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I used to run a colored plastics company. The issue you are seeing is one related to pigmentation. In order to color a plastic, you have to use a pigment, which is mixed into the plastic. Pigments are very specialized, and in the case of this run of 11 watches, I can guarantee Swatch had to use multiple sources for the various colors. This problem cannot be solved without choosing a new pigment formulation for the Neptune watch. The watch plastic is not "leaking" dye. In this case, the pigment is either incompatible with the plastic mixture or too much was put in. The "bleeding" issue will stop when the excess is wiped off. I doubt very seriously this is much of an issue with the other colors because it is likely related directly to the pigment used. This extremely common with coloring plastics, and it does not worry me as a consumer. It is also possible that excess pigment built up in the mold for the case--leaving a thin layer of excess that could come off with applied heat and liquid. Not unusual.
Thanks a lot for this insight. Indeed I had the impression, that it might be a problem of pigment powder residues not bound to the ceramic/plastic body. That would mean that a good wipe off would solve the problem. It would be worse if it is abrasion of the material from the bulk. However, that should not have passed quality control at Omega/Swatch, I am a bit surprised.
Luckily it's only $260 , I have heard many Ferrari owners have tons of problems with their cars and they are met with the same excuse " It's a Ferrari man, just enjoy it". Like you have to expect a $ 200.000 car has its faults.
If you know anything about colour, blue, especially in the cobalt range, is one of the loosest dyes known. After a few months it ought to stop bleeding.
Oh, of course. You’re a genius. Because the whole point of selecting strap is to stop the case from dying your body and clothes. Style? Comfort? It’s so last season…..
It’s a shame for Swatch (and now Omega too) having this discolouring issue on their watches! It shouldn’t happen on a $10 watch, not a Casio, a Seiko, or $250 watch nor others. This is a disgrace!
For 250 dollars this is unacceptable. My 150 dollars g-shocks never did this to me. I'm very disappointed in Swatch and Omega both. This needs to be fixed.
Blue stain should be qc issue. Its a shame they did not found this during their internal review. I'm more concern about the strength of lugs. The lug design follows original's stainless steel but material strength are totally different. Plastic is much weaker than steel. Unless swatch found way to internally reinforce the lug, Im guessing over the next months we will start to see cases of broken lugs.
@@Kletterhaus plus this isn't even just plastic, it's 70% hard ceramic with 30% castor oil thrown in to reduce brittleness. It's a very hard wearing material and it's served Swatches well despite everyone calling it plastic
@@simplyserge5000 did anything come off whilst wearing it? If not then this much to do about nothing. If you have to put some effort into it to get the outcome then it is nothing. Wear the watch and see if anything happens.
@@nolongerhuman6192 then take it back. That was not what happened here. He deliberately set out to cause this to happen rather than it happening in normal use.
I would try applying a natural car wax to the back of the watch to sort of seal or "cure" the surface. Maybe multiple coats over a few days. Rubbing waxed paper or a natural colored candle on the back of the case might work too.
Never encountered leaking dye with Swatch or any other watch brand before. Ironic that people waited in line for hours just to buy a "leaking" blue watch.
Jokes on the so called watch guys that lined up like chumps thinking they are scoring a lifetime watch. Most have never even handled a swatch. Its the big pen of watches. Its trash after a few years!
@@superfast30 it’s not Swiss for sure!! It must came from some lower manufacturing somewhere in third world country… Swiss Watch has almost got no room for errors like this :-)
The green color looks like the same color Swatch has used in the past for their bioceramic, so it makes sense that those don't bleed. And the best thing that could happen for you is a recall, and they don't produce that color anymore. I would recommend keeping it if that's the case, as It will make the value of that watch skyrocket.
@@Andy_TheGreat Yea, when it becomes a collector piece, no one will be wearing it. People pay a lot for wine you can no longer drink, or a video game you can no longer realistically play, or a car you can not dive on the road (the first cars).
Oil and alcohol is miscible. The case being 1/3 derivative of castor oil product, is suspect you’d degrade the material. I wouldn’t try that and I’d wait for an official response by Swatch.
