I’ve played this series so many times, I can still quote it lol you were close! He actually says, “you know what I think? if Hawke had been at the conclave, he’d be dead too. You people have done enough to him.”
The Champion of Kirkwall's Entire Life is PAIN... just when you think Thedas has thrown everything it can at them it one ups itself once more. Bioware must've either Hated Hawke or are sadistic when it comes to their Main Protagonist
I’ve been more attached to gum I stepped on than the character that is Hawke’s mother. You gotta to experience better stories than this. This is nothing.
Bodan: You should wait until it gets dark [to look to your missing mother while a serial killer is on the loose] so the streets are emptier and easier to find her.
Orsino, who gave Quentin the books to perform the ritual and helped him avoid the templars, while also hiding said ritual from Meredith: *Homer Simpson hedge meme*
Saddest moment to me was after the Legacy DLC if everyone is dead. You talk to Gamlen, then after he leaves, you talk to your mother's ghost and she tells you that they're always with you and it will be alright.
@xxflaxxdread first scene with Fenris and his sister is in Act 3 after confronting and defeating Denarius. Second scene with Hawke and Carver is at the end of Act 1 in the Deep Roads (after defeating the giant rock wraith) if Carver (or Bethany) is in the party but Anders isn't. Game has replay value . . .
At the end of the game, I feel like he didn't asked for this. The mage rebellion, leaving his own home again. Feel like the only things holding him together are his friends.
@@Become-Eggplant And I always remember what the Inquisitor says of Hawke if he dies in Adamant, that he accomplished all of what he did by himself. He suffered great personal losses, played a crutial part of the events that almost broke Thedas apart before Corypheus, and all of that without the authority of being a Grey Warden or an Inquisition behind his back. Just the sheer determination of surviving to protect his family/friends. Of the three protagonists, I think he's the one with the most amount of self-earned worth.
Leandra's death was the last straw for my mage hawke to betray the mages and sided with the templars. I understand not all mages are bad. But after leandra's death I just have not faith towards the mages anymore
So you'd rather see hawke acting out like Sasuke and destroying kirkwall? Until the inquisitor comes from fereldon to stop him because he's hawke's friend. 😂 hahahaha Datebayo!!!!
That quest bothered me. Bodahn, Sandal and/or Orana should have been with Leandra when she went to meet that anonymous individual courting her. If it were Sandal, he'd protect her with "Not Enchantment."
@@LordBloodravensandals enchantments are powerful indeed. Time and time again he amazes me but i know the truth why he can make so powerful enchantments.
That whole plot line was just stupid. The whole game (with a sliver of exception for the DLC) is stupid. Could not bring myself to finish, and will never play it again.
I think Hawke is one of the most profound characters bioware has ever written. His life is a continuous alternation of suffering and pain, never a moment of peace, Hawke's life is marked by deep traumas. He made me empathize a lot, and I think that if a game can convey and leave these emotions in you, it's a great game. Nice video, make more!
I really hope there’s a good payoff to their character in DA4, I hope they come back whether or not they “died” in the Fade and have a real send off as the Champion of Kirkwall, hell I would even be fine with the Fade sacrifice character being an antagonist
@@FathersUnited-fu there were leaks and it’s a mission based hack and slash co op game that used to have live service features that they’ve cut out and are now attempting to make something out of it but given biowares recent history I have extremely serious doubts it’ll be any good which sucks because DAO is my fave game of all time
The best outcome for Carver was leaving him behind and letting him become a templar. He eventually comes around to understanding Hawke and why the family avoided the attention of the people for so long. He writes about how awful the tower is and how poorly the mages were being treated. Eventually he apologized for being such an ass to Hawke for all those years and it makes me glad that Hawke still has family left instead of being hunted and alone.
He has a good arc as a templar too. He tries to help mages from his position and in the end he stands up to Meredith and refuses to fight his own sibling. Carver can be an ass, but he's such a well-written character, one of the best in DA2.
He remains somewhat bitter. As a warden he actually grows. He softens towards his brother and his confidence in himself grows to where its clear he feels he no longer has to compete. Its the opposite for Bethany. Its better to leave her behind so she goes to the circle. She resents you if she becomes a warden.
I prefer Warden Carver to Templar Carver. He grows more as Warden than as Templar. As Warden he starts off bitter, but as time passes, he appreciates the freedoms but also Hawke more. While Tenplar Carver had to learn more of a lesson to best understand Hawke.
Too bad it was a rushed project because of EA, could've been so much better. I'm not hating on the game, just saying it could be MUCH better if corporate overlords EA didn't do their corp stuff.
is it too much to ask for dark fantasy like origin with gameplay like da2 (inquisition kinda scratched that itch but its such a slog going thru every map to fully clear them). but im glad that we get to experience each of these games even with all their ups and down.
Out of all the Dragon Age MCs I've never dreamt of living Hawke's life. Man loses everything no matter what choices you make in game. Add insult to injury canonically they're left in the fade to battle the oldest demon conceived.
