Six slandering Jiraiya. But Jiraiya's story is one with which many men can relate. So many men have died with multiple, serious regrets. It's a moving tale. And the most important part is that he never gave uo, and he instilled valuable lessons that inspired his pupil to save the world. How can you be a loser, when you only taught winners?
In defence of Guy, it’s his attitude, values and relationships with Kakashi and Lee that makes him so great to me. Moments like him being willing to die alongside Lee if the surgery went wrong, him challenging Kakashi to a race when the village was destroyed, boosting everyones moral and showing how much he cares for Kakashi, as he now thinks they won’t be able to do such things with Kakashi being Hokage, have always stuck out to me. I don’t care how strong he is, but that man does everything for the people he cares about. He’s honest, dependable and hard working and I love him for it
I really dislike the narrative pushed that someone has to be a complex character in order to be good. That's not true at all someone can be simple and still play a perfect role in the story and just be great. Might Guy is the perfect example of that.
One point I think might be relevant is Kishimoto was willing to change aspects of the story that he planned, due to the fan response when it was out weekly. This could be why so much of Naruto feels messy
If this is true than it goes to show kishimoto had no clue what he was doing with the series and just kinda got lucky with all his brilliant assistant that made the series what it is today. Like bro look at samurai 8 that manga didn't even last for more than a year. Kishimoto is a fraud cause if you gave oda or kubo a chance to write another manga series. I'm sure they would do so and not get cancelled after the 9th chapter. 😂😂😂😂😂 Kishimoto didn't write Naruto his assintans did.
@@logicandemma8474You are just hating. I see this assistant stuff so much without people knowing anything. Asssistant don't have any control over story. Their job is just to help draw thats it. I'm pretty sure sumarai 8 is more than nine chapters. And it get cancelled because he didn't draw it himself and sci fi is just a really underrated gnere. There isn't much sci fi shonen that is famous. And also there is a lot of kishimoto haters like you. Just look at the recent boruto chapters. It is much better than when kodachi is making the story.
@@logicandemma8474kaguya Clan Ring a Bell ?? That’s kimmimoro’s Clan and he’s literally in the first part of Naruto 😂 the series been written from the beginning your an undercover OP fan
@@logicandemma8474magine thinking assistants write the story 🤡. Kishimoto must’ve stole your candy or something. PS, Samurai 8 had 44 chapters, not 9 dummy
Now I can, because Lee and the chunin exams were SO popular, understand why one would think that the overarching theme of the series is "Hard work trumping talent" instead of "Overcoming hatred." Unless you believe that there can be multiple overarching themes to a series instead of one, I'll compare and contrast the two with every arc, starting with: 1. The prologue - We see Naruto's position within the village and how he's treated with loathing and isolation. I believe his interaction with Mizuki and Iruka is a perfect example of one overcoming hatred against him to see the good in Naruto, while the other falls deeper into it to the point that they take drastic action(like trying to use and kill him). Overcoming talent wasn't even a point here, as Naruto learned the shadow clone jutsu fairly quickly(and couldnt learn the clone jutsu because his chakra control was shit due to his large amounts of chakra) 2. The Land of Waves - Haku grew up in a situation similar to Naruto, being hated for the power he possessed. Instead of choosing the path of vengeance, Haku fought because he loved Zabuza, and paired with Zabuza's final actions, Naruto became inspired to model his ninja way after them. Haku set the precedent of introducing characters that would reflect Naruto himself, not based on talent but instead on how far into hatred they had fallen. There is a reason why Haku, who didn't fall to hatred, was such an inspiration to Naruto. Now, I'll talk about the theme of overcoming talent. There isn't one. Naruto uses the 9 Tails power(which many of you believe goes against the theme of the Chuunin exams) by this point to take down a genius, not his own power 3. The Chunin Exams- The main theme of the Chunin exams is overcoming talent with hard work, but overcoming hatred is also present here. Gaara is a representation of what Naruto could have been if he fell into the cycle, and Naruto began to fear him after that because of the similarities the two share. I believe that it was this arc that Naruto also expressed the hatred HE used to have for the village in the past(something we later figure out he still has with the waterfall of truth). On top of that, the MAIN point of this arc was to present a psuedo war between the nations using the Genin to show off their future military power. If this doesnt foster hatred(and a long list of other fucked up shit), I dont know what else does 4. Sand Invasion arc(do people consider this a separate arc to the Chuunin exams?) - Much of the same thing with the parallels between Naruto and Gaara, but with the addition of Naruto using the 9 Tails power to summon Gamabunta to fight Shukaku. I don't believe hard work trumping talent was really reinforced here 5. Tsunade arc - Naruto learned the Rasengan WAY faster than the Toad Sage Jiraiya(could he be a genius?). He worked hard just to fail but succeeded in the end due to thinking outside of the box. Meanwhile, Orochimaru felt hatred towards the Leaf and wanted to heal his hands to continue his path of destruction, yet was taken down with the help of Tsunade, who overcame her hatred via loss of her loved ones due to Naruto simply being there for her in her time of need 6. Sasuke retrieval arc - Naruto had two main fights, one with Kimimaru and one with Sasuke. For both fights, he used the 9 Tails to try and gain the upper hand(though Lee came in to represent hard work and got bodied until Gaara showed up, so there you go, I guess). The main point of the arc was a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke, as the latter is falling into hatred for his vengeance Now, many believe that hatred only rose to prominence as the main theme in Shippuden, spitting on everything that OG Naruto set up regarding overcoming talent with hardwork, but that is not the case. I could go over the shippuden arcs like I did here with the OG arcs, but seeing as overcoming talent with hard work is RARELY seen there in comparison to hatred, which is much more pronounced at that point, I'm simply going to move on.
The how oh sasuke is so great and talented, and naruto having to work off to do nything. Thts a theme, kishimoto wrote in, since the start. If he didnt wat to av tht overshadow the loneliness and hate thing, well it did, because he wrote it.
@@marocat4749The fck are you even saying. It is not sasuke is tanlented and naruto is hard work. It is 'everyone like sasuke and everyone hate naruto'. You are just looking it wrong. And deep down sasuke hate someone a lot and naruto love iruka a lot. It is that simple.
@@thewiseyounglad2699He literally doesn’t know what he’s saying. He didn’t read anything you said and just was gonna repeat the same tired rhetoric that people who don’t understand Naruto repeat.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 I mean, he's right. Naruto is framed as an underdog compared to Sasuke in the beginning and acts very jealous for it. Except we know he can make 1k clones and has in-built plot armor called Kyuubi which he relies on to win practically all of his fights.
I think Jiraiya was still satisfied at the end. He found the child of prophecy who he believed in and his words were a big part of what convinced Nagato to back down, so he corrected his wrongs and passed his dream onto Naruto, which did a lot. Had that next generation part in that arc as well. Also have some opinions about his combat teaching honestly.
pervy sage gave Naruto his whole ideology which is far more important than any ninjutsu he could have learned so 6 is way too deep in his power scaling bag to make the character and thematic analysis on him.
Honestly obito deserves a lot more love, since the writing for him was great. I feel like the community just doesn’t like him deeply due to them not understanding his actual motivations for why he did what he did but I could be wrong.🤔🐱
I think people don’t like him because before he took off the mask he was menacing and mysterious and then we find out his motives and who he is and he suddenly becomes less of a threat in readers minds even tho he’s still the same threat as always.
For some reason people think he only did what he did because of Rin but he knew that he would never see her again. He knew that when he used Rinne Rebirth he would die. He didn't want to do what he did so he could see Rin again, he did what he did so no one would ever have to suffer through what he suffered through and hoped that the Infinite Tsukyomi would create a world where she was alive so he could believe she was alive in some way somewhere even though he could never see her again
I think Obito would be a much better character if his descent into villainy was more gradual, and not just "oh no, bad stuff happened, I'mma be evil now".
1 thing i dont like about kushina is How she was wanted to be the 1st female hokage But then she was just reduced to a housewife while minato became the hokage
Obito has been my favorite character since his introduction as tobi. And when they were talking about how nobody liked him it was a really true statement.
I can think of one thing about Shisui that makes him so loved by the fanbase. There are a lot of characters in Naruto that are older brother/friend/mentor figures for another character. And we all know how much we love Itachi. And Shisui was shown as an older brother character for Itachi at the very beginning of Itachi's way as ninja. In a way I think Shisui being there for Itachi, helping him, guiding him kind of the same way Itachi did later on for Sasuke when Sasuke was still a kid, this is what makes Shisui so loved. Some of the love Itachi gets is also transferred to Shisui for that. I agree that he is not that important for story, didn't get any character development or anything. It's more like respect and love for helping Itachi than anything else. And I disagree about Jiraiya, but that's probably more of my subjective love for him. He is a great character.
True, throughout the time we got to watch him, we got the impression of a kind, caring yet powerful pacifist. He was the template and rolemodel for Itachi as well as his initial motivation. Upon being ridiculously fast and being the owner of one of the coolest sharingan ability, its no wonder in my mind why people like him. He's like Kira from Bluelock, a waste of character design. Gone before we could really see them do anything besides die (metaphorically for Kira) to motivate a more impactful character. Power scalers do be wiling tho. Koto is powerful but not that powerful.
Yeah. I agree that certain characters are gassed up way too much, but Shisui isn’t one of them. No one claims he’s the best character in fiction or anything ridiculous like that, people are just intrigued by what we saw of his character and they like him. Nothing wrong with it. Not all characters have to be important to be cool or interesting.
Naruto has some really high highs and some really low lows. I think this is true for most long running epic fantasy style series in general, even the most famous novels like Wheel of Time, Shannara and Riftwar for example are extremely famous and highly praised even though they get heavily criticized for being filled with terrible slogs and disappointing moments. For me, it's a solid 7/10 series. If I'm throwing in childhood nostalgia, I'd even consider putting it up to maybe a 7.7/10.
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723I’ll never understand why the 5 Kage summit never gets any credit. It’s genuinely a great arc. And the war is also a great arc
I didn't really watched it as a kid but I did finish it around a year ago I enjoyed most of it but I didn't really like the ending not the ending ending but the end of the ninja war but overall it was really good
Care to point out those great character writing moments? I'm not a fan, but now that I'm reading the manga I want to look for moments people really liked
i think they arde really under and misused, why i like the comedy/slice off life manga anime centrig rock lee that makes really good use of the characters, in character. And tenten gets hr win against temari in a hillrous yet fair way.
@@simpking1457 Itachi’s character arc is probably the most obvious and praised one, we get to see the touching truth about him revealed gradually. There’re other characters such as Pain, Obito and Madara who also have great plots. The big fights are rooted in great clashes of ideologies. Most big antagonists are done really well.
It depends on the characters really. The villains are written pretty well like Orochimaru and the Akatsuki. The Akatsuki are great so many interesting characters but Kishimoto didn't use them to their full potential which is why it's so frustrating when they all get defeated by teenagers
Dude wasn't even a main antagonist and served the purpose for the arc he was in. EVERY character has potential, but if you cling to them all, then all you get is a cluttered story. Some characters, especially Dosu, are let go after they serve a purpose. That was also a weird pick for your argument, but that's just me.
that guy wasnt even one of the main antagonists lmfao. alright then tell me how he wouldve fit into thge themes of the story and tell me how he wouldve been an impactful villain. I swear u undercover one piece fans are so damn stupid, kishimoto didnt destroy any great potential the vast majority of characters were used as well as they could've
@@thewiseyounglad2699I’m a Naruto goon till the die I day, but some Naruto fans are the exact definition of trying the bite more than they can chew, they want EVERY side character the main character😂
Honestly i think, lee is one of the most overated characters in the fan base, his good, but he got his arc and a complete story, I dont get the idea that he wasnt used enough
It's because Lee never got a real win and we were always built up to the idea that Lee's win was going to be overcoming Neji and both of them just get left to the way side with no conclusion to that conflict.
It sucks because like Lee but it's his character which caused one of the worst takes in the Naruto fandom and you can still see it going strong even 10 years after the series has ended.
