Well, yeah, you have a point. And the Baneblade turret looks really good on it. To be honest, I was surprised how good it looked even without the storage bin on. That being said, the Rogal Dorn is supposed to be a VERY different vehicle - to the point that the design philosophy is changed almost from the ground up. This is also what happened to British tanks in WW2, with the progression from the Cromwell to the Comet to the Centurion, where the evolution from one to the next is pretty clear, but the Centurion looks pretty much nothing like the Cromwell. Let's have a bit of a look between the Leman Russ and the Rogal Dorn: 1. The turrets differ by quite a lot. 2. The engine deck is night and day, especially vents and overall size. 3. Frontal armor layout is now more about armor and not just a sponson next to a driver's hatch. 4. Track geometry is vastly different. 5. Suspension design is vastly different. Now, here's the funny part. Leman Russ has always been a WW1 british tank with a mildly modern turret. You know what the Leman Russ is? It's an M26 Pershing with 40k design elements. Turret shape is pretty much the same as the Pershing, hull, track and suspension also look very similar. Personally, I like the idea, but that's just me. I'm glad you found a way to make it work for you!
Yes I think it simply is about the looks and cohesion for me - the Dorn simply doesn’t have it 🙂 Its compounded by the fact that I dislike the look of the Pershing and Patton which were obviously inspirational in the Dorn’s design. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching 👍
Thank you mate! 👍 it’s all preference at the end of the day but I like it! I might showcase my ‘King Dorn’ squadron on the channel when I’ve finished painting them up! Thanks for watching! 🙏
Neat idea! I'm personally happy with the Rogal Dorn as is, but the Baneblade turret without the storage box surprised me with how good it looked. I think if I were to do that I'd try to get the Rogal Dorn cannons onto the Baneblade turret, just to make them a bit smaller and the turret a bit less unbalanced.
That’s fair but what about the massive dakka boom! 🤣 seriously tho the suppressor cannon is a very nice looking bit of kit so that would work well methinks 👍 thanks for watching!
Thank you! 🙏 I hope you managed to have a good look at it on the turntable at the end? I appreciate the kind feedback and thanks for taking the time to tune in!
@@maddokminis yes I did and both turrets looked amazing. I've always felt like the rogal dorn looked awkward compared to all other imperial tanks. I have the plan on making my imperial guard army unique with proxies. This will greatly help in that endeavor. Thank you for sharing this find.
In fact, if you are making a whole army, you can try gluing the turret from plastic sheets. Basically, you can take the Baneblade's turret as a basis and reduce each side by a couple of millimetres. This will work if you are confused by the size of the Baneblade turret.
Good idea 🙂 though you can get a genuine baneblade turret at a reasonable price if you shop around. But certainly the idea of reducing the size a bit feels like a good idea. Thanks for watching 🙏
I would add a piece of bolted on armor on the small area of side armor near the front below the turret. Also some bolted on armor on the glacis. It looks a bit too smoth as it is compared to the turret now. Small turret looks better imho, turret storage bin gives it a much more modern vibe which doesnt exactly fit the aesthethic.
I was thinking exactly the same thing about the frontal armour myself - not sure whether I’ll follow through on it or not but I certainly take your point 🙂 thanks for the feedback and for watching 👍
Honestly the turret size doesn’t really bother me that much, it’s really how wide the barrel is; but I guess that’s what you get when you paste a superheavy’s turret onto a smaller tank. Speaking of, that’s also the problem on the Leman Russ; the regular variant’s barrel is much too thick, and using a battle cannon from the Dorn is a very nice replacement.
There definitely seems to be a conscious more towards more realistic weapon sizes in Warhammer 40000. For my own part I like a bit goofiness with my 40k and therefore I like the ridiculously oversized guns and cannons. For me GW are taking their 40k universe a bit too seriously these days. I do realise that I’m in a minority however! 😄 thanks for watching 👍
I'd like to see a middle ground, perhaps made from plasticard just a bit bigger than the Leman's, a bit smaller than the Baneblade. Just big enough so the sides don't hang over and create a huge "shot trap". I'd also be curious to see a "cast" turret on the Leman or the Baneblade too.