I didn't like the game because you play as Hawke as opposed to your own origin character, and it seemed to me like Hawke is supposed to be a male mage, so it's lacking in the rpg aspect imo. Another big thing I didn't like was the lack of style the game had, in regards to the ui and menu. A dull reddish black and lack of detail, whereas origins ui had much more style and details. Finally I found the story boring, I never became attached to any characters and found that spending the whole game in one city was not exciting. I also thought the shift of focus to mages vs templars to be boring, especially compared to origins which is about a world ending threat.
Hawke has been through hell, and depending on choices made, his sibling dies in the deep roads/becomes a grey warden/or Bethany joins the circle/carver becomes a Templar knight, if mage, you lose sister at the start, otherwise the brother. Can anyone really blame Hawke for not wanting his companions to murder their family regardless of the past? Honestly, how could he have held onto his mental state despite the emotional turmoil?
@@CyrussNPfor bethany it is, she will resent (sorry for the misspel) it every moment because being a grey warden is consuming and making her tired of life, the best fate for bethany is to be a circle mage
True and tbh its not really saving her as she will still die to the blight anyway. You just slowed its progression. She writes letters stating how she hates the sleepless nights filled with nightmares and days fighting darkspawn. It's no life it's servitude and Bethany loaths Hawke for forcing her into that life. Much better for her to be a circle mage as she does talk rudely to Hawke but nowhere near as bad if she was a warden. Plus you save her personally from the Templar and your relationship is mended before then.
Probably because the entirety of his story is a wet fart that has no real depth, and why should anyone give a fuck? Seriously, I don’t understand all this “Woe is Hawke!” drivel I see in the comments. His whole story was “meh” from start to finish. Not even that traumatic, his life is pretty decent compared the most people in the whole trilogy. “Been through hell” oh pleasez
@bbluva20 dude no one asked what you thought and if you hated it that much fine. But you try pushing out a better game in under a year and see how well it turns out. Bet it wouldn't be half as good. Plus not tragic? You not play past the intro? His sister/brother fucking DIES infront of him in the first chapter. Dude get outta here with that lame critique. The only issue I had was the world map wasn't well developed and the stories were rushed. Other than that it was fine.
Carver was alive & well in my playthrough and I rarely had Fenris in my party. I'll always love these games for how many different ways we're able to play them
Hawke will always be my favorite thing to come from Dragon Age. Underrated as fuck hero. It is disgusting that such a compelling protagonist was shoved into such a rushed game.
(Spoilers) Literally just beat Dragon Age 2 for the first time, Fenris was probably my favourite companion. Tried the romance with him which was interesting while playing a Mage, had ups and downs and I ultimately had to kill him in the end. What a tearjerker ending that was. Honestly can't wait for my second playthrough and I can't believe people didn't like Dragon Age 2 when it launched. Probably my favourite BioWare game thus far
You didn't ask, but I'm giving my opinion anyway. There was always an end goal in Dragon Age Origins and Awakening. In DA2, there never really was an end goal per se; it was just a character living a life and having some crazy things occur that said character became involved with. That radical shift in story telling was off putting for a lot of people who felt that the game didnt have any real focus (and the simplified mechanics for better console play). Once people began to understand that the relationships and events surrounding the characters WERE the story (rather than side plots), people warmed up to it. Took a while, though. Excellent game. Damn Anders . . .
I restarted the game and brought Anders to the deep roads so that at least Bethany could have a happy ending. I ain't watching her die or go to the Templars.
SPOILER ALERT Actually the best outcome for Beth is to become a mage in the circle. She will find peace with her magic talent and will be in the circle taking care for the mages that did not rebell. For Karver the best outcome is to become grey warden. He will stop comparing himself with the Hawke and will find a greater purpose. Beth with wardens and Karver with templars are worse outcomes that will make them unhappy about their lives.
oh my god i get you!!!!!! I can't imagine the impact of our choices in DAI will impact DA4.. oh crap.. I hope I didn't leave a ticking bomb anywhere.. gods! Kinda reaped some consequences throughout DA2 and DAI.. went back to draogn age keep and fixed them all lmfao.. I couldn't handle some of the outcomes of my choices in previous games....
Oh my goodness, this hits close to home because I had Bethany and my party for so long that when she died and I had to give her that Mercy...... It wrecked me. Rest in peace Bethany you'll always be my title healer! 😭
When I first played this game, I had to make that hard choice and swore every playthrough afterward I would never let her venture into the deep roads until I found out that if you take her and Anders with you and varric into the deep roads, you save her by her becoming a grey warden. Bethany is the best sibling ever. She was my go to mage. I honestly would have her free to use her magic instead of being apart of the circle under the oppression of the templars
I know dragon age 2 is not perfect but we all must admit Hawke is one of the saddest characters in dragon age he lost everything first there father then there home lost there brother or sister ( depending on the class you pick) then loose ether them again if you bring them to the deep roads or leave them behind to ether join the templars or the circle or the gray wardens then after some time loosing his mother to a depressed crazy blood mage and then his entire home and there friends ( depending on the choices you make)
Seriously, Hawke's entire story is just one personal tragedy after another. First, they lose their father. Then they lose their home and one sibling to the Blight. Their mother blames them for the sibling's death. Then they lose the OTHER sibling. Mom blames them for that too! Then mom is MURDERED! God forbid you romance Anders or fail to gain loyalty from your romance options! 😭 (And people wonder why Varric is our fan favorite. He's the bro Hawke needs AND deserves.)
