Thank you for this interview. I enjoy Derek Muller's videos and appreciate his techniques. This video gave me even more appreciation for why he does what he does.
As a linguist, it's interesting to hear his accent fluctuate more and more as the Australian interviewer gives him questions - bringing out his childhood Australian influence.
This man right here has truly been enlightening. I have seen that by using his method I can teach even myself topics that I, as a student, may have wrongly thought I knew.
we have to get rid of the idea that someone who doesn´t know the answer is dumb. I Think this comes from us grading students all their live. instead of trying to grade them teachers should try to teach. Grades dont push a student as much as when you convey fascination for your subject to them
Of non-medical PHDs, his thesis is number 102 in how influential it has been to shaping his life after the degree. I'm really glad someone has taken such a thorough look into the effectiveness of Mr. Rogers vs. Khan
Derek's videos help viewers to feel like they are part of the experience. As such, his videos are more inclined to be watched all the way. In some cases, his content is understood enough that even I learn stuff. :D
Wow, he really knows what he's talking about. I didn't know he had a PhD on what basically is "How to make a good science video." Also, boy can he sing!
Your selling yourself short ***** People like this love to educate and curiosity is one of the best conversation starters on the planet. You may surprise yourself.
lol...when watching any of bradys videos, i feel that when they (the guest) look at the camera for a majority of the time...it makes me feel that brady is behind it holding it awkwardly for hours on end. i dunno...i just get a hilarious mental image of how contorted brady would be 'imagined' to be. lol. dont get me wrong, i love his videos and his camera techniques.
Yes and no. Brady's videos usually aren't quite as broadly topically conceptual in the same way; they're often focused on a particular small idea or bit of information and then pull it apart in great detail. For that sort of video there's fewer misconceptions to overcome and when going into great detail on a topic you can overcome what few there are. Derek is covering more broad topics without as much detail, and that's where it becomes important to hang a lantern on people's misconceptions.
You have to understand that a lot of people are not educated and half of them that are, do not understand it! But you have great ideas and charisma keep up what you're doing I'm not knocking it! I just stumbled upon the video because my name is Derek too.
In computer programming there's entire FAQ books written on 'gotchas' which basically catches the wrong assumptions or wrong expectations of intermediate programmers and examines why exactly they mismatch with reality of programming. Only when you understand the 'why' (under the hood internals) do you get a mental model that more closely matches with the real system rather than an abstract mental model based on assumptions and expectations.
Essentially keep things simple, but not to simple. I Like Derek's approach to his videos, please keep it up. All these awesome science vids motivated me to go back to school and take science again. So congrats it worked at least once.
He doesn't make people look stupid. All he does is ask questions. If anybody does look stupid (I don't think they do), it's because of the answer they give.
Experienced teacher now. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink", if its not already thirsty, was an old way of looking at teaching and learning, but my Grazier Father in Law said that if you didn't lock up a herd of new cattle away from water for three days before you let them out, they would all set out for the country in which they were born and raised. Obviously the Education system is designed to cause a similar desperate thirst/hunger for something really valuable to learn, once they get out in the real world..(?)
Nice interview :) I'd like to see a video collaboratively made by Derek Muller and Sal Khan... I think, the strength behind Khanacademy videos (and this is still a real work in progress) is that you have a million videos about the same topic over and over with slightly different approaches and you also get automatically generated exercises along them. The exercise is probably more important to improve the conception given by the video.
I would conclude that you know more than his target audience. He stated that more knowledgeable people won't learn as much and it will be more of a review.
Of course- if he went to someone in the street and asked about laplace transforms he'd just get funny looks. People don't know what a laplace transform is so there are no common misconceptions. The point is that when trying to lead people to a full understanding of a concept you need to start with where they are- in the case of laplace that would generally be a blank canvass, for Newton's laws people often "know" them incorrectly. Different styles of video for different topics and audiences.
inertia, people understand the concept when you explain to them what it is, many people may not know a name given to a certain phenomenon, however i believe the importance is understanding the concept not the name someones given it.
Brady Haran ,surprisingly, has a tone of condescension , which is what I feel. Derek is doing a REALLY GOOD JOB, Infact he has made, unwittingly so , a very important contirbution to scientific learning and pedagogy.
No Brady, it's not sanitisation, it's the scientific method. A video about the measurement of the physical world can be measured, to some degree, to evaluate its effectiveness. Art is assessed and critiqued regularly. At least this process produces objective outcomes.
look people in the street are not the same as people searching for science videos on the internet, people from the street that you bump into have significantly less chance of having any knowledge about things you ask them.
i think people dont learn from expository videos because they dont have value to them, so they brains save resources and not invest in the rewiring needed, but if they see people looking stupid for not knowing physics, then they have a social incentive to spend the mental resources needed to remember/understand, and people watching a video with a specific purpose do learn because they already have they own incentive. (sorry for the bad english lol)
As a kid I always assumed everyone did know how everything worked. Guess that's why I becoming a physicist now. I can't stand watching any of his videos, people always ignore common sense staring them right in the face.
