These British voters tell us why they want their country to leave the European Union
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2016
- Britain will hold a referendum this Thursday on whether the country will remain in the European Union, or become the first nation to leave it. The nation is split on its vote, and in the run-up to voting day, opinion polls remain close.
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April 3rd 2021. 3 months after UK left ...
I would love these same people to be interviewed now for an update on their opinions!
Don’t blame them, they believed the lies the tory party and Murdoch media spewed.
@@wolfiesmith7674 What are you on about.!
No regrets on my part.
@@rosemarywoolley8394 pension triple lock unlocking itself ay rosemary? Looking forward to that are we? 🤣🤣🤣
@@ffi1001 What on earth are you on about! I really don't have a clue. Please explain so I can answer. Honestly you and wolfie need to speak English.
just by judging on likes and dislikes under those two video, it's clear that UK leaves
The globalists will never allow it. The vote will be rigged for the 'remain' camp. Just watch.
+A D I agree it is a big scam
+A D lol good
More people will vote to leave but the vote polls will say stay won..
Like/Dislike bar means nothing... People all over the world can like/dislike the video.
As an American I must say, this popcorn is tasty.
rofl
The Brits are probably thinking the same with Trump and Hillary.
So true its scary.
I feel like we're being set up. Like after this election some major changes are going to take place and news media is creating the divisions necessary in society so one half of the population can blame the other half. Instead of everyone blaming the people actually responsible.
+Will Hall
yeah man, it does kind of feel like a set up...No matter who is elected, half the country is still going to hate the other half and be angry about anything that happens
"Regain our position as 5th biggest economy in the world..." and as soon as we leave the EU we lose 124 billion from our FTSE 100 companies, the price drops and France over takes us as 5th biggest economy in the world = We definitely secured our position, good on you.
Plus our triple A rating completely disappeared, so now borrowing is much more expensive.
Well France hasn’t overtaken us as the fifth largest economy and Germany is being regarded as the sick man of Europe
So short sighted.
@@thestockfother how so?
Wow this didn’t age well.
@@dtotti because UK is literally dying right now with no fuel and workers for thier Trucks
@@Hater20X There’s been a HGV driver shortage for the last 15 years, it has nothing to do with Brexit.
I suggest you listen to what the HGV drivers theme selves have to say, rather than spout some nonsense you found in a tabloid.
The Brits were never truly in the EU. They had their Pound instead of the Euro. They had border controls instead of Schengen. They had the British rebate and had not to pay all the Europen Taxes, unlike all the other members. They were the main actor on EU eastern expansion and later they feared the people from eastern europe at most.
Now they complain at most but they forgot all the benefits they have gotten. Enough is enough!
I think its good for the EU if they leave. Maybe not for the economy but for the political system.
I fear just that they never leave completely. After they were never truly in, they might be never truly out ... A nightmare!!!
You forgot to mention the stitch up of the key European Commission positions between France and Germany and the failure to change the CAP, which accounts for 40% of the EU budget. Its hilarious to hear French complain about the rebate, when even with the rebate our net contribution far exceeds The French. Meanwhile Germany has gotten rich off the back of the rest of the continent due to low exchange rates and zero fiscal transfer. They even got rich off the erozone crisis by fucking over the Greeks. I have nothing against Europe or even some form of European integration but the EU is clearly not fit for purpose.
@Harry Bell What about immigrants do you love millions of refuges and immigrants comeing in your land and
makeing british people darker and darker by mixing with you
@Harry Bell eh i loved old britian and france they did not had this many foreginers in there countries and were true christians now both are atheist immigrant countries
@Harry Bell Countries like Poland are against immigration
i think EU should fall and we should create better union
You talk as though the UK has one opinion. The same Brits that wanted Eastern Europe in the EU were the same Brits that wanted the UK in the EU.
Tbh not a single solid argument.
can say the exsact same thing (or more) for the other vid. It's down to pro's and con's
***** Rean Combrinck Not a single solid reason? A Brexit would be an economic disaster for Britain and the world economy in general. The UK still hasn't recovered its momentum from pre-GFC levels. It doesn't need another hit. Share markets in the last few weeks have last billions just from discussing the subject. Not to mention the UK already elects its own politicians, and is subject to its own laws. The UK it the most autonomous country in the EU as it already is.
Not to mention a Brexit would mean 3.6 million european migrants would have to leave (because immigrations laws would change). Again that would destroy the labour force and Britian's economy. The main argument of the leave campaign has been fear mongering, and scapegoating refugees (as the far-right always seems to do). The reality is there is no legitimate reason to leave to the EU (most of those who do are nationalists and ignorant fools wanting nothing but 'national pride' to begin with). Lets see how well ''pride'' will do you when your economy goes to shit.
+Ain't no Slice so please tell me, how is this relevant to our topic that discusses the specific oppinions of the people interviewed in the video above? the point is the general public is voting yay or nay on emotion, not reason.
Rean Combrinck This comment was more directed at zac, but the point is these people are voting against all common sense and reasoning. You think 5/6 people on both sides are going to represent the actual opinions? When Actual political and economic experts choose, you'll see there's no coherrent argument to leave the EU.