When hawkes mom died it hit me hard "that man wouldlve kept me trapped here but now im free, ill be with carver and bethany and your father, we'll be a family again....but you'll be all alone" 😢😢
I cried like a bitch when Hawkes mom died cuz now he truly had no one to tie him to his old life. And it was almost as if he had no reason to do anything anymore
If my family didnt turn their backs on me then I would say no to this statement, but I have a 1% understanding to what she felt like. At the same time, I know I wouldnt do what she did. It was just uncalled for imo
Hawks suffereing is why i couldnt bring myself to let them die. They deserve a chance at happiness, a chance to be with Merrill and/or Isabella (in my playthroughs)
My hawke lost her brother after escaping loithering, then lost her sister in the deep roads, then finally lost her mother to a crazed apostate mage, she truly is alone.
DAO was definite a great "origins" of a story while DA2 may lack the RP options DAO have, the drama and tragedy and the realistic dilemma Hawke and the others experienced here are just too memorable and really set the stage for the epic coming of DAI... They may have flaws but this trilogy really isn't complete without each other!
Yes, DA2 had problems with its gameplay design but I couldn't deny how great the story of Hawke and his companions were. And the main story also were great with many emotional plot twist here and there through out the journey.
Am I the only one who’s sibling (I chose the sister) is still alive? She’s a mage in the circle but getting letters knowing she’s alive and growing is good enough for me
Hawke was my favorite MC in Dragon Age. His/her story touched me more than Warden's or Inquisitor's. One of my Hawke's playthrough was very sad. Her sister died, mother died, she had to kill her lover Anders and she ended up dying in Fade in DA:I. And her personality was humorous :(
These scenes are why I love DA2. Looking past the games flaws, to me it was playing(living)through the eyes of survivor and others doing their best fighting to stay alive and move forward. I love this game cuz it shows us what it was like on the other side of experiencing the blight.
Despite how odd of a game DA2 was with its radical change in theme and graphics from DAO, the story and heartbeat of the series really hit home here. By this point you're well into the game, having seen either Bethany or Carver die (or both), carnage in the streets, heartbreak and suffering. Hawke struggles on and gets very little gratitude for it, but even in this moment, after having lost his family and seeing his friend (or lover) in so much pain, he still asks Fenris to show his sister mercy. Not for his own sake, but because he doesn't want to lose another person because of a single bad decision.
This has been an excellent series of games with so many followers so many choices and has taken way to long for another chapter it has always made you very invested in all the characters
Es gab nur einen Moment der mich noch so sehr mitgenommen hat und das war in origens wenn man als Cosland startet... Aber für mich am schlimmsten war der tot von Duncan. Ich mochte ihn immer und wünschte man hätte mehr mit ihm gehabt.
Man you fought back, but that time where you went for it with like 26 seconds way in your territory on 4th down came back to kill you. It was the buffer for the bears to stay ahead.
This is why you never go to the deep roads without a Warden if youre taking a sibling. Also Carver seems to thrive with the Wardens, so that's something.
Hawke is so much like Shepard. Both of them experience so many hardships. People sleep on Hawke cause so many people say it trash don't give Hawke a chance
Who's here after the new Dragon Age game reveal trailer?!@ ... yeah, we'll never experience a story like this again. RIP Dragon Age. You became the abomination you fought off, and hated so much. 😢
Truly the dragon age and mass effect series have a very special place in my heart. Some of the first games i ever played that really hit me emotionally
Hits harder when it’s your sister. DA:2 sure had some good moments. Losing your whole family, being betrayed by your love interest, being blamed for all the events in the end. Enjoyed the story a lot and didn’t mind the simple gameplay. Fell short on world design and things to do but glad we still got what we got.
Hawk was such a great main character and he had so much potential and Bioware didn't do shit with him after DA2. Why not making him the main character of DA3 why not??
The first time I played it I took Carver with me and left Anders at home. Never again , I never have the heart to not let him come with me to the expedition, but can never let him die either.
They just dropped the first trailer for the new Dragon Age game titled "Veilguard". Based on the tone of the trailer, we're not going to get any emotionally impactful scenes like this ever again...
If you take Carver/Bethany with you to the Deep Roads expedition in Act 1 they end up catching the Blight, if Anders is in the party he can lead you to some nearby Grey Wardens who can take Carver/Bethany in and save their lives, but if Anders isn’t in the party then Hawke’s sibling will die in the Deep Roads
It is shame how new games cant even get close to old games writings We need more good stories not just heavy focus on graphics and end up being 7 hours game
Dude, it can look like 90s Doom and I'd play it if the story was fantastic. I don't like High Detail games like the children of today do. Look at how Halo started, murky details and basic models, but one of the best stories ever. Now it's all prettied up and they killed Cortana. Still a good story though, shouldn't have killed Cortana, and the details are so amped I need a new PC...