+Himaya Jayasinghe the INCH has been defined as exactly 25.4 millimeters (as of July 1959). Which makes a meter equal to 3.28 feet OR a foot equal to 0.305 meters. Remember that neither unit (or entire system of measures) is related to or derived from the other so any equivalent units in either system will most likely be some decimal fraction of each other.
LOL . It's not his *goal* to make people look dumb. He does not feel people are dumb. But still it seems an inevitability. As long as you have something to learn you will look dumb when confronted with this 'new stuff'.
There are often certain low level of significance involved in RUclips comments. Derek has taken the comments a bit too seriously. However this was a great interview, he provided very smart answers to this topic!
isnt he basically bashing brady's way of teaching people? all of brady's videos are 'here are the facts, clear and concise', which derek says here is a bad way of teaching interesting
It sucks to see so veritasium talk about getting a phd as if it is a small phase ... while I'm here struggling with first year of undergrad math. Sigh.
Not really since Brady asks .... questions; i was going to say 'dumb' questions but that wouldnt be fair- if Brady says 'isnt that like so and so' and a scientist says 'no, not at all, because of such and such' thats at least approaching the kind of 'teaching the misconceptions approach Derek is talking about. At least i think.
Brady made quite a clever analogy when he mentioned the realtionship to marketing. That's because ofthe nature of communication. There is no one effective way to communicate because any attempt at information transfer must consider the pre-conceptions, pre-dispositions, judgements and all the rest of things that will get in the way of the information. Try walking up to a black man and trying to express that ou understand how difficult it must be to be black. Fuck me in a rational world it's absolutely true. Statistically, slavery had made it so difficult for the black race to get up, we basically screwed them over. Then education and opportunities and all the rest get in the way. But your naive approach at being nice will probably earn you a punch in the face. Because you did not consider his attitude towards the matter at hand.
Derek grew up in Canada, if I recall, so he sounds pretty much like someone from southern Canada or the northern USA. His family is originally from Australia, though, and I think he lives there now.
From the looks of it he could just shave off his beard and start a boy band!! Banned Science?!! ;-) Seems like he grew a beard to be perceived as a "serious" physics guy!!
When demonstrating Earth and Moon distance ... Instead of a Basketball and a Tennis ball, why not a Soccer ball and a Softball ... still not accurate but closer to the actual size ratio which might not make people look so dumb ... JMHO Try it again and see if you get the same results
"You have to start where they are" Something not everybody understands... Excellent.
This aged well he's making absolutely phenomenal content rn
I love how Derek’s videos are all about enhancing “understanding”
Thank you for this interview.
I enjoy Derek Muller's videos and appreciate his techniques. This video gave me even more appreciation for why he does what he does.
As a linguist, it's interesting to hear his accent fluctuate more and more as the Australian interviewer gives him questions - bringing out his childhood Australian influence.
Close, but not quite. It's the other way around - he's a Canadian in Australia.
@@franzliechtmann6447 he grew up in australia
Dumb isn't not knowing, dumb is not learning. Derek makes people look not dumb :)
It was Derek's camera! ;)
About that - why do all these interviews have a time marker on the bottom? It just doesn't seem to have any significance.
Just read his thesis (the whole thing), absolutely brilliant work.
This man right here has truly been enlightening. I have seen that by using his method I can teach even myself topics that I, as a student, may have wrongly thought I knew.
we have to get rid of the idea that someone who doesn´t know the answer is dumb. I Think this comes from us grading students all their live. instead of trying to grade them teachers should try to teach. Grades dont push a student as much as when you convey fascination for your subject to them
This is such a pretty shot Brady. The background and lighting is superb.
Watching a video about the science behind making videos about science.
Of non-medical PHDs, his thesis is number 102 in how influential it has been to shaping his life after the degree. I'm really glad someone has taken such a thorough look into the effectiveness of Mr. Rogers vs. Khan
Great interview Brady!!!! I would love to see more of these in depth interviews in future :)
Derek's videos help viewers to feel like they are part of the experience. As such, his videos are more inclined to be watched all the way. In some cases, his content is understood enough that even I learn stuff. :D
I can hear the inner Australian
Wow, he really knows what he's talking about. I didn't know he had a PhD on what basically is "How to make a good science video." Also, boy can he sing!
The passion of an intellectual man
Would love to have a proper conversation with this guy.