Tough one. I love Naruto, maybe it’s in my top 20 favorites, and it was one of my first animes/mangas. I think the series still did plenty of things well such as certain themes of empathy and hatred, we still had great characters like Sasuke, Kakashi, Obito, Nagato, Itachi, the Chunin Exams, Sasuke Retrieval, and Pain’s Assault are all top shonen arcs imo, the art is great, but it also did some things wrong, like… aliens? In a series… about ninja? HUH?! Madara was done dirty at the end, certain characters are just forgotten and completely sidelined, the intriguing power system kinda just throws its rules out by the end, the writing can be inconsistent at times, and a few other things. I think it gets too much hate nowadays for it being popular, but admittedly it does have issues. Overall, I would say it’s neither of them actually. It’s not highly rated as Berserk or Vagabond or Vinland Saga from what I’ve seen, but it’s also clearly not an underrated series cause it’s still gotten a ton of praise. EDIT: Oh it was about the characters 😅😂
@@JusDarkSage foreshadowing is just one step. You have to also work it into the story neatly, and if you ask me, Kishi kinda did the bare minimum to incorporate the whole idea into his writing.
@@cZk75137 I think the weird thing is just how far it goes with Shisui. Like we're talking about a tertiary character who only is in flashbacks and has like 3 lines in the manga who somehow makes a lot of people's top 10 Naruto characters list. Like I've never seen a character with so little presence be so beloved.
@@unc54 to me, he's just a cool ass character. I used to play him all the time in Storm Revolutions and i just thought he was cool af, especially his genjutsu and story with Itachi. To me, he's like Kyoshi from Avatar, we barely know anything about her, but people will still go to war over her. Shisui's just cool in concept, and I don't think it's as big a deal as it's being made out to be.
That was my DOG in part 1 then he did nothing else all series then died to a branch. I’m like bruh idc who threw that shit no body should be dying to sticks at this point cmon jus use rotation or something neji damn 😭
@@austinmc12u mean nobody should be dying to a wood style TEN TAILS ATTACK??!?! It’s literally a wood style ten tails attack that Naruto couldn’t even keep up with. I hate how y’all simplify it to just a branch. Obito literally wiped out a platoon of Anbu with a weaker version of that attack. And Neji LITERALLY tried to use Rotation before saving Naruto and we are shown that there were way too many wood spikes and that his rotation could not keep up. He says this himself. No, rotation would not work. Neji is NOT that strong. Ten tails literally caused a whole cataclysm and flicked away an 8 tails Bijuu bomb but killing NEJI with a wood style attack is just unfathomable.
@ThorRagnarok-sd7gf I disagree. Obito, like many other antagonists, reflects Naruto's character. Obito specifically wanted to drag Naruto to the same hell he was in... And Neji's death was the catalyst. Naruto gets shaken up mentally, and Neji's death after a speech about not letting anyone die shook him too his core. Obito almost won, Naruto almost lost himself, and Hinata got a defining character moment. The people that said it was used only to ship are the weird ones in my opinion.
I think Kisame's biggest problem is that from the start, he was presented as the Nappa to Itachi's Vegeta and he never really crawled out of that shadow, which, how can you blame him? It's good to see him getting some love though, he's easily one of the best Akatsuki.
Jiraiya is a walking L, but he won the most important thing. The love of Naruto. Everything else is insignificant because of his victory with Naruto. Sure you can say his training wasn't great, but without him, who'd have taught Naruto? Ebisu who didn't notice Orochimaru's seal? Kakashi who neglected him for Sasuke? The other senseis who don't know anything about him? The only one who could teach him was Jiraiya. His teachings were more important than anything else. Without him, Naruto would have gone astray. That's why his one win outweighs all his losses.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. The one thing is Kakashi "neglected" Naruto. That's blatantly untrue. He taught him about chakra natures, the basics in chakra, and how to use his shadow clones effectively when training. Jiraiya literally told Kakashi to focus on Sasuke while he himself took on Naruto.
You can be mad that Jiraiya didn't teach Naruto anything during the timeskip (I am), but the truth is that it doesn't really matter, because he did something far more important - he passed his philosophy onto him. Jiraiya played a significant role in making Naruto who he is as a person. His teachings were instrumental in breaking the Curse of Hatred and bringing peace to the ninja world. tl;dr - RESPECT JIRAIYA DAMMIT
@@phill9780 my point still stands, Kakashi taught Naruto and Sasuke the fundamentals. Then in the chunnin exams Jiraiya tells Kakashi to focus on Sasuke.
As someone who's like casually into scaling and vs stuff, if you don't like people going crazy over stuff it ain't great to get into, people in this sphere get absolutely insane when you say something that they think is dumb, it can get toxic real fast for like no reason, the stuff is fun though, but it gets crazy with people.
I jus dont like when ppl try to scale with real world math. Like obviously the author didn’t consider that math do its fucking bullshit. Whay actually matters is feats, statements, and portrayal
@@turokokokoko9714 fair enough, it can work sometimes I think but I do feel people put a little too much stock in calcs at times. Like when a calc comes out saying that a dragon flapping it's wings in space is multi solar... I kinda wanna question the validity of it lol
obito is definitely underrated and one of my fav characters as well, also ik alot of people in my personal life that also love obito, his more popular than u think, ALSO his theme is underrated being the idea of broken heores
Naruto is heavily underated on the female character cast. Not only throughout the story you have women on the same level as great men, like Sakura and Chiyo winning against an Akatsuki member, but during the first phase of the fight against Madara, it's two men and two women, the kages, the ones to fight them and lose together. When people say Naruto doesn't have good female characters, they don't even know what a good female character is. They have a heavy ideological feminist bias, because women in this story kick a$$ and are crucial parts of the story in various moments. Again, when they say Naruto doesn't have good female characters, they don't mean that, what they're really saying is that they wanted Sakura on the same level as Naruto and Sasuke, or more accurate, they wanted Sakura to be the real protagonist, as most recent American productions have done, where the male protagonist is a nobody compared to the bada$$ female secondary character.
There’s a difference on having women characters and having good written Women characters. A lot of women in naruto are diluted in the background and don’t really have anything special about them. The very few that do are usually outshined by there male counterparts. And tbh this isn’t just an issue with women characters. This is just an issue with side characters in general in naruto. I would definitely agree with you if we were talking about OG naruto but shippuden just forgot about it’s cast in general.
@@Sammy123ABC my dude, there's a good bunch of male characters that are treated the same way, your problem with the so called "good written female characters" is not an issue EXCLUSIVE so female cast, Neji got wasted because of a ship between his cousins and Naruto, Lee got wasted, Shino and so on.
I feel like Sakura gets way too much hate from some people, and not enough from others, instead of there being a middle-ground. Personally, I think that she has some absolutely incredible moments of character writing. Note that I say "moments though". Here are what I think are the moments that made her great, and horrible, arc by arc: *-The Land of Waves:* I initially found her insanely annoying due to her insane crush, but learned to like her through the shared respect that was gained between her and the bridgebuilder in the first arc. *-The Chunnin Exams and Sasuke Retrieval Mission:* She had a great scene where she cut off her hair, as a way to cement her progress towards independence. Her fight against Ino, and it's way of conveying their relationship, and how we pettily throw away the things we love due to our immaturity. And how even if they still immaturely crush on Sasuke to a crazy extent, they now realize how it also stupidly blinded them from their own friendship. What broke the nail in the coffin for her, about how immature the reality of her obsession was, ended up being Sasuke leaving and shutting her selfish ideals down *-Shippuden until post Pain Arc:* She actually truly became a character that was independent and finally understood the value in team 7 as a whole, and not just sasuke. She learned that she had been focusing too hard on what she couldn't do, rather then realizing her strengths in knowledge, medicine, and still a certain level of combat (though i completely disagree with sasori vs Sakura being #1, even if i enjoyed it). *-The Kage Summit:* Now here is the bad part. Here is where i believe she got screwed over. She told Naruto, that she loved him. Her intention in trying to stop him from worrying about sasuke, was kind, but it was written so horribly, that it made the smartest team member seem like an absolute buffoon. She was made to somehow think that she could not only make Naruto give up on Sasuke, but also that she could kill him, and she went about doing so in the most disrespectful way she could have ever done. *-4th Ninja War:* She managed to greatly help with the medical efforts, and even strategizing. She even eventually surpassed her own master and became the most proficient medical ninja. I too was sour faced at her remark of catching up to Naruto and Sasuke. Though I very much think that an aspect people fail to remember is that her conversation was all about how the 3 of them had surpassed their "masters", and have each become strong in their own ways. She was not referring to physical strength, but rather self accomplishment. After helping Naruto, Sasuke, and Obito deal with Kaguya, she learned to respect Sasuke as his own person, and accept him as his true self, and not some edgy cute kid. *-Boruto, and Sasuke Retsuden:* She is back with all the good (plus more) and none of the bad. *In conclusion* , I find that a lot of her story was actually great, and I loved it. But I absolutely understand the hate she gets for how sometimes Kishimoto just pretends that she never developed, and makes her into that same immature young girl who just can't see past her own selfish points of view. I really hope that it was just a miscommunication, and that Kishimoto just failed to put his thoughts into words correctly. But looking beyond that, I do feel like she is very underrated for the aspects of her that were done right, instead of ignoring the bad, or the good.
I think that Sakura would have been a much more favored character if 2 scenes were changed: Her confession to Naruto and her confrontation with Sasuke. If, instead of confessing, she told Naruto the truth, then the audience might have gotten to see two diametrically opposed viewpoints on the life and judgment of a cherished one turned criminal. It would be interesting to see the two go back and forth on what mattered instead of the bullshit that didn't. Her confrontation with Sasuke, however, needs a bit of preparation. First, don't have Sakura knock out her teammates. Second, have all of team Taka appear AFTER Danzo is defeated. Third, have the two ragtag teams fight. If everything goes well, then Sakura will fight Karin to show the audience how their love for Sasuke set them on radically different paths. "Im a ninja before im a girl in love!". Sakura could even unleash her diamond seal to take down Jugo(who beat Kiba) and fight Sasuke(who beat Lee), though Sasuke would need to get amped so that he doesnt get bodied(like the full body Susano'o, which would line up with Madara who could do the same thing with his MS). By the end, we could still have a Team 7 reunion(plus Sai who is fighting Suigetsu somewhere). Cuz, in my opinion, these two events assassinated her character HORRIBLY!
My favorite character in Naruto is Kisame because I think he’s the perfect minor villain/ side character. He’s in Naruto since halfway through part 1, had very fun abilities/skills, fun personality, great design and he has a lot of unexpected depth. I never seen anyone really talk about it but Kisame is the only akatsuki member who’s actually in the loop. He joined because he believed in Obitos vision and wanted to see it through which started his arc where he went from someone who killed his comrades to someone who kills himself to protect his comrades.
Tons of people have had multiple failures in their lifetime. That’s why Jiraya works for those who didn’t get much in life. Some people have that opportunity, while others never got that one opportunity their whole life..
A lot of ppl who don't understand obito, they r not made for anime or they don't have a brain to understand that..But nowadays.. Ppl love obito alot.. Nd those ppl were immature at that time.. Let the time pass by more.. Nd ppl will finally understand the character..
True but it’s that way mostly because of shippuden. Shippuden basically forgot side characters even existed and served no purpose to the narrative at all. In OG naruto every new “small” character was a breathe a fresh air and fun to see what they can do. Like rock lees first appearance. But that feeling was completely gone in shippuden because it only focused on the big characters.