The argument is Britain can trade with more nations around the world and close its borders and deport illegal migrants as it should if it leaves
Ask them what they think now
What we wanted to happen has happened. We have now set up trading deals with Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the rest of the world, we can now make our own laws free of the beurocracy of the EU, we can control out own waters and we can trade openly with the rest of the world. So what’s your point? Trade blocks like the European Union create unequal flows of trade, capital and people. Trade between EU countries is open leading to a disadvantage for poorer countries who want to do trade and people who want to enter EU countries it is a lot harder compared to EU citizens. The European Union is a horrible organisation that only seeks power and control to create more global inequalities while keeping a bubble of Wealth in White Europe.
@@nick-her9275 by leaving the union your economy is crashing, and if you wanted to trade with developing countries, you could already do that! look at Germany for example, and don't get me started on the inflation.
@@nick-her9275 AND THE CROWD STANDS AROUND EXCHANGING AWKWARD GLANCES🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
But they never THOUGHT in the first plàce did they !
@@nick-her9275
So how is this magic plan going so far ? ? ?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaàaaaaaaaaaaaww !
The EU was made to help the banks make a profit by lending to them on account of the Euro. The British were very smart keeping the pound.
***** I was curious as to how much of the profits from the making of the euro went to British banks.
This_is_my name You guys are in trouble then. Can't see anything good coming from this.
People are too worried about the financial situation. It was the same with the Scottish referendum to leave the UK, the tactics of people in the stay campaign both times have been fear-mongering the possibility of economic decline.
People are overly selfish and don't realistically think of the future. They'll plod along in their own little bubbles until someone comes along with a pin, which for the majority of the UK isn't even a possibility financially speaking.
Oh well, if the UK stays the continuous rise of the right and far-right movements will gain more traction. Same thing that's happening around the rest of the western world. People are slowly giving up on the ideals of the left and caring less and less about others. Hooray.
No it wasn't. It serves many purposes - Germans benefit from "lesser" countries in the union because that keeps the currency low while at the same time Germany subsidizes these countries significantly (same for Netherlands).
Kollin actually the EU was Made to have stabel and peaceful Europe. It has achieved that ober the last 70 years! :)
Coming at it as a business owner I don't really agree with some of the comments on this video. Being in the EU is not stopping world wide trade at all. I hear politicians say that once we leave we can trade with the developing world but they fail to say that we can do that already and countries like Germany have up to 250% more trade than the UK with places like India and Brazil etc. As part of the EU we have free trade with 27 member states and over 70 other countries with whom the EU has trade deals and we can trade under WTO with the rest as Germany does. The idea that business are happy to walk away from that to avoid some so-called EU red tape is just nonsense. The fact is the EU in terms of GDP is the 2nd biggest market on the planet and whatever 'red-tape' is there now will still be there once we leave the EU. If UK companies want to trade into the EU they will still need to comply with 100% of the rules/regulations they do today. Yes the UK goverment will now have the option and freedom to diverge but in practice UK companies won't be. UK companies will end up following both the EU rules and any new UK rules. So more red-tape than today! I know that the army of arm-chair business experts out there say forget the EU and set our sights on the rest of the world and become like a buccaneering nation of Elisabeth I but its really nonsense. UK companies can do that now and its not the EU holding us back its something else. 80+ percent of our economy is in services and is not bound by the restrictions of the customs union so the UK could be forging trade deals in services tomorrow. But trade deals or not there is nothing stopping the UK doing what it wants regards world trade right now.
I think you reserve more than 3 likes. You need a whole interview.
How is your business doing now?
@@yannikoloff7659 Mixed. We had one businesses sales drop by about 30% because of Brexit and then Covid conditions forced total closure. That was a physical product's based business. On the services side one business I'm involved with simply relocated the Euro aspect of it into the EU zone. So the Dutch get the corp tax from that now! It's simply far easier to operate within the EU and be based there than navigate the barriers that have been erected. Sadly the folk in this video, whilst their thoughts might be well intentioned, simply don't know what they are talking about regards trade.
we should pick our own leaders says the country with a royal family
one step at a time.
the royal family doesn't rule uk.
+Carlos Linares you idiots still finance their life, literally slave tier bs
+Yuriy Bilousov the amount of money the Royal family generates through tourism across Great Britain is somewhere near 3 times the amount spent on their lifestyle in taxpayer dollars. They're a benefit to the country.
***** lmfao, I'd like to see those figures how much those "zoo" attractions generate tourist revenue. You really undermine potential of UK historic and landscape sites if you think tourism is encouraged because of the bunch of royal shits
When the EU controls the taxes on your countries tampons, then that's a bloody disgrace?
@Marlene Duvall So, it's a good thing?
Yes...
Dont worry it doesnt whatsoever nor did it ever
The UK controls the level of VAT on goods and services, not the EU. Years all nations have to have a VAT system to be a member, but how much is taxed is the country's decision.
Watching this video 5 years later and laughing at how utterly clueless every last one of them was. I wonder if they've learned their lesson or they are stubbornly sticking to their position after the shortages, the price increases, the devaluation of the Pound, etcetera.
They believe what they want to believe. It's only when it starts messing up their daily lives is when they reliase their own mistakes.
@@hamsatd "When I voted for the Face-Eating Leopard Party, I thought they were going to eat OTHER PEOPLE's FACES! Now that a leopard ate my face, I feel I have the right to complain." It would be funny if it weren't also affecting people who knew better.
