Dr. Malone is a saint for doing this interview. I'm a neuro and a healthcare attorney in NY & it would be scary for most physicians to come out here and speak this level of truth. Children need to be protected. I love what he said at the first part of the interview: we're not just a collection of neutral tissue that reacts to either hormone bath. At chromosomal, cellular level and neurological levels, your sex is male or female. I know he didn't even go into the neurological effects of administering puberty blockers and particularly administering testosterone to females, but trust me - that could be an entire separate interview (which I hope you'll do). Nobody who understands the health implications would subject themselves or their children to "transgender medicalization."
As a healthcare attorney, I hope you will speak out about the harms being done with transgender "medicine". We need professionals in the know to speak out. Otherwise, how can families possibly help their children and youth who experience gender dysphoria?
I am a person that legally changed their sex and do not support transgender at all. I hate transgender being confused with transsexual as they are not the same thing. I think a lot of conservatives are not connecting the dots to falling testosterone and sperm counts and endocrine disruptors and fetal sexual brain development. Back in the 70's Dr.Norman Fisk began transition a wide variety of people that were not transsexuals by Harry Benjamin's classic transsexual. There are transvestites that want to live fulltime as women both heterosexual and gay. They identify 100% as their birth sex! Someone like me will tell you yes I understand why my birth certificate was listed as this and why. But I will not tell you I am 100% biological male. How cab you be born this way and be 100% male? My thinking is my brain sex was altered before I was born. Your brain is biological and so is your nervous system.There goes the 100% biological.male but I am also not 100% biologically female either. Add in hormones and surgery and I don't believe either scientifically or biblicly to say I am male. With these kids and adults I do not trust the lgbtq activist or feminist to get it right on who to transition. The court is allowing them to bully millions of Americans around the world tobsupport their gender is purely a social construct crap! Just because you bully and oppress people into silence really doesn't prove gender is a social construct! With the,parents and kids they are playing psychological warfare games to hide the real truth from them! The kids from the last twenty years are not only guinea pigs on hormone blockers but also in being brainwashed to identify as an argueably illegally adopted and promoted umbrella term transgender and property of the lgbtq/ gay community for life. I am telling you the switch to the word transgender and creation of the lgbtq has caused way worse mental illlness and suicides. The fighting within in it is sick!
Right now, the topic is too hot, but in the future I think there will be a lot of lawsuits. Or, I hope there will be. I'm a woman who was given synthetic testosterone/steroids called Danazol. It was many years ago and I was given no warning as to what the consequences would be. All I know is it made me so insane that I refused the treatment again, no matter how much the doctors pushed it. Now I'm in my 60s and I'm dealing with all kinds of effects. My family members live til they are in their 90s and beyond and I dread what more is coming. Administering all these hormones, without long term studies, is criminal.
@@MargotDarby what's an example of them using the terminology incorrectly? Also, if you go to the linked document there are a bunch of peer reviewed articles if you want evidence for these claims.
Dr. William Malone is a voice crying in the wilderness. He is a very brave man. We need more alpha men and leaders like him. Benjamin, thanks for this interview.
"If you are not holding your ground, your fight or flight system gets you ready to be taken advantage of at any point in time- your resources, your food, your mate- and that creates a constant state of anxiety.." Such a wealth of matter for thought in this interview.
I have been following you since Evergreen. My wife and I have been patronizing your content, intensively, since you bravely took on the topic of transgenderism. The haters will tell you it is not your place, among other subversive fallacies. Thanks for hanging tough and staying inquisitive. We have a 20 month old, and hope that humanity can work through these harmful trends, for all of our sakes.
Near the start Dr Malone said that puberty blockers inhibit the body's natural recovery from gender disphoria. I'd never thought of it that way before but it makes sense.
Indeed. Who *isn't* confused about who they are during puberty? That's pretty much the point of puberty, and stopping the process to end confusion is double-plus crazy.
@Christopher Heskett For a lot of people, the end of puberty is the end of many of their self-image problems and neuroses. Many of the psychological problems that arise during puberty subside, at least somewhat, in adulthood. If you want an example, you can go to my channel and watch the video I made called "I'm glad I didn't transition"
Obey the Cult of Cybele! A bunch of boys that loose compassion, love and, tenderness when they get to puberty and a bunch of girls that are told if the want to succeed or have power in life that they were born the wrong sex.. results seem pretty predictable to me.
Not being a doctor let alone an endocrinologist , just having some common sense, this kind of treatment looked extremely dangerous to me from the very start. But it is great to hear the details from someone who understands the body's function and the endocrine system.
they never told me my eyes would get blurry and hurt, or that id be shaking constantly, or the constant panic attacks im still suffering. and i was on it for 18 days. 18 DAYS!
This doctor actually puts his patient's well being beyond anything else. Many doctors should go back to their Hippocratic Oath, and reflect on it for a while..
*Important meta-point* @ 46:05... affirmation therapy "runs contrary to how we practice medicine in every other area. If the brain and body are in conflict, we work on the brain, we don't work on the body."
@Sacha Barbie Does it work? What about the multiple studies showing suicide rates remain unchanged from trans individuals with surgery/hormones compared to ones without, or the phenomenon of detransition, the factors of infertility, cardiovascular problems and other complications with surgery. im not going to say flat out it does not work, except in the most sense that changing your body at a cellular level is impossible foor us now. But i can't believe there is clear evidence of it's working given these other facts.
My pre-existing bias on this topic is I think the pharmaceutical and plastic surgery industries are immoral and scammy. This interview reaffirms my view.
Buttercup do you realize that the vast majority of what dermatologists work on is related to skin cancer, which is one of the deadliest forms of cancer? And not just pimples and microdermabrasion? As someone who has sat in the dermatological surgeons office for 7 hours having Moh’s surgery to remove cancer from my nose, I found that out the hard way. And I was very glad for the skill of the plastic surgeon that was able to fix the giant scar that the quarter sized cancer that had grown roots into my nose had left once they had dug it out had healed Yes there are unethical doctors in Beverly Hills giving people like the Kardashian’s unnatural looking bodies, and turning people like the Bogdanoff twins or the Human Ken doll into human freaks. But there are legitimate needs for these doctors as well. Especially dermatologists
Okay than don't cry about your close relative dying because of a pneumonia, because "bad" pharmaceutical companies won't provide you with needed antibiotics. Don't be so narrow minded. Pharma is important for people ,plastic surgery is important for victims of war, chemical or fire burns etc.
@@reggieshmeggie4219 in my country the anti biotics we have access to are called generic medicine that Americans do not have access to. I am assuming you are american. Out of patent medicine is very cheap for us and are not supplied by the corrupt american big pharma.
I think this is why if you try and search the internet for studies about the success rate of hormone therapy you find statistics, with no explanation of where they came from, sample size, or how long the study was conducted. However If you check out suicide and attempted suicide rates from the center of suicide prevention it becomes clear that hormone therapy, while having initial success in lowering these rates, lose their helpful utility after 5 to 10 years. I personally have a friend who came out as trans, refused to see a psychiatrist, and was able to shop around for doctors until she found one who immediately prescribed hormones. This was a general practitioner mind you. It's madness.
Yes - isn't he a breath of fresh air? The polarity between his elocution and the Frankenspeak of delusion currently holding court, is quite frightening, really.
Unfortunately he just sounds like he knows his stuff about this. He doesn’t actually. He is an endocrinologist not a psychologist, he can judge the physical effects of the treatment but he can’t judge whether it’s actually worthwhile. A lot of what he says that’s unrelated to endocrinology is gotten from questionable sources or is misinterpreted. It’s easy to see if you look into his research guide after having looked into more relating to this issue.
@Max Raider - Nothing to do with feminists. Radical Feminists (radical meaning The root) are against gender ideology but we have been banned and shut down from speaking.
Thank you Benjamin for continuing this series and having this doctor in particular on your show. You are truly making a difference with what you’re doing, and I’m sure countless lives are or will be saved as a result.
I'm amazed at he ease with which we are accepting of a opinion based social movement but then look back to commonly held beliefs from the past. Like when a train travelling 15 m per hours was considered to be dangerous enough to turn the lungs inside out. ( Until it was shown to be otherwise.) If we have the medical/ scientific/ fact based data as we do in this instant, why is this gaining such reactions? A trans woman is a woman (gender) but a trans woman is not female! (sex). xx
This was a another excellent interview. What strikes me the most is the almost surreal point we have reached where objective truth is simply ignored by a large sector of a profession (medicine). Reality is even ignored: as Dr Malone stated, there is a cognitive dissonance when it comes to this *particular topic: in any other case, a doctor would reform the mind to suit reality, but in *this case, all of reality is supposed to be changed to suit the mind. He didn't mention it, but of course that also means that everyone else is supposed to go along with what they KNOW to be objectively untrue. It is surreal.
Another great interview! I so wish the so-called trans "community" encouraged a more critical and cautious perspective on medicalization. After over 5 years on testosterone, I am still learning about the risks and long-term effects. These are things that, had I been told any of this or found any of this research easily prior to my medicalization, I would have desisted. Thank you so much for airing more facts about this horrific system. Patients cannot provide informed consent when the non-affirming information is blocked.
