Actually the reason we see the tracks converge is due to light entering into the spherical shape of our eyes. With the sun this physics works in reverse. Light rays leaving a lit up sphere will converge to their point of origin, thus causing the cerpuscular rays that you see. I hate to say it but the Sun has to be relatively local. Nice unscientific try though.
"Actually the reason we see the tracks converge is due to light entering into the spherical shape of our eyes." Wrong. The same can be seen by recording with a camera that is constructed differently than our eyes, and it is not spherically shaped at all. "With the sun this physics works in reverse." Wrong again. Physics always works the same, regardless if it is sun or not. "Light rays leaving a lit up sphere will converge to their point of origin" No it wont, and you could have checked that clueless claim by yourself. "thus causing the cerpuscular rays that you see" Crepuscular rays are product of perspective, which can also be easily demonstrated in reality. "I hate to say it but the Sun has to be relatively local." If the Sun was "relatively local", we could observe drastic change in its apparent size and speed during the day, but we don''t, therefore it is very big and very far away. "Nice unscientific try though" Your unscientific try wasn't nice but rather pathetic exposure of your utter ignorance.
You just use terminology like parallax and triangulation but don’t actually explain anything!!! So where exactly are we getting the baseline to triangulate the sun??? And since the sun and the moon are both the same apparent size in the sky if we are using triangulation wouldn’t they come out to be the same distance??? And when you’re talking about parallax you have no idea how many assumptions you’re making in order to gain any sort of baseline… If you don’t know the baseline you cannot triangulate it’s that simple!!! EDIT You are just a parrot of the system that uses no critical thinking whatsoever When you mentioned the laser in the beginning I was literally laughing out loud because of how ridiculous that is… You show me a laser that doesn’t diverge past a couple miles yet you think we actually have lasers that would be able to travel at the bare minimum hundreds of thousands of miles without diverging??? 😂😂😂
Bruh if you want knowledge you are not going to get it here man. This is not a class it's just basics and i am sure any person who wanted basic understanding will be ok with that else you are going to have to study hard and he did't necessarily say that he has all the knowledge
No. The sun, Earth and moon usually form a triangle of three points, except during full eclipses. At half moon, the angle Sun-Moon-Earth is obviously 90 degrees. You can measure the angle Moon-Earth-Sun at that time and it comes to 89.523 degrees. So, applying some basic trigonometry to the right angled triangle, we know that the cosine of angle Moon-Earth-Sun is the adjacent/hypotenuse. In this case, the hypotenuse is the line Earth-Sun and the adjacent is the line Earth-Moon. Therefore 1/(cos 89.523 ) = hypotenuse/adjacent, = 390. So we know that the Sun is 390 times further away than the Moon. To calculate the absolute distances from that data requires observations at the solar and lunar eclipses, and some more trigonometry, but one can see immediately from the perfect occlusion of the sun by the moon that the diameter of the sun must be 390 times that of the Moon.
As a physicist and mathematician I suggest to study some projective geometry ( the theory behind perspective ) because it doesn't work the way you show! Convergence of parallel lines appears from the point of observation to the vanishing point and not on a plane lying already on a great distance. So when you show the rails and compare it to the light rays you are seriously mistaken geometrically. You created a whole vanishing plane in a three- dimensional space and embedded it to assist the syllogism but it really breaks down to lack of real geometric knowledge....This is not how it works....So unfortunately your reasoning is not mathematically legitimate brother. I suspect you haven't study geometry at all on an advanced level! This is acceptable in science to make errors but what is not acceptable is to try to convince others after your faulty syllogism has been shown to you. I would suggest Brannan, Esplen and Gray's Geometry (Cambridge University Press ) to start some serious study in mathematics. It is on an easy level as a Geometry course but will clear things for your geometric understanding!
@@Moletrouser For rays to be parallel and converge at the Sun you have to look directly into the Sun. While we observe divergent rays from the edge on view, and in that case perspective has nothing to do with it
As an expert in RUclips liars, let me correct you on some points you make: Projective geometry is not "theory behind perspective" but branch of mathematics that deals with the relationships between geometric figures and the images, or mappings, that result from projecting them onto another surface. Convergence of parallel lines doesn't appears from the point of observation to the vanishing point but always when we are angled in a such way that one part of parallel objects is very far away from us. There is not mistake in comparing rails with sun rays, since both are parallel, and both are very far away. I would love to see that advanced level you studied geometry at. "I would suggest Brannan, Esplen and Gray's Geometry (Cambridge University Press )" Which part of that book specifically talks about convergence, parallel lines, vanishing points, and all the crap you spouted in your reply?!
@@max5250 Just my 2 cents "There is not mistake in comparing rails with sun rays, since both are parallel, and both are very far away" Both parallel? how many light sources? I though it was 1 so they cannot be parallel to each other as they come out one source poit. I dont know if anyone is correct. I do not beleve the sun is as far away as they claimed it is.
@@hjlosada "Both parallel?" Yes, both are practically parallel. If you want to cherry pick, maximum difference between two sun rays is 0.5 degrees, "how many light sources?" One light source, of course. "I though it was 1 so they cannot be parallel to each other as they come out one source poit." What exactly would prevent two or more rays of light to not to be parallel, because they are coming from one source?! (Sun is not point source since it has measurable angular size od 0.5 degrees) "you must be God to judge someone level of education" No, I don't have to be God. It is enough to be educated, in order to know when someone with less education speaks crap. "show me with math how do you know the dstance to the sun?" If you are willing to acquire some new knowledge, and know how to use google search engine, you will easily find couple of articles on internet, describing how some smart people estimated distance of the Earth from the Sun, more than 2000 years ago. "because some said so?" Of course not. Science doesn't work because someone said so, but because everything in science can be independently verified. For example, even without science and mathematics, one can easily say that the Sun is very far aways, and thus much bigger than the Earth is. All it takes is a couple of observations and a little bit of logic. These were my 2 cents.
You are correct but very very very few people actually see the truth from Scriptures and I am one of those that Yah revealed to...so I am just curious and may I ask how did you come to know...in other words, how did you understand that the raqiya/firmament is more or less the atmosphere and that the sun, the moon, and the stars are in the raqiya/firmament? I know that Genesis 1 said this but most people cannot see the truth but believe the lies the world tell them...
@@jc2coming My christian brother from Mexico helped me understand and im all the way in the Caribbean I met him on Facebook he started to show my things I never knew about .real science like cymatics sound and vibration and the earth being a torus field and everything nasa shows is cgi and cartoons its never real then I started to look up hebrew cosmology and it all connected, Genesis goes over everyone's head about the firmament but thank Yahshua now I understand.
