For the Money, This is Hard to Beat! - Czech Military 3 Piece Sleep System
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Luke is here today to review the Czech Military Three-Piece Sleep System; this is an OLD SCHOOL piece of military surplus and that will be obvious the moment that you see the overall design of it. Old school but still very functional and highly versatile. Also, it's inexpensive!
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This is Seriously Cool - Czech Military 3 Piece Sleep System
Agenda Free Link : eBay.com and military surplus sites
Price : This is going to vary greatly; you can find used military surplus for around $40, new is around $90. Those are common prices but you can find swings all over the net. I purchased mine 7 years ago for around $20.
Color : Olive Drab, blue linen and yellow blanket
Layers and Materials :
Nylon Bivy bag - this is a bivy style protection layer that is both wind and moisture resistant.
Linen Liner, this is known as the hygiene layer - it also makes the entire kit more comfortable as you don’t have to come directly into contact with the wool blanket which tends to feel scratchy against your skin.
Wool Blanket
Zipper on the left side
Weight : 7lbs
Measurements :
Nylon outer Bivy with side zipper, 80" x 28"
Linen Liner is 76" x 61"
Wool Liner is 76" x 61"
Features:
Czech military issue
Both liners button together
Temp Rating : Around 35F is my limit with this setup as is; the 3 piece kit, socks, pants, shirt and 40F is good for me. I run hot though so your mileage is going to vary. For colder natured folks, 45F is a reasonable rating.
With good thermal layers and/or insulated clothing, it could be used in much colder conditions.
Review Pros :
Great military surplus value.
Very cool piece of old school military surplus.
Excellent for warmer weather and early fall trips.
Very versatile kit - 40f is my rating for this kit as is but there is enough room to add additional layers; sleeping bag liner, sleeping bag or an additional blanket. A Woobie works great inside of this kit. It doesn’t take much and this is a 10F sleep system.
You can put a sleeping pad inside of the cover under the blanket and linen.
Bulky but for car camping and short distances, it makes sense.
Good compression straps.
Great for emergency use - throw one in the car for winter and you have a valuable piece of gear just in case of an emergency.
Deploys quickly
Good fit for the majority of users.
Easy to pack up
It saved us time and made inspection much easier, so we just unrolled them at night and slept in that.
Easy to store.
Decent amount of space for the shoulders and legs.
Works great on the ground with a sleeping pad or on a cot by itself. It’s thick enough to block a good amount of cold air from underneath.
Good weather resistance - wind and rain.
Not waterproof but can handle some moisture before wetting through.
Easy to take apart and wash what you need to.
Because of the overall design these make great sleeping bag rolls for not only adults but kids as well. It’s a super inexpensive way to gear up for a child or someone who doesn’t camp all that much. As a kid I would have been thrilled to have something like this!
One of these, a sleeping pad and they are set for most of the year.
Review Cons :
If purchasing used, be prepared to wash and possibly repair. Replacing buttons is common.
These are military surplus items and there is a possibility of the military surplus smell. It’s unique to surplus and luckily it does go away with enough use.
Mine was fairly strong when I got it in 7 years ago but it’s completely gone.
Fair amount of air can make its ways through the zipper
Taller and Larger individuals will have some problems here; Too tall and it won’t cover you properly, too wide and it won’t cover you properly.
My tallest buddy is 6’3” and 250lbs and he has no issues with his. I would say around 300lbs and this would be tight.
Heavy
Summary :
To sum up this review, this is a great product but like most things it may not be for everyone. If you don’t mind the size though it’s a versatile piece of kit that’s still fairly inexpensive to find…..but who knows how much longer that will be for.
I’m glad that I own it and I can easily recommend it; it gets my thumbs up for sure.
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I was in force recon unit in Army of the Czech Republic more than 25 years ago... This horrible piece of crap taught me hard way to be proffesional in MacGyvering how to keep every bit of heat... Winters in CR are wet, mildly cold around -5 C (around 20 F) with extremes at - 15 to -20 C (up to -5 F). Being out of barracks in january for 14 days on survival tactics training (basicaly go to woods, be there 14 days, don't die and then come back) with this f..kng thing teached you to value every calory you can save....
Basically it needs one more wool blanket to keep you warm.
I was in Slovak army.We used same sleeping bags.On summer night outside was not enough to keep me warm...
I was living in Prague the past 7 years but have never seen these before. I would love to find two...the zip them together. I'd use a US Army Poncho liner inside for additional warmth.
Been using these for many years. Bought 4 of them back when they cost $12 each. Found that you can open two of them out and they zip into one double size 2 person bag ( almost a queen size). Great for over landing or truck camping the two of us.