Agreed. I think that a size reduction of about 15% would suit me just fine 🙂 as for shot traps - so many 40k vehicles have such terrible design flaws that I’m quite happy now to dispense with realism for Warhammer and just enjoy the rule of cool 😄 thanks for watching 👍
Looks great with the Baneblade turret, only thing I'd change is to get rid of a few of those rivets, help it fit in with the chassis a bit more. From my (very) limited WW2 tank knowledge, some turrets were cast so wouldnt need riveting, I'd maybe keep the ones on the cuppolas and front armour sections and take the rest off. All personal preference of course, nice vid and your tanks look great! :)
Thank you mate, I appreciate the kind feedback and yes there are plenty of ways you could modify this to suit individual tastes! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment brother 👍
I think you are absolutely right but it is a bit beyond my remit! 😅 a few people have mentioned doing away with the rivets altogether which I guess you be easier. Thanks for watching and commenting brother 🙏
I enjoyed this episode. What would make them blend together better,in my opinion would be to either add rivets to the body or remove them from the turret.the glaring difference,again in my opinion,is the difference in the rivets.otherwise I really liked this video.also how about a showcase of your praetorian army.i would enjoy seeing the whole army and hearing your reasons for picking the individual units and characters.just a thought.
While realism is indeed a non-issue for Warhammer, it’s also worth bearing in mind that modern tanks have absolutely enormous turrets compared to Warhammer tanks, so I don’t think it’s too out of place - great for the upsized Russ look
Thank you mate. Yeah realism in a ridiculous setting like 40k is somewhat out of place but, drawing on modern comparisons, I agree with you that the larger turret doesn’t look too shabby! 🙂 thanks for the kind feedback and for tuning in 🙏
Yes that is the way I am going with things (minus storage box) I have done this to a squadron of 3 Dorns and they look awesome all together! Might have to do another video to show them all completed! Thanks for watching mate, much appreciated 🙏
I mean I hope the Guard turrets end up following the Dorn turret. The space marines have the more angular design now and it helps differentiate the guard vehicles from them even more
Nooo! You are breaking my heart over here! 🤣 for me personally the rounded turrets are just awful! That being said I’m really glad that they please you mate, we all have different preferences after all! Thanks for watching! 👍
Interesting idea. It’s a little too big for me, maybe a 3D printed version scaled to 80% would be perfect, or using the Rogal Dorn’s barrel instead would bring it to scale. I agree that the RD turret strangely doesn’t fit the aesthetic, maybe the design team was a bit too keen on pushing Guard to WW2 era (including the redesigned soldiers) and leaving the sloped riveted design for HH. I recently built a baneblade and didn’t realise what that machine gun piece was for until you took the back part off the turret off!
That’s very fair. I think for me a reduction of about 10- 15% would work nicely 🙂 I like the idea of using real life armies and nations for inspiration in 40k (which is why I love praetorians) but the ww2 style Cadians are a bit dull to me TBH. As for the machine gun port at the rear of the turret - I can totally understand how that can get missed! It’s not at all obvious! 🙂 thanks for taking the time to watch mate 👍
Does the Baneblade turret fit in more with the style of Guard tanks? Yes it does. But does it go with the dedign of the Rogal? I think not so much. The Rogal has more rounded hull plating, rather than the more sharp angles of the Russ and Chimera. Also, is that a pith helmet on the tank commander...?
Fair enough mate, agree to disagree 🙂 yes that is indeed a pith helmet on a tank commander! FOR PRAETORIA!!! HUZZA!! Thanks for taking the time to watch 👍
I didn’t go that route myself as I assumed that the Dorn’s guns would look a little undersized on the larger turret - I’m planning on doing a follow up video on my finished squadron - I may show it there if I can 🙂 thanks for watching 👍
Personally I like the original Rogal Dorn turret, because it's a New tank from a new STC, right? It wouldn't follow the same exact design language because it's like comparing a 1997 Corolla to a 2024 Suzuku However, I really like what you did! It's a great idea, and I'm personally going to try that Leman Russ turret on a stug-style coverison I'm working on
I think it’s just about what you like looking at and I’m not a fan of rounded cast style turrets. Thank you for the kind feedback and for taking the time to watch 👍
My thing when it comes to "realism" in 40K, is not "What is realistic", but what feels right given what's stated in the lore. For example, the Leman Russ is supposed to have a 120mm Smoothbore cannon, which isn't what we have for a model. That looks more like a KV-2 main gun in comparison. Using the RDs Battle Cannons in the 'hole' for the Russ feels much better given the stated bore size. What's interesting is that ll of the other IG vehicles don't have this issue as the weapons feel like they're the right size for the hull's their mounted to. But that's me.