Miranda Yardley (a recent guest) seems to employ a more critical and cautious perspective however he has been pilloried for it by thr Trans-lobby. Why is it that de-transitioners are silenced?
I wish your health all the best. I hope you were one of the lucky ones in regards to side effects. I wish you all the best in regards to your journey of finding your identity :)
@@seekerout I have considered it but, primarily due to A) That practitioner no longer practicing in transition medicalization, & B) I currently live out-of-State of that practitioner, I have decided not to follow through with any legal proceedings. If, however, that doctor were still prescribing hormones in the same manner, I would absolutely bring that to light.
@@orioleaszme3415 Thank you for your kind words. I have had a lot of difficulty healing from the amount of testosterone I was on and for how long I was on it. But, my body is recovering well and I am on the up. I have come to identify as a detransitioned woman and, while I experience some dysphoria still, I am very happy with who I was born to be.
"happy insulin" LOL. Seriously this was a most excellent talk. Not only about the gender dysphoria and trans-genderism but the ending regarding stress and health. He sounds like a really compassionate MD. Great interview and guest.
Jordan Peterson spoke about this topic in an interview. He said something like 20 years for now, when lawsuits start getting filed against doctors and parents who did this to children, and he said this will absolutely happen, we will look back on this episode and wonder exactly what the hell we were thinking. To me this looks like horrible parenting bordering on child abuse.
Two years after this interview and your comment, it's more than obvious that if this practice and its social consequences are left unchecked, we'll be in a sorry state in 20 years.
Let's be honest here, in 20 years the people involved with these experiments will be remembered as monsters. The victims will eventually begin coming through in waves.
just watched this (2023), but I appreciate Dr Malone for speaking the truth... however, the last part of the interview blew my mind. Validated my thoughts and feelings about stress and setting boundaries. So, I watched this to educate myself further on trans issues, and in the end, found information to help me! Thank you both
Seriously. I simply can't wrap my head around parents advocating this treatment fro their children. They won't let them stay up past 11pm, but trust them when they say they're the opposing gender and need this treatment. What the absolute fuck is wrong with these parents? I find the treatment of prepubescent children with hormone therapy to be beyond reprehensible. I've tried, but I simply can't comprehend why anyone would do this to their children. Fucking disgusting.
@@nocturne000 I don't see why parents would allow or have their child put on the puberty blockers or hormones for something such as this. I do know a couple of mothers who did choose to have their daughters put on birth control that stopped their daughters periods. Their daughters were both VERY young.. one I know for a fact was only 6 yrs old. And she had honest to God began having her period at the age of 6. It was a joint decision they had made with specialist to put them on birthcontrol. It actually helped the little girls. Imagine being in 1st grade and having your period. Thats entirely too much for a baby that young. Once they reached the age puberty, they were taken off birthcontrol and they went on about their lives as they would have. Both moms were concerned and worried that there may future issues as far as fertility once they reached adulthood. I hope that there weren't. Those girls are now adults. Hopefully they didn't have any issues. That was medical treatment to supress premature puberty. Not stop it all together.
Sad thing is it's not just a trend with teens. It's now spreading to parents claiming their babies and toddlers are trans and or raising them non binary. Look at the Foster parents who just won a case against child abuse because they are claiming 3 or more of their foster children are transgender!! A judge ruled in their favor😱 against children/youth services. One child maybe, two possibly, but three! All three children???????
Thank you so much for all of the work you have done with these interviews. I have been fascinated by them and listen to every single one of them as we are going through this in my family and it is the most devastating thing I have ever had to deal with. So many people tell us that we are emotionally abusive because we do not accept her as our son. This came about when she was 16 1/2 and the story sounds so familiar. Every support group I join I hear the same story being told over and over. It is crazy what is happening. I would love to share the entire story but it is very personal to my family. But I just wanted to thank you Benjamin for the work that you have been doing. I hope at some point I can get my daughter to listen to this because she tells me she knows someone who has been on testosterone for 10 years and they are perfectly fine and healthy.
I think you'll have to try to keep an open mind as much as you can. These things are so difficult for parents and it's hard to know how things will eventually turn out. Some children come to accept their biological sex but parents struggle with their sexuality, for example.
Jazz Jennings was on puberty blockers and it made her male genitalia so underdeveloped that her doctors were unable to perform the bottom surgery that she wanted in the way that she was hoping. She ended up having complications so terrible that her doctors said it was the most difficult case they had experienced. Puberty blockers are terrible. They're even terrible for trans people. I don't understand how they're legal
Never intende for Trans id children. Intended for early onset puberty & even those people have experienced terrible effects. Jazz may well have grown to be a gay man. But the blockers gave him a micro penis and likely effected maturity. And the life on social media horrific.
Jake Dean oh really? I know that viagra was (accidentally) developed for men with prostate cancer because the treatment basically chemically castrated them. But I didn’t realize that the same hormones that were used as puberty blockers were used to treat prostate cancer
@Jake Dean GRnH blockers such as Lupron were originally developed as chemotherapy for various cancers but with use in endometriosis in females and prostate cancer in males. Either way they should not be used on children.
It's clear, to me at least, that 'affirmation therapy' is simply indulging emotional immaturity - and the confusion and anxiety it inspires, with instant gratification. It takes strength of character, patience, and yes - love, to truly treat gender dysphoria effectively. Affirming adolescent insecurity is the opposite IMHO.
Exactly. When infantilization is encouraged and celebrated, especially because its accompanying power point political oppression victimization is held high as the maximum experiential correctness - seriously tough people will sit up and take notice, and begin planning no end of exploitation of that fact.
I dated a woman who had body dis-morphia, a mental illness with a comparable and even higher rate of suicide. She of course wasn't told to get plastic surgery. How is "gender dysphoria" any different from some form of dissociative disorder?
@@spookytoothable1911 I read my comment back and realized my question doesn't sound as rhetorical as I meant it to be. I was just trying to throw a thought in with your comment that I thought might relate in the sense of the correct treatment of gender dysphoria. I find it odd that we put it in a different category than other similar disorders and use affirmation as a treatment. This is especially reprehensible in young people as like you said, it's their insecurity that's being taken advantage of. Sorry for being confusing, but thank you for the reply.
I will never forget my first visit ever to an endocrinologist, back in Greenville, NC. He had no idea of what to prescribe me because he had never had any patients like me before so he asked: “What do you think?” I was caught by surprise. Then he said: “Maybe we can try to replicate what you were taking in Brazil?” (Where I used to self-medicate as a teenager!) Dang. I googled “Perlutan” and we went from there. Literally just like that.
I'm a 24 y/o cis gendered male having gender"problems" & have been really considering hormones and transitioning and this has been very eye opening & am sad to see how u have less than 60000 subs and do see the media's pro transgenderism bias if those r the correct words to express my msg, thanks for the knowledge
Trans person here who's wanting to desist. Yes, all of what he's saying is true. I've tried to have conversations with fellow trans peeps about 'is this right? Are we doing the right thing here?' and I've gotten yelled out, canceled etc. I've had one statement of, 'Just because you got prescribed titty skittles too quick doesn't mean you're right!' and then they'll 'shut down' and 'I can't even' and poof, there went your support group. Now that I'm waking up, it's toxic AF. Stay away.
Ĺinda Rothera they wouldn’t have any ground to stand on. They’d be the ones who were stupid enough to make a choice that would ruin their lives. It’s not the medical professionals’ faults that they were doing their jobs.
@@Vearru Not true. We go to the professionals for advice, guidance and services because we are not experts. This morning on the BBC, the CEO of the Tavistock clinic said that puberty blockers are totally reversible. A lie, but a lie that is being repeated by the so-called experts.
The medical and scientific professions need to lead on this issue. They are the only body capable of understanding and accessing the risks and benefits of different treatments on the patients health. These experts need the freedom to research and debate without being abused and silenced by lobbyists.
The ROGD affecting young women and girls reminds me of the pro-anorexia thing that was going on when I was a teenager. Girls would go to web forums to learn to be anorexic, and they did it for the same reasons as the girls now want to be trans: discomfort with the physical changes of puberty and unwanted sexual attention and harassment they get.
It's interesting that the Dutch model was mentioned. I grew up in the Netherlands in the 80s and early 90s and I remember the culture already dealing with this topic in a a very natural way. I remember a tv show where a biological boy told that he actually felt like a girl and that his big dream was to as an adult become a woman. Mind you, as an adult. Later I had a personal friend who suffered from great mental health issues. At some point he started to identify as female and applied for corrective surgery. He had to go through an extensive process of counseling and psychological evaluation before he could have access to such surgery. In the end he was diagnosed with manic depressive personality disorder for which he now receives treatment. He now feels at ease in his masculine identity. I feel that the whole irony of this situation is that the most ideological pressure to adjust comes from some of the most uptight countries regarding transgenderism and gender norms (basically the us) As a child I used to dress up in female clothes and put makeup on my face. Thank god my parents and culture had the sanity to realize this was just about having an interest for the theatrical rather than some form of dysphoria (I'm not gay by the way, in case anyone is wondering)
Ben, thank you for having Dr. Mallone on. He and the other brave doctor's speaking up on this are so important. These poor kids are being experimented on. The truth needs to come out.