Yeah I got a pair of these from Midway years ago and I think I paid literally like $13 for each. They're really comfortable, the feel of the "real" fabric is a lot more cozy than cold synthetics.
I bought one, and gave it to a homeless person. Never replaced it.
My parents bought sleeping bags from sears back in the 70s. Two bags would zip together an make 1 bigger bag almost a queen size as well
That was actually the one question I had...because it's great when you can mate two sleeping bags together. Now I just need to find two of these for a good price :)
@@DL-ij7tf What would the two of them weigh?
I am soldier of the Army of the Czech Republic and this sleeping system is the worst sleeping system I have ever had.
What do you do with the side straps?! I don't understand 😭
It served me well on colleage party sleepovers :D
to je normalne trosku vylepsena raketa ne? jsme v tom spali jako zakladaci :D Fakt strasny v tom spat jinde nez v kasarnach.
I would also love to know what the straps are for, please, please tell us!🤷♂️😁
@@Mat-kr1nf Honestly? I don't know. I used them for better manipulation.
Hi, I used this one on military basic training. Thank god we have a new sleeping bags from Carinthia :D
nooo taky jsem ho používal…. moc nadšenej jsem nebyl 😆
@@timjanda13 nejvíce z raket byli nadšení mazáci, co nás nutili vhorku spát zapnuté až ke krku :-D Naštěstí je to po jedné výměně názorů přešlo :-D PVC 04 Hranice :-D
After so many years of using mil surplus gear, I find that storage smell kind of comforting.
Will also add from my husband: had it for 2 years. Good for above freezing temps, layers stay put, layers easy to remove and wash, can be used as a blanket because it can be unzipped fully, very comfortable. (Also, he says I shouldn't harass southerners/non-Canadians about different terminology - hat, beanie, toque, toboggan, chook, stocking cap, skullcap, Bobble hat, watch cap...)
Phhhtttt! Don't make fun of my Bald Head Warmer😂
I have a couple of these, had them for years now. My experience: for $20 they are cool, kind of like a primitive precursor to the US military sleep system. The main advantage is that the bottom is fully waterproof like a bivy bag (but the top isn't) and you can wash the components. The downsides are that (1) it is absolutely huge and heavy vs how warm it actually is, and (2) it isn't all that warm, period. There is just a single wool blanket inside of it after all.
Personally, I think if you pay $80 for one, you are crazy. For that, you can get a decent, modern 40 degree synthetic bag which will weigh 1/3 of this and fit in a bag 1/3 as big and provide better thermal performance. This is something to throw in the back of the truck for emergencies or whatever, and it really stops making any sense at all once it isn't crazy cheap.
I bought a US military MMS sleep system about 5 years ago and it is my go to sleep system for 4 seasons. I do like to use a bag liner to protect it from dirt and don’t wear any dirty cloths when I slip into for the night. Good review.
That bulky not waterproof …. Ehhh
I'm Czech, and i've spent quite a lot of time inside the predecessor of this sleeping bag used the Army of Socialist Czechoslovakia. It was as good as you said this one is :)
I tried going through the Alps with this one, and minus 10 Celsius wasn't fun :)
Hek! I think i still might have the officers' version (pre 1989) of this bag still somewhere! :) Oh, the memories...
REALLY nice to see , a real world Czech guy , who actually used this !!
You should try the Canadian sleep system. It has an inner, outer, liner, and hood. Good to around -40C when fully combined.
-40 C? Are you sure it's not -40 F?
@@1BeGe I was with the Canadian military and have used it at over -30C.
@@myfamily8194 The joke is that -40 is where C and F meet and are the same number. So at -40 it's both, lol.
I need a -40 when it's around freezing
Our good old military basic sleeping bag. There was another version for Officers which has an inflatable sleeping pad inside. I am still using the blanket from it :). Greetings from Czech Republic!
When I first found this sleep system I thought it was the coolest thing, and bought it right away.
My only gripes; I don't understand the straps on it, and there's no way to make it smaller.
sleep better in sleep-socks and underwear with balaclava and sometimes cotton gloves and toboggan. you could make these with exterior waterproof outers.
Have similar Czech bag with a quilt lining that ties in, canvas on top and has rubberized bottom. Has a better hood arrangement. Love the bag, very roomy for a sleeper who moves around. Kept me warm enough at 45. Bought for $20 like eight years ago. What a bargain.
I have used my British Army sleep system down to -13f in Norway and it was comfortable. Hey are plentiful and pretty cheap. Great quality and the Goretex outer is a very capable bivvi bag in foul weather.