Yes denim does that. That's why it's recommended to wash blue jeans first before wear. That's what the staff always tell me when I buy a pair of jeans. Even after the first wash, the colour can still bleed. Especially if you wear white sneakers with them.
Logically, if there is clear evidence of a leaking dye on the blue, which you have clearly demonstrated that there is, then because of the same processes being used to make all the colours then surely there must be a high likelihood that the problem exists across the whole range of colours-even if it's not visible to the naked eye. I could of course be wrong, however, this needs further investigation IMHO.
This watch is soluble - biodegrading in front of you. Can´t replace the movement or dial plastic. Disposable in every sense of the word. No option to service/fix.
I hate to be pedantic but it's Mission on Earth not to ,as we're already here .Good to see Earth is ok anyway I'd like to see a Mars tested btw as that red looks ready to leak.
Ok, really, do a better test. People doesn't sweat water. Use physiological saline solution or at least salt water in the first place. Secondly, that Earth green is more pale, so it is hard to see. Rub it a bit longer. You will wear the watch all day, not 15 seconds. That said, darker colors are more prone to losing pigment than pastel colors. So, don't say that Neptune is isolated case. Mercury and Mars might be the same as well.
Nato strap is a solution. I suspect deep colour case will have this problem as it uses more colour compound. But the watch is not supposed to be used in moist condition so normal usage may be alright just unsightly.
Dont buy something that are mass produced, dont eat at the restaurant that are too busy. Its basically the same meaning when you buy something.. you will have problem with the product because there is low QC
“Oh no, don’t return it. They are going to rectify for the new production and this badge are going to be really really rare and value keep hiking!” they’d say… lol
Perhaps is residue from the dye from the construction. Could you try watch carefully behind the watch with soapy water. Let ii dry and then test again. A little, like what happens with blue jeans.
Honestly I was waiting for them to appears online for MSRP to grab one, but the more I see reviews about that watch the less I want to buy. Yes, they are fun, and has great Speedy vibe, but $260 for them is way too much as you can buy very decent quartz chrono for similar price point. No, they won't have "Omega" logo on them, but they will be stainless steel, with decent crystal, decent strap or bracelet or both, and fully serviceable which means will serve you for decades. Something like Dan Henry 1964, or Bulova Lunar Pilot, or Orient Neo 70s they are the same price, but lightyears ahead specs wise, especially Bulova Lunar Pilot which for $20 extra will come with two straps, sapphire crystal, and high-frequency quartz with +/-10 seconds a year accuracy. If you know what you are buying and ready to waste $260 for a plastic watch, go ahead, but if you really want a good deal which will serve you well and long - please look elsewhere.
I would respectfully disagree with your conclusion. It's not that the issue is isolated to the Neptune it's that based on your testing the Mission to Earth variant does not appear to have the issue. You can't say anything else about the others based on your testing...
‘Bio ceramic’ yeah right Swatch just make it out of full ceramic & glass & charge us another $100 which we’ll happily pay for the better quality & would only cost u another $2-$3 anyways
hahaha.. oh man.. so putting OMEGA on a plastic Quartz watch does not magically make it OMEGA quality... this will be a scandal for someone in OMEGA to put their brand name so. casually on this piece of crap....
I've recently adquired the Mission to Neptune and I think the bezel it's a sticker which is kinda disappointing because I wanted to wear it more frequently. And now with the decoloration problem I'm even more scared to use it and wash my hands with the watch on my wrist
@@PasanJayaweeraYashoda Yeah like the Seiko 5 which is a high quality automatic watch that cost $100 less than this made of full stainless steel & glass
My new sapphire sandwich had condensation on the inside that put up on the front crystal sooooo..ya...i dont know seems like swatch group quality control isnt the best.
The fact that you can buy a Chinese knock off that actually has a removable back to swap batteries and the lens is actually some kind of glass/crystal speaks volumes about how cheap they went with the actual real watch. Disappointing.