Personally I kinda like the ridiculousness of the gun sizes. I remember when the Russ was originally released in the early/mid 90s so there’s a lot of nostalgia involved for me. I have always enjoyed a good helping of goofiness with my 40k and sadly GW seems to have taken a much more serious direction away from the original satire these days. I still love the universe but I like to embrace the silliness! 😄 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 🙏
@@maddokminis Some of that goofiness kinda needed to go though. For example the proportions of the Space Marines. Their original models were no bigger than a Guardsman, and the way the Armor was designed meant that it looked like someone in the armor couldn't actually move. Cue the Primaris redesigns which fit the lore size even better, offer a terrifying new helmet design, _and_ look like someone can actually move in it. For me, if someone asked me to redesign the Russ... I'd keep the form for the most part. The turret would be wider to fit the crew it's supposed to have, and the hull would be longer to make it easier for the vehicle to cross a trench. I'd also use a different model of the battle cannon, and maybe keep the old one as a 'super' battle cannon or something. The main concern for me is always going to be "Can the humans that are supposed to operate it, actually fit in it". If not... then something needs to be adjusted XD I personally like it when the lore and the model match up though.
I agree with you entirely about the Primaris! 🙂 I truly see that as a scale correction against regular humans 👍 as for the Russ - I’m very happy with everything except the width of the tracks! That’s why I widen mine a bit ✊ all the other stuff, including the sponsons being stupidly small can stay! 😄 - I’ve seen a lengthened 3d printed Russ and really disliked it personally (I’m too conditioned to the original I guess🤷🏼♂️) thank you for the response mate, I always enjoy hearing other hobbyist’s thoughts 🙏
@@maddokminis admittedly, I'd love to see a LR upgrade set that allows the hobbyist to make different variations of the Russ. Not the variants mind you, but the different versions made by different forge worlds, or used by specific forces (like the Armageddon pattern or the Krieg pattern). Especially with the new HH kit that was released, GW would get a license to print money if they released such a set since the new kit can serve as _the_ new Leman Russ.
That’s fair. TBH I actually like the tank as its own thing just not when it is rolling up next to Leman Russ or a Baneblade 🙂 thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 👍
Me looking at the humongous cast style turret I made for my baneblade: Well my problem was with the hatches poking out each side of the turret and chassis!
It’s interesting the different things that bug us about tanks and miniatures! 😄 the important thing is turning them into something that you like! Thanks for watching 👍
I believe it’s around 1:48 generally but I do find that with 40k being so ridiculously overpowered, this scale can feel somewhat dainty! 1:35 often works well because of this! Thanks for watching and I hope that helps! 🙂
The Dorn is clearly inspired by the M26 Pershing while the Leman is a hybrid ww1/2 English inspired one. The difference in design language is excusable given the in universe eclectic nature of the Imperium. Personally, I changed all my Russ' and Chimera's to sport a more Panzer IV inspired turret.
That would explain why I’m not a fan of the Dorn turret - never did like the look of the Pershing (or the later Patton). I actually much prefer the look of the German tanks. Thanks for taking the time to tune in and share your thoughts 👍
Hey mate hope you recognise the first name. Thought I'd come check out the channel and drop a subscribe. Nice stuff mate. Getting the T-54 printing soon.