“There may be cigarette burns… these do come from Europe after all”
Lmao 🤣
I would love one of these sleep systems! Very cool. I’m going to see if I can find one locally.
Good bit of kit cost me £10 about 7 years ago! I use it as a hammock under blanket!
I also endorse the Canadian artic bag. Three bags in one. No zippers that will freeze, only wooden toggles. It is so efficient, you sleep naked inside, your clothing trapped between the layers so that too doesn't freeze. THE best bag I have ever used at -20C.
You would need to add a motel room to it to make it warm enough to sleep on the ground though! 😂
I bought one from "Sportsman Guide"...... I loved it so much I bought a second one for my hot tent !!....they are great for using on cots durring the cold season and are made like a tank !!!..... I added a wool blanket to the inside and have a fleece liner also for both !!
How long did it take to get to you. I might get one
the last one took 4 days to get to me
@@woodknotts6050 awesome thanks
I got mine yesterday I'm liking it a tad small and a tad different. Good for the truck though. Thanms
I’ve had one for about 5 years and use a cot to sleep on. I unzip it and use it like a blanket. Add wool blankets as needed when it gets cold. Love it.
Can you , or have you ever just used the blacket and the shell . Without out the wool ? Thanks ahead ... Gubs
A foam sleep pad slipped between the blanket and the outer shell on the back side work's very well and still rolls up nicely.
GREAT REVIEW! I love that it has a wool liner but, I'm not crazy about the buttons, I would rather have snaps. Thank you for the time and research you put into your videos!🥰
A great-looking item/system for ranchers, "cowboys" etc. who need durability and simplicity in their gear. As stated, great for keeping in pickup/work truck, ATV, as part of a trail horse saddlebag system etc.
I have one of those , buy a compression stuff sack , and its much more manageable .
Doesnt look good at all for backpacking . To heavy to bulky
Like it as a cowboy bedroll ..with a extra blanket in it😁
I think hiking sleep bags are more, more better ,due to weigh/ warm ratings
I have been waiting for a long time for the follow up to the sleep system. I have one and I use it all the time. one of my favorite pieces of gear. I very often get stuck at work and get short shifted so I don't have time to go home and come back. I will often use this to sleep between shifts at work.
That think ain't that good , just get a marmot or something else sleeping bag
Sportsman's guide $35
Friend bought one of these years back.. I used it twice. Did not keep me warm at all..
I Bought the US 4 piece, and while yes it costs more (was about 100 when i bought it years ago) it is far superior. Completely waterproof, rated to -40f. Packs smaller, is lighter.
Buy the Czech if you are on a budget and only summer camping, buy the US version if you need more heavy duty gear.
Really dig that helikon anorak brother! I have a pretty solid backpacking Loudoun but I find myself hunting from a base camp often. Basecamp usually is vehicle/overland based so with weight not being an isure I'm looking at camp comfort options and this looks great!
Great Review,,,, But that’s a lot of weight for a 40* rating. Unless you have a sentimental attachment to this system. When it comes to,, “Other then Summer Camping”,, 40* and under is easily achieved. Puts some Serious limitations on the use of this product. Great Review Luke,,,!!!!!
Ha! Ha! These are great for £9 as I paid for mine years ago...great for incidental bedding or car camping in the summer....mind you, you can button in extra blankets......if you can find them now?
i do use much older version this one is based on for 17+ years and also officer version (its very different) but i tend to not use that hygiene (they can be green or green-blue) layer but only the blanket... i get it for like $4 and officer model for $7 but that was when i was basically a kid edit: officer model have a compartment inside for inflatable pad that is a part of the kit
It is a sleeping bag vz.67 (vz. is mark or model ) for basic service soldiers - compulsory military service. The number 67 indicates the year of introduction into use in the army. 1967. This sleeping bag was used for soldiers until 2004. Professional soldiers (officers, sergeants, warrant officers) had another sleeping bag of classic design with a green removable hygiene layer. The sleeping bag for professional soldiers had an air mattress as an accessory.
Since 2005, the Czech Army has had professional soldiers, all of them have sleeping bags from Carinthia, one for light summer and one for winter, the winter variant has a temperature limit of -20 degrees Celsius.
5-6 years back these were all over Ebay UK selling for silly money like £10 each then they put the magic word bushcraft in the listing prices crept up stock slowly ran out, now they're like hens teeth, the same thing happened with Dutch surplus Goretex hooped bivi bags stock everywhere £30 each now even used ones are around £90 + new average £130 when available mind you they are a direct copy of the Corinthian bivi
I can't hardly believe you ever since I watched you describe the Nemo pump sack compared to the Big Agnes sack. You need to straighten that out before you lose more subscribers. Seriously, Tacoma, WA.