I would really appreciate a conversation 2 years on between you both. Fascinating insights, your perspectives on ‘then and now’ with regards to what was discussed would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for your diligent work and orientation to truth. 😀
I resonated a lot with the last part. I've always been known as the person that everybody can go to if they need to talk, always understanding, supportive, always smiling etc. but have felt a growing exhaustion coming from that role, especially because I never said 'stop'. And while I'm always smiling and everyone feels within seconds that they can tell me anything, inside I'm constantly anxious, worrying I've done something wrong, I can hardly stop my thoughts etc. So it made a lot of sense to me. Thank you!
I'm genuinely scared by the fact that a scientific doctor is becoming more rare. . . As if we're living in the Middle Ages instead of the 21st century. 🤦🏾♀️ Medicine *_should_* be one of the fields that's inherently safe from anti-scientific dogma; but it's under threat these days like everything else.
@@zxyatiywariii8 if you really want to terrify yourself get a copy of "bad bharma" by ben goldacre. although this stuff is beyond that, this is actual religious bigots with chips on their shoulders destroying lives in the name of science.
@Fionabuster D. it really does seem western civilsation is under attack on many fronts, like death by a thousand cuts... we're being demoralised and gaslit. try to walk your average guy on the street through, even the most conservative descriptions of what is going on and they'll think you are barking mad.
Came for the discussion on gender affirmation "therapy", stayed for the bonus explanation of type 2 diabetes and stress hormones at the end! Thanks Ben and Dr Malone for a very illuminating video.
@@RpMcMurphy_ The word satya (Truth) is derived from Sat which means 'being'. Nothing is or exists in reality except Truth. That is why Sat or Truth is perhaps the most important name of God, In fact it is more correct to say that Truth is God than to say God is truth. But as we cannot do without a ruler or a general, such names of God as 'King' or 'Kings' or ' The Almighty' are and will remain generally current. On deeper thinking, however it will be realized that Sat or Satya is the only correct and fully sign fact name for God.
Cha Gal what’s does religion has to do with it ? Atheists seem obsessed to tell they are atheists .... I’m agnostic but I don’t feel this need to say out loud constantly in out of context conversations .
I'm not a scientist, but I can just look forward to 2030, and kinda wonder....will we have some massive hormone crisis where 30 to 40 year old folks, who took the treatment ten to twenty years ago....are suffering terribly and in health decline. Then, who do we blame? Good interview. Wish you could do a 5-star piece like this weekly.
Yes, important work Benjamin. This doctor should testify in front if Congress. People should have access to this information. Right now, the conversation is dominated by the LGBT community. Indeed, even raising questions results in accusations of transphobia. The most salient point the doctor made was this, IMO: the gender dysphoria of the large majority of adolescents is resolved by the natural processes of maturation. How can these processes take place if hormone blockers are given? There will an unpleasant reckoning in 20 years or so. I fear a rash of suicides. Also, it is so sad that so many kids are getting caught up in what is a mere trend. A desire to feel special and exciting, to be Trans.
The left won't listen to this Dr. This is their voting block...our political system isn't for the good of the people. It's now there for their voting block...
You are blatantly transphobic and never lived as a trans person so you have no valid words to say on the matter. The fact you’re dumb enough to assume people are going through this to be exciting is almost laughable. It’s NOT something for you to assume or talk about at all without the living said experience. It’s extremely painful for many trans people who do not have support by society and people like you.
Kai-Appeals to lived experience are not a substantiative defense of a position, as they move the topic into an inexplicable-and therefor non-understandable-realm. Please defend your position with careful argument, not appeals to revelation, so we can move the conversation forward.
Wow, what an awesome, truthful and informative talk from Dr. Malone. You can tell he cares so much for patients and for the atrocities being perpetrated on young, vulnerable adolescents. Stop the madness! Thank you Dr. Malone. I did not understand this trans topic from a medical standpoint until watching this video. Blessings for you both.
So the US medical position on gender dysphoria just happens to be the one that ensures that as many people as possible that present with the condition proceed with costly drug treatments and even costlier sex re-assignment surgeries, that also has a high chance to cause persistent health issues and in many cases will be undone with de-transition, which also incurs the need for more costly drug treatments and surgeries..... Is it crazy of me to think that this is all a giant conspiracy by the medical insurance lobby? I mean think about who profits from this at every stage; its a condition that literally cures itself in 90% of cases if you just leave it the fk alone, yet the official narrative is to encourage treatment, and the more treatment intensive it gets the worse the outcome (for the patient) becomes, but the more the patient deteriorates the more expensive it gets, and even if they stop the gender re-assignment train they will still need a lifetime of insurance cover for the health issues caused by the gender re-assignment. Its DIABOLICAL. Its a golden goose that lays the wokest of eggs, because criticism of encouraging gender re-assignment is "hate speech". The Insurance companies get to milk money from the patient for life, and they also get to shroud themselves from scrutiny by co-opting the progressive obsession with "helping the marginalized".
It's not the insurance companies making the money in such cases. Insurance companies make money on patients who have purchased policies but are healthy and don't use them as much. The idea is that the healthy help compensate for the expenses of the sick. If the insurance companies were making money off of sick people (i.e., people who make many insurance claims), sick people would just pay out of pocket for everything, and nobody would have a need for insurance at all. Also it is often difficult to get insurance companies to pay for such treatments and procedures as are discussed here. That's not to say that there isn't financial incentive for other parts of the medical process, though (e.g., the doctors and therapists that either the patient or insurance company ends up paying).
Excellent interview with a real conscientious doctor who stand by the first duty of “Doing No Harm”...feeling encouraging about the Royal College of GP in The UK as an institution starting to stand up for the truth... longing for more and more institutions and health practitioners to rebut this dangerous affirmative practice and yell out “the emperor really has no clothes “ ...saving our youths from indulging in this dangerous pretending game leading to permanent irreversible damages...
_"That doesn't sound scientific whatsoever."_ Exactly. For medical lectures to present only one side of a new form of treatment, is (I think) almost unprecedented. There's supposed to be a healthy exchange and debate based on clinical data, where various treatment paradigms are evaluated for safety and efficacy. That's part of why doctors attend CMEs (continuing medical education seminars) -- because medicine is always a "practice" that's continually evolving based on the most recent and relevant scientific evidence. But ROGD feels more like a set-in-stone religious dogma. Edit: "Some form of global awareness" = class action lawsuit. This myopic "affirmation" therapy for ROGD is eventually going to rival the old Thalidomide catastrophe, if it continues the way it's going; and I feel sick for the kids who will be permanently hurt . . . as well as their families.
I so appreciate Dr. Malone for his genuine concern for patients and his courage to do his job ethically. If only more doctors would speak up then this train wreck could be avoided.
I wish there could be french subtitles for your interviews, Benjamin. I live in France and haven't yet found the equivalent of your very intelligent approach I could share with people who aren't fluent in english. This interview in particular would be very helpful. Thank you in any case, for your work
Fascinating and honest information. The opinionization of medicine is upon us. The doctor brings out some sad truths. The ending describing the basics of endocrinology was also enlightening. Well done, Benjamin.
This talk was so valuable. So much information and so well presented. Thankyou Benjamin and Dr Malone. I am listening to this in August 2022. It is a tragedy that the voices speaking truth are still not being listened to and so many children and others are still being harmed.
When I was 9, and my dad pulled me from my free ride (he wouldn't pay, and I was really good, so the coach on my cousins team sponsored me) on my towns hockey league, because "Girls don't need to play hockey".... OH... MY... GOD. I was SO DEVASTATED. If I'd have thought that taking some meds would have turned me into a boy so I could have played hockey FOREVER I would have done it. It destroyed me for YEARS. I would have done ANYTHING. I hardly knew how to brush my f#cking hair back then, but we can let kids make these life altering decisions.... It's sad. I can't imagine not being able to be with my husband of the last 17 years and not to have been physically able to have birthed our now 12 year old son, because I sterilized myself before I was old enough to make ANY legal decisions. It makes NO SENSE. You can't smoke a cigarette or buy a beer, or join the military... But you can cut your body parts off and sterilize yourself for LIFE, before your brain is CLOSE to developed. Alllll because people are afraid of speaking up because the left will ruin the lives of the dissenters.
I wish this man was my doctor, why did I have to get a sadistic endocrinologist?! He is restoring my faith in doctors and you, Benjamin, are restoring my faith in humanity. Be well :)
I agree with him...NO ONE truly knows who they are till they reach adulthood. Some may, I grant you, but these are permanent changes not to be taken lightly! I've never met anyone who still liked an "all important" tattoo they got in their teens or early 20s when they reached 30+. This is insignificant compared to these alterations. Same concept...young adults are incapable and disadvantaged (based on brain studies) able to determine long term consequence.