@maddokminis No worries I'll check out some of the other videos once I got a bit more time during the day not easy with kids waking up at 5am with in the summer holidays 😔
@maddokminis mines 4 and all boys. So non stop fighting not sharing and them taking over my desk to play PS5 and stopping me from working on my own projects haha
For me I think the Rogal Dorn just clashes too mich visually with the rest of the Guard's armoured units, with its "rounded cast" upper front hull, even though swtiching the turret out massively improved my like of the vehicle. But it unfortunately still doesn't make it fit enough for me to buy a Rogal Dorn. Just too toyish and goofy looking, and a ridiculously weird shape even for 40k
That’s fair. I’m glad I could sort out the turret quite easily 🙂 I’m most likely going to leave the hull alone as it’s not as offensive to me. Thank you for taking the time to watch and share you thoughts mate 🙏
How about this for a contoversial take my fellow tread heads: I don't really like imperial guard tanks. Unless they are FW or are baneblades. I love the guard and I love tanks. To this end I have 2 Macharius, 2 baneblades and 2 turreted malcador/malcadorns, and nearly everthing else is either 3rd party or converted to within an inch of it's life. Sometimes often both.
I generally like the 40k aesthetic for tanks (which is probably why I have issues with the Dorn) thanks for sharing your thoughts mate and for tuning in! 👍
I am sorry but for someone complaining about the turret's shape you do need to pay attention to your seam cleanup. There is an obvious seam and unfilled gap on the top of the Rogal main gun barrel and the fuel tanks. Otherwise nice conversion and paint job.
Oh dear my friend! You have come to the wrong place for clean seams and mould lines! 🤣🤣 it’s in the channel name “Mad Dok Minis” 🙂 seriously though I appreciate you tuning in and taking the time to comment, thanks for watching brother 👍
Well that’s kinda the idea! 😄 but yes if you like it to look different from the Russ then it’s not going to float your boat 🙂 thanks for watching mate 🙏
That smaller turret looked fantastic! Like an upscaled FT-17!
Oh! You liked the smaller baneblade variant?
@@maddokminis It's the kind of conversion that really turns that model into something worth buying!
Thanks - I like both but I think the stubby version is the better look 👍
Just wanted to say how much I love that paintjob!
Thank you! Thanks also for watching! 🙏
Well, yeah, you have a point. And the Baneblade turret looks really good on it. To be honest, I was surprised how good it looked even without the storage bin on. That being said, the Rogal Dorn is supposed to be a VERY different vehicle - to the point that the design philosophy is changed almost from the ground up. This is also what happened to British tanks in WW2, with the progression from the Cromwell to the Comet to the Centurion, where the evolution from one to the next is pretty clear, but the Centurion looks pretty much nothing like the Cromwell.
Let's have a bit of a look between the Leman Russ and the Rogal Dorn:
1. The turrets differ by quite a lot.
2. The engine deck is night and day, especially vents and overall size.
3. Frontal armor layout is now more about armor and not just a sponson next to a driver's hatch.
4. Track geometry is vastly different.
5. Suspension design is vastly different.
Now, here's the funny part. Leman Russ has always been a WW1 british tank with a mildly modern turret. You know what the Leman Russ is? It's an M26 Pershing with 40k design elements. Turret shape is pretty much the same as the Pershing, hull, track and suspension also look very similar. Personally, I like the idea, but that's just me. I'm glad you found a way to make it work for you!
Yes I think it simply is about the looks and cohesion for me - the Dorn simply doesn’t have it 🙂 Its compounded by the fact that I dislike the look of the Pershing and Patton which were obviously inspirational in the Dorn’s design. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching 👍
The Leman Russ turret looked quite good I think but the Baneblade looks great 😊 It looks properly like an upgraded Leman Russ!
Thank you mate! 👍 it’s all preference at the end of the day but I like it! I might showcase my ‘King Dorn’ squadron on the channel when I’ve finished painting them up! Thanks for watching! 🙏
@@maddokminis 'King Dorn'! Has a ring to it!!
Neat idea! I'm personally happy with the Rogal Dorn as is, but the Baneblade turret without the storage box surprised me with how good it looked. I think if I were to do that I'd try to get the Rogal Dorn cannons onto the Baneblade turret, just to make them a bit smaller and the turret a bit less unbalanced.
That’s fair but what about the massive dakka boom! 🤣 seriously tho the suppressor cannon is a very nice looking bit of kit so that would work well methinks 👍 thanks for watching!
5:45 this looks amazing I must try it when I get my hands on a baneblade and rogal dorn.