Still crying Dan 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 !!
5 years on 😂😂😂😂
It's individuals like you that made me glad we voted to leave....
@@johnappleby9698 I see your reading comprehension skills are as poor as your decision-making skills. Ask a friend to read my comment (slowly) to you, and then to explain what it means in terms even you can understand. Make sure you take a nap afterwards.
EU did so good with their vaccine rollout, also going back down to lockdown. Get a grip.
1:20 Sure the EU spent more on defense and control over refugees than asylum, but remind me which country lobbied against the Mare Nostrum project and has one of the lowest refugee intakes in the EU?
YOU ARE THE 5TH LARGEST ECONOMY BECAUSE OF THE EU! Don't you realize that major companies are in your nation for access to the EU? When you leave so do your majot companies. LAYOFFS!
I for one would vote for a civil war to really settle this issue
Since that would solve everything
There is war in other parts of the world but uk's problem is "am i in or am i out?". Some struggle with horrible things in Europe and outside, but UK's big problem is answering "Is Britain part of Europe or not?". I feel like this nation acts like the spoiled child of Europe more than anything. If they, past biggest empire ever, can't manage to live with other people, I'd say it's a bit hypocritical, but rather have them out fast without so much noise. Trump election also in USA, so I guess it's something funny with the English this year.
I'd love to see the Libtard left army try swinging a punch hahaha
+Mystic Mark It's called a joke
It worked for Ukraine :D
Before the EU, the UK was broke, now it’s the 5th largest economy in the world .......but fish
Hey! That's unfair!
You forgot the blue passports.
And why were we broke? Oh yeah a war caused by mainland Europe!
We appreciate that, but it is limiting our growth now, we want to trade with the EU and maintain a close relationship, but we are contributing much more now than we are getting back. We will be able to go out and trade with more of the Commonwealth without tariffs and taxes imposed by Brussels and trade with the EU. The EU works for many countries in mainland Europe, but it doesn't for us. That has been solidified by the fact the EU has given us awful deal after awful deal and shown no respect for our democracy or people. We are now thinking as a country, it's time to go (even if the EU make it impossible and horrifically expensive,) whilst we still can.
@@oniondesu9633 and the fall of the empire?
Well this video has aged badly!
They talk about being more free to trade with other countries, but is that true? Trade deals take forever and I don't know how likely countries will be to draw up these deals just for brits
It'll take a while to leave the EU, during that time there'll still be trade with them. At the same time, the UK could work on trade deals with 85% of the rest of the worlds economies. Then if the EU does decide to punish the UK (and their own markets) by not giving them a trade deal, the other trade deals should have been signed by then.
So remind me how you can't trade with other countries now?
Siezemore
no ones saying that. they're saying it costs a lot more money and has crazy regulations when trading outside the Eu. (these are Eu regulations for the most part).
you know that eu needs brittain just for the economic. if they leave eu gets a huge economic blow and can cause crisis in the union.
"At the same time, the UK could work on trade deals with 85% of the rest of the worlds economies. "
And how many of these 85% are right next to the UK on a map?
By person.
1) We do have politicians that are accountable (as much as any are). We elect MEPs. So we hold them to account. I'm going to assume she's talking about that bunk about the commision being appointed, but they don't vote for legislation, they suggest it. MEPs vote on it.
2) We do have control of our own borders. Have you compared how many refugees we've taken in to, I don't know, anyone else in the EU? If they're talking about EU citizens (oh no) freedom of movement of EU citizens would still be a requirement of the common market, which everyone has said we'd still want be in, for what should be fucking obvious reasons.
3) Actually one of the better arguments I've heard for Brexit. Fair enough.
4) Confidence? What the fuck is he talking about. That's not how trade or treaties work. Yeah, people will want to trade with us, but we have a hell of a lot less leverage than the entirety of the EU. Most of the things people are complaining about are agreed by-laws of treaties we'd still have to abide by to have that trade. "Confidence" has fuck all to do with that.
5) Sanitary products, because as if the Conservatives would have tried to do it on their own, had they not known there would be bureaucratic lag in the EU. A government that has cut public funding to a variety of public services relied on by women. If we weren't in the EU, the government would have dragged it's feet about it. The fact we're in the EU, just means we have to hangle with the other governments to reach a consensus. The end result is likely the same.
6) Sure, if you ignore all the data on the subject. Theres a reason a large portion of the NHS is taken up by foreign citizens and low and behold, that's not a low skilled job. Apparently EU citizens not having to apply for a visa is racist against people who do have to apply for a visa.. so what would British citizens not needing a visa? Is that still racist? What about people from commonwealth nations that we give preferential treatment? What about any specific treatment any country gives to any other regarding visas? Oh no wait, that's how diplomacy and treaties work.
7) I agree with this guy about the austerity. On the one hand you have the EU being "in it together", but as soon as money comes up, the national banks and the IMF want austerity, which I've never quite understood, especially given that most economists say it doesn't work. However, we aren't one of those nations in the shit, so it doesn't really apply to us. As for the refugees and the borders, if you think that wouldn't be even worse if there wasn't an EU, I don't know what to tell you.