Appreciated the whole talk, but the end was absolutely fascinating! Delighted to hear the doctor talk about the psychological/emotional connection to physical health. Basically emotional trauma as the root of greater health issues. He needs to do a longer interview on that topic!
It seems a generation of adults who grew up with parents who ignored them and never listened are way overcorrecting things by coddling their own children and giving into their every last whim.
Brilliant chat! Love the humility of this Doctor, William Malone. Also, towards to the end the endocrinology master class, was fascinating! Thank you Benjamin for inviting him & for the great questions too!
I'm a gay man so may not have a standing here but my opinion is that children should not be placed on any blockers or hormones. They ARE children. Also I think the medical community, most anyways, jump on this to quickly like they got a new toy to play with.
Acie Farris They jump on it quickly because they don’t want to be accused of conversion therapy, and they can also make money from people’s insecurities potentially for their rest of their lives if they get them medically dependent
We live in a bizarre era and even though surrounded by the achievements of science, ideologues have seemingly taken over and dictate the gender narrative. Where is this all going? I don't really know, but it doesn't seem to a good place.....
@@Isobel31Swan (I'm re-reading it now), it's a warning of how our govnerments can be subverted, an examination of pre and post WWI socialist developments in power, essentially a warning (by a famous economist _hayek_ ) of allowing governments to centrally plan anything :) fascinating considering it was written in 1940-43, author copped a bunch of criticism however was proven correct, history has shown him to have been slightly pulling punches.
These messed up kids will be our future leaders...Forcing more unnatural acts natural on us. If you don't agree your socially scorned and sent to the whipping post and disgraced....
It seems that the puberty blockers are now seen more as a way of getting to the legal age for starting cross sex hormones rather than buying time for a change of mind.
Absolutely the best and most informative interview I have ever experienced on our endocrine system Dr Malone succinctly maps out the scientific functions of the organs and simply states their health impact & importance. His explanation on the effects of sugar has me determined to change my unhealthy addiction to “sweets”. Seriously, I believe this single interview may potentially save lives. If only more Endocrinologist were instructed in his method of presentation, I believe many people would make better health decisions. The trans community might have one thing right; it’s not their choice to be trans…it just may be a lethal equation of a mismanaged endocrine system along with childhood trauma and social propaganda. The push to normalize a transgender lifestyle is a direct & purposeful attempt to normalize a lifelong, life threatening dis functioning, diseased human body. It’s criminal, evil and those pushing disease upon our children and fellow humans need to be held accountable.
I remember how badly the pill affected me ( I ended up with pulmonary embolisms) and that was just from too much estrogen so I cannot even imagine how bad this will be effecting these kids
This is a great show. You should make one with endocrinologists specifically about androgens and the importance of testosterone to biologically males' health. Most of these young boys getting chemically castrated, or due to surgery, cant even spell ''endocrinologist'' yet alone to have had an appointment with one to inform them what the specific hormones do to the male body, and that with out them you CANT be healthy.
I found the last part so interesting. No idea that stress so depleted the immune system , causes of type 2 diabetes and malignancy. Got me thinking about my childhood of excessive obedience and compliance resulting in tolerance of abusive marriage, must be that I am just too nice🥊
I can't emphasize enough how vital and important this discussion is. As a mother of a Trans id child. And catching the unexpected diabetes discussion near the end... I'm type 2 diabetic... the cortisol and stress stuff rings very true. Hadn't thought it was cos I am such an awesomely nice person 🤔😏. But a worrier with depression & anxiety.. for sure.
I think YT shadow-hides some of Benjamin's videos. . . Not quite shadow-bans, but downranks them in people's feeds. I've already been subscribed since his first Evergreen videos, and I've clicked the bell for notifications; but I don't always get notified when he posts new videos. Sometimes I do, but more often I don't. It's weird.
@@zxyatiywariii8 good point, Benjamin took on the church of intersectionality, not on just took-on but took-chunks from and continues to do so, as we all know now the big tech. firms are rife with with these types who are actively demoting and hiding wrong-think like this.
@@naughteedesign Benjamin has been pretty evenhanded but no trans-trenders are willing to talk to him, so he might come off as anti-trans when he is just being cautious about maiming mentally ill kids.
Excellent. And we women, who are generally the ones to raise children, and I work with them, need to educate ourselves in order to give good advice when we are asked. I grew up in the UK and have lived here for years. I always use both when researching and I have been reading books from both on fertility, STDs, and girls getting puberty blockers and having their breasts cut off. And why they do this. Porn is mentioned.
Dr. Malone is a saint for doing this interview. I'm a neuro and a healthcare attorney in NY & it would be scary for most physicians to come out here and speak this level of truth. Children need to be protected. I love what he said at the first part of the interview: we're not just a collection of neutral tissue that reacts to either hormone bath. At chromosomal, cellular level and neurological levels, your sex is male or female. I know he didn't even go into the neurological effects of administering puberty blockers and particularly administering testosterone to females, but trust me - that could be an entire separate interview (which I hope you'll do). Nobody who understands the health implications would subject themselves or their children to "transgender medicalization."
As a healthcare attorney, I hope you will speak out about the harms being done with transgender "medicine". We need professionals in the know to speak out. Otherwise, how can families possibly help their children and youth who experience gender dysphoria?
I am a person that legally changed their sex and do not support transgender at all.
I hate transgender being confused with transsexual as they are not the same thing.
I think a lot of conservatives are not connecting the dots to falling testosterone and sperm counts and endocrine disruptors and fetal sexual brain development.
Back in the 70's Dr.Norman Fisk began transition a wide variety of people that were not transsexuals by Harry Benjamin's classic transsexual. There are transvestites that want to live fulltime as women both heterosexual and gay. They identify 100% as their birth sex!
Someone like me will tell you yes I understand why my birth certificate was listed as this and why. But I will not tell you I am 100% biological male. How cab you be born this way and be 100% male? My thinking is my brain sex was altered before I was born. Your brain is biological and so is your nervous system.There goes the 100% biological.male but I am also not 100% biologically female either. Add in hormones and surgery and I don't believe either scientifically or biblicly to say I am male.
With these kids and adults I do not trust the lgbtq activist or feminist to get it right on who to transition. The court is allowing them to bully millions of Americans around the world tobsupport their gender is purely a social construct crap! Just because you bully and oppress people into silence really doesn't prove gender is a social construct! With the,parents and kids they are playing psychological warfare games to hide the real truth from them!
The kids from the last twenty years are not only guinea pigs on hormone blockers but also in being brainwashed to identify as an argueably illegally adopted and promoted umbrella term transgender and property of the lgbtq/ gay community for life. I am telling you the switch to the word transgender and creation of the lgbtq has caused way worse mental illlness and suicides. The fighting within in it is sick!
@@lisamcdonald7828 how do I get in contact with you?
Stop fearing cancelation and start fearing God. This is ridiculous, there are no excuses. Speak tf up if you have a voice.
Right now, the topic is too hot, but in the future I think there will be a lot of lawsuits. Or, I hope there will be.
I'm a woman who was given synthetic testosterone/steroids called Danazol. It was many years ago and I was given no warning as to what the consequences would be. All I know is it made me so insane that I refused the treatment again, no matter how much the doctors pushed it.
Now I'm in my 60s and I'm dealing with all kinds of effects. My family members live til they are in their 90s and beyond and I dread what more is coming.
Administering all these hormones, without long term studies, is criminal.
Dr. Malone understands the concept of first, do no harm. Thanks for giving him a place to speak freely.
Malone is a child abuser and his approach actively harms trans Young people
Margot Darby you are the one who is ignorant here.
@@MargotDarby Why is it that attackers like yourself are so vague with their attacks? Give one time point or one example.
@@MargotDarby what's an example of them using the terminology incorrectly? Also, if you go to the linked document there are a bunch of peer reviewed articles if you want evidence for these claims.
@@MargotDarby what did he say, from a clinical and biological perspective, that was incorrect? What facts was he wrong about?
Dr. William Malone is a voice crying in the wilderness. He is a very brave man. We need more alpha men and leaders like him. Benjamin, thanks for this interview.
I’m recovering from a pretty serious ‘burn out’. I can’t tell you how much sense he made to me. It’s actually made me quite emotional.
"If you are not holding your ground, your fight or flight system gets you ready to be taken advantage of at any point in time- your resources, your food, your mate- and that creates a constant state of anxiety.." Such a wealth of matter for thought in this interview.
Yes
I really gained a lot of information from this interview.
I have been following you since Evergreen. My wife and I have been patronizing your content, intensively, since you bravely took on the topic of transgenderism. The haters will tell you it is not your place, among other subversive fallacies. Thanks for hanging tough and staying inquisitive. We have a 20 month old, and hope that humanity can work through these harmful trends, for all of our sakes.
