Supercharger Pulley Talk: Which Setup Works Best For You!
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I'm glad you Fellas covered this.
Definitely didn't know which route when going stage 2.
The ratio explanation helped a lot.
Thanks!
Thanks for going over this! Currently awaiting install of my 57.75 and using 034’s stage 2 as I hear should be a world of difference on my q5 3.0T.
Glad to hear! You'll definitely enjoy the upgrade!
Thinking about buying a 3.0T C7 A6 after watching your guys videos, looks like a fun, quick, and reliable platform.
It's an awesome car!
I learned a lot I appreciate both of you !
Awesome! Thank you!
Actually most of the fastest guys are pushing around the 3.4 pulley ratio. Shane horning, Mattys4, and the first 9 second supercharged s5 was on a 3.5 pulley ratio granted with a 50 shot. The only guy in the very low 10s to be on standard pulley ratio is rushil with a good bit of weight reduction and mixing 109 octane with ethanol. My 2 cents are if you live in a hot area go with a normal pulley ratio but if you live somewhere where its mainly colder outside then don't be afraid even going with a 3.4 ratio as the heat is less likely to be an issue
im in montana, so cold cold winters and 90 degree summers. we also have 5000ft of elevation. for an extra sporty daily what would you recomend?
@calebs281 high elevation you ideally would want the highest pulley ratio you can get however with the overheating issue on these cars you will still run into that problem. Shooting for something like a 194 crank or a 196 5 crank with a 57mm upper as Long as you upgrade your coolant pump you should be fine
So which pulley would you recommend changing first. I have a c7 z06, upper or lower. I heard the lower pulleys puts stress on the alternator. Not sure to be honest
I have the 207mm and have a major squeak. Brand new part. Would love some customer service. Thank you.
Please email us at techsupport@034motorsport.com and we'd be happy to help!
Would this work on crec engine
Hi there @034Motorsport quick question,
For a inner city daily driving where the environment mostly gets us in a situation where short-distance acceleration is more useful than long-distance top speed, and wanting to optimise the performance boost without losing efficiency and reliability, would you suggest more the 179 mil with the stock upper pulley or the 179 mil with the upgraded upper pulley? Thank you! I am new to this and trying to understand better.
Additional note: I live in a hot and humid region so heat is an important factor
Hey there! The 179mm Crank Pulley Setup with the stock or upgraded upper is a great setup as it produces less heat compared to the 190mm setup. The preference for going single or dual pulley is entirely up to you, just be sure you're fulfilling the required hardware for each by referencing our product page here: www.034motorsport.com/b8-b8-5-audi-s4-s5-3-0-tfsi-performance-software-stage-1-2-plus-dual-pulley-6877.html
Hi... great videos you have.
Tell me please.... I have SQ5 2015 and I ordered now 034 crank 207mm pulley. (Like dual pulley)
And a heat exchanger "mercracing"
And I took out the inside of the cat material = free flow.
My question is... what software you recommend me to run for this???
034 or IE or APR or what???
I don't want to go E40 or so..
Only 91fuel with it.
Of course what is your 034 price???... and how can I order it?
You think these guys are going to recommend IE or APR or GIAC if they’re also a tuning company and they want to sell their software?
would the 3.29 ratio be too aggressive for a daily driver?
is it only the upgraded sc pulley that increases heat, or is it the higher ratio in general that aids in heat production
A 3.29 ratio would not be too aggressive for a daily driver. It is the higher pulley ratio in general that increases heat production, which is why we list an upgraded heat exchanger as a requirement once you go Stage 2+.
If I remove my smaller supercharger pulley and use the stock size and upgrade the crank pulley to 179mm is this setup going to generate lesser heat versus 57.75mm SC pulley + stock crank pulley setup?
You'd be splitting hairs. The differences on single pulley with those setups is going to be relatively small.
That said, it would be beneficial to remove the factory crank pulley as it is a prone failure point. It would also be beneficial to upgrade your factory heat exchanger!