@@romanodickenson1107 I was a Christian before too until 1 day Yah came and opened my eyes and led me to His Son Yahusha, exactly as He told us in Yahuchanan/John 6:44-45... I was an engineer and a scientist and I was shock when Yah opened my eyes and revealed the truth to me about everything, including that He created the sun, the moon, and the stars and He put them in the raquiya/firmament just as written in Gen.1 and yet we all believed the lies Satan told us through the human agencies such as Science and NASA. Between men and Elohim who should we believe and though the answer should be very simple just as Scriptures said...'we should believe Elohim and not men for all men are liars' and yet the reality is that the WHOLE world believe men rather than The Words of The Most High our Heavenly Father as Scriptures foretold long ago that "Behold - Darkness covers the earth, and deep darkness the people" (Yashayah/Isaiah.60:2) and darkness here represent sins and deception and Rev.12:9 confirmed that indeed Satan has deceived the WHOLE world!!! And I as the witness to The Word of Yahuah clearly see that in fact the WHOLE world is deceived except the very few elects mentioned in Dan.12 & Mat.24... Since then I do not believe anything but The Word of The Most High Yahuah and His Son Yahusha revealed and taught me everything I needed to know just as He promised through His prophets. He taught me not to trust men when He revealed that His Name is not Yahweh but Yahuah and His Son Name is not Yashua but Yahusha and revealed me the Scriptures about His Name and His Son's Name - HalleluYah!!! I will pray that Yah will reveal to you His true Name too. May Yah bless you and watch over you and I hope to see you after His return.
I thought the earth was roundish and the sun was about 93 million miles away but now that you have explained it to me like this I'm questioning if that true. This left me with questions that I never had before.
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for some peoples knowledge who think sanatan dharmas believe in mythology as history but in reality they actually knew the distance of earth from the sun as its written in HANUMAN CHALISA for many years you should check it
Basacially that's what astronomers did in the past when using transits of Venus. It required measurements from 2 different locations. And I also know some amature astronomers who also did their measurments from different parts of the world
@@alanwhitham4 Right you are. What a crock of sh*t. Let assume everything and start from there, "measuring " what we already predetermined with zero testing afterwards, or at best testing if it fits our preset system of assumptions only.
As long as Earth's speed is around 66,600 mph, the distance doesn't matter. We just made it up for a bit of mockery. Not unlike earths tilt of 23.5 or 66.5 degrees. Just like the distance to the stars, its all based on theoretical nonsense.
Thumbs up (on the video, not my comment) if you also think, that it actually might be great if people like this guy would really be paid or sponsored by NASA), or at least by some science society that cares about bringing Real knowledge to the world. And yes, that's a proof that Russians don't just drink vodka with bears the whole day...
Great video! But I have one math problem that I can not figure out. Maybe you can help. I love how you calculated the distance to the tree in the video using a triangle! I love studying geometry. Cairo, Egypt is approximately 7580 miles from Los Angeles, California. On March 26,2022 the sun is in Cario’s western sky in the evening at 5pmEET at the same moment it is in Los Angeles’ eastern sky at 8amPST. Both cities are approximately on the same latitude line. Their line of sight to the sun makes a triangle. They are both looking at the sun at the same moment of time with the bottom leg of the triangle being @7580 miles. Angle alpha and angle beta must acute angles……probably close to 20 degree angles or less. How can the other two legs of the triangle be approximately 93,000,000 miles with this empirical evidence? SSS TRIANGLE formula. Thanks in advance!
The answer is obvious - The sun is not far away making the angle of 20 degrees or less from the observer from Cairo and from Los Angeles. This is the truth The Creator revealed in Gen.1 that He made the Raquiya/Firmament (aka The atmosphere) and He put the sun, the moon, and the stars in the Raquiya/Firmament. The Creator said He created The Heaven (The First Heaven) and the earth by Day 1 but the sun and the moon and the stars He did not created until the 4th Day... Question for any intelligent human that believe in The Creator: So what was the earth spinning around before the sun was created?
"Angle alpha and angle beta must acute angles…" When you pull angles out of uranus, your end result must be a complete crap. "How can the other two legs of the triangle be approximately 93,000,000 miles with this empirical evidence?" Which "empirical evidence" tells you it is impossible for the Sun to be 93.000.000 miles aways from both locations?!
@@max5250 Agreed. The actual side of the triangle between the two cities is a straight line THROUGH the earth. A straight line lying on the ground between those two cities is not part of any triangle because it is not straight. It is curved because the earth is spherical, and the angle of that curvature is the difference between the almost 90 degrees that the two angles should be and the 20 degrees they are because the line between them should be a straight line.
“Put in our known quantities” So we know angles. We know our one known distance which we measured out physically, and therefore we have what we need to solve the distance to the tree. Awesome. Now, what known do we have when measuring distance to the sun? Has someone done this with the US, from Hawaii or California and Ny as the crow flies underground. We know the size of earth. We can easily get the angles at the exact same time in a live broadcast and figure out the sizes of any planet including the sun.
I’ve never put any thought into this before. What if you got two folks in separate parts of town viewing the crepuscular rays, or even three and built a 3-d model of the images.
geometrically wrong. the rail tracks are one line each. not one line together. yeah, perspectively they look like they coming from one point, but realistically they are not. the sun light is coming from one source of light. not two sources converging. if that was the case you'd have duplicate rays coming through at different spots simply because there'd be two sources of light. there is one source of light and it is shining down like a flashlight. geometry is wrong. God says you are wrong also. truth be told the only thing i know for certain is that God said He created the firmament and created the two great lights. they are not no 93 million miles away.
"geometry is wrong." If geometry was wrong, you wouldn't be typing that clueless reply on a computer, using internet, but you would eventually relaying it using smoke signs...
@@DanBeech-ht7sw all you are doing is showing you couldn't check the equations, so just decided to accept they were correct. Truth is you cant check anything they tell you. You cant identify stars as suns, billions of galaxies, our sun is a ball of fire, etc..... You can only chose to believe. RELIGION.
@@aceventura5398 "The sun can apear to look as close as a distant tree or mountain." That's true only if your family doesn't allow you to leave your home. But, when you get out, your will find out that the Sun is not near the tree, or a mountain, or any other object on Earth you can reach. You will also notice that the size of the Sun is the same, no matter from what location on Earth your are observing it, which is clear indication it is not either local or small. You can only blindly believe it is local and small, but your religion will still be wrong.
I guess the perspective point didn’t sink in. It took me a minute to figure it out, but he is absolutely correct about that. But I do believe we might be able to figure out how to measure by rising up to a point where we can pin point exactly where the rays land on earth, and then measure that, and also make sure you are at a right angle, up in the sky, to be sure in get the correct angles.