Thank you! 🙏 I hope you managed to have a good look at it on the turntable at the end? I appreciate the kind feedback and thanks for taking the time to tune in!
@@maddokminis yes I did and both turrets looked amazing. I've always felt like the rogal dorn looked awkward compared to all other imperial tanks. I have the plan on making my imperial guard army unique with proxies. This will greatly help in that endeavor. Thank you for sharing this find.
In fact, if you are making a whole army, you can try gluing the turret from plastic sheets.
Basically, you can take the Baneblade's turret as a basis and reduce each side by a couple of millimetres. This will work if you are confused by the size of the Baneblade turret.
Good idea 🙂 though you can get a genuine baneblade turret at a reasonable price if you shop around. But certainly the idea of reducing the size a bit feels like a good idea. Thanks for watching 🙏
I would add a piece of bolted on armor on the small area of side armor near the front below the turret. Also some bolted on armor on the glacis. It looks a bit too smoth as it is compared to the turret now.
Small turret looks better imho, turret storage bin gives it a much more modern vibe which doesnt exactly fit the aesthethic.
I was thinking exactly the same thing about the frontal armour myself - not sure whether I’ll follow through on it or not but I certainly take your point 🙂 thanks for the feedback and for watching 👍
My thoughts exactly on it. The macharius turret also looks fantastic, however a little more pricey to replace.
Ah so I’m not alone in this then! 😄 yes I expect a Macharius turret looks perfect 👌 thanks for watching brother 👍
Oooh if the macharius looks good then Mortian Tank's third party turrets might work well
Honestly the turret size doesn’t really bother me that much, it’s really how wide the barrel is; but I guess that’s what you get when you paste a superheavy’s turret onto a smaller tank. Speaking of, that’s also the problem on the Leman Russ; the regular variant’s barrel is much too thick, and using a battle cannon from the Dorn is a very nice replacement.
There definitely seems to be a conscious more towards more realistic weapon sizes in Warhammer 40000. For my own part I like a bit goofiness with my 40k and therefore I like the ridiculously oversized guns and cannons. For me GW are taking their 40k universe a bit too seriously these days. I do realise that I’m in a minority however! 😄 thanks for watching 👍
I COMPLETELY agree with you! Between the turret and the bottom I had to purchase separately, this model is junk. I regret my purchase.
😄 well I’m glad to hear I’m not the only one! I’m a lot happier with it now 🙂 thank you for watching mate 🙏
I'd like to see a middle ground, perhaps made from plasticard just a bit bigger than the Leman's, a bit smaller than the Baneblade. Just big enough so the sides don't hang over and create a huge "shot trap". I'd also be curious to see a "cast" turret on the Leman or the Baneblade too.
Agreed. I think that a size reduction of about 15% would suit me just fine 🙂 as for shot traps - so many 40k vehicles have such terrible design flaws that I’m quite happy now to dispense with realism for Warhammer and just enjoy the rule of cool 😄 thanks for watching 👍
Interesting take on the Dorn!
Thanks for tuning in! 👍
Looks great with the Baneblade turret, only thing I'd change is to get rid of a few of those rivets, help it fit in with the chassis a bit more. From my (very) limited WW2 tank knowledge, some turrets were cast so wouldnt need riveting, I'd maybe keep the ones on the cuppolas and front armour sections and take the rest off. All personal preference of course, nice vid and your tanks look great! :)
Thank you mate, I appreciate the kind feedback and yes there are plenty of ways you could modify this to suit individual tastes! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment brother 👍
It would be a pain, but, maybe, scaling down the rivets on the Baneblade turret could make it look more in scale with the chassis? 🤔
I think you are absolutely right but it is a bit beyond my remit! 😅 a few people have mentioned doing away with the rivets altogether which I guess you be easier. Thanks for watching and commenting brother 🙏
I enjoyed this episode. What would make them blend together better,in my opinion would be to either add rivets to the body or remove them from the turret.the glaring difference,again in my opinion,is the difference in the rivets.otherwise I really liked this video.also how about a showcase of your praetorian army.i would enjoy seeing the whole army and hearing your reasons for picking the individual units and characters.just a thought.