8) More waffle about "unaccountability" from someone who hasn't bothered to find out how the EU functions.
9) Stronger how? Anyone that knows anything about economies has said the economy would be weaker. It's our own government that wont close tax havens and loopholes that we control. We have gerrymandered seats and we have the house of lords and we have first pass the post and a country ruled from London, for London. That's not changing if we leave the EU.
10) What?
11) Literally no idea what she's talking about. You think that maybe we created the EU to make all those things easier? Gee, I don't know. "Trade with other countries" as if we don't already.
Fucking hell. I wouldn't mind if people had arguments based in reality, but the simple fact is that the vast majority of people who intend to vote leave have absolutely no fucking idea what they're talking about. The only guy I can concede points to is the third guy.
thank you! :D
*****
Not being bothered enough to find out who your representative is, is not an argument.
I hate to break it to Boris, but the population of the UK is shrinking and aging and economies at a very basic level rely on a growing, or at the very least a stable working population. That's why we have more net immigration from outside the EU than we do from inside the EU, not because we have an 'open border' and 'everyone wants to live here' but because the economy needs it so visas get approved.
How all these people voting Brexit think pensions are going to get paid if we see a massive age demographic shift and a labour shortage because of a lack of births and no immigration is beyond me. Maybe they should go look at Japan's economic predictions over the next 35 years to see what a shrinking and aging population, and xenophobia get you.
The only way Boris' waffle about less immigration is going to come to pass is if Brexit damages the economy enough that there isn't a high enough demand for labour, or he's going to make immigration so difficult the lack of labour will be what damages the economy.
As for the "points system" or whatever new insane requirements they want to add. Do you know that under the current rules for getting a partner visa in the UK, they have to earn more money than 50% of the working population of the UK? I've a friend who married an American. She couldn't stay in the UK like they wanted to and get work as a teacher, because the minimum earning amount required by the visa is higher than the starting salary. So now they're both in the US, where he got a visa fine and is working part time while he finds a better job and we're down a teacher.
*****
Alienation my arse. People don't care unless it affects them directly or because some rag has told them they should be angry about something.
It's out of sight, out of mind, until it's not, then suddenly it's the EU's fault for not being flashy enough to hold someone's attention? Please.
A lot of good points, my issue is not that MEPs are unaccountable, it's that they are essentially powerless. If the EU want to be democratic they must allow MEPs to put forward legislation. You seem to dismiss the EU commissions exclusive right to put forward legislation but it gives them far too much power since any legislation which is contrary to their position simply won't get suggested. If they like the status quo but people want change, they can overrule the entire population of the EU by simply not allowing MEPs to vote on legislation which would allow that change. They can defeat any bill or law(or the idea of such a law) by not suggesting it.
This is why democracy is stupid.
Not a single argument to leave makes any sense in the real world. These people are beyond deluded.
Let them leave. We don't need them. But Scotland would be a nice replacement.
Haha that's a good comment! Britian will just Jill itself, let them die alone if they want to xDD
youll miss us dont lie :*
a salad We will, sure. But it's not for me to decide.
5th biggest economy on the planet, contributed to the EU courts of justice and human rights what country yer, be better gone right.
Nathan Warrington Never said it's better for them gone. But if they don't want to be part of EU anymore then they should leave. They should not have a special status within the union.
Now the uk is going to have lots of taxes lol if only those guys saw what would happen in the future
Everyone will have taxes due to Coronavirus... If you're European and support EU, Google the shitshow that is going on over the vaccine. The EU was in charge of ordering the vaccine and fucked up so good luck getting one as UK has ours ordered hahahaha
@@JohnRick Well, who is laughing now:D
@@jonz8482 I'll admit they got their act together and thankfully got their vaccines but at the time it looked a disaster. Trying to vaccinate everyone where ever in the globe is a good thing. Also like to add, I like the EU as an idea, electing a direct president would go a long way for long term stability for the EU.
All these leave campaigners seem oblivious to how much of a mess our country was in before we joined the organisation that became the EU...
Britain has been a part of a unified Europe since the 1950s. Of course the country was in a sorry state back then, EVERYTHING was destroyed in WWII and had to be rebuilt. Meanwhile the US took over all of Britain's economic power because they were not industrially affected by the war.
Autoimmunity I'm not talking about post-war. I'm talking about the 1970s, when restructuring in the rest of Europe had been going well, and we were still in the shit pan. Do you think Britain was worse affected than Germany or France?
imbecilik I'm actually American, but from my somewhat limited history knowledge, there was an economic recession in the 1970s. Britain was more harshly affected by the recession due to the adoption of a "welfare state" type mentality after WWII. The EU had nothing to do with Britain's slow recovery.
Well our country has got worse since we have been in the eu.
Charlie Craig Well, that's simply factually wrong. Our country was in the shitter before we joined the EU (or, I should say, the EEC). A huge reason for our position as the "5th biggest economy in the world" is down to our position in the EU. Kiss goodbye to that now.
I hope they leave
Back in the 40's we still had an empire.
+falloutftw216 you occupied lands basically
+falloutftw216 until wwII and almost lost to Germany. Until the US had to come and save Britain, Europe and Asia ass.