@@romanm.3529 "clouds behind the Sun" there are no clouds behind the Sun, its just that flat earthers are too dumb to realize that thick clouds can block the Sun so they appear infront of it and thin clouds cant obstruct the Sun, so they falsely conclude that they are behind it. If the Sun was below the clouds how can people on an airplane look up to see the Sun at noon? Why can the Sun be visible on the entire world if it is so close and so small
@@HugoFilho. Sun is subjective to the observer, it's just a picture rendered to each based on elevation. You can't deny observed phenomena, otherwise you are denying reality and there is nothing to talk to about with a blind person. I repeat, there is no objective one Sun shining to all. It's just a simulation. Anyone can prove this at home, placing a light source close to slits and noticing the shadows. Clouds behind the Moon are also observed and cannot be attributed to brightness. Flat Earther think the luminaries are thousand of miles away, which is blatantly wrong, so they are too wrong on that one
@@romanm.3529 "Sun is subjective to the observer, it's just a picture rendered to each based on elevation." Denying objective reality and trying to replace it with subjective fairy tales, won't do any good to you or your credibility. "You can't deny observed phenomena, otherwise you are denying reality and there is nothing to talk to about with a blind person." Congratulations dude, you just dude the very same thing, tried to deny observable reality. "It's just a simulation." Nope. We can objectively see the Sun, we can measure its elevation on the sky, and time it takes to move. That's one of the ways we know we are not living on a pizza shaped world, with basketball size Sun above it. "Clouds behind the Moon are also observed and cannot be attributed to brightness." When you go out of your basement and find about world around you, eventually, you will be able to fly with an airplane. When you do that, you will find out one devastating truth, you can always see the sun without any clouds, from an airplane at cruising altitude.
This video does not show how an amateur astronomer can calculate any of the distances to any celestial body - whether the moon, sun, or stars - unless he begins with the assumption that the distance given to the sun (approximately 93 million miles) is correct. In other words, we have to take it on faith that modern science has this measurement right. What if we do not want to take that on faith? How do determine these things for ourselves?
Distance to the Sun is not an assumption at all. You cannot determine anything by yourself since you are hopelessly uneducated. I am not sure how can you find your way to the bathroom with such incompetence.
@@vincentmcardell8183 Any amateur astonomer interested in estimating distance to any celestial body, can easily find out how to do that, and perform all the observations needed for that. You have no knowledge or intention to find out how to do that, but you rather believe any nonsense that suits you.
@@max5250 The correct English is "you'd rather believe" or "you would rather believe" not "you rather believe." Learn English. It is much more useful than astronomy.
@@vincentmcardell8183 Yeah, right… knowledge of English would be of a great help to you if someone dropped you with a parachute above Russia, or some big African francophone country…. Knowledge is power, therefore learn anything you like. The moment you try to give advantage over one topic (English in this case) over another topic, you are only presenting your bigotry.
So, you are using your heliocentric model to prove the distance of the sun from earth which the flat earthers doesn't believe in because you have no solid proof of that and it's just a theory. 1. The sun rays coming from the clouds down to the ground making a circular form instead of being totally random in all direction proves that the Sun is in local position within the atmosphere. 2. We can see sun rays on the parts of the clouds that are closer to the sun but not that are far away proving again that the sun is local. 3. At 2:45 you are showing a foolish drawing made in power point instead of using a real-life picture to demonstrate it, tells us that it doesn't hold any weight in the argument. 4. You are just fooling yourself taking the perspective and explaining the sun rays coming from the clouds. This doesn't explain the rays that are coming from the center clouds in the image and going far to the right side. Don't tell me that those rays are reflected on the clouds and again fooling yourself. 5. Stop taking help from NASA to prove your bullshit.
How cute, so perspective only exists when it fits your narrative huh? How convenient. Learn basic geometry and you will see the Sun would never set on a flatearth. Nice try indeed.
@@alexf962 Peace, maybe you should read my arguments again carefully and come back. I haven't said anything about perspective or anything against it. What I said that it doesn't help to explain why the rays are not reflected randomly when going through the cloud? Why the rays having a direction seems to be coming from one point and spreading outward?
@@LoveFire The rays are parallel, if you look for pictures taken from above, you will see this. The question to your last point is still: perspective. Just like rali tracks they appear to converge though being parallel. Nevertheless a sunset proves FE wrong empirically.
@@alexf962 Bro, the rays are not coming towards the observer position from the cloud holes and can't be compared to rail tracks. They are coming vertically from clouds to the ground. I am not talking about how they are small at the cloud position and getting wider at the ground position. You are not explaining my points.
You want mathematical proof?! Look at these sun rays, the one on the left appear to fall at 45° to the ground, the one in the middle appear to fall at 90° degrees, while the one on the right appear to fall at 270° degrees. According to the angle of sunrays you can measure at any given location at different time of the day, you are seeing: - 14:00 (02:00 PM) on the left of the photo - 12:00 (12:00 AM) in the middle of the photo - 10:00 (10:00 AM) on the right of the photo So, you think you could see four (4) different time--zones in one photo?! Do you have any idea how far apart these four zones are in reality?! Hint: Couple thousands of kilometres.
@@realfrankandrade "The sun is 5500 km above earth and is only 51 km in diameter." When I take a camera and snap a photo on sunrise, and gain on the noon, the size of the Sun is exactly the same, yet the Sun was more than 10.000 Km aways from me on sunrise, and only 5.5000. If you think an object of 51 km in diameter will be the same size at twice the difference, you should visit your optometrist first, and psychiatrist next.
Thumbs down. And no I'm not a FE. You can sit there and trust the radar system and trust the science but have you personally actually built a radar system that will tell you the distance to Venus? Have you actually figured out the actual speed of light? It's cool that you can repeat what the books say but can you prove it? Could you triangulate from where you are at to figure put the distance?
You don't have to be flatearther to be equally stupid as they are, or even worse. We accept science not because we must believe it, but because we know it works. You yourself also haven't figured actual speed of light, but you wrote your clueless reply using device that depends on actual speed of light, and is created by the same science your try to belittle.
This video would have been a lot better if it were not so patronizing. I have a loved-one who believes the world is flat, and I'd like to help him without calling him an idiot. I can't share this video
Grown up person, who enjoys all the amenities made by modern science, yet is clueless enough to accept blatant lie that we live ona a pizza shaped flat disk, suffers from some kind of mental disorder, and should be placed under supervision of mentally healthy people.
What was the earth spinning around before the sun was created on the 4th Day? For Scriptures revealed that in the beginning The creator created The Heaven (The First Heaven) and the earth but the sun is not created until the 4th Day!!! Any smart ash & dust being want to speak against The Word of The Creator? I command Satan and all your fallen malakim/angels and evil spirits stay out of this In the Name of Yahuah my Father The Creator of Heaven & Earth and everything in them for I know we are not struggling against flesh & blood but against you who are in the last heaven/Raquiya you have lied enough to human and your punishment will be much more severe than those who you deceived for you had been judged as foretold in Scriptures!