This is why I appreciate what one piece and jujutsu kaisen ask about each character: Why are you a ninja/sorcerer? We never learn the characters reasons in Naruto for taking on a dangerous job. jujutsu kaisen says that taking up someone's dying wish is a bad reason to join, basically. and one piece everyone practically says what's important to them. It's like almost with Bleach where we don't really know why some become soul reapers other than showing potential and get drafted. hell, the filler where kiba's mom scolds him for not being the hero after the pain invasion, made me ask why he's a ninja. why any of them are. how gaara was the one side character to get more development confuses me after watching this. Guy and Lee too, sort of, but least we got their motivations
I disagree alot of the characters were background characters with no real good story, its way naruto is way more consistent in its arcs because it doesnt focus on the bad characters. Like rock lee who is extremely overrated, he got a complete story/ arc and was done, yet people wanted him back for no reason, but just that they liked him
@@cohenvale6342 I do get where your coming from but to simply answer your question I would say being a ninja in Naruto is just a way of life honestly, literally the whole world is run by ninjas and such and while there are other jobs kids literally get brought up to be ninjas from extremely young ages, that combined with family expectations and what not I imagine its just natural for someone like Kiba. In Bleach as well its literally unless your a noble if you dont wanna live in the towns that are mostly slums and or boring af places with nothing to do besides your job and hang out with your family and friends. Being a soul reaper also gives you prestige and from the little hints we are given doesn't pay terribly.
"Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to. "Overcoming Hatred(something the ninja world fosters)" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent. And if you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), I don't know what to tell you.
It's funny because the chunin exam ended up preaching "talent trumps hard work". The conclusion of every fight (Except naruto's fights and naruto vs neji is debatable) ended with geniuses beating hard workers. Especially egregious is Sasuke. Lee dog walked Sasuke with his weights on but in a matter of days Sasuke gained physical speed and power matching or even surpassing Lee, on top of sharingan and chidori. Lee spent his whole life training constantly to do what Sasuke does effortlessly and it grinds my gears
Loved to hear yalls opinions on characters and Six being here was dope. But to me Lee is underrated for what his character had to offer still to me, Itachi perfectly rated to me, Obito is underrated as well, Tsunade is underrated to me too while I think Temari is best girl but she ain't written as great as Tsunade, Neji I'm a fan of for sure while I'm surprised people don't like him as much as I thought wish he did more throughout post ts like Lee and he shouldn't have died to me, Shinsui is overrated no clue why people love him unironically so much, Guy I love him to death perfectly rated to me, Gaara perfectly rated to me too and could go on but way too long of a comment already xD
One thing with Orochimaru I've always thought about was, why doesn't he just blitz kakashi and steal his sharingan when he confronts kakshi right after Sasuke's fight in the prelims. Unless you can argue he either A. Doesn't know sharingan eyes work like fuckin light bulbs. Or B. He SOMEHOW knows that kakashis sharingan is actually obitos and that rules it "off limits" for other reasons. It wouldn't be put of character for him to do this in part one either, considering he's about to start konoha crush and engage hiruzen, where the sharingan boost would have helped him dramatically. Also what of orochimaru pulled up to the 5 kage summit instead of sasuke? And if he had the sharingan he could've taken from sasuke would that change the what if of orochimaru going to 5 kage summit?
Modrara,s death is misunderstood. It’s an Icarus situation he flew too close to the sun he tried to become a god and fails this is shown constantly with him being unable to get rid of his basic human nature, that being his love for battle and him nearly being killed by Might guy. for all his boasting. He was just a man and he got killed by his hubris by thinking that he had created something of his well. Mikeyuubi did a great video on this if you want more of an explanation
Naruto was destined to break the cycle of hatred as the child of prophecy. So Neji was right, just not in the way he thought he was. I don’t think people are necessarily praising Neji by saying “Neji was right.” I think they’re suggesting that it was bad/lazy writing.
I think its underrated in some aspect and over rated in others, the themes, parallels are super underrated, and the top 10 characters in naruto, i think is the best top 10 in any other anime
I love Naruto. It was literally what got me into anime and Manga. Seeing the chunin exams arc when I was only 4 years old, it has just as much nostalgia for me as YuGiOh does. It's easily in my top 10 but not in my top 3 or even top 5. I don't think it's overrated or underrated. It's exactly where it needs to be for the majority of the community, it's just up to the individual where it is for themselves. Most One Piece fans think it's dogwater Trash and most diehard Naruto fans think it's the best work of art that's ever touched paper. But most people recognize it as great. Part of the big 3. Clown on it a little for the 48% filler but still recognize that it deserved the majority of the praise it gets. It definitely deserves criticism for the bad ending with Kaguya, Kishitmotos inability to write compelling female characters, how he made a cast too big for himself to ever write all of them to the potential they initially had (rock Lee especially) and how everything Boiled down to everything being focused around the Uchiha. There's a lot more problems I could mention but after everything's set and done, most people overlook the problems for what the story does right. Even though it's only #7 in my top 10, I still think that Naruto has some of the best villains of any series I've ever read or watched. Pain, Zabuza, Danzo, Madara, Obito are all compelling characters that acted in an amazing way or were portrayed in the story at a perfect time in the other characters lives
I don’t think it’s overrated, but as a fan of the series for almost 20 years I have a lot of bias. The storytelling, characters, lore are just top tier and have all aged like the finest of wines. All of this is especially apparent in the manga
I feel that so much too. Especially for the OG naruto. Ik I have a lot of bias but deep down I have to admit what it lacks in. Side characters are basically non existent and serve no purpose to the narrative in shippuden. Villains are pretty great but under utilized especially in the war arc. Madara got hoed by the writer more than any other anime villain ever. Lore wasn’t good at all and was basically non existent for 95% of the show. The storytelling is mediocre in OG naruto and horrible in shippuden. I love naruto and will forever love it and I’ll always have fun watching it but it hurts me to say that it’s very overrated. There’s probably so much more in glossing over but again I’m bias on a lot of things that I probably wouldn’t notice because of my love for the series.
honestly im new to naruto and I still loved it and its in my top 5, i think the reason why people have such emotional connection in its themes and parallels, it’s the best I’ve seen in any manga or anime easily
@@jeffjeff9484 yeah that and nostalgia. The themes are pretty common in anime and you’ll see that more and more if you continue to watch anime. And Naruto does a good job at some of its themes but it doesn’t execute them well. It has a lot of hypocrisies and plot holes that you don’t really notice at first. They’re other anime out there that effortlessly execute Narutos main theme (the cycle of hatred) and do it infinitely better in a way shorter amount of time. Like Vinland saga, attack on titan and many more. And that’s why naruto is very overrated even tho I love it gotta be honest and say what it is.
@@Sammy123ABC I think there common but not as well as Naruto does it, the parallels too and the meaning, speech’s, Naruto theme and parallels the best of out any manga
I was wondering have you read or are you caught up with Tomodachi game if so will you make a video on it bcus the most recent chapters have been insane
I would say rock Lee’s character story about hard work, just would not work during shippuden. It worked in part 1 because Rock Lee was around young kids around his age that did not know any better. A group like the Akatsuki would not care at all what rock lee wants to prove. They don’t have time to acknowledge anything, but their own ideologies.
I agree that Sasuke is the best character. Extremely downplayed in the manga community, often for really petty reasons, without bothering to understand what the character is about. It's impressive how realistic he acts as a survivor of massacre and torture, how wracked he is by the survivor's guilt that leads him on the path on self-destruction. How he both adores and despises his tormentor brother, how he strikes back against those who wish to control his choices (from team 7 to Orochimaru, Itachi and Obito). How he desperately rages against the society that ruined his clan. My only major problem is that he doesn't really fit in the shonen genre, at least not one as idealistic as Naruto, where talk no jutsu solves all problems. He could've easily been a great seinan protagonist with some tweaks here and there, especially the ending.
Naruto has to beat a villains ass just for them to listen to him talk in the first place, and even then he only talks to people that can be reasoned with. The whole point of "talk no jutsu" is that Naruto is trying to rise above hatred by understanding his opponent and hopefully dragging them out of the mental mess they are in by getting them to change their views. For the themes of the series, these fit. And every one of them are pretty philosophical to boot. Naruto is more of a story about "one"s mentality", and talking gets to the core of ir.
Sasuke as a seinin protag would be ass Narutos relationship with sasuke is toxic and shit how you say he is like a brother when he tried to kill multiple times essentially forgiving sasuke for all his crimes and letting him live with no punishment for what he has done
@@thewiseyounglad2699 I understand the purpose of talk no jutsu, i just don't think it's good. It's neither believable nor compelling. Also gets very repetitive.
@@GUYFROMEldos Naruto is an obsessive stalker piece of trash who selfishly wants Sasuke to live in the village which ruined his life, Sasuke should've killed him in part 1 when he had the chance.
Let's talk about Lee, though my first post should be enough to know where he stands in relation to both Naruto and the story, so I'll leave it with this: While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring). Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
I watched it last year, and i loved, its themes and parallels and meaning are better than any manga ive read, and I think its one of the more consistent big shows, bleach and one piece have way more bad arc compared to naruto
While I respectfully disagree with your last sentence personally, the series is still filled with many good things about it. It’s really only some issues that arise here and there. But may I ask since you said “any manga I’ve read,” mind listing a few?
@@jeffjeff9484 dang. Naruto beat Vagabond and One Piece for you? Disagree slightly but ey I respect 👍 for me, I think the parallels of Musashi and Matahachi, Musashi and Kojiro, and Musashi with the older “invincible” swordsmen are stronger and better explored by Inoue. But if that’s how you feel like I said I respect 🤝
@@NinthShinigami just saying vagabond is my fav, but Naruto has it every where for example jariyia is on people missed his so much like Naruto expect his a Naruto that failed, with the whole orchimaru thing, wanting to be hokage, not saving anyone, his personality and so on
This video was actually so enjoyable to watch, pretty interesting concept and it would be cool to make a series out of it with different anime/manga and other creators as guests that are related to that series (Such as Bleach with Clyde and Chuck).
Overrated as hell. I think whatever you put on that channel on that timeslot will become someones childhood. The entire theme of the show is not to judge a book by its cover and you need to work hard and you can make your own destiny. Meanwhile the main character is literal magic wizard ninja royalty who has received every blessing imaginable from the Gods. In a good story, that guy would be the villain. You brought it up - if thats not the theme than what is the major themes? From the episodes ive seen they clearly have a formula and it hits those three themes relentlessly. So you tell me, what are those themes? I love hearing people talk about fiction passionately and its pretty clear you know more about it and care more about it than I do. So if I go back and watch any of this series again what should I be looking out for? The only other theme i could possibly imagine is, "we really want to sell children merchandise."
LMAO hard work was never Naruto's theme so him being a wizard doesn't matter. You guys didn't read the series or are salty One Piece fans😂that was Rock Lee's theme not Naruto's. And Narut o is still far more iconic than One Piece
Obito as Madara was my favorite charater until the real Madara showed up. Even after Obito's identity was revealed he was still my second favorite character and is still even to this day.
