out what the case was about when he had just said he didn’t want to.
I loved the stalker gimmick as a kid…
Great interview. Must have been a while back. He doesn't talk this much in interviews these days
Obviously, look how much younger he is.
Barry could have had an epic run in WWF/WWE.
Barry was sturdy and stiff.A credit to his Daddy.
To me Barry could've been the WWF CHAMPION or WCW also and been a believable champion of you could make him a tag champion with Mike Rantundo or anybody how he wasnt pushed more
Every time Barry Windham says "you know" take a shot. You'll be drunk before you know it. Lol
His Widowmaker run was short lived, wish they brought it back when he returned in 1996. It was much better than The Stalker character, he probably could've been an I.C Champ as well.
The Widowmaker wasn't over. People went to the restroom during those matches. I know, I was at many of those shows.
It was counterfeiting money
I.R.S. Mike Rotundo was on the case
Must have made Mike uncomfortable having to spy on his former tag team partner. From that day forward Barry had to pay his taxes.
The Widowmaker looked cool
Barry Windom can Wrestle
How good was Windham? Gorilla Monsoon once said during commentary that he possessed "that excellence of execution." And he didn't bestow that on just anybody wearing a pair of tights.
Barry is a stand-up dude.
He wasn't over in the WWF when he returned. That's why they weren't paying him like the other guys. He has to know that deep down.
Horrible they put a Black Eye on the Family like that! I'm sure many suffered for whatever Robert & Kendall did! Barry shouldn't had to go to Japan, he ended up back in the NWA/WCW but never shined again like he should've & beyond! He was extremely underused in my opinion!
I think Barry had great talent and had awesome in ring look. His problem was mediocre promo skills and mid range charisma in an era when that was what sold tickets. He didn't provoke the emotions that drew crowds, and I'm a fan. Just my opinion.
One of the most agile big guys. Didn't know he was 325? Looked more like 260 or so.
Windham returned to WWF in 1996 as "The Stalker."
Barry left cause his family was in serious trouble for counterfeiting $$
Wish I would have known Blackjack Mulligan at that time. I would have taken that briefcase full of money totalling $200,000.
Barry was great, no doubt about it; but the WWE and WCW were two different wrestling styles at the time. WWE was more the cartoon character/super-hero type while WCW was the blue collar/barroom brawler type. Barry fit the latter of the two.
I used to have a huge crush on BW. Back in the days when he was in the 4Horsemen.
Strange connection here, but I was married to a woman who worked for one of the others arrested who owned a pest control service she worked at.
Why work when you don't have to? Can't blame him for walking away while he still could walk.
That being said....The Stalker, lol.
What did Blackjack do ?
One of the few babyfaces I ever liked.
What did his brother/dad do?
He changed his name to Stone Cold Barry Zybisco and wrestled under a luchador mask for a while.
I think these Barry interview segments are good.. I just wonder why he felt the need too repeat "I Had Nothing Too Do With Whatever Happened?" I just find there's No need to continue repeating yourself if the person interviewing you is Not asking questions to expand on the topic..
Put yourself in his shoes. His entire family was shamed and blacklisted. He is one wrestler who appreciates his fans, and what happened still bothers him, and he's still embarrassed by that event - so it's his way of asking us to believe him. I do.
Good thing it doesn't matter what you think about the topic. If he felt the need to keep bringing it up, that's on him. He is the one who had to deal with the backlash.. And he had the chance to state what he wanted on this platform.. It doesn't take anything away from his opinions or views. Or overall substance. No need to nitpick over something so petty.
@@levih7326 i don't think its nitpicking, its the vibe i got, i found the reiteration wasn't necessary.. So what!
There's also no need to have a comment section on RUclips but here you are
@@shaynewest8757 it a good thing i found this comment section then.. So i can get butt hurt viewers like you a reason too comment! Take Care!
Hello
What his dad and brother do?
His father Blackjack Mulligan was big time, Kendall was mehhh but pops as a member of the Blackjacks was awesome. Barry was way way underrated in my opion, just underutilized.
They were caught purchasing and manufacturing counterfeit $20 bills (USD)
@@juantirado1054 I don't think that's what he was asking about...
@RatedRcny Roger that. I thought he was asking about their in ring accomplishments. Then I read the post above about counterfeit $20 bills!! Damn
They spent two years in federal prison.
👍🏾
Yeah family members sure can bring down bad mojo on the rest when they screw up royally. My older half sister did two stays in state prison, she is the only reason I didn't change my last name to the same name as my father just so that I wouldn't have the same last name as hers, I don't want to be associated in any way with her.
The greatest wrestler to never win the world title.
None of them "win" anything, what are talking about?
That was Flair's fault and Barry was pissed at him too.
Barry got screwed more than Brett Hart
The widowmaker character was awesome he could have Been a wwf world champion
😂😂😂😂 in 1989-1990? Right! Take a look at who was world champion
The Widow Maker had a good potential. He was undefeated for several months facing mostly jobbers and mid-carders. It looked like the WWF was building him up for a good run against top stars before he left. It would have been great to see Barry have a main event singles run against the likes of Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and other top WWF stars of that era.
Widow Maker should’ve been big . Definitely could’ve had a run with the IC title or even the heavyweight title
There should be a rass'l version of the office, episode "the widow counterfeiter." And theyre all incarcerated every episodes.
I couldn't understand, did the guy tell Barry he'd delete it and Barry said no or did he say something else? Barry said I shared something I really didn't want to share and it sounded like he offered to delete or edit it.
sh0uldnt of left the u.s express to begin with.
He should have went back to Vince and called himself "The Counterfeiter".
Would have had great matches with Ted DiBiase. Barry could have easily been known as the Multimillion dollar man with that printing machine his father was using.
@@curthennig9448 Or the "REAL" million dollar man.
Secret service🤔
The secret service goes after counterfeiting. His father and brother were in trouble for it.
Secret service is part of the treasury department
Barry Windham, Barry Horowitz, and Barry O would have made a great 3-man tag team. They could have challenged Demolition at WM7!
3 jobbers vs. the best tag team on the roster at the biggest event of the year?!?!
@@vcvortex6356 Don't you think Windham, Horowitz, and O would have gained strength by sharing a first name?
@@terminat1 No. 10-15 years prior to that time, perhaps. WrestleMania VII? Not a chance they would have gotten over to make that match make sense during that era.
@@vcvortex6356 If you were watching the event at the time with no idea of the main event, would you be angry or disappointed if it was in fact the last match on the card?
@@terminat1 I would have felt very ripped off. Yes.
The widowmaker was stupid af.
Wasn't exactly an earth shattering gimmick. NWA Barry was the best.
All the talent, none of the personality
Windham was just an average wrestler from the South who was doing well in WCW. He's not champion material because he had an average body, couldn't entertain the fans, couldn't get two sentences together on the microphone and was just plain boring. Vince gave him a chance because he gave anyone who was 2 meters tall a chance, but it didn't work for him because he was just boring. As an extension of groups like the Horseman he was ok, but he really has no place in a Hall of Fame.
He was a loser with no personality.