Calvin Baez I don't think you get my point. I'm saying that in the 40's we had the ability to isolate ourselves because we were still a global power. Now, however, we aren't, and we can't afford to isolate ourselves because we aren't strong enough.
ahaha where'd u learn that? typical american comment get over yourself.
Not one intelligent argument. Should interview them again...see how many of them realise how wrong they are.
All lied too and they believed it!
The intellectual gap between those who wants to leave and those who want to stay is incredible. The people voting to leave have actually done their research and know exactly what they want and why.
Stop taking drugs in the morning please
BuddahMonsta. Lol, you joking right? Economists overwhelmingly support staying in the EU. A large majority of Brexiters are nationalists and the far-right (we all know how ''intelligent'' those two groups are). A member of UKIP even states they wanted to leave because they didn't want ''Experts telling them how to live their lives''. Utter idiocy. Boris Johnson is the figurehead of the leave campaign, what a Rhodes scholar he is.
How's THAT working out ?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaww !
Have they ever heard of tarrifs?
Not a single person in this video is in business. Didn’t agree with a single comment.
IF we leave wont there be an issue of trade tariffs? It all sounds good that we'll be able to trade more 'freely', but any imported product that comes from the EU would skyrocket in price.
Short answer is NO, Britain will only trade with blocks that are ONLY in the interest of Britains people, this simply because Britain doesnt actually trade, its British business that trade, its British businesses that will be able to seek global partners and operate within OUR own rules, these rules will be ONLY in our favour, if ot turns out the rules put up against us are not n our interest then our business will be in a position to trade elsewhere, the EU forbids this. full stop. we are FORCED to trade in this single market as our goods have to meet EU regulations by EU law, therefore we are tied, unfair !
VOTE LEAVE....Today
you all still got the US and Canada
Nobody knows how they can "trade freely". It was just a brainwash... Most leave voters (not all) have never been to London in their life let alone travelling and getting involved in import / export... They believed what the Sun said.
Well this certainly didn’t age well
That is the first time I have seen tampons used as an argument to leave.
Oh, there's also the misinformed, confusing wheelie bin colours and having to wear a hard hat on a building site arguments too!
2:14 "...young people forget that before the EU, we were able to travel to various different EU countries..." ( born 20 years after joining EU )
I hope she enjoyed the student exchanges and years abroad. There won't be any more
OMG HAVE YOU NOTICED HOW SMART THE BRITS THAT VOTED TO LEAVE ARE??? They are all coherent and give good reasons why they want to leave. however on vices other video where they interviewed people why they wanted to stay, they were just like," duuhhhh it's 2016, duuhhh uhhh the right just made the wrong decision."
omg britain was saved just in time
relaxing cat Wow, i was just thinking the same as your comment. How refreshing to see this.
Tpviper I don't want the pound to drop though. I would like the UK economy to be good.
All of these scumbags are half the reason the UK is the slowest growing in the g20 and growing down the wrong path 😡.
Still think they're smart??😂😂
leave!
will be funny seeing your economy decline
-all other EU nations
The Eu would do far worse without the UK than the UK without the Eu.
no
yes i heard greece just laughing at how britain's economy would be sooooooooo much worse than theirs if they left....
if britain leaves the EU will crumble
The GDP and Economic growth is high because the UK is in the EU. The EU-migration is bad for all EU nations. Don't be so naive.. Think about the consequences.
The people voting to leave seem more informed and better overall from these 2 videos, honestly I'd leave.
Britons! Vote for sovereignty and self determination! Not plutocratic bureaucrats in Brussels!
Scots! Vote for sovereignty and self determination! Not plutocratic bureaucrats in London!
Welsh! Vote for sovereignty and self determination! Not plutocratic bureaucrats in London!
Tell that to the english, who've had to suffer a succession of appalling scottish prime ministers.
you can't spell for shit, but you got the right idea!
But the UK never gave up sovereignty.
0:16 wtf yre you wearing? a potato sack?
can't trust vote to someone who can't even buy coat of appropriate size
You are making a judgement based on his attire, not simply an observation.
White Fox if you can't buy cloth of the right size then how you can decide anything for the whole country then? gotta learn basics first. And yes expect to be observed and judged in real life outside of your sterile bubble of mom's basement.
Yuriy Bilousov You are the one that said it was an observation and not a judgement. however, now you are trying to say it's both. Stop acting like you are an intellectual.
What if the man with the jacket too big for him is poor? What if it was a "hand me down" from someone larger than him? Yet you want to deny him his vote.
Lmao that guy was such a tool. Wth is he talking about brainwashing for?
I always found it amazing how a country can ignore all of its good traits and risk all of them just because they hate immigrants...it’s a testament to what was achieved on the immigrants side. I really think the terrorist attacks over the years swung the vote, the English were just sick of immigrants. I’m from Ireland and if Irish people kept attacking England over and over I would understand an animosity developing. Personally I would have voted remain but only because I have witnessed actual recession, actual bad times in Ireland, England’s recession was like a picnic compared to ours. I’m always sad that English people never just stood back and looked at their absolute steam rolling kick ass machine that was their economy, but then again it’s easy for me because I have witnessed other economies before theirs, it is a shame that they didn’t know what they had in the palm of their hands.the leave voters that is.