In my opinion Sasuke is both overhated and overated, Part 1 sasuke was a masterpiece and all the haters completely misunderstand his character, Hebi sasuke the timeskip sasuke up till itachi fight is also a perfect successor to part 1 sasuke, everything about him was beautiful from character design, combat style, writing and especially the dull and cold Demeanor because it showed how much the isolation with orochimaru and kabuto changed him yet he still kept his morals, but as soon as the convoluted itachi retcon backstory took place sasukes character writing and design was tarnished and only went downhill from there, to me Part 1 to Hebi sasuke is the best character in the series but i think the change in sasukes writing up till the end of Shippuden and potentially boruto make his character drop all the way to B+, that's how bad the changes are imo, his character never made sense and was only a worse version of the previously shown sasuke in the series, he had some funny moments like walking on the limping danzo or the laugh but that's pretty much it, after the war ends and sasukes on his shadow hokage journey that version of sasuke has some of the qualities of hebi sasuke from the early Shippuden series and it's no coicidence that hes super likable, but yes because of how good and missunderstood part 1 sasuke is with the emo hate and edgylord term spammers, i say hes overhated, but with the other side that people say sasuke was perfect all the way through naruto and actually love taka and war arc sasuke or boruto I see him as super overated, sasukw had a peak in the end of the itachi fight and to me only dropped from there and kinda climbed slightly back up with the shadow hokage arc but then dropped down in boruto, and I won't rant on each scenario and example on bad writing moments from Sasuke after the truth about itachi because i have in other videos, but yea that's all I'll say on sasukes character, but this brings up itachi, the most overated character in anime, I've seen some people cry when itachi died in the sasuke fight and that was before the retcon backstory so i find it odd that people sympathize with a pyschopath, he was a decent antagonist in part 1 and set up sasukes motivation and amazing character, was fine in early Shippuden but the retcon backstory makes itachis character look really stupid and goes against his big brain worship that the characters have for him and also take away the weight of his fight vs sasuke, the whole idea that he planned it out is stupid I do still think sasuke suprised him alot but the idea that itachi held back is dumb, itachi also torturing a 7year old sasuke was clear pyschopath behavior and made 0 sense to be retconned, killing innocent kids and moms even sasukes mom but leaving Sasuke Alive made no sense, if u wanna keep you sasuke alive keep the mom alive to, why kill the mom, also why not tell sasuke the truth and have sasuke and his mom live in a different village, also why kill the clan that was only discriminated because obito used the ninetails on the leaf, it just made itachis character look stupid especially with the fact danzo swiped shisuis eye and that whole thing made shisui look pathetic, even tho itachi worshipping the leaf was horrible character writing the fact that after he did it and what he did to sasuke and then instead of kishimoto keeping the pyschopath storyline retcon it and made itachi this genuinely stupid character who thought it was a good idea to almost kill sasuke twice and then rig the fight against him so he can be a "hero" made 0 sense, and what makes it worse is somehow the naruto fanbase actually worships this cringy retconned version of the character, the whole war arc moment of itachi apologizing was him apolozing for his horrible writing it was in our face but somehow the community cries at that moment, again even if we ignore taka sasukes horrible writing and itachis, why would sasukw wanna destroy the leaf thaf itachi killed the clan for and on top of that not target the elders and I wont even talk about sasukes cheesy dialogue in the war arc, the hokage bit or sasukes revolution bs, I wouldn't mind the horrible retcon if it just ruined itachi but it had to ruin sasuke
The alatski as a whole are overated each of them, hidan is probably universally disliked hes a trash character so i won't talk about him, kakazu had such interesting elements about him but died to the worst team and also kakashi in a 2v1, like what was that fight it made kakazu look like shlt, how u gonna take that long in the fight and then have narutos come out of nowhere an hour later with a 10hr charge jutsu and thats how he dies, zetsu is trash tbh, kisame was a decent character but wasn't utilized well, diedara died by basically being a crybaby the fact he killed himself even tho sasuke just wanted itachi made no sense, Deidara hates itachi yet wasn't telling sasuke where he was? I love the Deidara fight because i love sasuke and that was sasukes best fight but that fight also made Deidara look like an idiot, konan waa fodder for her to not destory the rinnegan and get no diffed by jiraya in his encounter, like her whole character was being nagatos puppet, pretty lame if u ask me, pain himself had incredible feats and amazing logic but for him to just regress and listen to narutos cheesy "talk no jutsu" and also revive the people he killed was horrible writing, not only did they miss the opportunity to make naruto an anti hero and have an arc dedicated to his own dark path similar to sasuke, they revived the people that added tension to the arc to begin with, kakashis death was iconic and for him to just be revived made his death pointless and his fight vs pain borderline unrewatchable, but yea pains another overated character for a villian to reset what he did makes his impact almost meaningless, itachi i already explained why hes the most overrated character in anime, obito to me was more interesting as masked tobi always thought his unmasked look was super ugly, his writing was decent i guess, but again his unmasked design looked way too ugly and always distracted me and i didn't like his personality especially paried up with madara, i always didn't like him after the reveal personally and hes def not the best villian especially with the fact hes the antagonist of the worst arc in the series, his fight vs kakashi is supremely overated, Sakura gets the hate she deserves if not more, somehow just somehow she has a mob of blind defenders which is insane but i wont talk about her too much as shes universally hated, if theres any akatski member I didn't say i probably dont like them anyway, as for naruto I mentioned above how he didn't have a dark path arc and i always hated that, his character in part 1 naruto was amazing and for him to not come to terms with the fact he lost sasuke in shippuden pissed me off, instead of naruto accepting sasuke is gone he still stuck up on sasuke and ruins his development, his 3 year timeskip he basically learned nothing, his character design is worse imo other than the sage mode outfit, again narutos character coulda been so much better, with the evil path idea, better training and better writing, hes trash in shippuden and the only highlight is the amazing 4tails and up imo, kuruma carries naruto is basically what im saying in shippuden , while in part 1 i liked narutos character and kuruma was a cool powerup, kakashis character now, how does his guy have 1000 jutsu but only have 4, how does he have a doujin addiction but still stays single, why does he neglect sasuke so much but help shikamaru with revenge, why does he let Naruto and sasuke live alone in part 1 even tho hes aware of it, why does he teach sakura nothing, he was a horrible sensei, hes got some positives to him and i love his character but as a sensei he cringes me alot, to me gaaras character design was much better in part 1 and his writing too, his character is decent in shippuden but i hate his design, but overall hes solid, again i always prefered sasuke to have different writing after tobi told the truth and really wished at thag point he talked with Gaara as gaara cameover the hatred but it is what it is, the kage summit confrontation was super cringe and was not as good as the chunin exams one, rock lee was Amazing in part 1 but they shoulda kept him crippled after the kimmimaru fight amd that explains his characters lack of screentime in shippuden, they also shoulda had neji and choji and kibas character die in the sound 4 fights, whats the point of letting them all live but ignoring them on Shippuden, and how does each sound 4 get no kill literally unrealistic, i always preffered if Tayuya and sakon escaped, again im not a fan of romance plotlines but if u were gonna introduce an orochimaru hideout red head love interest for sasukw why make karin when it coulda just been tayuya , especially with how shes the one to push sasuke along with sakon to join orochimaru, they also had better powers than jugo and karin, to me karins character either shoulda just stayed as a security guard or not existed, and jugo shoulda been a temporary character as for Suigestsu he's awesome and should have had more interesting writing, i always liked his powers and personality, orochimaru was peak in part 1 and for him to just get absorbed and then tell itachi his plan to absorb sasuke was super stupid, i love hebi sasuke and his snake powers, but why would orochimaru tell itachi his plans and die after his reveal that was so anticlimactic and annoyed me, also Shippuden although it sucks second half of pain arc and beyond, why not kill off kabuto amd make orochimaru the ultimate villian, kabuto was super cringe and orochimarus character in shippuden was underwhelming, i dont wanna keep ranting its a waste of time but i would give og naruto a 9.5 and Shippuden a 7 at best, Shippuden had some highs but alot of lows, only reason why its a 7 is because again it had some decent highs but also alot of interesting characters and designs but horrible execution, but of course the casuals will say its better than og naruto and worship Shippuden..
Actually the sakura and sasori fight was my favorite I think it has all of what makes the series great! Weird abilities creepy and cool antagonist, good fight animation not to mention using antidotes mid fight to counteract the poison and the use of seals and tools
Might guys is compelling to me because he’s always upbeat as a person he’s born with a handicap and you never hear him complain once about his circumstances he just works through it and he even takes on lee which i think is very selfless because he had no reason to or any obligation to look after lee and nurtures his talent even going claiming that’s his nindo and claims to die with lee had his operation failed he’s got plenty of great character moments across the story for example when he begged hiruzen to join the Akatsuki because he was concerned about kakashi s wellbeing but he was told he lacks darkness by Danzo this makes him my favorite character in the series
32:59 "The romantic interest Sauke who in my opinion is the best character in the entire series", as someone who firmly believes and has collected many material to objectively prove Sasuke is amongst one of the worst, or at least worst handled characters in Naruto, that's a based opinion and I can respect that
N I finished naruto back in late 2018, early 2019, n I always loved obito as a character , hero and villain , only thing didn’t care for was the same thousand flashbacks bout obito , but besides that as a character that was written , behind madara and for me, Nagato . Obito 3rd best antagonist in the show 🤷🏼♂️. My opinion .
Also, Naruto is on par with any other great young adult story you've seen, from the beginning up until the fight with Pain. The power system, the characters, the pacing, all is top level and it crash like a plane the moment Naruto goes to talk to Pain. That's the exact moment when it, slowly, becomes garbage.
I would argue that it became garbage the second shippuden started and then when the pain arc started it became good again and then at the end of the pain arc it became even more garbage than it was before.
@@Sammy123ABC bro your opions are so dog its crazy, the jariyia arc, the fated battle between brothes, shikamura arcs are all 10/10, also the 5 kage arc and there is still a lot to like about the war
@@jeffjeff9484 Jiraya arc and shikimaru arc are apart of the pain saga. My bad that i said arc. Also the fated battle between brothers is in pain saga too. And all of these were good. But I wouldn’t say 10/10. They had great demonstrations of emotions but the writing for some of it wasn’t 10/10.
@@Sammy123ABC bro your such a hater its crazy that section in the manga is the best written section in all of shenon, the themes, plot twists, villains, character development, and so on, get outta here
@@Sammy123ABC nah, Shippuden has very good plot. I don't see how the start of Shippuden us bad. Care to explain? But yes, from the moment that stup!d prophecy comes into the story all hell breaks loose.
26:40 completely false. I feel like y’all are out of touch when it comes to guy. The love for his character is definitely justified. Though I feel like people tend to overrate his power sometimes
Have to agree Itachi is so Overrated he’s a great character, but when you think about the fact he killed his people for the sake of a village that hates his people…it makes me EH… lol he’s dope just can’t think too deep on his actions 🤷🏾♂️
Sasuke is honestly just a pale shadow of his former self in Boruto and it's pretty sad. He has been transformed into a horrible father with him going off to train the bland main character that is apparently more important than his own fricking daughter. Sasuke was beaten into submission and basically brainwashed, he should not feel comfortable living in Konoha, the place that destroyed everything he loved. Sasuke was supposed to represent a change in the system because he witnessed the darker side. Sarada was reduced to a love interest with her personality now centered entirely surrounding Boruto to the detriment of her own character. Sasuke should have just faked his death using one of the Zetsu clones maybe and lived elsewhere far from the Five Great Nations and the pro-status quo Naruto, who didn't change anything, especially now that everything is crumbling because of the loss of his main source of power and aliens in this Android Saga wannabe sequel.
Sasuke being a deadbeat dad kind of makes sense with his character, but the fact that he treats Boruto like his child more than Sarada does not lmao. In fact I’d argue his whole relationship with Sakura after the war arc doesn’t make much sense. It’s such a weird relationship, Sasuke treats her like shit for the entirety of Naruto part 1 and 2, literally tries to kill her at one point, then once he’s on good terms with Naruto he apparently likes Sakura now I guess? Then he just knocks her up and leaves her to raise a kid alone, and we are expected to believe they have some kind of special love connection? Lmao
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
In my opinion the problem with Itachi isn’t that he’s over/underrated/a bad character, but he has legions of fans that wank him off and excuse all of his actions despite the fact that he’s legit a psychopath and on the same side as Danzo who everybody can evaluate with less bias as a villain. Powerscaling I think alive Itachi is underrated. I would actually argue that Sasuke is the most important character of Naruto and by extension Itachi too though since Itachi’s like single handedly responsible for the trajectory of Sasuke in the story.
@@dajonbarnes5149I’m buggin” no you need to actually read the manga. Itachi conspired with Danzo and did his dirty work for him, with Danzo even respecting Itachi as a Shinobi. Itachi did not FULLY trust Danzo though but that does not change the fact that he literally was operating not just with Danzo but the leaf elders as a whole and followed their agendas. Did the truth about the Uchiha massacre just fly over your head?
Good take for the most part and if we were put in Itachi’s shoes we most likely wouldn’t make the same choice to destroy our family and clan. However as a fan of Itachi even after acknowledging that, we still love him as a character. As a big brother myself I also admire the willingness to protect his brother although his methods were very toxic and could back fire at all time. However in this situation it worked out and he’s looked at as a genius because it did…. Kinda lol 😂. Sasuke definitely didn’t play the role after his death like Itachi thought so that’s unfortunate. However Sasuke did grow to a power that allowed him to assist in saving the world and continue to help save the world along side Naruto. So ya Itachi in the story played a necessary antagonist with overall good intentions. His, drip, Justus, and moments is also is why he’s wildly loved. Number 2 favorite behind Naruto and I don’t agree Itachi was on the same side as Danzo but their common goals did align unfortunately. Danzo is still trash though and Itachi is loved. It is what it is.