Hawke was a tragic character no matter your decisions. they had no power to change their fate, no matter how hard they tried. This is why blue hawkes are my favorite. world just destroyed them on every turn and they still stayed kind to it. that takes an extraordinaly strong person to do so...
This shows how different each playthrough can be because for me, fenris basically despised me, but worked with me despite our different vuews becausevi stillbdid what was right. Carver immediately joined with the templars and barely talked to me at all. The only time i engaged with his character was at the end when i convinced him not to side with the bbeg
I never killed him, I left him out and he became a templar. That seemed a more fitting relationship for them. When Hawk's mother died and how she died, that wrecked me.
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“I wanted you to leave him alone, he’s been through enough with you people”
-Varric
I’ve played this series so many times, I can still quote it lol you were close! He actually says, “you know what I think? if Hawke had been at the conclave, he’d be dead too. You people have done enough to him.”
The Champion of Kirkwall's Entire Life is PAIN... just when you think Thedas has thrown everything it can at them it one ups itself once more. Bioware must've either Hated Hawke or are sadistic when it comes to their Main Protagonist
@@SusanaCanales1The original quote is what varric says to Cassandra
@@SusanaCanales1 Varric and Hawke is like Shepard and Garrus.
Daaamn I played DA Irgun but I didn’t play DA 2
T^T) finding out barricades line hits hella hard
At this point Hawke has never felt more alone
I agree, he says it with so much pain in his voice. It’s devastating that he loses his mother shortly after losing his brother.
@@LumberJackGamingN7 or sister. WHY IS BETHANY IGNORED 😢😢😢
@@KingDanikMortMage Hawke is the most played class, so a lot of us just don't really get to know her the same way.
@@LumberJackGamingN7and after he said to take care of her.
Hawke loses his father then one of his siblings then the other then his mother. 😢 at least if you dont send one to the deep roads they stay alive.
"Take care of mother"
cue my sad broken heart sobs
I’ve been more attached to gum I stepped on than the character that is Hawke’s mother. You gotta to experience better stories than this. This is nothing.
@@BLK_MN you sound miserable. But thanks for your opinion, I guess? Lol.
Bodan: You should wait until it gets dark [to look to your missing mother while a serial killer is on the loose] so the streets are emptier and easier to find her.
Orsino, who gave Quentin the books to perform the ritual and helped him avoid the templars, while also hiding said ritual from Meredith: *Homer Simpson hedge meme*
Saddest moment to me was after the Legacy DLC if everyone is dead. You talk to Gamlen, then after he leaves, you talk to your mother's ghost and she tells you that they're always with you and it will be alright.
Played through the main game several times. Apparently, I need to play through the DLCs some more . . .
I have carver alive and that happen to me
This scene is in the dlc? i dont remember this being in the base game?
@@xxflaxxdread yea it's in, it's sad though
@xxflaxxdread first scene with Fenris and his sister is in Act 3 after confronting and defeating Denarius. Second scene with Hawke and Carver is at the end of Act 1 in the Deep Roads (after defeating the giant rock wraith) if Carver (or Bethany) is in the party but Anders isn't.
Game has replay value . . .
After everything Hawke went through... How did he not became a blood mage and decided to kill everyone? He would have every reason to do so.
He had the menatality and will to resist hate and anger
At the end of the game, I feel like he didn't asked for this. The mage rebellion, leaving his own home again. Feel like the only things holding him together are his friends.
@@Become-Eggplant And I always remember what the Inquisitor says of Hawke if he dies in Adamant, that he accomplished all of what he did by himself. He suffered great personal losses, played a crutial part of the events that almost broke Thedas apart before Corypheus, and all of that without the authority of being a Grey Warden or an Inquisition behind his back. Just the sheer determination of surviving to protect his family/friends. Of the three protagonists, I think he's the one with the most amount of self-earned worth.
Leandra's death was the last straw for my mage hawke to betray the mages and sided with the templars.
I understand not all mages are bad. But after leandra's death I just have not faith towards the mages anymore
So you'd rather see hawke acting out like Sasuke and destroying kirkwall? Until the inquisitor comes from fereldon to stop him because he's hawke's friend. 😂 hahahaha Datebayo!!!!
knowing what happens to hawke's mother doesn't make this any better
That quest bothered me. Bodahn, Sandal and/or Orana should have been with Leandra when she went to meet that anonymous individual courting her. If it were Sandal, he'd protect her with "Not Enchantment."
White lily murder oof that was hit under the belt from devs
@@LordBloodravensandals enchantments are powerful indeed. Time and time again he amazes me but i know the truth why he can make so powerful enchantments.
@@LordBloodraven Not Enchantment 💀
That whole plot line was just stupid. The whole game (with a sliver of exception for the DLC) is stupid. Could not bring myself to finish, and will never play it again.
I think Hawke is one of the most profound characters bioware has ever written. His life is a continuous alternation of suffering and pain, never a moment of peace, Hawke's life is marked by deep traumas. He made me empathize a lot, and I think that if a game can convey and leave these emotions in you, it's a great game. Nice video, make more!