Near the start Dr Malone said that puberty blockers inhibit the body's natural recovery from gender disphoria. I'd never thought of it that way before but it makes sense.
Indeed. Who *isn't* confused about who they are during puberty? That's pretty much the point of puberty, and stopping the process to end confusion is double-plus crazy.
Like suicide, a permanent solution to temporary problems.
What about trans people who transition post puberty, but had dysphoria since pre puberty? (genuinely curious)
@Christopher Heskett For a lot of people, the end of puberty is the end of many of their self-image problems and neuroses. Many of the psychological problems that arise during puberty subside, at least somewhat, in adulthood. If you want an example, you can go to my channel and watch the video I made called "I'm glad I didn't transition"
Obey the Cult of Cybele!
A bunch of boys that loose compassion, love and, tenderness when they get to puberty and a bunch of girls that are told if the want to succeed or have power in life that they were born the wrong sex.. results seem pretty predictable to me.
Not being a doctor let alone an endocrinologist , just having some common sense, this kind of treatment looked extremely dangerous to me from the very start. But it is great to hear the details from someone who understands the body's function and the endocrine system.
they never told me my eyes would get blurry and hurt, or that id be shaking constantly, or the constant panic attacks im still suffering. and i was on it for 18 days. 18 DAYS!
Sue them.
This doctor actually puts his patient's well being beyond anything else. Many doctors should go back to their Hippocratic Oath, and reflect on it for a while..
*Important meta-point* @ 46:05... affirmation therapy "runs contrary to how we practice medicine in every other area. If the brain and body are in conflict, we work on the brain, we don't work on the body."
iamgoddard
If only Sam Harris could pick this up
Agreed. Very important point.
@Sacha Barbie Does it work? What about the multiple studies showing suicide rates remain unchanged from trans individuals with surgery/hormones compared to ones without, or the phenomenon of detransition, the factors of infertility, cardiovascular problems and other complications with surgery.
im not going to say flat out it does not work, except in the most sense that changing your body at a cellular level is impossible foor us now. But i can't believe there is clear evidence of it's working given these other facts.
@Sacha Barbie citation?
@@elmosworld360 Multiple studies. Look them up.
My pre-existing bias on this topic is I think the pharmaceutical and plastic surgery industries are immoral and scammy. This interview reaffirms my view.
Buttercup do you realize that the vast majority of what dermatologists work on is related to skin cancer, which is one of the deadliest forms of cancer? And not just pimples and microdermabrasion? As someone who has sat in the dermatological surgeons office for 7 hours having Moh’s surgery to remove cancer from my nose, I found that out the hard way. And I was very glad for the skill of the plastic surgeon that was able to fix the giant scar that the quarter sized cancer that had grown roots into my nose had left once they had dug it out had healed
Yes there are unethical doctors in Beverly Hills giving people like the Kardashian’s unnatural looking bodies, and turning people like the Bogdanoff twins or the Human Ken doll into human freaks. But there are legitimate needs for these doctors as well. Especially dermatologists
I share a similar sentiment. Unfortunately those with the most to lose (ie: health-wise) are us women.
Okay than don't cry about your close relative dying because of a pneumonia, because "bad" pharmaceutical companies won't provide you with needed antibiotics.
Don't be so narrow minded. Pharma is important for people ,plastic surgery is important for victims of war, chemical or fire burns etc.
@@reggieshmeggie4219 in my country the anti biotics we have access to are called generic medicine that Americans do not have access to. I am assuming you are american. Out of patent medicine is very cheap for us and are not supplied by the corrupt american big pharma.
I think this is why if you try and search the internet for studies about the success rate of hormone therapy you find statistics, with no explanation of where they came from, sample size, or how long the study was conducted. However If you check out suicide and attempted suicide rates from the center of suicide prevention it becomes clear that hormone therapy, while having initial success in lowering these rates, lose their helpful utility after 5 to 10 years.
I personally have a friend who came out as trans, refused to see a psychiatrist, and was able to shop around for doctors until she found one who immediately prescribed hormones. This was a general practitioner mind you. It's madness.
The doctor is fascinating. Could listen to him for hours. Thanks for the interview.
Thought the same : )
although it was a little like the doc coming in to walk you through how your civilisation has a horrid disorder which is inoperable.
Ikr?
Yes - isn't he a breath of fresh air? The polarity between his elocution and the Frankenspeak of delusion currently holding court, is quite frightening, really.
Unfortunately he just sounds like he knows his stuff about this. He doesn’t actually. He is an endocrinologist not a psychologist, he can judge the physical effects of the treatment but he can’t judge whether it’s actually worthwhile. A lot of what he says that’s unrelated to endocrinology is gotten from questionable sources or is misinterpreted. It’s easy to see if you look into his research guide after having looked into more relating to this issue.
Ben maturing in his interviewing And what a guest. Excellent.
Basically, a stroke or a blood clot is not a "social construct."
So obvious, yet it needed to be said.
Yes it is, you mysogynistic transphobe. So is death, btw.
@@deliezer not an equivalency and the ad hominem attack makes no sense.
@@katerwaller Jokes & sarcasm are definitely social constructs . Groan.
@Max Raider - Nothing to do with feminists. Radical Feminists (radical meaning The root) are against gender ideology but we have been banned and shut down from speaking.
Thank you Benjamin for continuing this series and having this doctor in particular on your show. You are truly making a difference with what you’re doing, and I’m sure countless lives are or will be saved as a result.
I feel like future generations will look back on this time and ask, “wtf were they thinking?”
future de-generations
Just like lobotomy
one can only hope, but i'm not optimistic
Yup. Just like we look back at lobotomies, amphetamines as diet pills or Jimmy Saville.
I'm amazed at he ease with which we are accepting of a opinion based social movement but then look back to commonly held beliefs from the past. Like when a train travelling 15 m per hours was considered to be dangerous enough to turn the lungs inside out. ( Until it was shown to be otherwise.) If we have the medical/ scientific/ fact based data as we do in this instant, why is this gaining such reactions? A trans woman is a woman (gender) but a trans woman is not female! (sex).
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Whenever I'm watching something else and see you've uploaded, I instantly transition.
transition?
The perfect jump cut 👌🏻
Hahaha, wish I'd have said that!
I see what you did there
@@msabigailflurm1163 lol
This was a another excellent interview. What strikes me the most is the almost surreal point we have reached where objective truth is simply ignored by a large sector of a profession (medicine). Reality is even ignored: as Dr Malone stated, there is a cognitive dissonance when it comes to this *particular topic: in any other case, a doctor would reform the mind to suit reality, but in *this case, all of reality is supposed to be changed to suit the mind. He didn't mention it, but of course that also means that everyone else is supposed to go along with what they KNOW to be objectively untrue. It is surreal.
Another great interview! I so wish the so-called trans "community" encouraged a more critical and cautious perspective on medicalization. After over 5 years on testosterone, I am still learning about the risks and long-term effects. These are things that, had I been told any of this or found any of this research easily prior to my medicalization, I would have desisted. Thank you so much for airing more facts about this horrific system. Patients cannot provide informed consent when the non-affirming information is blocked.
Miranda Yardley (a recent guest) seems to employ a more critical and cautious perspective however he has been pilloried for it by thr Trans-lobby.
Why is it that de-transitioners are silenced?
If you weren't told about the risks, you were denied the opportunity to give informed consent and have grounds for a medical negligence claim.
I wish your health all the best. I hope you were one of the lucky ones in regards to side effects. I wish you all the best in regards to your journey of finding your identity :)
@@seekerout I have considered it but, primarily due to A) That practitioner no longer practicing in transition medicalization, & B) I currently live out-of-State of that practitioner, I have decided not to follow through with any legal proceedings. If, however, that doctor were still prescribing hormones in the same manner, I would absolutely bring that to light.
@@orioleaszme3415 Thank you for your kind words. I have had a lot of difficulty healing from the amount of testosterone I was on and for how long I was on it. But, my body is recovering well and I am on the up. I have come to identify as a detransitioned woman and, while I experience some dysphoria still, I am very happy with who I was born to be.
Everybody tweet this doctors name to joe rogan. He needs to have this guy on!! And soon!!
I would love to see this guy on Joe Rogan.
@@shadow.banned he has such a wealth of urgently needed wise and compassionate care.
"happy insulin" LOL. Seriously this was a most excellent talk. Not only about the gender dysphoria and trans-genderism but the ending regarding stress and health. He sounds like a really compassionate MD. Great interview and guest.
Jordan Peterson spoke about this topic in an interview. He said something like 20 years for now, when lawsuits start getting filed against doctors and parents who did this to children, and he said this will absolutely happen, we will look back on this episode and wonder exactly what the hell we were thinking. To me this looks like horrible parenting bordering on child abuse.
Two years after this interview and your comment, it's more than obvious that if this practice and its social consequences are left unchecked, we'll be in a sorry state in 20 years.
Is child abuse. Just because they plead ignorance, doesn't mean the abuse didn't happen
Let's be honest here, in 20 years the people involved with these experiments will be remembered as monsters. The victims will eventually begin coming through in waves.