I don’t think Naruto had to be One Piece length to have better side characters, they just needed to have cool character moments sprinkled instead of adding more pointless side characters
The Konoha 12 was PRESENT for every major arc, just not UTILIZED as well as they could have been. So lets add this single thing before I go into how I would rewrite them: Kara having the 'Outers' is interesting, so lets do something similar with the Akatsuki and give them the 'Mercenaries'. They wear black cloaks with only a single red cloud on their back. ______________________________ 1. Kazekage Rescue arc- Team Guy was in the arc but didn't do much. Let's change that. A portion of The Mercenaries attack the Hidden Sand Village to cover Sasori and Deidara's escape. Neji, Lee, and the rest of the Sand ninja confront them head-on. Temari takes over a commanding position over her fellow ninja to fight this threat, while Neji and Lee take on the two strongest foes in the Mercenaries there(they are both A-rank ninja). Neji fights a user of the explosion release(I believe that release is canon), pitting his ultimate defense against this guy's ultimate offensive close combat syle. It is later revealed that this guy can cause a delayed explosion to happen to whatever he touched before, giving him the advantage. Things get especially bad when an entire street is primed to blow, but Neji counters with an air palm that dessimates the chakra in the area while simultaneously defeating his enemy. Lee fights a guy that uses the first 5 breathes of the 7 heavenly breathes(non canon? But I like it, so lets bring it over). Lee could only use the first 3 gates pre timeskip (1st gate- Hidden Lotus, 2nd gate- Rejuvenation, 3rd gate- Red Skin), so he learned another 3 after the timeskip ended(I did this because only learning 1 gate in 2 years was awful). The enemy uses the heavenly breathes to strengthen ninjutsu instead of taijutsu(kinda wanna see what that would look like) to further emphasize that taijutsu can be equal to ninjutsu as long as one trains hard enough. Lee uses the 4th gate to activate the Reverse Lotus, 5th gate for the green chakra hue, and ends the battle using the Morning Peacock in his 6th gate. The sand Village has trouble protecting its citizens until a recovering Kankoro shows up, controlling his puppets to play support at a safe distance. I'm gonna increase the range of his chakra strings to encompass the whole village. The group attempting to rescue Gaara is intercepted by Itachi and Kisame(the real ones), sent by Pain to help Deidara and Sasori, as all Akatsuki members are weakened after siphoning Gaara's chakra. Kakashi and Guy stay back to stall these two. Kakashi notices that when chakra goes into one of Itachi's eyes, the Tsukiyomi is activated. Kakashi resist this now that he is using the Mangekyo as well. Kakashi also notices that the Amaterasu is activated when chakra goes into Itachi's other eye, he counters this with Kamui. By the end of their fight, Itachi's chakra turns red as he prepares to use his Susano'o, but leaves when he hears that Sasori died. Guy immediately goes 6th gate, showing us what Lee would look like if he maximized his potential. Kisame fights with Samehada fully awakened. The fight ends when Kisame begins to transform, and we see Guy call out the 7th Gate, but neither happens as news of Sasori's death reaches them. Sakura and Chiyo vs Sasori is great. No changes needed. Naruto fights Deidara with... Tenten?! Yes. Her throwing weapons would be a great counter to Deidara's bombs. Im also going to give her a great sword with seals at the bottom that allows it to fly(in principle, it works like Gaara's magnet release that allows him to fly in much the same way), because im drawing a comparsion between Tenten and famouse martial artist in chinese novels that travel on flying swords. Her greatsword also has a seal on the bottom of its pommel that shoots flames so that she can gain momentum. Naruto follows the two from below, hopping from one tree to another. When Tenten pins Deidara down from time to time, Naruto uses the 9 Tails chakra(he can control up to three tails) for a massive leap to deal massive damage via the Rasengan Series. This includes: The Rasengan(doesnt need clones), the Giant Rasengan(needs 1 clone for more power), the Mini Rasengan(acts as an armor piercer(needs 1 clone for control)), and the Rasenshuriken(needs 2 clones to make). Deidara escapes by substituting himself with a clay clone that takes the full force of the Rasenshuriken. 2. Orochimaru Hideout arc- plays the same, but the fight against Sasuke is more inline with the storm 2 game since im pushing for a more competent Naruto and Sakura. 3. Immortal Duo arc- Plays out the same without Naruto showing up to help. Instead, it cuts between the action, and Naruto training to upgrade his Rasenshuriken, finally perfecting the jutsu the 4th Hokage made to counter(what we will know later to be) the Kirin. Choji can use all of his abilities without the Akamichi clan pills(except his butterfly wing mode that doesnt make an appearance here). Ino can form a chakra construct of herself during the mind transfer jutsu that heals others through contact(taking a page from Shinobi Strikers). Ino's base abilities are support based, so im making her a purely long range support type character. Kakashi kills Kakazu in the end with Kamui. 4. Im taking the liberty of renaming the "Search for Itachi" arc into the "Akatsuki Search and Destroy" arc. This will have Sasuke forming team Hebi and killing Deidara, while the new team 7 pairs up with team 8 to destroy a Mercenary hideout while fighting Obito. The two teams fights a giant group of Mercenaries, revealing new abilities. Shino fights with two types of bugs, the first are his usual while the second attaches to his body, making a sturdy rhinoceros beetle exoskeleton with fly wings made out of chakra. Hinata can use the 64 palms, palm guard(making it canon) instead of rotation, and air palm. Kiba can fuse with Akamaru to make a giant two-headed wolf(Im making it so that he could only make a giant wolf with one head pre-timeskip). The fight is going well until Obito and Zetsu show up(fresh after Deidara's death). His intangibility is a bitch, but team 8 was able to find a work around this. Shino would spread his bugs over a wide range, making Obito disappear into his Kamui dimension, Hinata would immediately find his location when he reappears using her Byakugan, and Kiba would hit him with a fang over fang by his two headed wolf form before Obito could gain his bearings. This single attack would cause him to retreat and end the mission. The arc would end with Sasuke vs Itachi and Jiraiya vs Pain. 5. The Pain arc would mostly play the same. ALL of the Konoha 12 that are in the village needs to fight at least 1 of the path of pain. Naruto's new Rasenshuriken that can be thrown can be done in base with 2 clones, but by himself in Sage mode. But the biggest change would be Hinata. When she attempts to save Naruto, she unlocks the Tenseigan, BUT IM GOING TO BE REVAMPING THIS EYE COMPLETELY(I've always hated its abilities)! As we know, the base sharingan has 3 abilities(time perception, copying abilities, and casting genjustu), while the Mangekyo adds another 3(right eye ability, left eye ability, Susano'o), and the Rinnegan switches out the Sharingan's six abilities for a new six(im not counting Izanami/Izanagi or the seventh path). The Byakugan has 3 abilities(360 vision, x-ray vision, and kaleidoscope vision), so the Tenseigan will add another 3: Night vision, Heat vision, and purple chakra(Hamura's chakra). Hinata does a better job because of this, but still gets blasted. Pain remarks that the Rinnegan and Tenseigan are the Six Paths version of the Sharingan and Byakugan(the Sharingan is more suited for combat while the Byakugan is more suited for scouting with combat aspects), and the fights carries on as normal. 6. Kage Summit- Mostly remains the same, but Sasuke takes out Danzo without throwing Karin aside(he still loses his mind though). I made this change so that Sakura, Kiba, Lee, and Sai could fight Karin, Jugo, Sasuke, and Suigetsu. The fight ends when Obito saves Sasuke and the team who are tired from their fights at the Summit when they are about to lose(Naruto and Kakashi can still pop up in the end for a team 7 reunion when Obito attacks Sakura who didnt notice him appear before the retreat, but that's only if you care for that sort of thing). 7. War arc. Cut down on the flash backs and it fixes half of the issues. Allow Kaguya to appear AFTER team 7 takes down Madara and the other half is fixed(she appears when Madara loses control of the 10 Tailes after his defeat). I personally, would take away Kakashi's DMS, and instead have all of Konoha 12 appear to fight Kaguya(still 12 because Sai is replacing Neji who died protecting Naruto, and not Hinata). The rest of the cast gets a new ability(which we see them use during the war) to be on par with Sakura and not slow Naruto and Sasuke down. Shino fuses his two bug types with the poison bugs Torune had(he took them) into a giant fly exoskeleton he wears called Beelzebub. Hinata fuses her purple chakra with the twin lion fist. Akamaru had a pup before the war arc started, and together with Kiba, the three transorm into a giant three headed dog named Cerberus(one spits flames, another air, and the final lightning to release giant pillars of fire). Lee gains the 7th Gate. Tenten uses and keeps the Sage's divine tools. Sai can make an army of ink animals. Shikamaru contorts his shadow into a giant pool of darkness that shoots shadow tendrils and spikes. Choji can use his giant butterfly wing state. And Ino can make 12 chakra avatars of herself during her mind transfer jutsu to heal allies, take over multiple enemy bodies, or a mixture of both. Having the Konoha 12 take part in the final battle instead of just team 7 would do wonders in closing them off. The final fight, of course, would still be just between Naruto and Sasuke.
Personally, as someone who tried out Naruto later on in life, I’d say it’s more over than underrated. Don’t get me wrong, the series has its fair share of standout moments but equally as many frustrating and inconsistent moments.
I have the oppsite view i watched it last year, and i loved, its themes and parallels and meaning are better than any manga ive read, and i think its one of the more consistent big shows, bleach and one piece have way more bad arc compared to naruto
I figured the votes were botted. Don't get it twisted: Sakura has her pros but can you really tell me with a straight face that you would rather vote for Sakura than people like Obito, Rock Lee, and a dozen hundred other characters.
To me naruto has essentially a big 3 in terms of female characters for me, that's kushina, tsunade, konan, with honorable mentions to chiyo, temari, and shizune. Anko should've definitely done more in some way shape of form same with most of them aside from like tsunade. Thoughts?. Also I'd just like to say amazing video I'd love for this to be a series or something even just another vid like ut would be great thank you.
Neji downplay is ridiculous. Also the whole naruto proving the cycle of hatred thing wrong might as well be a retcon with how much later it was added to the story. (Not saying it doesn’t make sense, but it was poorly implemented)
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill). BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
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Six slandering Jiraiya. But Jiraiya's story is one with which many men can relate. So many men have died with multiple, serious regrets. It's a moving tale. And the most important part is that he never gave uo, and he instilled valuable lessons that inspired his pupil to save the world.
How can you be a loser, when you only taught winners?
True words of a loser
Also his supposed to be a loser his character was meant to represent a failed Naruto
This is actually a good argument
He can't understand a character arc and what represents, he is only valuing a character for how strong he is and if he won fights i guess
You only lose when you give up
In defence of Guy, it’s his attitude, values and relationships with Kakashi and Lee that makes him so great to me. Moments like him being willing to die alongside Lee if the surgery went wrong, him challenging Kakashi to a race when the village was destroyed, boosting everyones moral and showing how much he cares for Kakashi, as he now thinks they won’t be able to do such things with Kakashi being Hokage, have always stuck out to me. I don’t care how strong he is, but that man does everything for the people he cares about. He’s honest, dependable and hard working and I love him for it
agreed
I really dislike the narrative pushed that someone has to be a complex character in order to be good. That's not true at all someone can be simple and still play a perfect role in the story and just be great. Might Guy is the perfect example of that.
@@Rdc_DomI agree 💯, Might Guy is property rated, he's not overrated imo.