I really hope there’s a good payoff to their character in DA4, I hope they come back whether or not they “died” in the Fade and have a real send off as the Champion of Kirkwall, hell I would even be fine with the Fade sacrifice character being an antagonist
He got to clap Isabela's cheeks and get the clap doing so. Truly a tragic figure.
He's the Spiderman of biowear
@@TheStraightestWhitest💀
He like Guts but tiny
I want them to remaster the Dragon Age series so bad.
Fr man the series is so fuckin good I mean da 2 was a bit of a hit n a miss but still held its own
Same!!!!!! I don't care about a new game - just let me replay the old ones!
The new one looks absolutely brutal from the leaks
@Mkrause762 haven't seen anything. Is it in a good or bad way?
@@FathersUnited-fu there were leaks and it’s a mission based hack and slash co op game that used to have live service features that they’ve cut out and are now attempting to make something out of it but given biowares recent history I have extremely serious doubts it’ll be any good which sucks because DAO is my fave game of all time
The best outcome for Carver was leaving him behind and letting him become a templar. He eventually comes around to understanding Hawke and why the family avoided the attention of the people for so long. He writes about how awful the tower is and how poorly the mages were being treated. Eventually he apologized for being such an ass to Hawke for all those years and it makes me glad that Hawke still has family left instead of being hunted and alone.
Yeah, it was nice to see Carver growing up. In the end, he defy Meredith, and joins you to stop her madness.
He has a good arc as a templar too. He tries to help mages from his position and in the end he stands up to Meredith and refuses to fight his own sibling. Carver can be an ass, but he's such a well-written character, one of the best in DA2.
He remains somewhat bitter. As a warden he actually grows. He softens towards his brother and his confidence in himself grows to where its clear he feels he no longer has to compete. Its the opposite for Bethany. Its better to leave her behind so she goes to the circle. She resents you if she becomes a warden.
I prefer Warden Carver to Templar Carver. He grows more as Warden than as Templar. As Warden he starts off bitter, but as time passes, he appreciates the freedoms but also Hawke more. While Tenplar Carver had to learn more of a lesson to best understand Hawke.
@@bethkrager6529 I agree warden Carver lets him step out of Hawke's shadow and he seems much happier for it
Hawke losing everyone in their family (depending on choices) is so incredibly heartbreaking.
Dragon Age 2 is what dark fantasy ought to be.
Too bad it was a rushed project because of EA, could've been so much better. I'm not hating on the game, just saying it could be MUCH better if corporate overlords EA didn't do their corp stuff.
A great game was underneath, but boring world design and other things that only needed time to fix were undone.
is it too much to ask for dark fantasy like origin with gameplay like da2 (inquisition kinda scratched that itch but its such a slog going thru every map to fully clear them). but im glad that we get to experience each of these games even with all their ups and down.
Out of all the Dragon Age MCs I've never dreamt of living Hawke's life. Man loses everything no matter what choices you make in game. Add insult to injury canonically they're left in the fade to battle the oldest demon conceived.
i would take it, make a pac with a demon and kick ass...you know in this world are Alphas and ..deltas
O primeiro MC foi bem pior perdeu pai mãe irmão mulher tutor rei não importa qual raça ele irá perder tudo e se for mulher perde a vida.
father, siblings, mother, friends, city
Doesn't Hawke appear in DAI tho, or am I missing something?
@@XwheelchairsX That's where he gets left in the fade, mate.
DA2 is so underrated
Thank you. Seriously,I dunno why people shit on it. So it's a bit more action based, OMFG the world is not ending.
Hell no, this is, with zero doubts, the worst game ever played. Your life must be fucked if you think *this* is good.
@@BLK_MN Banged up, but not fucked., no.
@@BLK_MN game good
I didn't like the game because you play as Hawke as opposed to your own origin character, and it seemed to me like Hawke is supposed to be a male mage, so it's lacking in the rpg aspect imo. Another big thing I didn't like was the lack of style the game had, in regards to the ui and menu. A dull reddish black and lack of detail, whereas origins ui had much more style and details. Finally I found the story boring, I never became attached to any characters and found that spending the whole game in one city was not exciting. I also thought the shift of focus to mages vs templars to be boring, especially compared to origins which is about a world ending threat.
Hawke has been through hell, and depending on choices made, his sibling dies in the deep roads/becomes a grey warden/or Bethany joins the circle/carver becomes a Templar knight, if mage, you lose sister at the start, otherwise the brother. Can anyone really blame Hawke for not wanting his companions to murder their family regardless of the past? Honestly, how could he have held onto his mental state despite the emotional turmoil?
Bethany becoming a Grey Warden is awesome though, nothing all that tragic about it IMO.