@@griseofacies On judgement day then you will know who is right. FYI - I was both a scientist and an engineer and did believe in the reality until I saw the battles in the unseen world just as Scriptures said!!! And though Satan has deceived the WHOLE world by now just as Scriptures said but he could not deceived me no longer for my Heavenly Father has opened my eyes and taught me everything I need to know...and has given me power over even Satan. You only have seen 1 side of the coin and learned from the human but I have seen and know both so if you are right then I don't have anything to lose but live a very good and righteous life on this earth anyway...But if I and The Scriptures are right then you are in deep trouble for all people like you will be judged & thrown in The Lake of Fire" along with Satan & all his fallen angels & demons as The Heavenly Father has said.
@@jc2coming " God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. " So, who governs the night when there is no Moon on the sky at night?!
It is the truth from The Creator Who knows what He created and where they are rather than men who are proven liars. In judgment day you will know that The Creator is right and men are wrong and that science is a big lie from fallen angels... I know because I used to be a scientist until My Heavenly Father opened my eyes then I see The WHOLE world is deceived just as Scriptures said (Rev.12:9 & Isa.60:2) except those who The Father chose to come out of the world...
I came here to learn how we measure the distance of the sun and instead get this.... I don't care about flat earth and what they believe. I came here to learn how we measure the distance of the sun. I know....i know he will answer the question afterwards but... Next....
Train tracks is not a correct analogy of sun rays. The tracks NEVER come together as the rays from a far sun wont. The suns rays will encompass the whole earth. They wont be doing what the tracks do at a distance. You claim the atmosphere is responsible for giving the appearance of a close sun from rays that have converged to a tiny point before reaching earth...... like the train tracks 😂 Look see the train tracks do it..😂
Your explination for measering the distance to a star was built on knowing the distance between two points in space. How about you explain how these distances were calculated first. " Oh the tree thing " The sun can look as close as an object here on earth at sunset. So the suns distance will equal the horizon. A plane can fly past the sun. So the trigonometry would put it 93million miles away. So that nonsence dont fly son. Absolute rubbish. Your explinations would only have your ballers going "yes yes " and youngsters who just trust you. But its rubbish.
So, trigonometry is dead wrong, and flatearthers are right?! Unfortunately for you, trigonometry has been successfully used for more than 2000 years, while flatearthers are not capable of drawing something as easy as flat map of their flat worlds, with correct sizes, shapes, and distances of known continents.
@@aceventura5398 Trigonometry doesn't rely on how close or far objects are, and work perfectly fine, as long one understands it. The fact that trigonometry give us different results for distance of the Sun from different places on flat Earth, doesn't mean trigonometry doesn't work on great distances, but that Earth is obviously not flat. After all, we used trigonometry to calculate the distance of the Sun from spherically shaped planet Earth, and we got quite precise result.
@@max5250 you cant measure the distance to the sun using triangulation. A bird in flight could just as easily be stated as far as the sun using triangulation. How could they measure how far one star is to another to set the equation. Its not possible. They are bulshting you. People say they believe in science when they are believing in SUPPLIERS OF IMFORMATION You cant be given science. You must do the science yourself. Your placing FAITH in SUPPLIERS OF IMFORMATION. Thats a religion.
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Actually the reason we see the tracks converge is due to light entering into the spherical shape of our eyes. With the sun this physics works in reverse. Light rays leaving a lit up sphere will converge to their point of origin, thus causing the cerpuscular rays that you see. I hate to say it but the Sun has to be relatively local. Nice unscientific try though.
My man!! Local sun baby 🌞
"Actually the reason we see the tracks converge is due to light entering into the spherical shape of our eyes."
Wrong.
The same can be seen by recording with a camera that is constructed differently than our eyes, and it is not spherically shaped at all.
"With the sun this physics works in reverse."
Wrong again.
Physics always works the same, regardless if it is sun or not.
"Light rays leaving a lit up sphere will converge to their point of origin"
No it wont, and you could have checked that clueless claim by yourself.
"thus causing the cerpuscular rays that you see"
Crepuscular rays are product of perspective, which can also be easily demonstrated in reality.
"I hate to say it but the Sun has to be relatively local."
If the Sun was "relatively local", we could observe drastic change in its apparent size and speed during the day, but we don''t, therefore it is very big and very far away.
"Nice unscientific try though"
Your unscientific try wasn't nice but rather pathetic exposure of your utter ignorance.
Stay local
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You just use terminology like parallax and triangulation but don’t actually explain anything!!!
So where exactly are we getting the baseline to triangulate the sun???
And since the sun and the moon are both the same apparent size in the sky if we are using triangulation wouldn’t they come out to be the same distance???
And when you’re talking about parallax you have no idea how many assumptions you’re making in order to gain any sort of baseline…
If you don’t know the baseline you cannot triangulate it’s that simple!!!
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You are just a parrot of the system that uses no critical thinking whatsoever
When you mentioned the laser in the beginning I was literally laughing out loud because of how ridiculous that is… You show me a laser that doesn’t diverge past a couple miles yet you think we actually have lasers that would be able to travel at the bare minimum hundreds of thousands of miles without diverging??? 😂😂😂
I was going to make a similar comment. Lol such bullshit of a video
Bruh if you want knowledge you are not going to get it here man. This is not a class it's just basics and i am sure any person who wanted basic understanding will be ok with that else you are going to have to study hard and he did't necessarily say that he has all the knowledge
No. The sun, Earth and moon usually form a triangle of three points, except during full eclipses. At half moon, the angle Sun-Moon-Earth is obviously 90 degrees. You can measure the angle Moon-Earth-Sun at that time and it comes to 89.523 degrees. So, applying some basic trigonometry to the right angled triangle, we know that the cosine of angle Moon-Earth-Sun is the adjacent/hypotenuse. In this case, the hypotenuse is the line Earth-Sun and the adjacent is the line Earth-Moon. Therefore 1/(cos 89.523 ) = hypotenuse/adjacent, = 390. So we know that the Sun is 390 times further away than the Moon.
To calculate the absolute distances from that data requires observations at the solar and lunar eclipses, and some more trigonometry, but one can see immediately from the perfect occlusion of the sun by the moon that the diameter of the sun must be 390 times that of the Moon.
As a physicist and mathematician I suggest to study some projective geometry ( the theory behind perspective ) because it doesn't work the way you show! Convergence of parallel lines appears from the point of observation to the vanishing point and not on a plane lying already on a great distance. So when you show the rails and compare it to the light rays you are seriously mistaken geometrically. You created a whole vanishing plane in a three- dimensional space and embedded it to assist the syllogism but it really breaks down to lack of real geometric knowledge....This is not how it works....So unfortunately your reasoning is not mathematically legitimate brother. I suspect you haven't study geometry at all on an advanced level! This is acceptable in science to make errors but what is not acceptable is to try to convince others after your faulty syllogism has been shown to you. I would suggest Brannan, Esplen and Gray's Geometry (Cambridge University Press ) to start some serious study in mathematics. It is on an easy level as a Geometry course but will clear things for your geometric understanding!