Your selling yourself short ***** People like this love to educate and curiosity is one of the best conversation starters on the planet. You may surprise yourself.
lol...when watching any of bradys videos, i feel that when they (the guest) look at the camera for a majority of the time...it makes me feel that brady is behind it holding it awkwardly for hours on end. i dunno...i just get a hilarious mental image of how contorted brady would be 'imagined' to be. lol. dont get me wrong, i love his videos and his camera techniques.
I think Brady could really teach some news anchors how to ask questions!
He's ridiculously gorgeous. Hot. Beautiful. It's intimidating and it's only a video. 0.o
He has a ridiculously symmetrical face. It's honestly kinda distracting how beautiful he is...
Sweet baby Elvis, 3 new Brady videos. I'm not sure I'm ready for this at 6 A.M.
I absolutely love your work.
Yes and no. Brady's videos usually aren't quite as broadly topically conceptual in the same way; they're often focused on a particular small idea or bit of information and then pull it apart in great detail. For that sort of video there's fewer misconceptions to overcome and when going into great detail on a topic you can overcome what few there are. Derek is covering more broad topics without as much detail, and that's where it becomes important to hang a lantern on people's misconceptions.
This Dirk fellow is rather pretty.
+ufojo Dirk from Veristablium
I thought he was named Derk...
You mean Kirk from Venezuela?
You have to understand that a lot of people are not educated and half of them that are, do not understand it! But you have great ideas and charisma keep up what you're doing I'm not knocking it! I just stumbled upon the video because my name is Derek too.
In computer programming there's entire FAQ books written on 'gotchas' which basically catches the wrong assumptions or wrong expectations of intermediate programmers and examines why exactly they mismatch with reality of programming.
Only when you understand the 'why' (under the hood internals) do you get a mental model that more closely matches with the real system rather than an abstract mental model based on assumptions and expectations.
HAPPY NEW YEAR DEREK...
Thank you for the link!
Essentially keep things simple, but not to simple. I Like Derek's approach to his videos, please keep it up. All these awesome science vids motivated me to go back to school and take science again. So congrats it worked at least once.
wow my youtube experience just changed a lot
He doesn't make people look stupid. All he does is ask questions. If anybody does look stupid (I don't think they do), it's because of the answer they give.
I can't believe I just heard Siyahamba... This brings me back to choir in High School.
It surprises me how few people get the reason for the way he does it even though hes explained it so many times.
Derek is quite the handsome fellow!
please tell me I'm not the only one who spent then entire video watching the time ticker going up...
I like how the top two comments are about his beard XD
These are the frames - 25 pictures in a second are displayed for too short a time each for the brain to detect it's not a moving picture
Experienced teacher now.
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink", if its not already thirsty, was an old way of looking at teaching and learning, but my Grazier Father in Law said that if you didn't lock up a herd of new cattle away from water for three days before you let them out, they would all set out for the country in which they were born and raised.
Obviously the Education system is designed to cause a similar desperate thirst/hunger for something really valuable to learn, once they get out in the real world..(?)
He puts fun into what is often seen as facts, figures and abstraction- my opinion.
A lot of educational channels have inspired me (all of Brady's, 1veritasium, Vsauce, Sci-show etc).
Nice interview :)
I'd like to see a video collaboratively made by Derek Muller and Sal Khan...
I think, the strength behind Khanacademy videos (and this is still a real work in progress) is that you have a million videos about the same topic over and over with slightly different approaches and you also get automatically generated exercises along them. The exercise is probably more important to improve the conception given by the video.
Just keep in mind that he's talking mostly about the US audience
AND TO EVERYONE...
it would be better if the annotation links opened in a new tab
I follow Veritasium since quite a bit of time and I never heared him singing and I feel lucky I didn't. Derek, please, don't do it ever again.
I would conclude that you know more than his target audience. He stated that more knowledgeable people won't learn as much and it will be more of a review.
5:50 I am going to be using that info later on for sure.. interesting find..
Of course- if he went to someone in the street and asked about laplace transforms he'd just get funny looks. People don't know what a laplace transform is so there are no common misconceptions. The point is that when trying to lead people to a full understanding of a concept you need to start with where they are- in the case of laplace that would generally be a blank canvass, for Newton's laws people often "know" them incorrectly. Different styles of video for different topics and audiences.
I'm going to go read his thesis
inertia, people understand the concept when you explain to them what it is, many people may not know a name given to a certain phenomenon, however i believe the importance is understanding the concept not the name someones given it.
smart & handsome! the world needs more like him
Brady Haran ,surprisingly, has a tone of condescension , which is what I feel.
Derek is doing a REALLY GOOD JOB,
Infact he has made, unwittingly so , a very important contirbution to scientific learning and pedagogy.
No Brady, it's not sanitisation, it's the scientific method. A video about the measurement of the physical world can be measured, to some degree, to evaluate its effectiveness. Art is assessed and critiqued regularly. At least this process produces objective outcomes.
Nice RUclips I was only 7 years late.