I think the combination of Ceramic and plastic resin and dye are not compatible. Omega Swatcg need to find a solution fast. Recall all those that leak Colors those who bought them will most probably not return it as it truly becomes Limited Editon
I used to run a colored plastics company. The issue you are seeing is one related to pigmentation. In order to color a plastic, you have to use a pigment, which is mixed into the plastic. Pigments are very specialized, and in the case of this run of 11 watches, I can guarantee Swatch had to use multiple sources for the various colors. This problem cannot be solved without choosing a new pigment formulation for the Neptune watch. The watch plastic is not "leaking" dye. In this case, the pigment is either incompatible with the plastic mixture or too much was put in. The "bleeding" issue will stop when the excess is wiped off. I doubt very seriously this is much of an issue with the other colors because it is likely related directly to the pigment used. This extremely common with coloring plastics, and it does not worry me as a consumer. It is also possible that excess pigment built up in the mold for the case--leaving a thin layer of excess that could come off with applied heat and liquid. Not unusual.
Is it toxic? - WW
bio ceramics? plastic hye';.....
Thanks a lot for this insight. Indeed I had the impression, that it might be a problem of pigment powder residues not bound to the ceramic/plastic body. That would mean that a good wipe off would solve the problem. It would be worse if it is abrasion of the material from the bulk. However, that should not have passed quality control at Omega/Swatch, I am a bit surprised.
Pete and Drake. Bollocks...its just bad engineering......
@@steven2809 Bollocks! :) Looking forward to my first UK trip in June. Can't wait to say bollucks and bloody and Jeremy Clarkson in the old country:)
Good to confirm it for sure. Hope all the colors get tested.
Deal with it. This whole collab is utter garbage.
People saying 'it's a $260 watch, what do you expect?'
Well, I expect a watch that doesn't bleed chemicals into me apparently. 😂😂
Swatch from 80 euro don't bleed chemicals 🤷♂️
You can buy $250 dollar seiko automatic stainless steel watch. This watch deserve $50
@@BluePandaa284 yet some people are buying them around 1-2k right now
My 150 dollars gshock never did this to me. 260 dollars is quite expensive for what this is.
Luckily it's only $260 , I have heard many Ferrari owners have tons of problems with their cars and they are met with the same excuse " It's a Ferrari man, just enjoy it". Like you have to expect a $ 200.000 car has its faults.
Having a leak from Neptune is better than getting a leak from Uranus 🥴
Give it a rest... childish!
Best comment yet.
Houston …….. We have a Problem 👨🚀
I’m not too bothered as will only wear it once in a blue moon.
😂😂😂 genius
If you know anything about colour, blue, especially in the cobalt range, is one of the loosest dyes known.
After a few months it ought to stop bleeding.
Put it on a nato strap sorted😊
Because the NATO will definitely cover the whole caseback 🤡
You missed the point.
Yes Nato it
Oh, of course. You’re a genius. Because the whole point of selecting strap is to stop the case from dying your body and clothes. Style? Comfort? It’s so last season…..
I’m hoping Uranus doesn’t leak🤣🤣
🤣🤣
😆😆
There is medicine for that
Someone had to say it
@@KG-ro8ft Asking for a friend really???lol
A wet Q-tip will rub the dye right off an Omega Swatch and my old truck would get stuck on a wet Q-tip. Never underestimate their unthinkable power.
I'm intrigued by these watches. My first thought is that you are exceeding the 3 Bar water rating with a wet q tip
It’s a shame for Swatch (and now Omega too) having this discolouring issue on their watches! It shouldn’t happen on a $10 watch, not a Casio, a Seiko, or $250 watch nor others. This is a disgrace!
For 250 dollars this is unacceptable. My 150 dollars g-shocks never did this to me. I'm very disappointed in Swatch and Omega both. This needs to be fixed.
My $70 G Shock are far higher quality with a glass screen aswell, this is so disappointing
The question will be if the plastics/dye has BPA or other toxic aspects. BPA is usually with flexible plastics.
I'll be buying these versions before Swatch changes the pigment and it'll become a limited series!
Nice you will also have the few watches that Give you cancer from the paint lol
i'm so confused a project this big and they let this pass their qc.
often enough, the increasing size of a project create compromises in quality due to management and deadline pressure
$520 of hard earned cash well spent! Any more buyers or flippers?
Sounds like mission to Smurfs
You can also assume that this Swatch will ruin a white shirt's sleeve collar. Nice!
Blue stain should be qc issue. Its a shame they did not found this during their internal review.