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it mate 🙂 I have done a more in depth video on my praetorians - not sure if you’ve seen that one?
My dorns are printed upscaled mars pattern Russ inspired. Have all the design ques of their counterparts and I love them.
Sounds great 👍 the Dorn should be a big brother to the Russ! Thanks for watching 🙏
While realism is indeed a non-issue for Warhammer, it’s also worth bearing in mind that modern tanks have absolutely enormous turrets compared to Warhammer tanks, so I don’t think it’s too out of place - great for the upsized Russ look
Thank you mate. Yeah realism in a ridiculous setting like 40k is somewhat out of place but, drawing on modern comparisons, I agree with you that the larger turret doesn’t look too shabby! 🙂 thanks for the kind feedback and for tuning in 🙏
Definitely prefer the turret minus the stowage box. I’d live to see this one completely deserted out. Jerrycans, camp nets the whole bling
Yes that is the way I am going with things (minus storage box) I have done this to a squadron of 3 Dorns and they look awesome all together! Might have to do another video to show them all completed! Thanks for watching mate, much appreciated 🙏
I really like the larger turret. The issue i have with the Baneblade turret are the rivets, they are to pronounced when compared to the hull.
I don’t mind the rivets myself but I think they would be super easy to remove 🙂 thanks for watching and commenting! 👍
I mean I hope the Guard turrets end up following the Dorn turret. The space marines have the more angular design now and it helps differentiate the guard vehicles from them even more
Nooo! You are breaking my heart over here! 🤣 for me personally the rounded turrets are just awful! That being said I’m really glad that they please you mate, we all have different preferences after all! Thanks for watching! 👍
Interesting idea. It’s a little too big for me, maybe a 3D printed version scaled to 80% would be perfect, or using the Rogal Dorn’s barrel instead would bring it to scale. I agree that the RD turret strangely doesn’t fit the aesthetic, maybe the design team was a bit too keen on pushing Guard to WW2 era (including the redesigned soldiers) and leaving the sloped riveted design for HH. I recently built a baneblade and didn’t realise what that machine gun piece was for until you took the back part off the turret off!
That’s very fair. I think for me a reduction of about 10- 15% would work nicely 🙂 I like the idea of using real life armies and nations for inspiration in 40k (which is why I love praetorians) but the ww2 style Cadians are a bit dull to me TBH. As for the machine gun port at the rear of the turret - I can totally understand how that can get missed! It’s not at all obvious! 🙂 thanks for taking the time to watch mate 👍
Does the Baneblade turret fit in more with the style of Guard tanks? Yes it does. But does it go with the dedign of the Rogal? I think not so much. The Rogal has more rounded hull plating, rather than the more sharp angles of the Russ and Chimera.
Also, is that a pith helmet on the tank commander...?
Fair enough mate, agree to disagree 🙂 yes that is indeed a pith helmet on a tank commander! FOR PRAETORIA!!! HUZZA!! Thanks for taking the time to watch 👍
@@maddokminis Not a problem. And I do fondly remember the battle of Big Toof River :D
Would there be a way to glue the canons from the original onto the bigger turret? Curious to see how that would look
I didn’t go that route myself as I assumed that the Dorn’s guns would look a little undersized on the larger turret - I’m planning on doing a follow up video on my finished squadron - I may show it there if I can 🙂 thanks for watching 👍
Personally I like the original Rogal Dorn turret, because it's a New tank from a new STC, right? It wouldn't follow the same exact design language because it's like comparing a 1997 Corolla to a 2024 Suzuku
However, I really like what you did! It's a great idea, and I'm personally going to try that Leman Russ turret on a stug-style coverison I'm working on
I think it’s just about what you like looking at and I’m not a fan of rounded cast style turrets. Thank you for the kind feedback and for taking the time to watch 👍
My thing when it comes to "realism" in 40K, is not "What is realistic", but what feels right given what's stated in the lore.
For example, the Leman Russ is supposed to have a 120mm Smoothbore cannon, which isn't what we have for a model. That looks more like a KV-2 main gun in comparison. Using the RDs Battle Cannons in the 'hole' for the Russ feels much better given the stated bore size.