The best character in my opinion
@@iwanttoliveinsoutheastasia2952 he’s definitely the most fun character
One point I think might be relevant is Kishimoto was willing to change aspects of the story that he planned, due to the fan response when it was out weekly. This could be why so much of Naruto feels messy
If this is true than it goes to show kishimoto had no clue what he was doing with the series and just kinda got lucky with all his brilliant assistant that made the series what it is today. Like bro look at samurai 8 that manga didn't even last for more than a year. Kishimoto is a fraud cause if you gave oda or kubo a chance to write another manga series. I'm sure they would do so and not get cancelled after the 9th chapter. 😂😂😂😂😂 Kishimoto didn't write Naruto his assintans did.
@@logicandemma8474You are just hating. I see this assistant stuff so much without people knowing anything. Asssistant don't have any control over story. Their job is just to help draw thats it. I'm pretty sure sumarai 8 is more than nine chapters. And it get cancelled because he didn't draw it himself and sci fi is just a really underrated gnere. There isn't much sci fi shonen that is famous. And also there is a lot of kishimoto haters like you. Just look at the recent boruto chapters. It is much better than when kodachi is making the story.
@@logicandemma8474kaguya Clan Ring a Bell ?? That’s kimmimoro’s Clan and he’s literally in the first part of Naruto 😂 the series been written from the beginning your an undercover OP fan
@@logicandemma8474magine thinking assistants write the story 🤡. Kishimoto must’ve stole your candy or something. PS, Samurai 8 had 44 chapters, not 9 dummy
@@TheeHonoredOneI swear he’s a OP fan. They’re the only ones who spout nonsense about Naruto and try to get ppl to hate on it
Now I can, because Lee and the chunin exams were SO popular, understand why one would think that the overarching theme of the series is "Hard work trumping talent" instead of "Overcoming hatred." Unless you believe that there can be multiple overarching themes to a series instead of one, I'll compare and contrast the two with every arc, starting with:
1. The prologue - We see Naruto's position within the village and how he's treated with loathing and isolation. I believe his interaction with Mizuki and Iruka is a perfect example of one overcoming hatred against him to see the good in Naruto, while the other falls deeper into it to the point that they take drastic action(like trying to use and kill him).
Overcoming talent wasn't even a point here, as Naruto learned the shadow clone jutsu fairly quickly(and couldnt learn the clone jutsu because his chakra control was shit due to his large amounts of chakra)
2. The Land of Waves - Haku grew up in a situation similar to Naruto, being hated for the power he possessed. Instead of choosing the path of vengeance, Haku fought because he loved Zabuza, and paired with Zabuza's final actions, Naruto became inspired to model his ninja way after them.
Haku set the precedent of introducing characters that would reflect Naruto himself, not based on talent but instead on how far into hatred they had fallen. There is a reason why Haku, who didn't fall to hatred, was such an inspiration to Naruto.
Now, I'll talk about the theme of overcoming talent. There isn't one. Naruto uses the 9 Tails power(which many of you believe goes against the theme of the Chuunin exams) by this point to take down a genius, not his own power
3. The Chunin Exams- The main theme of the Chunin exams is overcoming talent with hard work, but overcoming hatred is also present here. Gaara is a representation of what Naruto could have been if he fell into the cycle, and Naruto began to fear him after that because of the similarities the two share. I believe that it was this arc that Naruto also expressed the hatred HE used to have for the village in the past(something we later figure out he still has with the waterfall of truth).
On top of that, the MAIN point of this arc was to present a psuedo war between the nations using the Genin to show off their future military power. If this doesnt foster hatred(and a long list of other fucked up shit), I dont know what else does
4. Sand Invasion arc(do people consider this a separate arc to the Chuunin exams?) - Much of the same thing with the parallels between Naruto and Gaara, but with the addition of Naruto using the 9 Tails power to summon Gamabunta to fight Shukaku. I don't believe hard work trumping talent was really reinforced here
5. Tsunade arc - Naruto learned the Rasengan WAY faster than the Toad Sage Jiraiya(could he be a genius?). He worked hard just to fail but succeeded in the end due to thinking outside of the box.
Meanwhile, Orochimaru felt hatred towards the Leaf and wanted to heal his hands to continue his path of destruction, yet was taken down with the help of Tsunade, who overcame her hatred via loss of her loved ones due to Naruto simply being there for her in her time of need
6. Sasuke retrieval arc - Naruto had two main fights, one with Kimimaru and one with Sasuke. For both fights, he used the 9 Tails to try and gain the upper hand(though Lee came in to represent hard work and got bodied until Gaara showed up, so there you go, I guess).
The main point of the arc was a parallel between Naruto and Sasuke, as the latter is falling into hatred for his vengeance
Now, many believe that hatred only rose to prominence as the main theme in Shippuden, spitting on everything that OG Naruto set up regarding overcoming talent with hardwork, but that is not the case.
I could go over the shippuden arcs like I did here with the OG arcs, but seeing as overcoming talent with hard work is RARELY seen there in comparison to hatred, which is much more pronounced at that point, I'm simply going to move on.
The how oh sasuke is so great and talented, and naruto having to work off to do nything. Thts a theme, kishimoto wrote in, since the start.
If he didnt wat to av tht overshadow the loneliness and hate thing, well it did, because he wrote it.
@marocat4749 What? Can you rephrase the response, please? I don't understand.
@@marocat4749The fck are you even saying. It is not sasuke is tanlented and naruto is hard work. It is 'everyone like sasuke and everyone hate naruto'. You are just looking it wrong. And deep down sasuke hate someone a lot and naruto love iruka a lot. It is that simple.
@@thewiseyounglad2699He literally doesn’t know what he’s saying. He didn’t read anything you said and just was gonna repeat the same tired rhetoric that people who don’t understand Naruto repeat.
@@thewiseyounglad2699 I mean, he's right. Naruto is framed as an underdog compared to Sasuke in the beginning and acts very jealous for it. Except we know he can make 1k clones and has in-built plot armor called Kyuubi which he relies on to win practically all of his fights.
Kisame is easily in my top 5 favorite characters in Naruto. I loved every second from him and with him in the Series
Finally someone with taste
dude saaame. his convo with itachi was the best dialogue in the whole series imo
he is too simple
Kisame is sick, just not as interesting as some other characters for me.
@@xxxtimeghostxxxstill better than mid piece and borutrash characters like daemon,Delta ,eida and code
I think Jiraiya was still satisfied at the end. He found the child of prophecy who he believed in and his words were a big part of what convinced Nagato to back down, so he corrected his wrongs and passed his dream onto Naruto, which did a lot. Had that next generation part in that arc as well. Also have some opinions about his combat teaching honestly.
pervy sage gave Naruto his whole ideology which is far more important than any ninjutsu he could have learned so 6 is way too deep in his power scaling bag to make the character and thematic analysis on him.
Yeah I think power scaling wise I could agree he gets majorly overrated but character wise he's perfectly rated if not under rated
Watching the Star Wars prequel made me appreciate Obito’s character a lot. His Character is real similar to Anakin/Darth Vader.
Honestly obito deserves a lot more love, since the writing for him was great. I feel like the community just doesn’t like him deeply due to them not understanding his actual motivations for why he did what he did but I could be wrong.🤔🐱
I think people don’t like him because before he took off the mask he was menacing and mysterious and then we find out his motives and who he is and he suddenly becomes less of a threat in readers minds even tho he’s still the same threat as always.
Yea extremely misunderstood, also his whole thing of being the embodiment of broken heroes is something no talks about
For some reason people think he only did what he did because of Rin but he knew that he would never see her again. He knew that when he used Rinne Rebirth he would die. He didn't want to do what he did so he could see Rin again, he did what he did so no one would ever have to suffer through what he suffered through and hoped that the Infinite Tsukyomi would create a world where she was alive so he could believe she was alive in some way somewhere even though he could never see her again
@@ThorRagnarok-sd7gfwhat??? If anything he’s one of the most nerfed characters in the show
I think Obito would be a much better character if his descent into villainy was more gradual, and not just "oh no, bad stuff happened, I'mma be evil now".
You love to see the Kisame appreciation. My personal favorite character in the series.
The Tailless Tailed Beast is forever a legend
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Kushina (Naruto's mom) is an underrated character. She was only in the story for a little bit but has become memorable for both Naruto and the viewers
Overated, she didnt do shit
Hn stop it
Yeah, she was definitely used effectively for the screen time she had. If only that’s how all the female characters were treated.
1 thing i dont like about kushina is
How she was wanted to be the 1st female hokage
But then she was just reduced to a housewife while minato became the hokage
@@Maybe73to be fair it’s not like she was going to do better than him but she probably would’ve been next if she didn’t die
Obito has been my favorite character since his introduction as tobi. And when they were talking about how nobody liked him it was a really true statement.
I can think of one thing about Shisui that makes him so loved by the fanbase. There are a lot of characters in Naruto that are older brother/friend/mentor figures for another character. And we all know how much we love Itachi. And Shisui was shown as an older brother character for Itachi at the very beginning of Itachi's way as ninja. In a way I think Shisui being there for Itachi, helping him, guiding him kind of the same way Itachi did later on for Sasuke when Sasuke was still a kid, this is what makes Shisui so loved. Some of the love Itachi gets is also transferred to Shisui for that. I agree that he is not that important for story, didn't get any character development or anything. It's more like respect and love for helping Itachi than anything else.
And I disagree about Jiraiya, but that's probably more of my subjective love for him. He is a great character.
True, throughout the time we got to watch him, we got the impression of a kind, caring yet powerful pacifist. He was the template and rolemodel for Itachi as well as his initial motivation. Upon being ridiculously fast and being the owner of one of the coolest sharingan ability, its no wonder in my mind why people like him. He's like Kira from Bluelock, a waste of character design. Gone before we could really see them do anything besides die (metaphorically for Kira) to motivate a more impactful character. Power scalers do be wiling tho. Koto is powerful but not that powerful.
Yeah. I agree that certain characters are gassed up way too much, but Shisui isn’t one of them. No one claims he’s the best character in fiction or anything ridiculous like that, people are just intrigued by what we saw of his character and they like him. Nothing wrong with it. Not all characters have to be important to be cool or interesting.
Naruto has some really high highs and some really low lows. I think this is true for most long running epic fantasy style series in general, even the most famous novels like Wheel of Time, Shannara and Riftwar for example are extremely famous and highly praised even though they get heavily criticized for being filled with terrible slogs and disappointing moments. For me, it's a solid 7/10 series. If I'm throwing in childhood nostalgia, I'd even consider putting it up to maybe a 7.7/10.
Till Pain's arc, Naruto was a masterpiece🙌🏻 imo, like 10/10
Even after that it had great character and story moments
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723I’ll never understand why the 5 Kage summit never gets any credit. It’s genuinely a great arc. And the war is also a great arc
What's with the 0.7?
@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723 Totally agree. I would never call Naruto a bad or mediocre series just because it has some big flaws.
@@userb72 Nope.
As a kid I mainly thought “oh cool fights” But the Naruto series still holds up because it has some great character writing.
I didn't really watched it as a kid but I did finish it around a year ago I enjoyed most of it but I didn't really like the ending not the ending ending but the end of the ninja war but overall it was really good
Care to point out those great character writing moments? I'm not a fan, but now that I'm reading the manga I want to look for moments people really liked
i think they arde really under and misused, why i like the comedy/slice off life manga anime centrig rock lee that makes really good use of the characters, in character.
And tenten gets hr win against temari in a hillrous yet fair way.
@@simpking1457 Itachi’s character arc is probably the most obvious and praised one, we get to see the touching truth about him revealed gradually. There’re other characters such as Pain, Obito and Madara who also have great plots. The big fights are rooted in great clashes of ideologies. Most big antagonists are done really well.
It depends on the characters really. The villains are written pretty well like Orochimaru and the Akatsuki. The Akatsuki are great so many interesting characters but Kishimoto didn't use them to their full potential which is why it's so frustrating when they all get defeated by teenagers
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Horse pegging
Anyone remembers Dosu?
Kishimoto really knows how to destroy great potentials
Dude wasn't even a main antagonist and served the purpose for the arc he was in. EVERY character has potential, but if you cling to them all, then all you get is a cluttered story.
Some characters, especially Dosu, are let go after they serve a purpose.