I'm more concern about the strength of lugs. The lug design follows original's stainless steel but material strength are totally different. Plastic is much weaker than steel. Unless swatch found way to internally reinforce the lug, Im guessing over the next months we will start to see cases of broken lugs.
It’s “bioceramic” ;p
i don't really think this is going to be a problem, good plastic can be very strong
@@Kletterhaus plus this isn't even just plastic, it's 70% hard ceramic with 30% castor oil thrown in to reduce brittleness. It's a very hard wearing material and it's served Swatches well despite everyone calling it plastic
They've been making plastic watch for centuries
Moment of silence for those who bought the Neptune model.
I'm getting the Mercury 😁
Would you really want a replacement even thought THIS is the watch you waited in the cold for?
I would trade it for another Neptune that didn’t leak. Or Uranus, Jupiter, mercury
@@simplyserge5000 did anything come off whilst wearing it? If not then this much to do about nothing. If you have to put some effort into it to get the outcome then it is nothing. Wear the watch and see if anything happens.
Idiots waited hours in line for a plastic watch now they are disappointed with the quality..
Get a speedy Ed white, there is no blue
@@nolongerhuman6192 then take it back. That was not what happened here. He deliberately set out to cause this to happen rather than it happening in normal use.
I would try applying a natural car wax to the back of the watch to sort of seal or "cure" the surface. Maybe multiple coats over a few days. Rubbing waxed paper or a natural colored candle on the back of the case might work too.
How do you know person that likes to stand in a que? His wrist looks like Smurf.
Never encountered leaking dye with Swatch or any other watch brand before. Ironic that people waited in line for hours just to buy a "leaking" blue watch.
Proprietary product means they concealed the defects
Jokes on the so called watch guys that lined up like chumps thinking they are scoring a lifetime watch. Most have never even handled a swatch. Its the big pen of watches. Its trash after a few years!
Who to blame? Swatch or Omega?
@@Out-Of-The-Box-AU Swatch...Other than the name, there is nothing Omega in it!
@@superfast30 it’s not Swiss for sure!! It must came from some lower manufacturing somewhere in third world country…
Swiss Watch has almost got no room for errors like this :-)
A watch worth dyeing for.
Wow how does that pass quality inspection during manufacturing
The green color looks like the same color Swatch has used in the past for their bioceramic, so it makes sense that those don't bleed. And the best thing that could happen for you is a recall, and they don't produce that color anymore. I would recommend keeping it if that's the case, as It will make the value of that watch skyrocket.
Bioceramic is just a fancy term for plastic! 🤣
It’s actually 60-70% ceramic.
Sky rocket a watch that can possibly leak color in your skin? Lol
@@Andy_TheGreat Yea, when it becomes a collector piece, no one will be wearing it. People pay a lot for wine you can no longer drink, or a video game you can no longer realistically play, or a car you can not dive on the road (the first cars).
Class action coming, wonder if it's also a health issue?
Any news on Pluto having this issue?
Will wiping away the dye with rubbing alcohol help? Maybe it'll remove it to the extent that it no longer bleeds colour
Imagine the watch turning white lol
Oil and alcohol is miscible. The case being 1/3 derivative of castor oil product, is suspect you’d degrade the material. I wouldn’t try that and I’d wait for an official response by Swatch.
@@Samuel-qe9lj moonswap..from blue to white (Trademark of Swamega)
Try spraying it with impregnating spray like the one you use to waterproof your shoes and it will be fine
Like other swatch watches these are not serviceable?
this is
How to tell if your moonswatch authentic
Is this also a problem with the Saturn? That's the one I like the most
legal action for toxic poisoning .All owners need to sue Swatch .
Maybe the dye is residual from the mold. Why not wipe the case down with a cloth and some water and then re-test.
That's not how injection moulding works.....🙄
I did the same experiment with my new jeans and found out that the blue dye also rubs off on my chairs, couch, car seats. 🤣
I was just about on the verge of writing about blue jeans, you got there first!
Yes denim does that. That's why it's recommended to wash blue jeans first before wear. That's what the staff always tell me when I buy a pair of jeans. Even after the first wash, the colour can still bleed. Especially if you wear white sneakers with them.