For crepuscular rays the vanishing point is the Sun. I cannot see your problem - could you perhaps elucidate?
@@Moletrouser For rays to be parallel and converge at the Sun you have to look directly into the Sun. While we observe divergent rays from the edge on view, and in that case perspective has nothing to do with it
As an expert in RUclips liars, let me correct you on some points you make:
Projective geometry is not "theory behind perspective" but branch of mathematics that deals with the relationships between geometric figures and the images, or mappings, that result from projecting them onto another surface.
Convergence of parallel lines doesn't appears from the point of observation to the vanishing point but always when we are angled in a such way that one part of parallel objects is very far away from us.
There is not mistake in comparing rails with sun rays, since both are parallel, and both are very far away.
I would love to see that advanced level you studied geometry at.
"I would suggest Brannan, Esplen and Gray's Geometry (Cambridge University Press )"
Which part of that book specifically talks about convergence, parallel lines, vanishing points, and all the crap you spouted in your reply?!
@@max5250 Just my 2 cents "There is not mistake in comparing rails with sun rays, since both are parallel, and both are very far away" Both parallel? how many light sources? I though it was 1 so they cannot be parallel to each other as they come out one source poit.
I dont know if anyone is correct. I do not beleve the sun is as far away as they claimed it is.
@@hjlosada
"Both parallel?"
Yes, both are practically parallel.
If you want to cherry pick, maximum difference between two sun rays is 0.5 degrees,
"how many light sources?"
One light source, of course.
"I though it was 1 so they cannot be parallel to each other as they come out one source poit."
What exactly would prevent two or more rays of light to not to be parallel, because they are coming from one source?!
(Sun is not point source since it has measurable angular size od 0.5 degrees)
"you must be God to judge someone level of education"
No, I don't have to be God. It is enough to be educated, in order to know when someone with less education speaks crap.
"show me with math how do you know the dstance to the sun?"
If you are willing to acquire some new knowledge, and know how to use google search engine, you will easily find couple of articles on internet, describing how some smart people estimated distance of the Earth from the Sun, more than 2000 years ago.
"because some said so?"
Of course not. Science doesn't work because someone said so, but because everything in science can be independently verified.
For example, even without science and mathematics, one can easily say that the Sun is very far aways, and thus much bigger than the Earth is. All it takes is a couple of observations and a little bit of logic.
These were my 2 cents.
Уай аре зэ лотс оф рашенс?
Э лот, ма френд. Э лот...
The sun is inside the atmosphere(firmament) ,go read the book of genesis
You are correct but very very very few people actually see the truth from Scriptures and I am one of those that Yah revealed to...so I am just curious and may I ask how did you come to know...in other words, how did you understand that the raqiya/firmament is more or less the atmosphere and that the sun, the moon, and the stars are in the raqiya/firmament?
I know that Genesis 1 said this but most people cannot see the truth but believe the lies the world tell them...
@@jc2coming My christian brother from Mexico helped me understand and im all the way in the Caribbean I met him on Facebook he started to show my things I never knew about .real science like cymatics sound and vibration and the earth being a torus field and everything nasa shows is cgi and cartoons its never real then I started to look up hebrew cosmology and it all connected, Genesis goes over everyone's head about the firmament but thank Yahshua now I understand.
@@romanodickenson1107 I was a Christian before too until 1 day Yah came and opened my eyes and led me to His Son Yahusha, exactly as He told us in Yahuchanan/John 6:44-45...
I was an engineer and a scientist and I was shock when Yah opened my eyes and revealed the truth to me about everything, including that He created the sun, the moon, and the stars and He put them in the raquiya/firmament just as written in Gen.1 and yet we all believed the lies Satan told us through the human agencies such as Science and NASA. Between men and Elohim who should we believe and though the answer should be very simple just as Scriptures said...'we should believe Elohim and not men for all men are liars' and yet the reality is that the WHOLE world believe men rather than The Words of The Most High our Heavenly Father as Scriptures foretold long ago that
"Behold - Darkness covers the earth, and deep darkness the people" (Yashayah/Isaiah.60:2) and darkness here represent sins and deception and Rev.12:9 confirmed that indeed Satan has deceived the WHOLE world!!! And I as the witness to The Word of Yahuah clearly see that in fact the WHOLE world is deceived except the very few elects mentioned in Dan.12 & Mat.24...
Since then I do not believe anything but The Word of The Most High Yahuah and His Son Yahusha revealed and taught me everything I needed to know just as He promised through His prophets. He taught me not to trust men when He revealed that His Name is not Yahweh but Yahuah and His Son Name is not Yashua but Yahusha and revealed me the Scriptures about His Name and His Son's Name - HalleluYah!!!
I will pray that Yah will reveal to you His true Name too.
May Yah bless you and watch over you and I hope to see you after His return.
NO
You are insane dood
I thought the earth was roundish and the sun was about 93 million miles away but now that you have explained it to me like this I'm questioning if that true. This left me with questions that I never had before.
The math and science will set you free
Its all lies bro, look into sundial and how the sun move, then you probably get your question answered.
The clouds go behind the sun and the moon in real life, brothers and sisters, once you see it size up all the liars in your life
зис ис вандерфул
Лучше говори с нескрываемым русским акцентом как fpv russia. Когда пытаешься произносить правильно - получается хуже и думаю носителям языка такое меньше нравится. Чувствуется натужность произнесения. Нужна наоборот легкость и скорость чем правильность. Пусть нескрываемый русский акцент будет твой фишкой. Это намного лучше и легче будет смотреться, естественней
Смысла нет, лучше говорить так, и через несколько лет он будет шпарить не хуже американца. Тупо опыт
Cool. Pls don't stop to share your material for whole the world.
Ты тоже с русской озвучки?
A lot of assumption
for some peoples knowledge who think sanatan dharmas believe in mythology as history but in reality they actually knew the distance of earth from the sun as its written in HANUMAN CHALISA for many years you should check it
Can you measure the distance to the sun using 2 locations on earth?
Basacially that's what astronomers did in the past when using transits of Venus. It required measurements from 2 different locations. And I also know some amature astronomers who also did their measurments from different parts of the world
Yes, but it won't be consistent with just about any two other measurements.
That would be far too easy and wouldn't involve any dubious assumptions .
@@alanwhitham4 Right you are. What a crock of sh*t. Let assume everything and start from there, "measuring " what we already predetermined with zero testing afterwards, or at best testing if it fits our preset system of assumptions only.
You can measure it from one location.
The rail track example is false Sun Light Cant Bend!
As long as Earth's speed is around 66,600 mph, the distance doesn't matter. We just made it up for a bit of mockery. Not unlike earths tilt of 23.5 or 66.5 degrees. Just like the distance to the stars, its all based on theoretical nonsense.
LMAO sure, if you say so, we should definitely listen to you. What's wrong, are we moving too fast for you?
Brilliant! ;)
Good one
Dunning-Kruger Effect. Well played!