That was also a weird pick for your argument, but that's just me.
can u give us insight how well would have he fit into the story ??
that guy wasnt even one of the main antagonists lmfao. alright then tell me how he wouldve fit into thge themes of the story and tell me how he wouldve been an impactful villain. I swear u undercover one piece fans are so damn stupid, kishimoto didnt destroy any great potential the vast majority of characters were used as well as they could've
@@thewiseyounglad2699I’m a Naruto goon till the die I day, but some Naruto fans are the exact definition of trying the bite more than they can chew, they want EVERY side character the main character😂
I yearn for the day when Naruto fans learn how to use the term potential properly.
Honestly i think, lee is one of the most overated characters in the fan base, his good, but he got his arc and a complete story, I dont get the idea that he wasnt used enough
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It's because Lee never got a real win and we were always built up to the idea that Lee's win was going to be overcoming Neji and both of them just get left to the way side with no conclusion to that conflict.
@@whiteflame24 what abt when he no diffed naruto and sasuke💀
@@D_Owo Okay but again that's not a real high stakes fight that was just a small plot device fight for Sasuke to get a power up to fight Gaara.
It sucks because like Lee but it's his character which caused one of the worst takes in the Naruto fandom and you can still see it going strong even 10 years after the series has ended.
Tough one. I love Naruto, maybe it’s in my top 20 favorites, and it was one of my first animes/mangas. I think the series still did plenty of things well such as certain themes of empathy and hatred, we still had great characters like Sasuke, Kakashi, Obito, Nagato, Itachi, the Chunin Exams, Sasuke Retrieval, and Pain’s Assault are all top shonen arcs imo, the art is great, but it also did some things wrong, like… aliens? In a series… about ninja? HUH?!
Madara was done dirty at the end, certain characters are just forgotten and completely sidelined, the intriguing power system kinda just throws its rules out by the end, the writing can be inconsistent at times, and a few other things. I think it gets too much hate nowadays for it being popular, but admittedly it does have issues.
Overall, I would say it’s neither of them actually. It’s not highly rated as Berserk or Vagabond or Vinland Saga from what I’ve seen, but it’s also clearly not an underrated series cause it’s still gotten a ton of praise.
EDIT: Oh it was about the characters 😅😂
I’m sorry but Aliens were foreshadowed ever since the show brought up the sage of six path(Hagaromo)
@@JusDarkSage foreshadowing is just one step. You have to also work it into the story neatly, and if you ask me, Kishi kinda did the bare minimum to incorporate the whole idea into his writing.
to be honest the problems u pointed out are super minor though, i hate the whole thing with Naruto being bad when its super consistent
also fam i've seen in that minito video with the other youtuber
@@NinthShinigami sounds like nitpicking because in the war there’s a lot of foreshadowing
Damn, 43 min video kinda crazy. The long forshadowed collab, if you watched six's streams, is finally here. He's hoping its a banger
Y’all bugging with Jaraiya 😂
Shisui’s entire impact is his eye abilities. Like Tenten has more character than him
Nah shisui is just cool, that it, thats why I love him
See I wouldn’t say all of that😭
yea thats cap, he gets way more screen time
Shisui Uchiha is like Raditz from DB, they aren’t good characters, but people like the idea of them.
fam I love shisui just because his cool that it
@@jeffjeff9484 same tbvh, it aint that deep
@@cZk75137 I think the weird thing is just how far it goes with Shisui. Like we're talking about a tertiary character who only is in flashbacks and has like 3 lines in the manga who somehow makes a lot of people's top 10 Naruto characters list.
Like I've never seen a character with so little presence be so beloved.
@@unc54 to me, he's just a cool ass character. I used to play him all the time in Storm Revolutions and i just thought he was cool af, especially his genjutsu and story with Itachi. To me, he's like Kyoshi from Avatar, we barely know anything about her, but people will still go to war over her. Shisui's just cool in concept, and I don't think it's as big a deal as it's being made out to be.
@@unc54alot of yall forget there are sources of information on characters outside the anime and manga
Neji's death is so unnecessary ngl
That was my DOG in part 1 then he did nothing else all series then died to a branch. I’m like bruh idc who threw that shit no body should be dying to sticks at this point cmon jus use rotation or something neji damn 😭
@@austinmc12u mean nobody should be dying to a wood style TEN TAILS ATTACK??!?! It’s literally a wood style ten tails attack that Naruto couldn’t even keep up with. I hate how y’all simplify it to just a branch. Obito literally wiped out a platoon of Anbu with a weaker version of that attack. And Neji LITERALLY tried to use Rotation before saving Naruto and we are shown that there were way too many wood spikes and that his rotation could not keep up. He says this himself. No, rotation would not work. Neji is NOT that strong. Ten tails literally caused a whole cataclysm and flicked away an 8 tails Bijuu bomb but killing NEJI with a wood style attack is just unfathomable.
@@mlh1367 go to sleep bro ur upset 😭
@@austinmc12yes you're delusional should be put rest
@ThorRagnarok-sd7gf I disagree. Obito, like many other antagonists, reflects Naruto's character. Obito specifically wanted to drag Naruto to the same hell he was in...
And Neji's death was the catalyst.
Naruto gets shaken up mentally, and Neji's death after a speech about not letting anyone die shook him too his core.
Obito almost won, Naruto almost lost himself, and Hinata got a defining character moment. The people that said it was used only to ship are the weird ones in my opinion.
I think Kisame's biggest problem is that from the start, he was presented as the Nappa to Itachi's Vegeta and he never really crawled out of that shadow, which, how can you blame him? It's good to see him getting some love though, he's easily one of the best Akatsuki.
Jiraiya is a walking L, but he won the most important thing. The love of Naruto. Everything else is insignificant because of his victory with Naruto. Sure you can say his training wasn't great, but without him, who'd have taught Naruto? Ebisu who didn't notice Orochimaru's seal? Kakashi who neglected him for Sasuke? The other senseis who don't know anything about him? The only one who could teach him was Jiraiya. His teachings were more important than anything else. Without him, Naruto would have gone astray. That's why his one win outweighs all his losses.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. The one thing is Kakashi "neglected" Naruto. That's blatantly untrue. He taught him about chakra natures, the basics in chakra, and how to use his shadow clones effectively when training. Jiraiya literally told Kakashi to focus on Sasuke while he himself took on Naruto.
@@Rdc_Dom That was in Shippuden. I was talking about OG Naruto.
You can be mad that Jiraiya didn't teach Naruto anything during the timeskip (I am), but the truth is that it doesn't really matter, because he did something far more important - he passed his philosophy onto him. Jiraiya played a significant role in making Naruto who he is as a person. His teachings were instrumental in breaking the Curse of Hatred and bringing peace to the ninja world.
tl;dr - RESPECT JIRAIYA DAMMIT
@@phill9780 my point still stands, Kakashi taught Naruto and Sasuke the fundamentals. Then in the chunnin exams Jiraiya tells Kakashi to focus on Sasuke.
fam jariaya is supposed to be a " walking L' its to reflect naruto character if he was a frailer, its called good writing
Who is naruto and why does everyone call him shippuden?
LMAO 🤣
Naruto is Boruto's Grandfather's son
As someone who's like casually into scaling and vs stuff, if you don't like people going crazy over stuff it ain't great to get into, people in this sphere get absolutely insane when you say something that they think is dumb, it can get toxic real fast for like no reason, the stuff is fun though, but it gets crazy with people.
Agree shit be getting wild
I jus dont like when ppl try to scale with real world math. Like obviously the author didn’t consider that math do its fucking bullshit. Whay actually matters is feats, statements, and portrayal
@@turokokokoko9714 fair enough, it can work sometimes I think but I do feel people put a little too much stock in calcs at times. Like when a calc comes out saying that a dragon flapping it's wings in space is multi solar... I kinda wanna question the validity of it lol
obito is definitely underrated and one of my fav characters as well, also ik alot of people in my personal life that also love obito, his more popular than u think, ALSO his theme is underrated being the idea of broken heores
Naruto is heavily underated on the female character cast.
Not only throughout the story you have women on the same level as great men, like Sakura and Chiyo winning against an Akatsuki member, but during the first phase of the fight against Madara, it's two men and two women, the kages, the ones to fight them and lose together.
When people say Naruto doesn't have good female characters, they don't even know what a good female character is. They have a heavy ideological feminist bias, because women in this story kick a$$ and are crucial parts of the story in various moments.
Again, when they say Naruto doesn't have good female characters, they don't mean that, what they're really saying is that they wanted Sakura on the same level as Naruto and Sasuke, or more accurate, they wanted Sakura to be the real protagonist, as most recent American productions have done, where the male protagonist is a nobody compared to the bada$$ female secondary character.
There’s a difference on having women characters and having good written Women characters. A lot of women in naruto are diluted in the background and don’t really have anything special about them. The very few that do are usually outshined by there male counterparts. And tbh this isn’t just an issue with women characters. This is just an issue with side characters in general in naruto. I would definitely agree with you if we were talking about OG naruto but shippuden just forgot about it’s cast in general.
It's not about feminism. Many females are strong in Naruto but their characters are very underdeveloped. But to be fair a lot of the side cast is.
The two people replying are spitting imo
@@Sammy123ABC my dude, there's a good bunch of male characters that are treated the same way, your problem with the so called "good written female characters" is not an issue EXCLUSIVE so female cast, Neji got wasted because of a ship between his cousins and Naruto, Lee got wasted, Shino and so on.
@@Sammy123ABC 2.- How are the two female kages "outshined" by the male kages? Come on, I'll wait for the detailed explanation.
I feel like Sakura gets way too much hate from some people, and not enough from others, instead of there being a middle-ground. Personally, I think that she has some absolutely incredible moments of character writing. Note that I say "moments though". Here are what I think are the moments that made her great, and horrible, arc by arc:
*-The Land of Waves:* I initially found her insanely annoying due to her insane crush, but learned to like her through the shared respect that was gained between her and the bridgebuilder in the first arc.
*-The Chunnin Exams and Sasuke Retrieval Mission:* She had a great scene where she cut off her hair, as a way to cement her progress towards independence. Her fight against Ino, and it's way of conveying their relationship, and how we pettily throw away the things we love due to our immaturity. And how even if they still immaturely crush on Sasuke to a crazy extent, they now realize how it also stupidly blinded them from their own friendship. What broke the nail in the coffin for her, about how immature the reality of her obsession was, ended up being Sasuke leaving and shutting her selfish ideals down
*-Shippuden until post Pain Arc:* She actually truly became a character that was independent and finally understood the value in team 7 as a whole, and not just sasuke. She learned that she had been focusing too hard on what she couldn't do, rather then realizing her strengths in knowledge, medicine, and still a certain level of combat (though i completely disagree with sasori vs Sakura being #1, even if i enjoyed it).
*-The Kage Summit:* Now here is the bad part. Here is where i believe she got screwed over. She told Naruto, that she loved him. Her intention in trying to stop him from worrying about sasuke, was kind, but it was written so horribly, that it made the smartest team member seem like an absolute buffoon. She was made to somehow think that she could not only make Naruto give up on Sasuke, but also that she could kill him, and she went about doing so in the most disrespectful way she could have ever done.
*-4th Ninja War:* She managed to greatly help with the medical efforts, and even strategizing. She even eventually surpassed her own master and became the most proficient medical ninja. I too was sour faced at her remark of catching up to Naruto and Sasuke. Though I very much think that an aspect people fail to remember is that her conversation was all about how the 3 of them had surpassed their "masters", and have each become strong in their own ways. She was not referring to physical strength, but rather self accomplishment. After helping Naruto, Sasuke, and Obito deal with Kaguya, she learned to respect Sasuke as his own person, and accept him as his true self, and not some edgy cute kid.
*-Boruto, and Sasuke Retsuden:* She is back with all the good (plus more) and none of the bad.
*In conclusion* , I find that a lot of her story was actually great, and I loved it. But I absolutely understand the hate she gets for how sometimes Kishimoto just pretends that she never developed, and makes her into that same immature young girl who just can't see past her own selfish points of view. I really hope that it was just a miscommunication, and that Kishimoto just failed to put his thoughts into words correctly. But looking beyond that, I do feel like she is very underrated for the aspects of her that were done right, instead of ignoring the bad, or the good.