1:14 so we don't see the nasty side of the EU and how they treat refugees? So please enlighten me how the BREXIT movement doesnt want to get out of the EU so they can close the borders almost COMPLETELY not only for refugees but any foreigner who could potentially replace a Brit doing his/her job poorly?
You are the country after the U.S. who has engaged the most in military combats in the middles east and are therefore second most responsible for the huge amounts of refugees. Meanwhile, you are the country who is least affected by the current streams of refugees in the EU and you are STILL bitching about how you can't close the borders to your liking...
This argument can only come from people who think they still live in "the great Empire" and shall therefore not bow down to anyone and do what they want. Get a reality check really and don't pretend you would treat refugees any better, bloody hypocrite!
Why should British workers pay the price for the poor situation in the Middle East? The Syrian civil war started without any US or EU intervention, and is the prime cause for the number of migrants. The migrants in Africa are fleeing from warlords and tyrants who took power when the Europeans gave their African colonies independence.
Why should Europeans have to pay for people who are fleeing their countries in times of crisis, rather than fight for their freedom like all European countries have had to do in the past century?
Thats not what I meant in my post above. One might argue like you that "we shouldnt have to feed the world" or whatever....maybe...
BUT the guy in the video claims that the situation in the mediterranean is "the ugly side of the EU", suggesting that the UK would never treat refugees as badly, while in reality the UK is one of the least involved countries in Europe concerning the refugees and people are still claiming there is too many of them in the country....so you are most likely to treat refugees even WORSE than the EU, probably more like Australia and just deport the refugees to some other countries or outright shoot their boats, so acting as if the UK would treat refugees any better or more humanely or whatever is pure BS since you dont want ANYONE in your country except wealthy tourists who leave after a few days.
3XX0N I'm American, so I'm looking at this with a more distant perspective. Here in the US we've been dealing with illegal immigration of unskilled workers for decades from Mexico.
You say that the British are being hypocritical for treating refugees poorly / not accepting as many as other country. On the contrary, the British see what has happened in Germany and Austria and they DON'T WANT IT. Why the hell should the British care about what the Germans think? This is the whole reason being in the EU is hurting Britain, because they have to answer to foreign opinions instead of voting and thinking for their own country.
Again, they are entitled to do whatever they want, but claiming that the EU treats refugees poorly while they wouldn't even let them in their country (for whatever good or bad reason) doesnt make sense. That's what I'm saying.
If you are too scared of terrorists, sure, lock up your borders, but dont tell other countries that they treat refugees poorly.
+Autoimmunity
The ability for you to go to the store and buy that cheap steak, chili peppers and milk ect. is SOLELY dependent on cheap Mexican/latin american labor. Without them, no middle class person would do them, making EVERYTHING more expensive.
There's a reason large corporations and businesses that rely on those massive cheap laborers, don't want a more restrictive border.
I'm just saying the labor benefits many people, including u.
you can do it. RUN!
We directly elect MEPs to the European Parliament who make all our laws, so how is that undemocratic?
well the funny thing .one might argue that your system is already undemocratic giveb the fact that you have a queen
This aged like fine wine.
Aged like vinegar. If only someone could have possibly known this would be a bad idea
@@DontTalkShitAboutTotal vinegar? By no means. We all knew this would happen and it did so yeah it aged well unfortunately not for you guys. I have British coworkers here in Europe struggling to stay here, the lucky ones got an exception but they're in a limbo and kinda breaks my heart cuz they have families now and most of their relatives were pro Brexit.
Britain never had any intention of staying as they never even adapted to the EURO currency? Long live the Pound
Hmm - prefer Bitcoin!
Fuck Bitcoin, I prefer Ethereum.
john son of Morris, The writing was on the wall when EU currency was rejected, we’ve never been enthusiastic members of the European Union.
I'm an Italian man, and I'm really interested from what you do... But please, Could you put the captions in your videos, please? Thank you so much!
If you touch the screen a logo saying cc shows at the top right side. Click on it and captions will turn on.
Hope this helps.
It doesn't seem like ppl know why the UK joined the EU in the 70s..
It was simply because it's economy was failing, not to long after they joined it's economy started to pick up and now ppl want to leave how does that make sense??
Well how is that working out for you lol....
Economy will fall, chance of recession and no health care abroad incase you injure yourself IF we vote to leave. Sorry buy I'm staying.
No it won't
+Agent Smith I don't agree but u wanna elaborate?
"Chance of recession" what? We're still in recession and dealing with the effects of the 2007 crash. You can get private health insurance like every other fucker?
I'm middle of the ground, I and the large majority of the UK don't have the intelligence to circumnavigate any of it and so I don't think I'm eligible to vote basing it completely on my idiotic opinion. I continuously go against the opinions of friends to make them see the other side.
But the fact that sooooooooooooooooooo fucking many people are 100% in their ways is what's been so troubling about this whole thing. I mean there's never been ONE point where the Stay campaigners have said "well I get that Immigration does have it's immediate downsides and there is a possibility that the EU does make it a lot easier for migrants to come to the UK. However I believe the possibility of economic negatives far out-weigh the slower immigration negatives".
It's either "they're wrong, look at these numbers - be afraid" or "look at these famous people that agree with me" and that goes for BOTH sides. Both sides are filled to the brim with people that wait for someone to show them a good point and then they sheepishly blabber that point across Facebook, Twitter or RUclips.