Basic trigonometry debunks perspective in this instance
Basic trig proves the Sun would never set on a flatearth. Case closed.
@@alexf962 flat earth is a separate argument from distance to sun. I am not argueing for a flat earth
Я вообще за такую идею!
Thumbs up (on the video, not my comment) if you also think, that it actually might be great if people like this guy would really be paid or sponsored by NASA), or at least by some science society that cares about bringing Real knowledge to the world.
And yes, that's a proof that Russians don't just drink vodka with bears the whole day...
But I like drink самогонка з галушками every day guy
@@plumpuss9452 happens
You forgot to mention the balalaika
Great video! But I have one math problem that I can not figure out. Maybe you can help. I love how you calculated the distance to the tree in the video using a triangle! I love studying geometry.
Cairo, Egypt is approximately 7580 miles from Los Angeles, California. On March 26,2022 the sun is in Cario’s western sky in the evening at 5pmEET at the same moment it is in Los Angeles’ eastern sky at 8amPST. Both cities are approximately on the same latitude line. Their line of sight to the sun makes a triangle. They are both looking at the sun at the same moment of time with the bottom leg of the triangle being @7580 miles. Angle alpha and angle beta must acute angles……probably close to 20 degree angles or less.
How can the other two legs of the triangle be approximately 93,000,000 miles with this empirical evidence?
SSS TRIANGLE formula.
Thanks in advance!
If I’m understanding you correctly, it’s because you may not be accounting for the spheroid surface of the planet.
The answer is obvious - The sun is not far away making the angle of 20 degrees or less from the observer from Cairo and from Los Angeles. This is the truth The Creator revealed in Gen.1 that He made the Raquiya/Firmament (aka The atmosphere) and He put the sun, the moon, and the stars in the Raquiya/Firmament.
The Creator said He created The Heaven (The First Heaven) and the earth by Day 1 but the sun and the moon and the stars He did not created until the 4th Day...
Question for any intelligent human that believe in The Creator: So what was the earth spinning around before the sun was created?
@@jordanclymer995 There is no evidence of a spheroid planet.
"Angle alpha and angle beta must acute angles…"
When you pull angles out of uranus, your end result must be a complete crap.
"How can the other two legs of the triangle be approximately 93,000,000 miles with this empirical evidence?"
Which "empirical evidence" tells you it is impossible for the Sun to be 93.000.000 miles aways from both locations?!
@@max5250 Agreed. The actual side of the triangle between the two cities is a straight line THROUGH the earth. A straight line lying on the ground between those two cities is not part of any triangle because it is not straight. It is curved because the earth is spherical, and the angle of that curvature is the difference between the almost 90 degrees that the two angles should be and the 20 degrees they are because the line between them should be a straight line.
Comparing light refraction to a railroad 😂😂😂😂 that’s not how it works
“Put in our known quantities”
So we know angles. We know our one known distance which we measured out physically, and therefore we have what we need to solve the distance to the tree. Awesome.
Now, what known do we have when measuring distance to the sun? Has someone done this with the US, from Hawaii or California and Ny as the crow flies underground. We know the size of earth. We can easily get the angles at the exact same time in a live broadcast and figure out the sizes of any planet including the sun.
Ok, can we also measure the angles of the crepuscular rays if we get up high enough to observe them perpendicular like your figures?
I’ve never put any thought into this before.
What if you got two folks in separate parts of town viewing the crepuscular rays, or even three and built a 3-d model of the images.
Круто вышло
Ofigenno!
Its much easier to believe how they measured the sun before I watched this video. Im still waiting on how they find the distance to the sun
🤦 1:45.
Video amazing.
Прикольно, ещё бы на испанском или французском
Кто-то ужe писал, что автор повторяеться на 9:28 и 10:01
What flat earth web site did you get all of those flerf photos from? There is one named Puckett who has used all of those you show.
Четкое произношение, молодец
SOMEONE didnt take trig. not smart enough, huh? dont worry, you didnt miss much.
Thank you 🙋
It's AMAZING!
geometrically wrong. the rail tracks are one line each. not one line together. yeah, perspectively they look like they coming from one point, but realistically they are not. the sun light is coming from one source of light. not two sources converging. if that was the case you'd have duplicate rays coming through at different spots simply because there'd be two sources of light. there is one source of light and it is shining down like a flashlight. geometry is wrong. God says you are wrong also. truth be told the only thing i know for certain is that God said He created the firmament and created the two great lights. they are not no 93 million miles away.
You are blessed for believing Scriptures instead of men...for Scriptures are the truth!
"geometry is wrong."
If geometry was wrong, you wouldn't be typing that clueless reply on a computer, using internet, but you would eventually relaying it using smoke signs...
A GateKeeper
Keep crying, flerf.
Nice!!
Great - 👊🏻
Wow! There is also a channel in English.
What other language do you plan to switch to?
He has a original russian channel (Космос Просто)
@@nickznamya9632 Really? Can't be! :)
@@batonchik555 his original russian channel in link: ruclips.net/user/c%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE
@@nickznamya9632 I still can't believe it! :)
@@batonchik555 ладно, извините.
*Сидит на полу и ждёт японскую озвучку (スペースはちょうどです)*
Можно спросить, почему другие альтернативщики не создают каналы на английском языке. Зачем ему канал еще и на английском?
так комос этож space
very cool stories!
The sun can apear to look as close as a distant tree or mountain. So theres no way this trigonometry is giving the distance to the sun.
All you are doing is demonstrating that you didn't pay attention in mathematics lessons in school.
@@DanBeech-ht7sw all you are doing is showing you couldn't check the equations, so just decided to accept they were correct. Truth is you cant check anything they tell you. You cant identify stars as suns, billions of galaxies, our sun is a ball of fire, etc..... You can only chose to believe. RELIGION.
@@aceventura5398
"The sun can apear to look as close as a distant tree or mountain."
That's true only if your family doesn't allow you to leave your home.
But, when you get out, your will find out that the Sun is not near the tree, or a mountain, or any other object on Earth you can reach.
You will also notice that the size of the Sun is the same, no matter from what location on Earth your are observing it, which is clear indication it is not either local or small.
You can only blindly believe it is local and small, but your religion will still be wrong.
@@max5250 what religion ?
@@aceventura5398
Religion preaching small and local sun, our observations of reality are saying that's not the case.
Kavo ?
The sun is 4K miles above the earth. Using crepuscular rays. This guy is using assumed math formulas.
assumed... he is also amused!
You can use these rays to measure distance
No. You don't to make any assumptions at all to calculate the distance, and it is certainly NOT 4,000 miles away.
I guess the perspective point didn’t sink in. It took me a minute to figure it out, but he is absolutely correct about that. But I do believe we might be able to figure out how to measure by rising up to a point where we can pin point exactly where the rays land on earth, and then measure that, and also make sure you are at a right angle, up in the sky, to be sure in get the correct angles.