Hey guys awesome video, if i do 179 or 190 pulley stage 2 software do i have to do the TCU upgrade too? Im not drag racing my car or anything crazy at the moment... eventually ill Do the TCU software i want to be sure that is safe to drive like that for now
The TCU software upgrade is a required upgrade in order to utilize our Stage 2 & 2+ software safely
Perfect thank you so much for clarifying that for me, now im actually excited to order my parts, and I should get the heat exchanger as well?
Can I run the 207 as a single on just stage the stage file 2 or do I have to be on the stage 2 + file and can I run the e40 blend with the 207 crank?
You will need to run the Stage 2+ file. Stage 2+ has the following available octanes: 91, 93, 100, 104, E40.
Would you recommend a7 with zf8 or s5 with dsg?
and how different the engines are although they are pretty much the same
Both are very different cars and are great in their own ways!
Question…is the 034 crank pulley as balanced as the stock pulley is? (especially long term applications) and reliability is concerned?
We do not specifically balance, the pulleys, but since the aluminum material we use is inherently, a very uniform material, and the part is perfectly symmetrical then it is inherently a very balanced piece already, and no further balancing is needed.
What would your recommendation be for a safe and solid approach on pulley setup for a casual driving experience?
For dual pulley, we recommend the 179/57 setup as it minimizes heat! The most common setup is 190/57 or 207/stock
Ok so I have a question, I have a 2011 A6 supercharger and what I have done is remove part of the material we're the throttle body goes and welded on a 4bbl carburetor flange! I plan on adapting this to go on a 1960 cris craft poly 318 manifold and running this in my 65 dodge D100! How fast can I spin this supercharger and what kind of boost am I looking at?
For someone who mostly uses their B8 as a daily driver, but has the occasional blast with the local RS/M car on the way to work, would you recommend stock upper and 034 lower? And if so which size would you recommend for this type of car use?
Any pulley ratio is suitable so long as you have the proper cooling setup!
For someone not looking to go all-out, we'd recommend sticking to the 179mm lower.
@@034motorsport Thanks for the reply, I'll definitely take that suggestion!
@@stacks_producercoolings a big deal regardless of the pulley
would your guys’ 57 sc pulley be compatible with ecs 187 cp and their kevlar reinforced belt?
Yes it would be
There is nothing wrong with driving around in dynamic mode all the time with a stage 1 ECU/TCU tune correct? Not talking Sport mode for the trans just dynamic. I just want to make sure I'm not ruining my Trans by doing this. Thank you kindly.
Plan on adding my 207 Pulley soon and Cannot wait!
You can drive in Dynamic all the time!
@@034motorsport Thank you! I had thought so I just wanted to check with people who know much more than I lol
could I go stage 2 without any pulley modifications or do I need to chose stage 1. my understanding was stage 2+ was the only setup that needed a pulley
Stage 2 is a Single Pulley upgrade and Stage 2+ is a Dual Pulley upgrade. Stage 1 can be installed on a bone stock car.
For stage 2 single pulley is there any risk with the 190mm crank pulley I’ve heard if going stage 2 single pulley to do the supercharger pulley and not the crank pulley because doing crank pulley could cause engine to blow
As long as your supercharger pulley remains stock, you’ll be good to go on our Stage 2 setup with a 190mm crank
does your tune adapt with a 194mm KI cp and 57mm upper?
Yes, it will work great with that ratio!
Funny how the intern would just use ton of wipes to soak up the coffee while the old man grabs it and wipes it up like grown man hahah
I’m switching over to 034 from EPL dual pulley my crank pulley is a 192mm with the smaller upper pulley do you have a tune for that? Is there that much of a difference from a 190mm to 192mm?
We support all pulley configurations so long as they fall under normal dual pulley ratios. You’re good to go on our software.
We offer a Switchover Discount for owners looking to make the switch to our calibration software. Shoot our team and email at contact@034motorsport.com and we’ll get you set up there!
Question guys if I wanna do an stage 1 in audi s4 or s5 I don’t need to cut the catalytic?
And why mod* I have to do ?
For stage one you need the factory cat converters need to be in place, no other modifications are required.