I think of the WW2 Army Air Force A-4 Sleeping bag. It down filled and it has a down quilt you can add and it has a linen sheet that ties in and it's huge. I'm 48" chest no the A-4 bag zips up. It has four zippers that you can open anyway you want.
These things were made during an era before they knew how to insulate an inflatable sleeping pad and/or sleeping bag without it being thick-as-fk... I'm from Tasmania in the southern part of Australia which gets down to -10 Celcius, and I am able to stay warm with a modern insulated sleeping pad and sleeping bag which takes up 1/3 the amount of space this thing does... Literally only good for car camping...
I bought one and found out too late that it's too small for me. Took it on a campout and FROZE all night, because being 6'1" and over 250 lbs, I couldn't fit in the bag! I had a long sleepless night sitting in front of a fire. Today the bag is used as a comforter, unzipped, on top of a twin size bed.
Although I would love at least a good tarp witch I don't have money for everything I see you use it just puts me in a wishful thought state of mind ! Lol so I rethink everything and think of how would I want my family and myself ?? Lol strong enough to know self-defense be independent know how to hunt build shelters of sorts if ever separated for whatever reason ? . and know how to stay warm enough for a night to get from point A to point B !? . All these nice hundreds of $$$ things I see Rob people abilities ? Takes there knowledge from them in a way ? . at least that's how it unfolds in my eyes !! Lol
Do you find any kind of cold from the zipper area? The inner layers are not quite cuccooned.
I use CAF surplus mummy sleeping bag system, and everything is a cuccon. It has ties and loops between layer to keep them together.
simple sleeping bag 3.5 kg for 4.4 C degr, omg,... what say Ray Jardine&Emma Gatewood
Got something similar. Made for the swedish army. But the outer layer is canvas. Heavy!!! But I like it
Remind me of the 1940s British Army sleeping bags the the normal soldiers one reminder canvas but no blanket and the officers ones had blankets in them. The canvas could be waterproofed like a tent
Bought mine after I seen your first video. Use it every year for hunting season. Sadly I broke the zipper. Won’t stay zipped up anymore.
"They may have cigarette burns, they do come from Europe after all." Are Europeans seen as prolific smokers in the states? I thought the Japanese held that title :)
Great item but nowhere to be found. Thank you for all your hard work by providing priceless valuable reviews.
I'm a day late because I was not notified about your video brother and hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and your family
I love the military surplus smell.
,,,,,,,hi,,,,,,i have one of these,,,,but got rid of the green sheet,,,,,,the base of it is water proof,,,,,and i got a fleece sleeping bag liner which i had a 3/4 zip put down the centre and put a roll mat under the wool blanket ,,,,,,,and when its all rolled up you can slide a tarp in the hud along with a few boil in the bag meals and a hexi burner then just hang it on a shoulder strap ,,and hang your mest tin and cup off the strap aswell,,,,,, all ready for a night in the woods,,with a compleat sleep system and food just carry your water in your hand,,,,,,,,,done ,,,,,,,,love the vids,,,,
why is military gear meant for smaller folk. im 6 foot and thats not that tall. is everyone in the military smaller? 6 foot or 6 foot 2 is a common and regular height. every day i see people so much taller then me. just a wondering. i dunno about 6foot 3. it looked like it fit luke very well. it looks to fit his size nicely. doesnt look for alot of other folk who are taller or wider,. it looks great but i at 6 foot keep buying military gear and have a hard time fitting with a good fit and room to spare. its always a tight tight fit. uncomfortable. the mss system is so tiny. they look great for 5'9 to 5'10. this bag looks the same.
For 100 bucks you can buy a new sleping bag that is 4 times smaller and lighter and can go to temp below than 4 cel. If u are in the military you buy the green or the brown one. This was used in world war 2.
Only my opinion but useless,the weight to temperature rating is terrible,you would be far better protected with a decent sleeping bag and a British army goretex bivvy.
27 inches wide seems a bit snug to me... particularly at the shoulders ($100 here in Canada)
Goretex military bivy fan. Stay warm, stay dry. They shed the rain while letting condensation out.
It’s just a junk complicated cheap sleeping bag. Their much better equipment out there.