I hope we don't have to wait 20 years! I hope the lawsuits start pouring in sooner so that people with dysphoria may get help.
It's such obvious child abuse.
Towards the end it felt as I didn't want it to end "so soon".
Very much appreciated effort from the 2 of you thank you so much.
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just watched this (2023), but I appreciate Dr Malone for speaking the truth... however, the last part of the interview blew my mind. Validated my thoughts and feelings about stress and setting boundaries. So, I watched this to educate myself further on trans issues, and in the end, found information to help me! Thank you both
Thank you for bringing this brave endocrinologist to speak and explain the consequences. Our youth is in grave danger.
It's sad to think of all the families that will be ruined by this teen trans hysteria.
Seriously. I simply can't wrap my head around parents advocating this treatment fro their children. They won't let them stay up past 11pm, but trust them when they say they're the opposing gender and need this treatment. What the absolute fuck is wrong with these parents?
I find the treatment of prepubescent children with hormone therapy to be beyond reprehensible. I've tried, but I simply can't comprehend why anyone would do this to their children. Fucking disgusting.
@@nocturne000 I don't see why parents would allow or have their child put on the puberty blockers or hormones for something such as this.
I do know a couple of mothers who did choose to have their daughters put on birth control that stopped their daughters periods. Their daughters were both VERY young.. one I know for a fact was only 6 yrs old. And she had honest to God began having her period at the age of 6. It was a joint decision they had made with specialist to put them on birthcontrol. It actually helped the little girls. Imagine being in 1st grade and having your period. Thats entirely too much for a baby that young. Once they reached the age puberty, they were taken off birthcontrol and they went on about their lives as they would have.
Both moms were concerned and worried that there may future issues as far as fertility once they reached adulthood. I hope that there weren't. Those girls are now adults. Hopefully they didn't have any issues. That was medical treatment to supress premature puberty. Not stop it all together.
Not to mention husbands who do this. This is mass delusion, caused by the many pronged attack on the American family.
Sad thing is it's not just a trend with teens. It's now spreading to parents claiming their babies and toddlers are trans and or raising them non binary. Look at the Foster parents who just won a case against child abuse because they are claiming 3 or more of their foster children are transgender!! A judge ruled in their favor😱 against children/youth services. One child maybe, two possibly, but three! All three children???????
kbkoterski there is an attack on the entire world, not just Americans. The NWO will show that.
Thank you so much for all of the work you have done with these interviews. I have been fascinated by them and listen to every single one of them as we are going through this in my family and it is the most devastating thing I have ever had to deal with. So many people tell us that we are emotionally abusive because we do not accept her as our son. This came about when she was 16 1/2 and the story sounds so familiar. Every support group I join I hear the same story being told over and over. It is crazy what is happening. I would love to share the entire story but it is very personal to my family. But I just wanted to thank you Benjamin for the work that you have been doing. I hope at some point I can get my daughter to listen to this because she tells me she knows someone who has been on testosterone for 10 years and they are perfectly fine and healthy.
I think you'll have to try to keep an open mind as much as you can. These things are so difficult for parents and it's hard to know how things will eventually turn out. Some children come to accept their biological sex but parents struggle with their sexuality, for example.
Kudos to you Benjamin. You’ve become the “go-to” for professionals and lay people alike on this bizarre and complex trend.
Jazz Jennings was on puberty blockers and it made her male genitalia so underdeveloped that her doctors were unable to perform the bottom surgery that she wanted in the way that she was hoping. She ended up having complications so terrible that her doctors said it was the most difficult case they had experienced. Puberty blockers are terrible. They're even terrible for trans people. I don't understand how they're legal
Never intende for Trans id children. Intended for early onset puberty & even those people have experienced terrible effects. Jazz may well have grown to be a gay man. But the blockers gave him a micro penis and likely effected maturity. And the life on social media horrific.
Jazz will never have an orgasm. 😦
Jake Dean oh really? I know that viagra was (accidentally) developed for men with prostate cancer because the treatment basically chemically castrated them. But I didn’t realize that the same hormones that were used as puberty blockers were used to treat prostate cancer
Not to mention that Jazz has never had an orgasm. The poor thing is hoping that love will awaken his libido.
@Jake Dean GRnH blockers such as Lupron were originally developed as chemotherapy for various cancers but with use in endometriosis in females and prostate cancer in males. Either way they should not be used on children.
It's clear, to me at least, that 'affirmation therapy' is simply indulging emotional immaturity - and the confusion and anxiety it inspires, with instant gratification. It takes strength of character, patience, and yes - love, to truly treat gender dysphoria effectively. Affirming adolescent insecurity is the opposite IMHO.
Exactly. When infantilization is encouraged and celebrated, especially because its accompanying power point political oppression victimization is held high as the maximum experiential correctness - seriously tough people will sit up and take notice, and begin planning no end of exploitation of that fact.
I dated a woman who had body dis-morphia, a mental illness with a comparable and even higher rate of suicide. She of course wasn't told to get plastic surgery. How is "gender dysphoria" any different from some form of dissociative disorder?
@@nocturne000 I'm not an authority on the subject, so, other than it's manifestation, I couldn't say.
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I read my comment back and realized my question doesn't sound as rhetorical as I meant it to be. I was just trying to throw a thought in with your comment that I thought might relate in the sense of the correct treatment of gender dysphoria.
I find it odd that we put it in a different category than other similar disorders and use affirmation as a treatment. This is especially reprehensible in young people as like you said, it's their insecurity that's being taken advantage of.
Sorry for being confusing, but thank you for the reply.
@@nocturne000 No need to be sorry; you make a perfectly valid point:).
I will never forget my first visit ever to an endocrinologist, back in Greenville, NC. He had no idea of what to prescribe me because he had never had any patients like me before so he asked: “What do you think?” I was caught by surprise. Then he said: “Maybe we can try to replicate what you were taking in Brazil?” (Where I used to self-medicate as a teenager!) Dang. I googled “Perlutan” and we went from there. Literally just like that.
I'm a 24 y/o cis gendered male having gender"problems" & have been really considering hormones and transitioning and this has been very eye opening & am sad to see how u have less than 60000 subs and do see the media's pro transgenderism bias if those r the correct words to express my msg, thanks for the knowledge
Trans person here who's wanting to desist. Yes, all of what he's saying is true. I've tried to have conversations with fellow trans peeps about 'is this right? Are we doing the right thing here?' and I've gotten yelled out, canceled etc. I've had one statement of, 'Just because you got prescribed titty skittles too quick doesn't mean you're right!' and then they'll 'shut down' and 'I can't even' and poof, there went your support group. Now that I'm waking up, it's toxic AF. Stay away.
If you are asking those questions the best thing to do is not proceed.
@@annabell3385 A mentally ill person cannot be held accountable for their choices.
'Titty skittles' how disgusting and disrespectful! How could they say that if they want to 'become' a woman? We don't call them our titties 😖
@@annabell3385 so are you suggesting only people who do NOT want questions answered prior to proceeding should proceed uninformed?
In 10 years a whole lot of damaged people will want to class action sue someone
Hope so
Ĺinda Rothera they wouldn’t have any ground to stand on. They’d be the ones who were stupid enough to make a choice that would ruin their lives. It’s not the medical professionals’ faults that they were doing their jobs.
Lgbt aren’t usually known for suing people ....... (sarcasm full throttle 😉)
I would advice to be more scared of this outcome if i were a doctor than of trans bullying.
@@Vearru Not true. We go to the professionals for advice, guidance and services because we are not experts. This morning on the BBC, the CEO of the Tavistock clinic said that puberty blockers are totally reversible. A lie, but a lie that is being repeated by the so-called experts.
I could listen to Dr. Malone talk for the entire day. What a great interview !!
This is a horror story, what is "in vogue" is leading to life changing non reversable health issues OMG
Yes, there is a case in the UK with a woman who had a double mastectomy at age 14, which she now regrets. :(
The medical and scientific professions need to lead on this issue. They are the only body capable of understanding and accessing the risks and benefits of different treatments on the patients health. These experts need the freedom to research and debate without being abused and silenced by lobbyists.
"Lobbyists"
Let's not act as if this (trans movement) is not a cultural agenda.
The medical and scientific community has been completed co-opted by pharma
Thank you so much for your interviews on this topic, Benjamin!
It has been my pleasure, honor, and education.