@@CyrussNPfor bethany it is, she will resent (sorry for the misspel) it every moment because being a grey warden is consuming and making her tired of life, the best fate for bethany is to be a circle mage
True and tbh its not really saving her as she will still die to the blight anyway. You just slowed its progression. She writes letters stating how she hates the sleepless nights filled with nightmares and days fighting darkspawn. It's no life it's servitude and Bethany loaths Hawke for forcing her into that life. Much better for her to be a circle mage as she does talk rudely to Hawke but nowhere near as bad if she was a warden. Plus you save her personally from the Templar and your relationship is mended before then.
Probably because the entirety of his story is a wet fart that has no real depth, and why should anyone give a fuck? Seriously, I don’t understand all this “Woe is Hawke!” drivel I see in the comments. His whole story was “meh” from start to finish. Not even that traumatic, his life is pretty decent compared the most people in the whole trilogy. “Been through hell” oh pleasez
@bbluva20 dude no one asked what you thought and if you hated it that much fine. But you try pushing out a better game in under a year and see how well it turns out. Bet it wouldn't be half as good. Plus not tragic? You not play past the intro? His sister/brother fucking DIES infront of him in the first chapter. Dude get outta here with that lame critique. The only issue I had was the world map wasn't well developed and the stories were rushed. Other than that it was fine.
Carver was alive & well in my playthrough and I rarely had Fenris in my party. I'll always love these games for how many different ways we're able to play them
I put Carver in the Grey Wardens cause it feels better than him being a Templar cause at least Hawke still have a living sibling
Hawke will always be my favorite thing to come from Dragon Age. Underrated as fuck hero. It is disgusting that such a compelling protagonist was shoved into such a rushed game.
Thanks, bro
People hated DA2 but it was a fantastic game imo. It brought combat up a notch and made it more of a character focused game
Yea it’s a decent game, still a pretty big step down from origins and lacking compared to the newer inquisition.
I love Carver so I never get this scene...oh god, I can't stop crying.
(Spoilers)
Literally just beat Dragon Age 2 for the first time, Fenris was probably my favourite companion. Tried the romance with him which was interesting while playing a Mage, had ups and downs and I ultimately had to kill him in the end. What a tearjerker ending that was.
Honestly can't wait for my second playthrough and I can't believe people didn't like Dragon Age 2 when it launched. Probably my favourite BioWare game thus far
You didn't ask, but I'm giving my opinion anyway.
There was always an end goal in Dragon Age Origins and Awakening. In DA2, there never really was an end goal per se; it was just a character living a life and having some crazy things occur that said character became involved with. That radical shift in story telling was off putting for a lot of people who felt that the game didnt have any real focus (and the simplified mechanics for better console play). Once people began to understand that the relationships and events surrounding the characters WERE the story (rather than side plots), people warmed up to it. Took a while, though.
Excellent game. Damn Anders . . .
Damn...you killed Fenris? I could never. & I was a male Hawke.
I'm surprised how many people actually like Fenris
@@jonahkaun891 yeah..
people wanted to save the world
for 100000 time😂
DA2 is my favorite bioware game too..
Most Emotional game they made..
@@jonahkaun891 yeah..
people wanted to save the world
for 100000 time😂
DA2 is my favorite bioware game too..
Most Emotional game they made..
I restarted the game and brought Anders to the deep roads so that at least Bethany could have a happy ending. I ain't watching her die or go to the Templars.
I was happy to send her to the Wardens. Alistair and Warden Commander Cousland are why I respect them.
Bethany hated being a warden though
@@xxvwaver Still better than possibly ending up tranquil in some prison during the rebellion.
Sometimes you need to steer someone in the direction they don’t like for they safety like making her a gw
SPOILER ALERT
Actually the best outcome for Beth is to become a mage in the circle. She will find peace with her magic talent and will be in the circle taking care for the mages that did not rebell. For Karver the best outcome is to become grey warden. He will stop comparing himself with the Hawke and will find a greater purpose. Beth with wardens and Karver with templars are worse outcomes that will make them unhappy about their lives.
*he did not took care of mother*
He did but fucking Orsino were covering the Serial Killer. Fuck mages, fuck templars. I only sided with Mages only to protect Bethany.
Ow
It wasnt his fault
He did, her mother was murdered, and no one see that coming.
He did. Was out of his hands.
This dragon age was my favorite one. It was just too short.
Bro bioware games always tug at the heart just the right way to where your never the same after playing their games
And this is why i leave the siblings behind or bring anders and why i always make Alastair king so i don't have to make that choice in DAI😂
oh my god i get you!!!!!! I can't imagine the impact of our choices in DAI will impact DA4.. oh crap.. I hope I didn't leave a ticking bomb anywhere.. gods! Kinda reaped some consequences throughout DA2 and DAI.. went back to draogn age keep and fixed them all lmfao.. I couldn't handle some of the outcomes of my choices in previous games....
Oh my goodness, this hits close to home because I had Bethany and my party for so long that when she died and I had to give her that Mercy...... It wrecked me. Rest in peace Bethany you'll always be my title healer! 😭
When I first played this game, I had to make that hard choice and swore every playthrough afterward I would never let her venture into the deep roads until I found out that if you take her and Anders with you and varric into the deep roads, you save her by her becoming a grey warden. Bethany is the best sibling ever. She was my go to mage. I honestly would have her free to use her magic instead of being apart of the circle under the oppression of the templars
I didn't want to cry 😢today...damn why did I watch your short
Dragon Age 2 is underrated as fuck.