Wow what a complete waste of money just get a G shock instead
Great video
Logically, if there is clear evidence of a leaking dye on the blue, which you have clearly demonstrated that there is, then because of the same processes being used to make all the colours then surely there must be a high likelihood that the problem exists across the whole range of colours-even if it's not visible to the naked eye. I could of course be wrong, however, this needs further investigation IMHO.
It doesn’t have to be applicable for any other color. It can be but coloring doesn’t work like this in plastic and ceramic material
This watch is soluble - biodegrading in front of you. Can´t replace the movement or dial plastic. Disposable in every sense of the word. No option to service/fix.
@@Televisiontechnology 😂 you need to look up the definition of biodegradable.
Not true at all. Could certainly just be one color.
@@KABCDEFGH you missed it, sarcasm. Perhaps you’re American ;-)
The real question is will it continue indefinitely or is it a temporary issue from the very outer surface only?
Excellent job! Well done to Omega for putting their once (but no longer) prestigious name to this overhyped piece of plastic cr*p.
Karrekt
Oh you were fast on that green one. One wipe: "no it's good, oh I guess it's fine uh, thank you Jesus"
Hahaha
I hate to be pedantic but it's Mission on Earth not to ,as we're already here .Good to see Earth is ok anyway I'd like to see a Mars tested btw as that red looks ready to leak.
Wipe it off a few times to see if it stops.
Yes wash it gently as it's not very water proof, may just be a thin layer of color.
That's a secret promo, those who got the neptune and claimed for replacement will get an expensive omega speedmaster moonwatch from omega
Yeah sure, probably a gold one!
All the hype for a regular swatch watch that should not cost over 100 bucks
Yes,only a mug would buy these cheap watches!
Breaking News! You need to use headline this is that. Good job!
imagine the leak on the mars watch !
Would be very interesting to know
How about scratches in the crystal?
Plexi polish just like the OG
The dye is probably fine. If you only wear blue shirts!
Ok, really, do a better test. People doesn't sweat water. Use physiological saline solution or at least salt water in the first place. Secondly, that Earth green is more pale, so it is hard to see. Rub it a bit longer. You will wear the watch all day, not 15 seconds. That said, darker colors are more prone to losing pigment than pastel colors. So, don't say that Neptune is isolated case. Mercury and Mars might be the same as well.
Thank you that is really useful to know!!
Oh we see that. Indeed
Nato strap is a solution. I suspect deep colour case will have this problem as it uses more colour compound. But the watch is not supposed to be used in moist condition so normal usage may be alright just unsightly.
discountenanced quality issue
Important info Thanks
huh, really wanted the Neptune, too.
It's not a limited run so just wait a bit til mk 2 comes out. People queuing for these is just silly, there'll be no shortage.
They need to do something about this at very least fix it.
Dont buy something that are mass produced, dont eat at the restaurant that are too busy. Its basically the same meaning when you buy something.. you will have problem with the product because there is low QC
Im mostly interested in the Moon, Mercury, and Pluto variants. Wonder if these have the same issue?
He's testing the Neptune in the video and it does have the problem.
The Mars one ??
@@andreiaugustin3809 Youre right. I totally blanked out. I meant the Mercury not Neptune haha, too much blue for my liking. Fixing the comment.
I’m too old and grey to notice if the Moon is an issue 👨🏼🦳🥴😂
Its a "cheap" plastic watch, with a battery.
Swatch will correct the dye formulation and correct.
Thanks dude 👍🏻
“Oh no, don’t return it. They are going to rectify for the new production and this badge are going to be really really rare and value keep hiking!” they’d say… lol
What liquid did you putno the cue tip?
Perhaps is residue from the dye from the construction. Could you try watch carefully behind the watch with soapy water. Let ii dry and then test again. A little, like what happens with blue jeans.
Honestly I was waiting for them to appears online for MSRP to grab one, but the more I see reviews about that watch the less I want to buy. Yes, they are fun, and has great Speedy vibe, but $260 for them is way too much as you can buy very decent quartz chrono for similar price point. No, they won't have "Omega" logo on them, but they will be stainless steel, with decent crystal, decent strap or bracelet or both, and fully serviceable which means will serve you for decades. Something like Dan Henry 1964, or Bulova Lunar Pilot, or Orient Neo 70s they are the same price, but lightyears ahead specs wise, especially Bulova Lunar Pilot which for $20 extra will come with two straps, sapphire crystal, and high-frequency quartz with +/-10 seconds a year accuracy.