What's interesting is that ll of the other IG vehicles don't have this issue as the weapons feel like they're the right size for the hull's their mounted to. But that's me.
Personally I kinda like the ridiculousness of the gun sizes. I remember when the Russ was originally released in the early/mid 90s so there’s a lot of nostalgia involved for me. I have always enjoyed a good helping of goofiness with my 40k and sadly GW seems to have taken a much more serious direction away from the original satire these days. I still love the universe but I like to embrace the silliness! 😄 thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 🙏
@@maddokminis Some of that goofiness kinda needed to go though. For example the proportions of the Space Marines. Their original models were no bigger than a Guardsman, and the way the Armor was designed meant that it looked like someone in the armor couldn't actually move. Cue the Primaris redesigns which fit the lore size even better, offer a terrifying new helmet design, _and_ look like someone can actually move in it.
For me, if someone asked me to redesign the Russ... I'd keep the form for the most part. The turret would be wider to fit the crew it's supposed to have, and the hull would be longer to make it easier for the vehicle to cross a trench. I'd also use a different model of the battle cannon, and maybe keep the old one as a 'super' battle cannon or something.
The main concern for me is always going to be "Can the humans that are supposed to operate it, actually fit in it". If not... then something needs to be adjusted XD I personally like it when the lore and the model match up though.
I agree with you entirely about the Primaris! 🙂 I truly see that as a scale correction against regular humans 👍 as for the Russ - I’m very happy with everything except the width of the tracks! That’s why I widen mine a bit ✊ all the other stuff, including the sponsons being stupidly small can stay! 😄 - I’ve seen a lengthened 3d printed Russ and really disliked it personally (I’m too conditioned to the original I guess🤷🏼♂️) thank you for the response mate, I always enjoy hearing other hobbyist’s thoughts 🙏
@@maddokminis admittedly, I'd love to see a LR upgrade set that allows the hobbyist to make different variations of the Russ. Not the variants mind you, but the different versions made by different forge worlds, or used by specific forces (like the Armageddon pattern or the Krieg pattern).
Especially with the new HH kit that was released, GW would get a license to print money if they released such a set since the new kit can serve as _the_ new Leman Russ.
I can see how people would prefer the more boxy look.
✊ boxy works! Thanks for watching mate 👍
I personally like the original turret. Because its rounded edges reminds me of a Sherman tank🙂
That’s fair. TBH I actually like the tank as its own thing just not when it is rolling up next to Leman Russ or a Baneblade 🙂 thank you for taking the time to watch and comment 👍
That giant turret looks ridiculous
I guess it’s fits right into 40k then! 😉 thanks for watching mate 👍
Cant remember what the chaps nane is but theres great conversions on Insta using a resin turret from Mortian. Looks the biz 👌
Sounds awesome! Obviously there are many others out there who dislike the turret! Thanks for watching 👍
Me looking at the humongous cast style turret I made for my baneblade:
Well my problem was with the hatches poking out each side of the turret and chassis!
It’s interesting the different things that bug us about tanks and miniatures! 😄 the important thing is turning them into something that you like! Thanks for watching 👍
quick question, if you wanted to proxy a leman or rogal with other tanks at what scale the tank model kit would you need?
I believe it’s around 1:48 generally but I do find that with 40k being so ridiculously overpowered, this scale can feel somewhat dainty! 1:35 often works well because of this! Thanks for watching and I hope that helps! 🙂
I agree 100% ... look at real world tanks , there is a serious over hang
extra work on rivets though , adding or removing
Thank you mate, I appreciate the feedback and thanks for taking the time to watch 👍
I can pinpoint what lego pieces you used on that leman russ turret lol
A lego blaster
the base of a lever
some lever arms
a lightsaber
THE KRAGLE! 😱 Lego is definitely a go yo for me! Many folks are offended by my use of it but I don’t care! 😄 thanks for watching! 🙏
The Dorn is clearly inspired by the M26 Pershing while the Leman is a hybrid ww1/2 English inspired one. The difference in design language is excusable given the in universe eclectic nature of the Imperium. Personally, I changed all my Russ' and Chimera's to sport a more Panzer IV inspired turret.