Gideon Emery is such a good voice actor.
Depending on your initial choices, you can have him as the Herald's voice in Origins. You can have Mark Meer, as well.
this game honestly out of the bioware games i played....this one was one of the best...
Gotta say, as sad as the situation is, it was refreshing to hear that an elf would even be able to become a magister
She was lied to.
@@bethkrager6529 right, but if it was impossible for any elf to become a magister, she wouldn't have believed the lie
Ugh, fine. I’ll replay the Dragon Age series again. DA 2 will always be my fave!
I know dragon age 2 is not perfect but we all must admit Hawke is one of the saddest characters in dragon age he lost everything first there father then there home lost there brother or sister ( depending on the class you pick) then loose ether them again if you bring them to the deep roads or leave them behind to ether join the templars or the circle or the gray wardens then after some time loosing his mother to a depressed crazy blood mage and then his entire home and there friends ( depending on the choices you make)
"take care of mother" knowing what happens... i can't.. the pain is too great....
also i reloaded my save just to avoid this fate
Holy crap, I didn’t kill Carver but Varric did kill his brother, and he told Fenris to not do it, it feels awful.
Damn, now I gotta play through all 3 again (plus dlc).
At the end if you do everything right you get all of them helping you it is just so freaking fantastic epic fight for sure
I always leave my sibling at home so they don't die in deep roads 😢
They can be made Grey Wardens by taking Anders and siblings to the deep paths.
Seriously, Hawke's entire story is just one personal tragedy after another. First, they lose their father. Then they lose their home and one sibling to the Blight. Their mother blames them for the sibling's death. Then they lose the OTHER sibling. Mom blames them for that too! Then mom is MURDERED!
God forbid you romance Anders or fail to gain loyalty from your romance options! 😭
(And people wonder why Varric is our fan favorite. He's the bro Hawke needs AND deserves.)
Hawke has the most tragic life and I will forever cherish her and this game
Those who suffer the most pain have the gentlest and kindest of hearts.
When hawkes mom died it hit me hard "that man wouldlve kept me trapped here but now im free, ill be with carver and bethany and your father, we'll be a family again....but you'll be all alone" 😢😢
Killing a blood relative stains the soul. Oldest story in the bible.
I cried like a bitch when Hawkes mom died cuz now he truly had no one to tie him to his old life. And it was almost as if he had no reason to do anything anymore
This is what the next Dragon Age is gonna do to everyone who played the previous games man.
This made me cry manly tears 😢
The both (fenris and his sister) have good points
If my family didnt turn their backs on me then I would say no to this statement, but I have a 1% understanding to what she felt like. At the same time, I know I wouldnt do what she did. It was just uncalled for imo
STOP I HAVE NEVER RECOVERED FROM MY FIRST PLAYTHROUGH I REGRETTED NOT HAVING ANDERS AT ALLLLLL AND IT'S BEEN YEARSSS
Either your sibling dies or become a grey warden or gets taken away to join the templar's or mages
"Hurtled into chaos, you fight, and the world will shake before you."
to me.. dragon age 2 is best game BioWare has ever created..
and i think for all of fans its most tragic and emotional one!
This is so sad!! Definitely killing Carver my next playthrough
If they could just do a "Legendary" version of this series like they did with ME (along with bug fixes) that'd be greaaaaaaaaat.
this game is amazing
I completely agree!
"It's only you now"
Hawks suffereing is why i couldnt bring myself to let them die. They deserve a chance at happiness, a chance to be with Merrill and/or Isabella (in my playthroughs)
My hawke lost her brother after escaping loithering, then lost her sister in the deep roads, then finally lost her mother to a crazed apostate mage, she truly is alone.
DAO was definite a great "origins" of a story while DA2 may lack the RP options DAO have, the drama and tragedy and the realistic dilemma Hawke and the others experienced here are just too memorable and really set the stage for the epic coming of DAI... They may have flaws but this trilogy really isn't complete without each other!
Yes, DA2 had problems with its gameplay design but I couldn't deny how great the story of Hawke and his companions were. And the main story also were great with many emotional plot twist here and there through out the journey.
They seriously need to remake the first two games....
I agree but I would add Inquisition as well
It would be interesting to see a remade Inquisition too
@@LumberJackGamingN7I’d love to see graphic character models for like Cassandra and other companions
Am I the only one who’s sibling (I chose the sister) is still alive? She’s a mage in the circle but getting letters knowing she’s alive and growing is good enough for me
Hawke was my favorite MC in Dragon Age. His/her story touched me more than Warden's or Inquisitor's. One of my Hawke's playthrough was very sad. Her sister died, mother died, she had to kill her lover Anders and she ended up dying in Fade in DA:I. And her personality was humorous :(
These scenes are why I love DA2. Looking past the games flaws, to me it was playing(living)through the eyes of survivor and others doing their best fighting to stay alive and move forward. I love this game cuz it shows us what it was like on the other side of experiencing the blight.