If you know what you are buying and ready to waste $260 for a plastic watch, go ahead, but if you really want a good deal which will serve you well and long - please look elsewhere.
but I want my watch to say Omega so its a hard buy for me lol
It is the miracle of the bioceramic!!!!!!
I would respectfully disagree with your conclusion. It's not that the issue is isolated to the Neptune it's that based on your testing the Mission to Earth variant does not appear to have the issue. You can't say anything else about the others based on your testing...
‘Bio ceramic’ yeah right Swatch just make it out of full ceramic & glass & charge us another $100 which we’ll happily pay for the better quality & would only cost u another $2-$3 anyways
How can you say it is isolated just to the Neptune? You did not try all of the other ones?
Blue is a colour that usually runs.
The workaround you might want to try is to apply clear nail polish.
Nice swatch
People are lining up by the blocks for this???? 🤪🤪
Leaking is not the right word.
I mean, this watch IS an Omega. And now people are saying it's no big deal that it's literally leaking color, lol.
This was just a batch made specially for Scotland, wrong delivery place, bloody couriers.
Go William Wallace 🏴
Is the leeching dye poisonous? That can't be good for you..
Skin cancer
you don't want an exchange! these will be the ones worth the most money...
The real question is after u clean all the blue u can off does it continue to bleed or is it just on the surface..
Eventually your whole skin will assume Martian red hue, I think this only speaks good things about being commited to this watch
they are like Chameleons, The SwatchOmegaMeleon , havw a new color speedy everyday of the week haha :)
how about jupiter & mercury? it bleeds too?
If there is no cap, How to change the battery ?!
This watch is cheap for a sake or Omega name on it, but it is too expensive for a cheap plastic swatch watch.
hahaha.. oh man.. so putting OMEGA on a plastic Quartz watch does not magically make it OMEGA quality... this will be a scandal for someone in OMEGA to put their brand name so. casually on this piece of crap....
It demonstrates how a name can draw people in like suckers! What a one dimensional world we all live in…
This is a disaster for Omega and there are clowns out here saying this was "Marketing genius" for them. Give me a break.
Y'all really need to stop buying those shitters
its a 50 dollar plastic watch which became 260 thanks to the omega branding and design....
What a bummer
Interesting
It’s both!, use a scope on it !, you will see something !.
All my Speedmasters have metal cases!
What a shame Swatch has brought to Omega
I've recently adquired the Mission to Neptune and I think the bezel it's a sticker which is kinda disappointing because I wanted to wear it more frequently. And now with the decoloration problem I'm even more scared to use it and wash my hands with the watch on my wrist
😂 what did you expect from a $260 mass produced watch?
@@kkrsnn5632 there are very good 200$ mass produced watches that will last a lifetime (even Swiss mechanical ones if you did bit of searching)
@@PasanJayaweeraYashoda exactly 😁
@@PasanJayaweeraYashoda Yeah like the Seiko 5 which is a high quality automatic watch that cost $100 less than this made of full stainless steel & glass
@@nathanchang7713 exactly. newer seiko 5s are around 200$ with hacking and handwinding movements with better water resistance as well
Its why the real ones cost $7k and not $270. Cheap plasticky replicas arent going to do the same job.
My new sapphire sandwich had condensation on the inside that put up on the front crystal sooooo..ya...i dont know seems like swatch group quality control isnt the best.
The fact that you can buy a Chinese knock off that actually has a removable back to swap batteries and the lens is actually some kind of glass/crystal speaks volumes about how cheap they went with the actual real watch. Disappointing.
I think the combination of Ceramic and plastic resin and dye are not compatible. Omega Swatcg need to find a solution fast. Recall all those that leak Colors those who bought them will most probably not return it as it truly becomes Limited Editon
you get monkeys when you pay peanuts
Yup because their no better than any watch in a bargain bin at your local Walmart