The whole thing is a joke.
Guess you're not. However your country will be far stronger alone. Britain only needed the EU to get over the financial fallout for WW2. They should of left when they payed the last check to the US.
I'm not British nor I live in UK but no matter where you live never trust the politicians! what every they say, do the opposite!
Jesus, the small-minded idiocy of these people is stunning.
Dear brithish! If you can have a chance to vote then leave! The EU screwed over my country too when we joined. If there ever be a Huxit (Hungary), I will wote for leaving.
We literraly have it worse then before we joined the EU.
Joining the EU was one of the biggest mistakes my country could have made.
Brithish? its Britions :P
Kirz94
The UK then.
I am not an english speaker.
csaba toth If you're talking about "british people" its Britons just so you know :P
Kirz94
Understood!
Dont be a jerk.
Funny how they don't show any of the UKIP racists etc. And at the same time try to make the EU look like the racists ones as a reason to vote leave. LOL.
How is UKIP racist?
"BRITAIN FIRST M8 FUKIN MUSLIMS INIT BRUV" How aren't they racist? Bunch of idiots that need to be put on a small island and left there.
UKIP is your only hope. -Norway
Alfarjamie or they just want controlled immigration and not more broom experts
Islam isn’t a race you prick.
One hundred percent agree with all these young people, we have lost our way in the world thanks a great deal to the party that we expected to support the wish of the majority. Sadly the rest of the political groups offer nothing to achieve their wishes.
The irony of the U.K. wanting to leave a union that isn't very beneficial to them...
They're hypocrits
@@euphoriaggaminghd stop talking rubbish
Yes leave the EU
Amazing..aged like fine wine
the music playing in the background is amazing. What's the title of the track?
2 by 4 pipe
That black dude raised a good point. Whether your European or not should have no bearing on your chances of immigration
To blame the economical problems on an entire group of people sounds familiar.
What a bunch of totally misguided brexit muppets !
@MsMissy Brexiteers are just brain dead. Not working out well at all is it !!
the brexit will destroy the uk
Even if it does the UK will still be better off than Bosnia 😂😂
@@deoa6817
This comment didnt age well lol
And in 2020 we haven’t even secured a deal
I made this comment 3 months and u comment now 🤦🏽
This has aged well, smh
The EU doesn't care about you and you have no democratic influence over it as an individual.
Please watch Peter Shore's speech from 1975 on the matter. From a channel called "Master Brew".
Five years after these interviews :shortage of workers all over the country,no fuel,no basic products on the shelves at the supermarket,new health tax…✋👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Now in April 2019, it would be interesting to find these people and ask them again the same question. Their answer should be interesting.
Watching these videos back in October 2019, I feel guilt as a remain voter that I didn't do more to challenge these ignorant people.
Wow, that was a salad of arguments.
If you care so much about democracy, I would advise you to put some more energy into getting rid of your House of Lords.
whats to say they're not next. But the house of lords doesn't propose laws. It does act as a handy check on some of the governments more outrageous ambitions.
The Lords are there to keep the Commons in check. In fact, many people think they're more in touch with the people and it was the House of Lords that saved us from the Tories grabbing more money off of us.
The issue with the EU has always been a Tory strategy.
They will sign the agreement and exit the EU. Following that, the EU will be blamed for the NI problems and will be obliged to modify the deal. We'll finally have our cake and eat it. BIG MISTAKE The deal will not be changed and the UK will loose in any trade war.
Most Eastern Europeans worked for you in factories so most stuff you eat in grocery stores are because eastern europeans work hard jobs you dont work. And most of them leave so food prices will rise and who gona work this jobs? Young brits dont want to work such jobs.
God this is so interesting to watch as an American. Crazy to see things are tense as fuck over there as well
Leaving is not racist, the true racists are those that wish to remain, when will they open their eyes and see that the world is out there not some closed shop like the EU. More investment and more jobs in the UK, why can't Labour and the Unions see that. I am glad that you voted out we should never have joined or stayed, let down by corrupt politicians, business leaders and large corporations, Get out and stay out let the other 27 sink if they wish.
Now I have heard bullshit before but your comment absolutely tops it all
bye bye eu
scarshotsTV Bye GB, we will not miss you
Byeeee
Good luck 😂😂😂
Guy at 00:22 knows it! If this referendum has made me realise anything it's that all the young voters who want to remain haven't got a clue!
I see the people who want to leave the Eu seem to be a more sane and coherent with there argument with possibly a little bit patriotism. unlike the ones who want to stay in Eu.
they are repeating the propaganda. and one of them are vindictive - trying to justify his choice by "breaking up the EU with his vote" . this is why many Europeans have a very low opinion about the UK since the referendum.
Adam White, Britain was always reluctant members of the EU, the U.K. used its right to veto & opt out options more than the other 27 combined.Patriotism is ok, but the rampant jingoism of the Brexiteers is hard to justify.
After watching this and the stay video. I noticed the people in this one make an argument on why they want to leave. the other one just had a lot of people going on about feelings.
TheGM The leave campaign was entirely based on feelings. Remain focused on topics like the economy and the uncertainty that leaving the EU would bring. For example, The Royal Economics Society backed the remain campaign.