Is it possible to use the 034 upper/OEM lower without upgrading cooling system? I know it would be best to upgrade cooling too, but is it possible without upgrading it and not overheat?
You can, though you'll certainly run into heatsoak issues.
We always recommend an upgraded HX with an upgraded pulley.
I ran stock lower, 57.75 upper, stock heat exchanger for approximately 30,000 miles . Never any issues. B8 S4. Note...never tracked the car.
At what point do you recommend upgrading the cooling system? Does a 3.1 ratio require a cooling system upgrade?
With any pulley upgrade we would recommend a cooling system upgrade.
Our heat exchangers are a great option that perform exceptionally well!
There are benefits to having an upgraded HX on factory pulleys as well
@@034motorsport Thanks, is there a certain ratio point or cut off at which you absolutely advise or in other words require the end user to upgrade their cooling system to prevent any potential damage to the engine?
@@ProjectArjun Generally speaking, getting close to that 3.0 ratio mark will require a heat exchanger. Depends largely on how hard you’re going to drive the car, and the climate it’s in. I have an upgraded 57mm supercharger pulley on my A6 and haven’t seen any issues or heat soak from just that alone, all stock cooling. However, I don’t push the car super hard, and it tends to be a bit cooler here in Canada
@@ProjectArjun I'd look at C7 Owners Page. He has a great breakdown on why the heat exchanger should be your first mod. When the intake air temps get to hot, the car starts to take timing and power out! Up to 40% he claimed. Just a thought to consider.
Can run the 207mm pulley with stage 2 software? Waiting on stage 2+ but in the meantime hoping I can drive on stage 2 and DP Ratio (207mm)
You can run our Stage 2 tune with a DP ratio (207mm) in the meantime while you are waiting for Stage 2+ without an issue. Though, we recommend getting on that Stage 2+ tune asap!
Hello gents! Seeing no compatibility listed for the 4M Q7. Is that correct? What’s the difference in application there? Thanks!
That is correct. The 4M Q7 3.0T has a CREC engine, which has a different supercharger and utilizes a bolt-on pulley and a magnetic clutch design. We currently do not offer a supercharger pully upgrade for the CREC motor, but we are working on alternative solutions, as well as tuning software!
Would you guys recommend 57x179 or 57x190 for 1/4mile drag racing?
57/190 is a common setup! You'll definitely need a quality heat exchanger to manage the heat generated, such as our own heat exchanger kit!
In this 57x190 or just 207xstock what is the risk for the engine or supercharger? Or other parts?
And from other side...what is the improvement in the power? In HP.. but in 91octan... not higher.
There is a huge difference from stage 1 to stage 2plus?
Would it be cooler on the supercharger to do a 179 crank vs the 57 supercharger pulley?
They're both pretty much the same ratio.
179/63.25 = 2.83
162.25/57.7 = 2.81
We'd do the crank pulley as the factory one is prone to failure
@@034motorsport thank you! Absolutely thrilled with your products!
So if I swapped to a 207 crank pulley and kept stock one,could I run the stage2+ file?
Yeah, with the 207 pulley u need to run the stage 2+ file
Yes, 207 Crank Pulley + Stock Supercharger pulley would dicate Stage 2+
I went from factory pulley ratio/intake stage 1 to 187.3x57.3 stage 2+. 93 octane. I did also did hx same time I upgraded the pulleys. I must say I am running similar 60-130 times to when I was just stage 1 with intake and no hx.
Any reason for this? I don’t have test pipes yet but still upgraded the ratio. It seems to be inconsistent too as I just did 12.07 60-130 and then a 10.29 60-130 about 15 minutes later (didn’t let the car cool off or anything). Any reasoning?
You'll need to email tuning@034motorsport.com for assistance. We'll want to datalog your vehicle to ensure it is running optimally!
@@034motorsport emailed last night👍🏼 waiting for response
Hello, Looking to buy stage 2 93 octane tune for my 2014 prestige S4, Mileage 109K Very Good condition overall.