The ROGD affecting young women and girls reminds me of the pro-anorexia thing that was going on when I was a teenager. Girls would go to web forums to learn to be anorexic, and they did it for the same reasons as the girls now want to be trans: discomfort with the physical changes of puberty and unwanted sexual attention and harassment they get.
me too 100%
It's interesting that the Dutch model was mentioned. I grew up in the Netherlands in the 80s and early 90s and I remember the culture already dealing with this topic in a a very natural way. I remember a tv show where a biological boy told that he actually felt like a girl and that his big dream was to as an adult become a woman. Mind you, as an adult. Later I had a personal friend who suffered from great mental health issues. At some point he started to identify as female and applied for corrective surgery. He had to go through an extensive process of counseling and psychological evaluation before he could have access to such surgery. In the end he was diagnosed with manic depressive personality disorder for which he now receives treatment. He now feels at ease in his masculine identity. I feel that the whole irony of this situation is that the most ideological pressure to adjust comes from some of the most uptight countries regarding transgenderism and gender norms (basically the us) As a child I used to dress up in female clothes and put makeup on my face. Thank god my parents and culture had the sanity to realize this was just about having an interest for the theatrical rather than some form of dysphoria (I'm not gay by the way, in case anyone is wondering)
This was really good. what's sad is, so few Have The patience to sit through such a conversation.
Ben, thank you for having Dr. Mallone on. He and the other brave doctor's speaking up on this are so important. These poor kids are being experimented on. The truth needs to come out.
Malone**
This was one of the most interesting, educational and medically backed conversations on this topic I've ever watched. Thank you both!
So glad I stayed to watch after the wrap up on gender issues. The section on stress induced illness was mind blowing.
Yes it was. I too found it fascinating and extremely helpful.
Me too, I COULD HAVE DONE WITH THIS ADVICE 50 years ago. Living with the effects of being a doormat for too much of my 86 years.😰
I would really appreciate a conversation 2 years on between you both. Fascinating insights, your perspectives on ‘then and now’ with regards to what was discussed would be greatly appreciated! Thank you for your diligent work and orientation to truth. 😀
I resonated a lot with the last part. I've always been known as the person that everybody can go to if they need to talk, always understanding, supportive, always smiling etc. but have felt a growing exhaustion coming from that role, especially because I never said 'stop'. And while I'm always smiling and everyone feels within seconds that they can tell me anything, inside I'm constantly anxious, worrying I've done something wrong, I can hardly stop my thoughts etc. So it made a lot of sense to me. Thank you!
A hero! Please continue to fight the good fight, Doc. Thanks, gentlemen.
Usually doctor types are impossible to listen to. This fellow is chrystal clear and crazy easy to follow! Thanks Benjamin
Good for this man. Its hard to support the science over the dogma when you are surrounded by zealots.
although, at the same time I wonder if he and his colleagues had acted earlier much of this disaster could have been averted.
I'm genuinely scared by the fact that a scientific doctor is becoming more rare. . . As if we're living in the Middle Ages instead of the 21st century. 🤦🏾♀️
Medicine *_should_* be one of the fields that's inherently safe from anti-scientific dogma; but it's under threat these days like everything else.
@@zxyatiywariii8 if you really want to terrify yourself get a copy of "bad bharma" by ben goldacre. although this stuff is beyond that, this is actual religious bigots with chips on their shoulders destroying lives in the name of science.
@Fionabuster D. it really does seem western civilsation is under attack on many fronts, like death by a thousand cuts... we're being demoralised and gaslit. try to walk your average guy on the street through, even the most conservative descriptions of what is going on and they'll think you are barking mad.
massively important work Benjamin, thank you.
My sentiments exactly.
he;s a dangerous quack whose basic sciences knowledge is poor and he is utterly ignorance of 100 + years of well founded evidence
@@nicolajaynehodson9223 thanks for the feedback, can you back up your claim of him being a "quack", i'm genuinely interested. cheers.
@@naughteedesign how about no actual evidence base supporting his lies and transphobia ...
@@nicolajaynehodson9223 ah right, thanks.
Great video! Telling this story through the voice of a medically knowledgeable source changes the game. Great journalism!
I really enjoyed this conversation. I hope you have him on again.
And again. And he does a speaking tour of the gender clinics in Australia
If only to talk about cortisol and stress.
Came for the discussion on gender affirmation "therapy", stayed for the bonus explanation of type 2 diabetes and stress hormones at the end! Thanks Ben and Dr Malone for a very illuminating video.
I'm an atheist, but you are doing god's work, Benjamin.
Blessed are the atheists. They will love God's work unconditionally.
How?
@@RpMcMurphy_ The word satya (Truth) is derived from Sat which means 'being'. Nothing is or exists in reality except Truth. That is why Sat or Truth is perhaps the most important name of God, In fact it is more correct to say that Truth is God than to say God is truth. But as we cannot do without a ruler or a general, such names of God as 'King' or 'Kings' or ' The Almighty' are and will remain generally current. On deeper thinking, however it will be realized that Sat or Satya is the only correct and fully sign fact name for God.
Cha Gal what’s does religion has to do with it ? Atheists seem obsessed to tell they are atheists .... I’m agnostic but I don’t feel this need to say out loud constantly in out of context conversations .
I'm not a scientist, but I can just look forward to 2030, and kinda wonder....will we have some massive hormone crisis where 30 to 40 year old folks, who took the treatment ten to twenty years ago....are suffering terribly and in health decline. Then, who do we blame? Good interview. Wish you could do a 5-star piece like this weekly.
As one mother said “they’re confusing our children”.
Then offering their cure . . .
Yes right on the money!
Good luck on being a bigoted asshole and not understanding people who are trans at all.
One of the best interviews I've seen of yours. Thank you,
Hugely valuable information.
Yes, important work Benjamin. This doctor should testify in front if Congress. People should have access to this information. Right now, the conversation is dominated by the LGBT community. Indeed, even raising questions results in accusations of transphobia. The most salient point the doctor made was this, IMO: the gender dysphoria of the large majority of adolescents is resolved by the natural processes of maturation. How can these processes take place if hormone blockers are given? There will an unpleasant reckoning in 20 years or so. I fear a rash of suicides. Also, it is so sad that so many kids are getting caught up in what is a mere trend. A desire to feel special and exciting, to be Trans.
And WHO. And Olympic committee. And gender clinics everywhere.
The left won't listen to this Dr. This is their voting block...our political system isn't for the good of the people. It's now there for their voting block...
That’s because it blatantly IS transphobia.
You are blatantly transphobic and never lived as a trans person so you have no valid words to say on the matter. The fact you’re dumb enough to assume people are going through this to be exciting is almost laughable. It’s NOT something for you to assume or talk about at all without the living said experience. It’s extremely painful for many trans people who do not have support by society and people like you.
Kai-Appeals to lived experience are not a substantiative defense of a position, as they move the topic into an inexplicable-and therefor non-understandable-realm. Please defend your position with careful argument, not appeals to revelation, so we can move the conversation forward.
Wow, what an awesome, truthful and informative talk from Dr. Malone. You can tell he cares so much for patients and for the atrocities being perpetrated on young, vulnerable adolescents. Stop the madness! Thank you Dr. Malone. I did not understand this trans topic from a medical standpoint until watching this video. Blessings for you both.
You have done a massive social service Benjamin. This video is starting to go viral. Thanks to you and the very composed William Malone.
So the US medical position on gender dysphoria just happens to be the one that ensures that as many people as possible that present with the condition proceed with costly drug treatments and even costlier sex re-assignment surgeries, that also has a high chance to cause persistent health issues and in many cases will be undone with de-transition, which also incurs the need for more costly drug treatments and surgeries.....
Is it crazy of me to think that this is all a giant conspiracy by the medical insurance lobby? I mean think about who profits from this at every stage; its a condition that literally cures itself in 90% of cases if you just leave it the fk alone, yet the official narrative is to encourage treatment, and the more treatment intensive it gets the worse the outcome (for the patient) becomes, but the more the patient deteriorates the more expensive it gets, and even if they stop the gender re-assignment train they will still need a lifetime of insurance cover for the health issues caused by the gender re-assignment. Its DIABOLICAL. Its a golden goose that lays the wokest of eggs, because criticism of encouraging gender re-assignment is "hate speech". The Insurance companies get to milk money from the patient for life, and they also get to shroud themselves from scrutiny by co-opting the progressive obsession with "helping the marginalized".
We'll have to start looking for health insurance policies that do or do not cover these treatments and surgeries.
It's not the insurance companies making the money in such cases. Insurance companies make money on patients who have purchased policies but are healthy and don't use them as much. The idea is that the healthy help compensate for the expenses of the sick. If the insurance companies were making money off of sick people (i.e., people who make many insurance claims), sick people would just pay out of pocket for everything, and nobody would have a need for insurance at all. Also it is often difficult to get insurance companies to pay for such treatments and procedures as are discussed here. That's not to say that there isn't financial incentive for other parts of the medical process, though (e.g., the doctors and therapists that either the patient or insurance company ends up paying).
@@KirisutonoNeko Good points, well made.
nah that has also occurred to me
How do the insurance companies get money? Don't they have to pay for the treatments?
Explosive interview that emphasizes the need to follow the data and not polticized identity or ideology. Best in the series yet.
Excellent interview with a real conscientious doctor who stand by the first duty of “Doing No Harm”...feeling encouraging about the Royal College of GP in The UK as an institution starting to stand up for the truth... longing for more and more institutions and health practitioners to rebut this dangerous affirmative practice and yell out “the emperor really has no clothes “ ...saving our youths from indulging in this dangerous pretending game leading to permanent irreversible damages...