@danbarreda Economics, and freedom for the common man. The freedom which let's you cross Europe and get jobs in other European countries with relative ease. There's also the benefits that working collectively on intelligence and other things can bring.
In hindsight a lot of the “arguments” presented in this video are lies or misleading. We elected EU officials to the European Parliament to vote on laws, the immigration system within the EU is different from what an immigration system typically is, we don’t send £350 million per year, and the EU are abolishing VAT on sanitary products.
Stay in the world, leave EU restrictions
Thank you Vice for this and the opposing view video you did. (had to search for it manually). I appreciate balanced and fair coverage; sometimes it feels like VICE leans a bit liberal, but overall, good stuff.
So what is wrong with being Liberal?
adjective
1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"they have liberal views on divorce"
2.
relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Similar:
tolerant
unprejudiced
unbigoted
broad-minded
open-minded
enlightened
forbearing
permissive
free
free and easy
easy-going
laissez-faire
libertarian
latitudinarian
unbiased
impartial
non-partisan
indulgent
lenient
lax
soft
Opposite:
narrow-minded
bigoted
noun
1.
a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
2.
a supporter of a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
"classical liberals emphasized the right of the individual to make decisions, even if the results dismayed their neighbours or injured themselves"
0:57 WTF LOL
Can’t wait for less employment rights, lower wages and unaffordable health ‘insurance’ thanks brexiteers 👍
Your avatar says ‘power to the people’ but you want to be powerless because you think it means ‘less money’
Yes, you are a remainer
Ahead of Thursday’s referendum, VICE News asks British voters why they're voting to leave the European Union.
Watch "Why would Britain leave the European Union?” - bit.ly/28J6HPl
UK....not Britain ! Do you even know the difference ?
+Margo Macdonald let me help.
Britain is eng wales
Great Britain is eng wales & Scotland...add N Ireland & that's the UK,
Its the UK that's the EU member, not Britain 👍
+Margo Macdonald Tell that the people who call it 'Brexit' and forget about N. Ireland then.
Didn't I say already Vice? The Rhodok conscription policy is just turning regular ole Calradria into a Swadian police state.
+Batman Jr. Correct ! the funny thing is, Scotland & N Ireland are pro EU.
Could the writing be on the wall for the UK ?
Any updates on current times of where the benefits are being seen??
Pro tips: "do not destroy others countries near you when you do not want flooded by immigrants and refugees!"
Didnt age very well didi it
That first girl is mad fit! #BREXITFORLIVE
the only part i agree on here is the fact that we dont get to vote on the E U level. no one gets a vote on who the president or controlling party is. just a local council. what the fuck. thats not a democracy.
00:12 Harry Potter really let himself go.
look im an italian i know better then enyone thet the imigration is a problem but why leve togheter we are stronger end recer just think about a federal europe we could crush the american the russian end the cainese plese i beg you ask to your politiscian to return in the european union we miss you after all you are our dear european brother end we whuld do enithing for you just give us a chance to talk and we can setle things
from your dear itali to our european brother
I'm from the U.S. And May I say It's good to have anoher free country making it's own choices. ;)
How are you not trading with other countries? Didn't China just recently visit and signed multi-billion dollar contracts. Isn't China a country outside the EU?
Let's be honest, the real reason why Brexit was actually proposed was because the UK people are fed up with muslim immigrants who keep getting let in but have no desire whatsoever to integrate or show any respect for the country's values and laws, but for some reason the UK government keeps trying to bend over backwards to appease them. The people saw what has been happening in Germany and Sweden and said no, we don't want to have to be forced to take these people.
I'm happy for them.
Yes, I'm really glad, 5 years later, that we got rid of all the bureaucracy and we can trade just as easily as we did before we joined the trading bloc. I wonder how many of these people realise how much they were lied to.
oh so this isn't propaganda?, bias enough?
In what way? Im guessing you didnt see the "stay" video?
Neeno Brown as a matter of fact I did, but ironically enough most of the comments called it propaganda, but in this video most comments actually call this the "real truth" how's that no bias
***** So in what way do the viewer comments on youtube have anything to do with the video being bias?
He's being sarcastic. He means that a lot of people on the other video are commenting things like "OMG PROPAGANDA!!" or "FACK YOU VICE NEWS YOU BIASED PIECES OF SHIT!!", but on this video, people are not commenting those things (or at least not as much). So what he means is: Oh, so a video in favor of your opinion is unbiased and not propaganda, but a video against your opinion is biased and propaganda? He just wants to show the hypocrisy of the comment section.
21Vincent12 And what im saying is the comment section only reflects the viewers opinion...not the video. As for the people's opinions well...everyone has them and perhaps the ones watching these 2 videos feel more strongly for one then the other. The word "bias" does not apply.
The vote Leave arguments are far more coherent than vote Remain.
Eu is good should have stayed
It's not perfect far from it but British notions of the 'good old days' and 'Empire' etc are just pipedreams that have gone never to return.
Looking back I’m glade we left
The British public voted to leave!!
Not for deals. So the government should stick to that
Let's get on with it we are sick listing politicians
i wonder how many important clips have they edited. hmmm.
1:00 an then all the european immigrants like italians or germans than work in the UK? in Italy we call it "fuga di cervelli" skilled workers go in the UK to start buisness