The only engine "Modification" i have is your s34 intake
Is it safe to Tune my car to stage 2 flat, 93 OCT, (NOT stage 2+) without modifying my supercharger at all? or are pulley mods necessary
The pulley modifications are required for Stage 2 or Stage 2+.
ok.... więc jaka konfiguracja wymiany kół jest najlepsza?
It'll depend on how you use your car!
@@034motorsport audi s4 b8
Is it possible at all to run the 207mm with a smaller SC pulley?
Or what would be the most aggressive dual pulley setup?
We cannot recommend running the 207mm Crank Pulley with an upgraded SC pulley. It is only designed to be used with the OEM SC pulley. Running a 207 with an upgraded SC pulley would spin the supercharger faster producing more boost, but you would also be producing a lot more heat which would hurt performance.
Some of our fastest customers are actually running our 179mm + SC pulley.
If you are running just stage 1 ecu/tcu and don’t want to go stage 2, what is your recommendation to prevent oem pulley failure? Have you thought of making one piece billet 162mm pulley just like OEM size for preventative purposes?
Fluidampr in the stock 162mm size.
I have the dual pulley kit. 190mm lower and and the 57.70mm SC pulley. Can I run both on a stage one tune and not upgrade cooling and exhaust? What would be the best combination? Just doing some spirited driving currently and just want an upgrade that is reliable and not a lot of stress on the engine. Can always adjust accordingly if I decide to track in the future.
Having both pullies upgraded would require our Stage 2+ software. Stage 1 is designed for factory upper and lower pullies, and we cannot recommend running Stage 1 in your case! You would need an intake and upgraded heat exchanger at a minimum to run with your dual pullies and Stage 2+ tune.
Can I run the 190mm on stage 1 tune??
The 190mm pulley is designed for our Stage 2 ECU tune
If I just upgrade the upper pully. N do the rest of the things. So the intake n exhaust. How much power will I increase for whp
On B8.5
Without tuning, the car will simply bleed off the extra boost. If you upgrade to Stage 2, you can generate 450 HP / 387 TQ on 91 Octane!
@@034motorsport wow thank you for replying back to an old videos I appreciate it.
Thank you! 🙏🏼
@@034motorsportfor the 57.7m upper pulley. The 179mm lower pulley. Will that be a good set up? For city driving? I wanna be able to hit 10’s in a dig
I know I'm late to the chat but..... my 3.0T just ticked over 200 000kms. Is them image too high to do a dual pulley now?
Absolutely not! We've had plenty of customers in the 200,000 KM range go with our Dual Pulley setup without issue. Just be sure to do your normal maintenance on the car and you'll be running Dual Pulley power for many years/miles to come.
@034motorsport I'm gonna send You guys a email. I'm IN.
@034motorsport is it worth it to change charger oil at any point?
How many people are running just the Crank pulley and getting good numbers
Running just the 207mm Crank Pulley offers a very similar pulley ratio to the 190/57.7 setup, so you can expect great results no matter which route you choose.
@@034motorsport amazing I think I wanna go this route I could always go dual pulley if I don't get what I want, thank you for your quick response
What you plan on running it on I’m thinking of getting one of the two also I have a 2013 a7 c7 i already have stage 1 apr
@@Supremevbm my AudiA7 C7
Can I run 207/57?
You can, though it is not recommended as that would generate a significant amount of heat in the factory intercooler cores.
I'm currently running a 57x190 setup on a 1320mm belt. Stage 2+ with test pipes file.
I notice that I seem to be getting quite a bit of belt slip even with a brand new tensioner. (Black dust around upper pulley area) Is there any way to help reduce belt slip?
I have a 1310mm gates RPM belt on order. Hopefully this solves my issue.
Mine same issue, belt snapped a month in.. there is a stud beside the crank pulley under the belt that's making contact and we believe that caused it or slippage.. tensioners we're all fine as is pulley alignment... but now I can't even get a new belt, everyone seems to be out of stock right now.. curious about fitting a 1310 on this ratio.. I considered the same thing but wasn't sure if it would work.
@@TimexG Thanks for the input. I don't think the stud is the issue on my setup. I had my crank pulley installed before I did my upper. I believe it is good practice to trim/grind that stud down during installation of the crank pulley.