If the sun is a star why the sun goes around how we see and the stars in the same spot?
Sun is star, and it doesn't "go around" but Earth is spinning. All the stars move in exactly the same way as expected, due to rotation of Earth.
Trig Proves the local sun !! good try though!
But this video is a detailed explanation of why it doesn't prove that
Trig also proves it would never set but hey, what do flatearthers know about basic geometry?
Go easy on the fluoride !
@@crowdiver Ok do you have anything relevant to Say now?
@@alexf962 Go easy on the Kooaid ! ;0)
Distance to the sun is 4,000 KM. This presentation is wrong.
nope
This is wrong, crepuscular rays prove you wrong. Also, clouds behind the Sun
@@romanm.3529 "clouds behind the Sun"
there are no clouds behind the Sun, its just that flat earthers are too dumb to realize that thick clouds can block the Sun so they appear infront of it and thin clouds cant obstruct the Sun, so they falsely conclude that they are behind it.
If the Sun was below the clouds how can people on an airplane look up to see the Sun at noon? Why can the Sun be visible on the entire world if it is so close and so small
@@HugoFilho. Sun is subjective to the observer, it's just a picture rendered to each based on elevation. You can't deny observed phenomena, otherwise you are denying reality and there is nothing to talk to about with a blind person.
I repeat, there is no objective one Sun shining to all.
It's just a simulation.
Anyone can prove this at home, placing a light source close to slits and noticing the shadows.
Clouds behind the Moon are also observed and cannot be attributed to brightness.
Flat Earther think the luminaries are thousand of miles away, which is blatantly wrong, so they are too wrong on that one
@@romanm.3529
"Sun is subjective to the observer, it's just a picture rendered to each based on elevation."
Denying objective reality and trying to replace it with subjective fairy tales, won't do any good to you or your credibility.
"You can't deny observed phenomena, otherwise you are denying reality and there is nothing to talk to about with a blind person."
Congratulations dude, you just dude the very same thing, tried to deny observable reality.
"It's just a simulation."
Nope.
We can objectively see the Sun, we can measure its elevation on the sky, and time it takes to move.
That's one of the ways we know we are not living on a pizza shaped world, with basketball size Sun above it.
"Clouds behind the Moon are also observed and cannot be attributed to brightness."
When you go out of your basement and find about world around you, eventually, you will be able to fly with an airplane.
When you do that, you will find out one devastating truth, you can always see the sun without any clouds, from an airplane at cruising altitude.
С какой целью на английском?
Because you must ask
Вместо капусты бабло рубить
1. Больше аудитория.
2. Если не ошибаюсь, то реклама дороже для англоязычных видео, следовательно автору с просмотра капает больше денег
Ты что, все в два дубля снимал, на русском и английском?
If the earth is flat and not spinning could someone please explain coriolis force and continental drift
This video does not show how an amateur astronomer can calculate any of the distances to any celestial body - whether the moon, sun, or stars - unless he begins with the assumption that the distance given to the sun (approximately 93 million miles) is correct. In other words, we have to take it on faith that modern science has this measurement right. What if we do not want to take that on faith? How do determine these things for ourselves?
Distance to the Sun is not an assumption at all.
You cannot determine anything by yourself since you are hopelessly uneducated.
I am not sure how can you find your way to the bathroom with such incompetence.
@@max5250 That's not true. I watched a RUclips video on how to find the bathroom and now I can find the way all by myself.
@@vincentmcardell8183
Any amateur astonomer interested in estimating distance to any celestial body, can easily find out how to do that, and perform all the observations needed for that.
You have no knowledge or intention to find out how to do that, but you rather believe any nonsense that suits you.
@@max5250 The correct English is "you'd rather believe" or "you would rather believe" not "you rather believe."
Learn English. It is much more useful than astronomy.
@@vincentmcardell8183
Yeah, right… knowledge of English would be of a great help to you if someone dropped you with a parachute above Russia, or some big African francophone country….
Knowledge is power, therefore learn anything you like.
The moment you try to give advantage over one topic (English in this case) over another topic, you are only presenting your bigotry.
So, you are using your heliocentric model to prove the distance of the sun from earth which the flat earthers doesn't believe in because you have no solid proof of that and it's just a theory.
1. The sun rays coming from the clouds down to the ground making a circular form instead of being totally random in all direction proves that the Sun is in local position within the atmosphere.
2. We can see sun rays on the parts of the clouds that are closer to the sun but not that are far away proving again that the sun is local.
3. At 2:45 you are showing a foolish drawing made in power point instead of using a real-life picture to demonstrate it, tells us that it doesn't hold any weight in the argument.
4. You are just fooling yourself taking the perspective and explaining the sun rays coming from the clouds. This doesn't explain the rays that are coming from the center clouds in the image and going far to the right side. Don't tell me that those rays are reflected on the clouds and again fooling yourself.
5. Stop taking help from NASA to prove your bullshit.
How cute, so perspective only exists when it fits your narrative huh? How convenient. Learn basic geometry and you will see the Sun would never set on a flatearth. Nice try indeed.
@@alexf962 Peace, maybe you should read my arguments again carefully and come back.
I haven't said anything about perspective or anything against it.
What I said that it doesn't help to explain why the rays are not reflected randomly when going through the cloud?
Why the rays having a direction seems to be coming from one point and spreading outward?
@@LoveFire The rays are parallel, if you look for pictures taken from above, you will see this. The question to your last point is still: perspective. Just like rali tracks they appear to converge though being parallel. Nevertheless a sunset proves FE wrong empirically.
@@alexf962 Bro, the rays are not coming towards the observer position from the cloud holes and can't be compared to rail tracks. They are coming vertically from clouds to the ground.
I am not talking about how they are small at the cloud position and getting wider at the ground position.
You are not explaining my points.
@@LoveFire Irrelevant. The flatearth is completely flawed so you must be wrong about anything.
Неплохой уровень английского)
Очень тяжело его слушать
Так то да, но акцент... Впрочем, сделано всё равно качественно.
Please, can you make mathematical proof of of rays angle. Otherwise it is as my said. Do you believe me or your own eyes?
You want mathematical proof?!
Look at these sun rays, the one on the left appear to fall at 45° to the ground, the one in the middle appear to fall at 90° degrees, while the one on the right appear to fall at 270° degrees.
According to the angle of sunrays you can measure at any given location at different time of the day, you are seeing:
- 14:00 (02:00 PM) on the left of the photo
- 12:00 (12:00 AM) in the middle of the photo
- 10:00 (10:00 AM) on the right of the photo
So, you think you could see four (4) different time--zones in one photo?!
Do you have any idea how far apart these four zones are in reality?!
Hint: Couple thousands of kilometres.
These formulas can't b applied on spheres.
Yep. Go back to maths lessons.
Flat earth!!