_"That doesn't sound scientific whatsoever."_
Exactly. For medical lectures to present only one side of a new form of treatment, is (I think) almost unprecedented. There's supposed to be a healthy exchange and debate based on clinical data, where various treatment paradigms are evaluated for safety and efficacy.
That's part of why doctors attend CMEs (continuing medical education seminars) -- because medicine is always a "practice" that's continually evolving based on the most recent and relevant scientific evidence.
But ROGD feels more like a set-in-stone religious dogma.
Edit: "Some form of global awareness" = class action lawsuit.
This myopic "affirmation" therapy for ROGD is eventually going to rival the old Thalidomide catastrophe, if it continues the way it's going; and I feel sick for the kids who will be permanently hurt . . . as well as their families.
I so appreciate Dr. Malone for his genuine concern for patients and his courage to do his job ethically. If only more doctors would speak up then this train wreck could be avoided.
FANTASTIC interview!! One of my favorites on this channel.
I don't usually watch long videos. Watched this to the end. Great work both of you.
This is so important. Thank you for doing this interview.
I wish there could be french subtitles for your interviews, Benjamin. I live in France and haven't yet found the equivalent of your very intelligent approach I could share with people who aren't fluent in english. This interview in particular would be very helpful. Thank you in any case, for your work
Fascinating and honest information. The opinionization of medicine is upon us. The doctor brings out some sad truths. The ending describing the basics of endocrinology was also enlightening. Well done, Benjamin.
This talk was so valuable. So much information and so well presented. Thankyou Benjamin and Dr Malone. I am listening to this in August 2022. It is a tragedy that the voices speaking truth are still not being listened to and so many children and others are still being harmed.
When I was 9, and my dad pulled me from my free ride (he wouldn't pay, and I was really good, so the coach on my cousins team sponsored me) on my towns hockey league, because "Girls don't need to play hockey".... OH... MY... GOD. I was SO DEVASTATED. If I'd have thought that taking some meds would have turned me into a boy so I could have played hockey FOREVER I would have done it. It destroyed me for YEARS. I would have done ANYTHING. I hardly knew how to brush my f#cking hair back then, but we can let kids make these life altering decisions.... It's sad. I can't imagine not being able to be with my husband of the last 17 years and not to have been physically able to have birthed our now 12 year old son, because I sterilized myself before I was old enough to make ANY legal decisions. It makes NO SENSE. You can't smoke a cigarette or buy a beer, or join the military... But you can cut your body parts off and sterilize yourself for LIFE, before your brain is CLOSE to developed. Alllll because people are afraid of speaking up because the left will ruin the lives of the dissenters.
I agree with his statement about more doctors not speaking out because they don’t know much about it ❤
This is one of the best interviews on this subject. Thank you for introducing us to Dr. Malone. Am now following him on twitter.
I wish this man was my doctor, why did I have to get a sadistic endocrinologist?! He is restoring my faith in doctors and you, Benjamin, are restoring my faith in humanity. Be well :)
Always love your interviews with scientists and doctors, Benjamin. Dr. Malone was fascinating!
One of the best interviews you’ve done. He’s extremely intelligent and he brings a different perspective to this. He just makes sense.
I agree with him...NO ONE truly knows who they are till they reach adulthood. Some may, I grant you, but these are permanent changes not to be taken lightly! I've never met anyone who still liked an "all important" tattoo they got in their teens or early 20s when they reached 30+. This is insignificant compared to these alterations. Same concept...young adults are incapable and disadvantaged (based on brain studies) able to determine long term consequence.
Appreciated the whole talk, but the end was absolutely fascinating! Delighted to hear the doctor talk about the psychological/emotional connection to physical health. Basically emotional trauma as the root of greater health issues. He needs to do a longer interview on that topic!
It seems a generation of adults who grew up with parents who ignored them and never listened are way overcorrecting things by coddling their own children and giving into their every last whim.
Brilliant chat! Love the humility of this Doctor, William Malone. Also, towards to the end the endocrinology master class, was fascinating! Thank you Benjamin for inviting him & for the great questions too!
I'm a gay man so may not have a standing here but my opinion is that children should not be placed on any blockers or hormones. They ARE children.
Also I think the medical community, most anyways, jump on this to quickly like they got a new toy to play with.
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They jump on it quickly because they don’t want to be accused of conversion therapy, and they can also make money from people’s insecurities potentially for their rest of their lives if they get them medically dependent
We live in a bizarre era and even though surrounded by the achievements of science, ideologues have seemingly taken over and dictate the gender narrative. Where is this all going? I don't really know, but it doesn't seem to a good place.....
read "the road to serfdom"
@@naughteedesign what is it about?
@@Isobel31Swan (I'm re-reading it now), it's a warning of how our govnerments can be subverted, an examination of pre and post WWI socialist developments in power, essentially a warning (by a famous economist _hayek_ ) of allowing governments to centrally plan anything :) fascinating considering it was written in 1940-43, author copped a bunch of criticism however was proven correct, history has shown him to have been slightly pulling punches.
These messed up kids will be our future leaders...Forcing more unnatural acts natural on us. If you don't agree your socially scorned and sent to the whipping post and disgraced....
It seems that the puberty blockers are now seen more as a way of getting to the legal age for starting cross sex hormones rather than buying time for a change of mind.
Absolutely the best and most informative interview I have ever experienced on our endocrine system
Dr Malone succinctly maps out the scientific functions of the organs and simply states their health impact & importance.
His explanation on the effects of sugar has me determined to change my unhealthy addiction to “sweets”.
Seriously, I believe this single interview may potentially save lives. If only more Endocrinologist were instructed in his method of presentation, I believe many people would make better health decisions.
The trans community might have one thing right; it’s not their choice to be trans…it just may be a lethal equation of a mismanaged endocrine system along with childhood trauma and social propaganda.
The push to normalize a transgender lifestyle is a direct & purposeful attempt to normalize a lifelong, life threatening dis functioning, diseased human body.
It’s criminal, evil and those pushing disease upon our children and fellow humans need to be held accountable.
This sounds like what Hitler's wicked experiments did on the Jews. What the HELL???
I remember how badly the pill affected me ( I ended up with pulmonary embolisms) and that was just from too much estrogen so I cannot even imagine how bad this will be effecting these kids
This is SO IMPORTANT and I'm so thankful to have this as a resource to share with people.
This is a great show. You should make one with endocrinologists specifically about androgens and the importance of testosterone to biologically males' health.
Most of these young boys getting chemically castrated, or due to surgery, cant even spell ''endocrinologist'' yet alone to have had an appointment with one to inform them what the specific hormones do to the male body, and that with out them you CANT be healthy.
This guy is brave, so important to hear the medical side
I found the last part so interesting. No idea that stress so depleted the immune system , causes of type 2 diabetes and malignancy. Got me thinking about my childhood of excessive obedience and compliance resulting in tolerance of abusive marriage, must be that I am just too nice🥊
I can't emphasize enough how vital and important this discussion is. As a mother of a Trans id child.
And catching the unexpected diabetes discussion near the end... I'm type 2 diabetic... the cortisol and stress stuff rings very true. Hadn't thought it was cos I am such an awesomely nice person 🤔😏. But a worrier with depression & anxiety.. for sure.
Same here. Add low immune system and recurring melanomas and I get the full whammy for my compliance.👩🔬
Wow. So much information. The way Dr. Malone speaks/explains to the lay person is fantastic. Thank you.
How is it that you have such few subscribers?
Because RUclips's goal is to destroy both masculinity and femininity.
unsavoury truths are not popular, who would have thought. :)
I think YT shadow-hides some of Benjamin's videos. . . Not quite shadow-bans, but downranks them in people's feeds.
I've already been subscribed since his first Evergreen videos, and I've clicked the bell for notifications; but I don't always get notified when he posts new videos.
Sometimes I do, but more often I don't.
It's weird.
@@zxyatiywariii8 good point, Benjamin took on the church of intersectionality, not on just took-on but took-chunks from and continues to do so, as we all know now the big tech. firms are rife with with these types who are actively demoting and hiding wrong-think like this.
@@naughteedesign Benjamin has been pretty evenhanded but no trans-trenders are willing to talk to him, so he might come off as anti-trans when he is just being cautious about maiming mentally ill kids.
😮one of the most educational and enjoyable interviews I’ve seen, could have listened for hours 👏🏻👏🏻
This guy needs to be on Rogan
Wolf Hammer and on Crowder.
This doctor is so troubled. My heart goes out to him. He's principled in a profession that has lost its mooring.
He is not “troubled “ , he is concerned. The former implies he is crazy !
Excellent. And we women, who are generally the ones to raise children, and I work with them, need to educate ourselves in order to give good advice when we are asked. I grew up in the UK and have lived here for years. I always use both when researching and I have been reading books from both on fertility, STDs, and girls getting puberty blockers and having their breasts cut off. And why they do this. Porn is mentioned.
This video popped up in my feed. This Dr is an excellent communicator!