I want to have the feeling of playing this game for the first time again
Despite how odd of a game DA2 was with its radical change in theme and graphics from DAO, the story and heartbeat of the series really hit home here. By this point you're well into the game, having seen either Bethany or Carver die (or both), carnage in the streets, heartbreak and suffering. Hawke struggles on and gets very little gratitude for it, but even in this moment, after having lost his family and seeing his friend (or lover) in so much pain, he still asks Fenris to show his sister mercy. Not for his own sake, but because he doesn't want to lose another person because of a single bad decision.
It's a descent game, especially considering the short development cycle.
You had a Grey Warden in your party, and didn't bring him when you knew you'd be fighting hordes of Darkspawn?
Ij Veilguard the main protaganists are going to try ask everyone to hug it out because feelings matter
It's possible to save your sibling, but it does make the game more emotional when you don't
"It's just you now." Becomes too real as time moves forward.
Yea it is sad. I never really realized it since ive only had carver dead in one playthrough
This has been an excellent series of games with so many followers so many choices and has taken way to long for another chapter it has always made you very invested in all the characters
I loved my sarcastic arse of a character hawke.
Es gab nur einen Moment der mich noch so sehr mitgenommen hat und das war in origens wenn man als Cosland startet... Aber für mich am schlimmsten war der tot von Duncan. Ich mochte ihn immer und wünschte man hätte mehr mit ihm gehabt.
Man you fought back, but that time where you went for it with like 26 seconds way in your territory on 4th down came back to kill you. It was the buffer for the bears to stay ahead.
This and mass effect trilogy hits different
This is why you never go to the deep roads without a Warden if youre taking a sibling.
Also Carver seems to thrive with the Wardens, so that's something.
Hawke is so much like Shepard. Both of them experience so many hardships. People sleep on Hawke cause so many people say it trash don't give Hawke a chance
Who's here after the new Dragon Age game reveal trailer?!@
... yeah, we'll never experience a story like this again. RIP Dragon Age.
You became the abomination you fought off, and hated so much. 😢
Truly the dragon age and mass effect series have a very special place in my heart. Some of the first games i ever played that really hit me emotionally
Da2 is underrated
Hits harder when it’s your sister. DA:2 sure had some good moments.
Losing your whole family, being betrayed by your love interest, being blamed for all the events in the end.
Enjoyed the story a lot and didn’t mind the simple gameplay. Fell short on world design and things to do but glad we still got what we got.
Hawk was such a great main character and he had so much potential and Bioware didn't do shit with him after DA2. Why not making him the main character of DA3 why not??
The first time I played it I took Carver with me and left Anders at home. Never again , I never have the heart to not let him come with me to the expedition, but can never let him die either.
lmao @ the song 💀
…you can also just tell him to become a Grey Warden
We're lucky hawke didn't decide to basically say fuck it
Honestly I know the reused maps were bad but i loved watching Hawkes journey to refugee to champion prob one of my favorites games
They just dropped the first trailer for the new Dragon Age game titled "Veilguard". Based on the tone of the trailer, we're not going to get any emotionally impactful scenes like this ever again...
Fuck man da2 was so painful dude,great story.
This hurts so bad
It’s been ages since I played this. I’d love to know what main choices led to Hawke having to kill Carver in this scenario.
If you take Carver/Bethany with you to the Deep Roads expedition in Act 1 they end up catching the Blight, if Anders is in the party he can lead you to some nearby Grey Wardens who can take Carver/Bethany in and save their lives, but if Anders isn’t in the party then Hawke’s sibling will die in the Deep Roads
It is shame how new games cant even get close to old games writings
We need more good stories not just heavy focus on graphics and end up being 7 hours game
Dude, it can look like 90s Doom and I'd play it if the story was fantastic. I don't like High Detail games like the children of today do. Look at how Halo started, murky details and basic models, but one of the best stories ever. Now it's all prettied up and they killed Cortana. Still a good story though, shouldn't have killed Cortana, and the details are so amped I need a new PC...
dragon age 2 was hate don release tho. Still better then inquistion imo
Baulders gate 3 is pretty good
BG3!
Hawke was a tragic character no matter your decisions. they had no power to change their fate, no matter how hard they tried. This is why blue hawkes are my favorite. world just destroyed them on every turn and they still stayed kind to it. that takes an extraordinaly strong person to do so...
This shows how different each playthrough can be because for me, fenris basically despised me, but worked with me despite our different vuews becausevi stillbdid what was right.
Carver immediately joined with the templars and barely talked to me at all. The only time i engaged with his character was at the end when i convinced him not to side with the bbeg
Oh hawke 😭😭😭
I either leave them behind or have them become a grey warden, I've already lost one sibling to darkspawn, I'm not letting another one die.
Don't expect anything like this with da dreadwolf
Well rip dragon age
My first DA2 playthrough was an aggresive Hawke with no lover and no family left.
I never killed him, I left him out and he became a templar. That seemed a more fitting relationship for them. When Hawk's mother died and how she died, that wrecked me.