Maximum Derek
why is there 25 smaller bits in one second?
look people in the street are not the same as people searching for science videos on the internet, people from the street that you bump into have significantly less chance of having any knowledge about things you ask them.
Imagine Derek without a beard. There it is.
please for god sakes make the annotations open in a new window...
i think people dont learn from expository videos because they dont have value to them, so they brains save resources and not invest in the rewiring needed, but if they see people looking stupid for not knowing physics, then they have a social incentive to spend the mental resources needed to remember/understand, and people watching a video with a specific purpose do learn because they already have they own incentive.
(sorry for the bad english lol)
You are not alone with this, but now if you go to Wikipedia, a nice picture is there about the scales.
i am reminded of TLO
25fps?
I think those should be the frames per second...
it's shows how long the video's been running, Jim
As a kid I always assumed everyone did know how everything worked. Guess that's why I becoming a physicist now. I can't stand watching any of his videos, people always ignore common sense staring them right in the face.
I thought the same thing
huh?
Derek! You are so hot!
He has a PhD in philosophy or something. His PhD dissertation was on teaching science.
I'd love to hear the song - made by a real trio or a choir :-)
I was like "about 10 paces!" and then he did 10 paces, lol.
what is the real measurement for the meter vs foot? how much is the meter?
+Himaya Jayasinghe the INCH has been defined as exactly 25.4 millimeters (as of July 1959). Which makes a meter equal to 3.28 feet OR a foot equal to 0.305 meters. Remember that neither unit (or entire system of measures) is related to or derived from the other so any equivalent units in either system will most likely be some decimal fraction of each other.
LOL . It's not his *goal* to make people look dumb. He does not feel people are dumb. But still it seems an inevitability. As long as you have something to learn you will look dumb when confronted with this 'new stuff'.
Derek looks so stoned, lol.
25 frames per second i think
There are often certain low level of significance involved in RUclips comments. Derek has taken the comments a bit too seriously. However this was a great interview, he provided very smart answers to this topic!
isnt he basically bashing brady's way of teaching people? all of brady's videos are 'here are the facts, clear and concise', which derek says here is a bad way of teaching
interesting
We live in a world dependant on Science and Technology, in which, hardly anyone knows anything about Science and Technology. - Carl Sagan
2:29 to 2:41 ... that thought process is simply *_evil_*
Smart and cute guy..nice to have a son like him :)
I think you mean dirk from verutsium
+ccyr429 Derk from Verstablium
+Jonathan Diaz Dork? From vertibalsium?
He sure has a wonderful beard though.
It sucks to see so veritasium talk about getting a phd as if it is a small phase ... while I'm here struggling with first year of undergrad math. Sigh.
TheyMightBeGiantsHereComesScience
Not really since Brady asks .... questions; i was going to say 'dumb' questions but that wouldnt be fair- if Brady says 'isnt that like so and so' and a scientist says 'no, not at all, because of such and such' thats at least approaching the kind of 'teaching the misconceptions approach Derek is talking about. At least i think.
Brady made quite a clever analogy when he mentioned the realtionship to marketing. That's because ofthe nature of communication. There is no one effective way to communicate because any attempt at information transfer must consider the pre-conceptions, pre-dispositions, judgements and all the rest of things that will get in the way of the information. Try walking up to a black man and trying to express that ou understand how difficult it must be to be black. Fuck me in a rational world it's absolutely true. Statistically, slavery had made it so difficult for the black race to get up, we basically screwed them over. Then education and opportunities and all the rest get in the way. But your naive approach at being nice will probably earn you a punch in the face. Because you did not consider his attitude towards the matter at hand.
What kind of accent does he have?
Derek grew up in Canada, if I recall, so he sounds pretty much like someone from southern Canada or the northern USA. His family is originally from Australia, though, and I think he lives there now.
Does Derek only film the stupid people?
From the looks of it he could just shave off his beard and start a boy band!!
Banned Science?!! ;-)
Seems like he grew a beard to be perceived as a "serious" physics guy!!
That Derek Muller, he's so hot right now.
Durhk from Veritaserum
Mmmm.... Bokeh....
The acapella was cringe.
Great questions Brady. In my opinion, you revealed this man's charlatanism.
"I mainly do physics but sometimes chem and bio"
They're all the same, dude.
I just can't like him. I've tried and tried, but I just can't seem to do it.
Why not?
He doesn't seem genuine to me. Like a plastic man, or a youth pastor.
He has a PhD in teaching physics online? Of all the education videos I've seen I learn the least from his videos.
Blah, blah, blah... Take it off!
When demonstrating Earth and Moon distance ... Instead of a Basketball and a Tennis ball, why not a Soccer ball and a Softball ... still not accurate but closer to the actual size ratio which might not make people look so dumb ... JMHO
Try it again and see if you get the same results
khan hate