I got two in a set for 60 dollars finding them after seeing your first review of one. One missing light liner I gave to younger great nephew who loves it. I've used mine a few times love it. But wish it was wider am side slipper, and have not found anything that really fits me well in single sizes. That side works, and I do love it, and made it work the best I could for how I sleep. Got something else rated for a lot lower temp, but I keep this one handy just in case my go to bag. Power out just yesterday for over 6.5 hours, was like camping in the house. Had it ready to go if had to sleep without power.
These do come from eastern Europe as surplus. It may have Adidas stripes drawn with a white paint pen, folks.
So, in a nutshell its just poor performing bivy sack with a built in blanket that is massive and heavy?
Does anybody know what Jacket Luke is wearing in this video. I like the way it looks and I'm wondering if he's ever done a review of it?
And will keep your CZ handgun warm too. The Czech make good stuff.
This would be good to have in the car for emergency use - the wool blanket would double as a fire blanket. Wool blankets aren't cheap, either.
wow ! so good !
It's an interesting piece of gear...like a highly modified wool blanket. Very cool if not especially practical.
Luke we have a grade system in army surplus world in uk grade 1 is very good condition grade 2 is good and 3 grade is rough and grade A which is nearly new
I got one in new condition a few years back . I love this sleep system ! But with that being said , it's not the best in cold temps . The three piece U.S sleep system is better.
I luv military surplus so I know that smell awesome peice of gear Luke....
Do you know we're I can get sponcer for my hike I'm doing my hike on the north country trail for the cleft palate org
Luke I got one about 7 years too. I like it my son was 16 he liked it so much I never got it back.. lol
Great stuff! It’s cool you can always add layers in there if you need more warmth. I love these military surplus reviews!!!
I've had mine for years and love it. Easy to clean, add a blanket for extra warmth if needed etc.
Hey Luke where is a good place to be looking for some of this outdoor military surplus gear?
Normal People: it's a cool sleeping system.
Me: It's a tactical caterpillar!
Way too bulky
Your body heat will go back in the sleeping bag reflect back because of the shiny tin foil
I have one of these. I like to keep it in the truck in case it is needed for any improptu overnight stays in it. It isnt very warm though.
I have two of these. Both are dated 2001. Mine has the green blanket with tan trim. Anyway on the inside of the bottom half of the shell there is a waterproof coating. On one of mine that coating has completely done the sticky thing that happens when PU breaks down. It doesn't stick to the inner blanket but it's definitely got that sticky/greasy feel. The other one is just starting to do it. At some point I am going to have to try and figure out a way to really get rid of that coating. Maybe next summer I lay it out in the sun and see if it will dry up and crack after a few days. That worked on a pack I had that did the same. Anyone have any good ideas other than scrub it out by hand with naptha or the like?
Every piece of military surplus I own smells like cheap cologne.
from the storms Arkansas Missouri in Kentucky did you get a bad up that way
I added a thin wool blanket to mine. I cut button holes and fit it right in. Did not seem to ad to weight or bulk.
I got one in a swap, without the linen layer. Luckily I found a German site selling the blanket and linen layers for peanuts, brand new, unused. I got a new blanket and two linen layers.
THANKS FOR THE TIP: use two linen layers to add a bit of warmth or to have a change of sheeting on longer trips!
Hay Luke and susie.i hope you guy's are staying .safe out there ..can you tell me the best hot tent to get ?
Any help locating a few of these? Extremely hard to find.
Good stuff man, good equipment and you're really good at your reviews keep it up.
i think instead of smell you should use the term stank, more appropriate :)
Why not the USMC sleep system?? From USA military ….Snugpak sleep system is pretty dang awesome as well..
Sounds great !! I will need to get two of them when I can. Thank you for all you do !!
It's an 8 pound non-waterproof square mummy bag.
What do you think of the USA military sleep system?
Vz. 67 sleeping bag, if you're looking for one ;)
My friend. A toboggan is a type of native american sled.
i bought a couple of these and i use them for drunk friends after a night out.
Put tin foil shiny side up and duct tape the tin foil down then put the sleeping bag on top
sucks the zipper is on that side. I would love to throw that into my bivy.
I don't get it. Heavy and bulky and seems to basically be an oversized and overly complicated sleeping bag. You don't get a pad and it's not water resistant so you still need a shelter. How is this in any way better than e.g. a Snugpak Jungle Bag (50 GBP or so new, weighs maybe 1/3 of this)?
This thing is from 1969 mate, i dont think there was any Snugpak Jungle Bag at that time. Our officers had version with air matrace since 1962. Army in that time did not care about its soldiers. Up to 5 % of mortality _ in peace_ during training was tolerated.
I haven't used this system be I have the Marine corps version