That would explain why I’m not a fan of the Dorn turret - never did like the look of the Pershing (or the later Patton). I actually much prefer the look of the German tanks. Thanks for taking the time to tune in and share your thoughts 👍
Hey mate hope you recognise the first name. Thought I'd come check out the channel and drop a subscribe. Nice stuff mate. Getting the T-54 printing soon.
That’s very kind of you mate, I really appreciate it! Cant wait to check out the T54! Many thanks for the Sub! 👍
@maddokminis No worries I'll check out some of the other videos once I got a bit more time during the day not easy with kids waking up at 5am with in the summer holidays 😔
lol! 😄 I know your pain brother! I have two kids on school holidays myself!
@maddokminis mines 4 and all boys. So non stop fighting not sharing and them taking over my desk to play PS5 and stopping me from working on my own projects haha
I'm interested if anyone has created a riveted hull kit bash to fix the cast hull issue.
It would be a bit of work I think! However I do think it would look very good 👍 thanks for watching!
Big Dakka Dorn!!!
Waaaaaagggggh! 🤣 yes a very Orky approach to fixing a tank UGE GUNZ!! 🤣
Lea man russ.
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That new turret is ok but yeah it is just too big 😅if you could print it out at 70% is would work
I know what you mean but 70% would be a little too small for me! Can I raise you to 85% 😄 thanks for watching mate!
For me I think the Rogal Dorn just clashes too mich visually with the rest of the Guard's armoured units, with its "rounded cast" upper front hull, even though swtiching the turret out massively improved my like of the vehicle. But it unfortunately still doesn't make it fit enough for me to buy a Rogal Dorn. Just too toyish and goofy looking, and a ridiculously weird shape even for 40k
That’s fair. I’m glad I could sort out the turret quite easily 🙂 I’m most likely going to leave the hull alone as it’s not as offensive to me. Thank you for taking the time to watch and share you thoughts mate 🙏
How about this for a contoversial take my fellow tread heads: I don't really like imperial guard tanks. Unless they are FW or are baneblades.
I love the guard and I love tanks.
To this end I have 2 Macharius, 2 baneblades and 2 turreted malcador/malcadorns, and nearly everthing else is either 3rd party or converted to within an inch of it's life. Sometimes often both.
I generally like the 40k aesthetic for tanks (which is probably why I have issues with the Dorn) thanks for sharing your thoughts mate and for tuning in! 👍
I am sorry but for someone complaining about the turret's shape you do need to pay attention to your seam cleanup. There is an obvious seam and unfilled gap on the top of the Rogal main gun barrel and the fuel tanks. Otherwise nice conversion and paint job.
Oh dear my friend! You have come to the wrong place for clean seams and mould lines! 🤣🤣 it’s in the channel name “Mad Dok Minis” 🙂 seriously though I appreciate you tuning in and taking the time to comment, thanks for watching brother 👍
Interesting ideas. Personally I like the WWII meets GIJoe look of the Rogal Dorn.
That’s fair enough mate 🙂 I’m glad you found it interesting! Thanks for taking the time to tune in brother 🙏
I mean yeah the gun vs turret isn’t very 40k
I’m assuming you mean on the original?
@@maddokminis yeah it ends up just looking like a upscale Sherman when really the guard mostly take from panzers .
@@nickdavis5420 yes I think that was my basic issue with the original too 🙂 thanks for watching mate 👍
I am not a fan of that alt turret because it looks to much like a leman Russ
Well that’s kinda the idea! 😄 but yes if you like it to look different from the Russ then it’s not going to float your boat 🙂 thanks for watching mate 🙏
dude its leman like lemen brothers not lee man
Tomayto, tomahto! 🤷🏼♂️ besides I’m from the West Country, we roll differently down here! Thanks for watching 👍
Looks oversized to me.
Fair enough, thanks for tuning in!
I hate it because it doesn't look like a WWI tank, so it violates the aesthetic of the Guard.
Sorry it wasn’t for you buddy but thanks for taking the time to tune in! 👍
@@maddokminis Oh, I didn't word that correctly! I mean I hate the ROGAL DORN!
@@absalomvane7776 ah yes I see what you were saying now! Thanks man 👍
How so? It looks like an extra beefy Matilda?