Подпишусь на этот канал, отпишусь от основного, по какой то причине на английском интереснее
Над произношением правда поработать надо ) говоришь как немец очень строго и четко, попробуй смягчать слова
The sun is 5500 km above earth and is only 51 km in diameter.
ruclips.net/video/A0n6V2H7P34/видео.html
This explanation should put away your guessing.
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@@JacobLM42 🦧
After "covid" I realized almost everyone is ignorant asf. Albert Einstein said "common sense tells us the world is flat".
@@realfrankandrade D u m b a s s.
Nope. Here is the correct mathematics. ruclips.net/video/urgYWNCN-RA/видео.html
@@realfrankandrade
"The sun is 5500 km above earth and is only 51 km in diameter."
When I take a camera and snap a photo on sunrise, and gain on the noon, the size of the Sun is exactly the same, yet the Sun was more than 10.000 Km aways from me on sunrise, and only 5.5000.
If you think an object of 51 km in diameter will be the same size at twice the difference, you should visit your optometrist first, and psychiatrist next.
HAHAHA 😂 OMG
Thumbs down. And no I'm not a FE. You can sit there and trust the radar system and trust the science but have you personally actually built a radar system that will tell you the distance to Venus? Have you actually figured out the actual speed of light? It's cool that you can repeat what the books say but can you prove it? Could you triangulate from where you are at to figure put the distance?
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Distance to the Sun. Once you have that you can calculate the distance to Venus using the smae method. ruclips.net/video/urgYWNCN-RA/видео.html
You don't have to be flatearther to be equally stupid as they are, or even worse.
We accept science not because we must believe it, but because we know it works. You yourself also haven't figured actual speed of light, but you wrote your clueless reply using device that depends on actual speed of light, and is created by the same science your try to belittle.
This video would have been a lot better if it were not so patronizing. I have a loved-one who believes the world is flat, and I'd like to help him without calling him an idiot. I can't share this video
Grown up person, who enjoys all the amenities made by modern science, yet is clueless enough to accept blatant lie that we live ona a pizza shaped flat disk, suffers from some kind of mental disorder, and should be placed under supervision of mentally healthy people.
Your loved-one is an idiot.
Your 1st claim is wrong.
What was the earth spinning around before the sun was created on the 4th Day? For Scriptures revealed that in the beginning The creator created The Heaven (The First Heaven) and the earth but the sun is not created until the 4th Day!!! Any smart ash & dust being want to speak against The Word of The Creator?
I command Satan and all your fallen malakim/angels and evil spirits stay out of this In the Name of Yahuah my Father The Creator of Heaven & Earth and everything in them for I know we are not struggling against flesh & blood but against you who are in the last heaven/Raquiya you have lied enough to human and your punishment will be much more severe than those who you deceived for you had been judged as foretold in Scriptures!
Are you really this brainwashed to believe your book over reality?
@@griseofacies On judgement day then you will know who is right.
FYI - I was both a scientist and an engineer and did believe in the reality until I saw the battles in the unseen world just as Scriptures said!!! And though Satan has deceived the WHOLE world by now just as Scriptures said but he could not deceived me no longer for my Heavenly Father has opened my eyes and taught me everything I need to know...and has given me power over even Satan.
You only have seen 1 side of the coin and learned from the human but I have seen and know both so if you are right then I don't have anything to lose but live a very good and righteous life on this earth anyway...But if I and The Scriptures are right then you are in deep trouble for all people like you will be judged & thrown in The Lake of Fire" along with Satan & all his fallen angels & demons as The Heavenly Father has said.
@@jc2coming
" God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. "
So, who governs the night when there is no Moon on the sky at night?!
The Bible was never written as a guide to cosmology.
It is the truth from The Creator Who knows what He created and where they are rather than men who are proven liars.
In judgment day you will know that The Creator is right and men are wrong and that science is a big lie from fallen angels...
I know because I used to be a scientist until My Heavenly Father opened my eyes then I see The WHOLE world is deceived just as Scriptures said (Rev.12:9 & Isa.60:2) except those who The Father chose to come out of the world...
Flat earthers don't claim your 2nd claim
Ват а буллшит. "Доказательства" собраны при помощи софта написанным человеком 😂😂😂
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You are so triggered huh
@@alexf962 так что там с софтом? Написан по данным НАСА?
@@rluparaNASA has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth. Be less gullible.
@@alexf962 никто не знает форму Земли ясно одно она не шарообразная и плоская как стол. С монеткой эксперимент проверил?
I came here to learn how we measure the distance of the sun and instead get this.... I don't care about flat earth and what they believe. I came here to learn how we measure the distance of the sun. I know....i know he will answer the question afterwards but...
Next....
Seek knowledge in books, not on RUclips videos.
Train tracks is not a correct analogy of sun rays. The tracks NEVER come together as the rays from a far sun wont.
The suns rays will encompass the whole earth. They wont be doing what the tracks do at a distance.
You claim the atmosphere is responsible for giving the appearance of a close sun from rays that have converged to a tiny point before reaching earth...... like the train tracks 😂
Look see the train tracks do it..😂
Building up other people as a straw man doesn't make your right.. just prove what your trying to prove
Your explination for measering the distance to a star was built on knowing the distance between two points in space. How about you explain how these distances were calculated first.
" Oh the tree thing "
The sun can look as close as an object here on earth at sunset. So the suns distance will equal the horizon. A plane can fly past the sun. So the trigonometry would put it 93million miles away. So that nonsence dont fly son.
Absolute rubbish.
Your explinations would only have your ballers going "yes yes " and youngsters who just trust you.
But its rubbish.
So, trigonometry is dead wrong, and flatearthers are right?!
Unfortunately for you, trigonometry has been successfully used for more than 2000 years, while flatearthers are not capable of drawing something as easy as flat map of their flat worlds, with correct sizes, shapes, and distances of known continents.
@@max5250 trigonometry is fine with close objects but you cant use it to measure the sun distance. Its been tried it cant work.
@@aceventura5398
Trigonometry doesn't rely on how close or far objects are, and work perfectly fine, as long one understands it.
The fact that trigonometry give us different results for distance of the Sun from different places on flat Earth, doesn't mean trigonometry doesn't work on great distances, but that Earth is obviously not flat.
After all, we used trigonometry to calculate the distance of the Sun from spherically shaped planet Earth, and we got quite precise result.
@@max5250 you cant measure the distance to the sun using triangulation. A bird in flight could just as easily be stated as far as the sun using triangulation. How could they measure how far one star is to another to set the equation. Its not possible. They are bulshting you.
People say they believe in science when they are believing in SUPPLIERS OF IMFORMATION
You cant be given science. You must do the science yourself. Your placing FAITH in SUPPLIERS OF IMFORMATION. Thats a religion.
Is that a bsa in the background
I've never seen someone speak so much broken English gibberish to not even answer the question of how we can calculate the distance to the sun.