She's still trash....get over it.
@@User_95168tell that to his wife
@@oyamampendu9467 Damn!
I think that Sakura would have been a much more favored character if 2 scenes were changed: Her confession to Naruto and her confrontation with Sasuke.
If, instead of confessing, she told Naruto the truth, then the audience might have gotten to see two diametrically opposed viewpoints on the life and judgment of a cherished one turned criminal. It would be interesting to see the two go back and forth on what mattered instead of the bullshit that didn't.
Her confrontation with Sasuke, however, needs a bit of preparation. First, don't have Sakura knock out her teammates. Second, have all of team Taka appear AFTER Danzo is defeated. Third, have the two ragtag teams fight.
If everything goes well, then Sakura will fight Karin to show the audience how their love for Sasuke set them on radically different paths. "Im a ninja before im a girl in love!". Sakura could even unleash her diamond seal to take down Jugo(who beat Kiba) and fight Sasuke(who beat Lee), though Sasuke would need to get amped so that he doesnt get bodied(like the full body Susano'o, which would line up with Madara who could do the same thing with his MS). By the end, we could still have a Team 7 reunion(plus Sai who is fighting Suigetsu somewhere).
Cuz, in my opinion, these two events assassinated her character HORRIBLY!
I love Sakura defenders just for defensive writings like this 😂
My favorite character in Naruto is Kisame because I think he’s the perfect minor villain/ side character.
He’s in Naruto since halfway through part 1, had very fun abilities/skills, fun personality, great design and he has a lot of unexpected depth.
I never seen anyone really talk about it but Kisame is the only akatsuki member who’s actually in the loop. He joined because he believed in Obitos vision and wanted to see it through which started his arc where he went from someone who killed his comrades to someone who kills himself to protect his comrades.
The Chad kisame
Tons of people have had multiple failures in their lifetime. That’s why Jiraya works for those who didn’t get much in life. Some people have that opportunity, while others never got that one opportunity their whole life..
A lot of ppl who don't understand obito, they r not made for anime or they don't have a brain to understand that..But nowadays.. Ppl love obito alot.. Nd those ppl were immature at that time.. Let the time pass by more.. Nd ppl will finally understand the character..
Personaly i think that Narutos a series where its smaller characters are underrated while the bigger ones are overrated.
True but it’s that way mostly because of shippuden. Shippuden basically forgot side characters even existed and served no purpose to the narrative at all. In OG naruto every new “small” character was a breathe a fresh air and fun to see what they can do. Like rock lees first appearance. But that feeling was completely gone in shippuden because it only focused on the big characters.
@@Sammy123ABC Keep spittin bro
This is why I appreciate what one piece and jujutsu kaisen ask about each character: Why are you a ninja/sorcerer?
We never learn the characters reasons in Naruto for taking on a dangerous job. jujutsu kaisen says that taking up someone's dying wish is a bad reason to join, basically. and one piece everyone practically says what's important to them. It's like almost with Bleach where we don't really know why some become soul reapers other than showing potential and get drafted. hell, the filler where kiba's mom scolds him for not being the hero after the pain invasion, made me ask why he's a ninja. why any of them are. how gaara was the one side character to get more development confuses me after watching this. Guy and Lee too, sort of, but least we got their motivations
I disagree alot of the characters were background characters with no real good story, its way naruto is way more consistent in its arcs because it doesnt focus on the bad characters. Like rock lee who is extremely overrated, he got a complete story/ arc and was done, yet people wanted him back for no reason, but just that they liked him
@@cohenvale6342 I do get where your coming from but to simply answer your question I would say being a ninja in Naruto is just a way of life honestly, literally the whole world is run by ninjas and such and while there are other jobs kids literally get brought up to be ninjas from extremely young ages, that combined with family expectations and what not I imagine its just natural for someone like Kiba. In Bleach as well its literally unless your a noble if you dont wanna live in the towns that are mostly slums and or boring af places with nothing to do besides your job and hang out with your family and friends. Being a soul reaper also gives you prestige and from the little hints we are given doesn't pay terribly.
Naruto will forever be my favorite anime manga of all time I think it’s fairly rated for all the praise but underrated by its characters and themes
Wanted to see Konan on here
Your insights are spot on. Keep working hard.
never thought i would watch another naruto content at this time, after so long
"Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to. "Overcoming Hatred(something the ninja world fosters)" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent. And if you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), I don't know what to tell you.
It's funny because the chunin exam ended up preaching "talent trumps hard work". The conclusion of every fight (Except naruto's fights and naruto vs neji is debatable) ended with geniuses beating hard workers. Especially egregious is Sasuke. Lee dog walked Sasuke with his weights on but in a matter of days Sasuke gained physical speed and power matching or even surpassing Lee, on top of sharingan and chidori. Lee spent his whole life training constantly to do what Sasuke does effortlessly and it grinds my gears
@@phlpcockrell Exactly one of my problem with the naruto series.
@@lorcejay2596 ur problem with the entire naruto series is that sasuke copied lee?
@@phlpcockrell that's the point, it was supposed to further lee's charater arc
@@D_Owo One of the problems with the series. Obviously one thing can't just ruin my entire experience that would be redundant.
Loved to hear yalls opinions on characters and Six being here was dope. But to me Lee is underrated for what his character had to offer still to me, Itachi perfectly rated to me, Obito is underrated as well, Tsunade is underrated to me too while I think Temari is best girl but she ain't written as great as Tsunade, Neji I'm a fan of for sure while I'm surprised people don't like him as much as I thought wish he did more throughout post ts like Lee and he shouldn't have died to me, Shinsui is overrated no clue why people love him unironically so much, Guy I love him to death perfectly rated to me, Gaara perfectly rated to me too and could go on but way too long of a comment already xD
The fact that someone self deleted over Itachi just makes Kishimoto the goat writer
Bro i was hoping so much of Kisame coming and I agree hes a very good character and his death is one of the best in naruto
Amazing video
It is just like it was. A classic that defined what fans expected. Even on youtube, the debates were crazy back when the war arc was something.
One thing with Orochimaru I've always thought about was, why doesn't he just blitz kakashi and steal his sharingan when he confronts kakshi right after Sasuke's fight in the prelims. Unless you can argue he either A. Doesn't know sharingan eyes work like fuckin light bulbs. Or B. He SOMEHOW knows that kakashis sharingan is actually obitos and that rules it "off limits" for other reasons. It wouldn't be put of character for him to do this in part one either, considering he's about to start konoha crush and engage hiruzen, where the sharingan boost would have helped him dramatically. Also what of orochimaru pulled up to the 5 kage summit instead of sasuke? And if he had the sharingan he could've taken from sasuke would that change the what if of orochimaru going to 5 kage summit?
One question is why the hell he still alive till this days? Him and kabuto deserve to get murk.
Modrara,s death is misunderstood. It’s an Icarus situation he flew too close to the sun he tried to become a god and fails this is shown constantly with him being unable to get rid of his basic human nature, that being his love for battle and him nearly being killed by Might guy. for all his boasting. He was just a man and he got killed by his hubris by thinking that he had created something of his well. Mikeyuubi did a great video on this if you want more of an explanation
Naruto (P1/anime): Underrated.
Naruto (P2/Shippuden anime): lowkey overrated.
Fax. And it isn’t lowkey, shippuden is the most overrated anime I’ve ever seen in my life. I can’t believe it’s ranked higher than OG.
Naruto was destined to break the cycle of hatred as the child of prophecy. So Neji was right, just not in the way he thought he was. I don’t think people are necessarily praising Neji by saying “Neji was right.” I think they’re suggesting that it was bad/lazy writing.
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"the fated losers of Naruto" - is the best video i saw about the idea of Naruto and its detailed explanation
I think its underrated in some aspect and over rated in others, the themes, parallels are super underrated, and the top 10 characters in naruto, i think is the best top 10 in any other anime
I love Naruto. It was literally what got me into anime and Manga. Seeing the chunin exams arc when I was only 4 years old, it has just as much nostalgia for me as YuGiOh does.
It's easily in my top 10 but not in my top 3 or even top 5. I don't think it's overrated or underrated. It's exactly where it needs to be for the majority of the community, it's just up to the individual where it is for themselves. Most One Piece fans think it's dogwater Trash and most diehard Naruto fans think it's the best work of art that's ever touched paper.
But most people recognize it as great. Part of the big 3. Clown on it a little for the 48% filler but still recognize that it deserved the majority of the praise it gets.
It definitely deserves criticism for the bad ending with Kaguya, Kishitmotos inability to write compelling female characters, how he made a cast too big for himself to ever write all of them to the potential they initially had (rock Lee especially) and how everything Boiled down to everything being focused around the Uchiha.
There's a lot more problems I could mention but after everything's set and done, most people overlook the problems for what the story does right. Even though it's only #7 in my top 10, I still think that Naruto has some of the best villains of any series I've ever read or watched. Pain, Zabuza, Danzo, Madara, Obito are all compelling characters that acted in an amazing way or were portrayed in the story at a perfect time in the other characters lives
I don’t think it’s overrated, but as a fan of the series for almost 20 years I have a lot of bias. The storytelling, characters, lore are just top tier and have all aged like the finest of wines. All of this is especially apparent in the manga
I feel that so much too. Especially for the OG naruto. Ik I have a lot of bias but deep down I have to admit what it lacks in. Side characters are basically non existent and serve no purpose to the narrative in shippuden. Villains are pretty great but under utilized especially in the war arc. Madara got hoed by the writer more than any other anime villain ever. Lore wasn’t good at all and was basically non existent for 95% of the show. The storytelling is mediocre in OG naruto and horrible in shippuden. I love naruto and will forever love it and I’ll always have fun watching it but it hurts me to say that it’s very overrated. There’s probably so much more in glossing over but again I’m bias on a lot of things that I probably wouldn’t notice because of my love for the series.
honestly im new to naruto and I still loved it and its in my top 5, i think the reason why people have such emotional connection in its themes and parallels, it’s the best I’ve seen in any manga or anime easily
Naruto has trash plot ngl but at least it’s better then baruto
@@jeffjeff9484 yeah that and nostalgia. The themes are pretty common in anime and you’ll see that more and more if you continue to watch anime. And Naruto does a good job at some of its themes but it doesn’t execute them well. It has a lot of hypocrisies and plot holes that you don’t really notice at first. They’re other anime out there that effortlessly execute Narutos main theme (the cycle of hatred) and do it infinitely better in a way shorter amount of time. Like Vinland saga, attack on titan and many more. And that’s why naruto is very overrated even tho I love it gotta be honest and say what it is.
@@Sammy123ABC I think there common but not as well as Naruto does it, the parallels too and the meaning, speech’s, Naruto theme and parallels the best of out any manga
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Im so sorry that was the coolest fight scene in the WHOLE SHOW!!!
I was wondering have you read or are you caught up with Tomodachi game if so will you make a video on it bcus the most recent chapters have been insane
I would say rock Lee’s character story about hard work, just would not work during shippuden. It worked in part 1 because Rock Lee was around young kids around his age that did not know any better. A group like the Akatsuki would not care at all what rock lee wants to prove. They don’t have time to acknowledge anything, but their own ideologies.
I agree that Sasuke is the best character. Extremely downplayed in the manga community, often for really petty reasons, without bothering to understand what the character is about. It's impressive how realistic he acts as a survivor of massacre and torture, how wracked he is by the survivor's guilt that leads him on the path on self-destruction. How he both adores and despises his tormentor brother, how he strikes back against those who wish to control his choices (from team 7 to Orochimaru, Itachi and Obito). How he desperately rages against the society that ruined his clan.
My only major problem is that he doesn't really fit in the shonen genre, at least not one as idealistic as Naruto, where talk no jutsu solves all problems. He could've easily been a great seinan protagonist with some tweaks here and there, especially the ending.
Naruto has to beat a villains ass just for them to listen to him talk in the first place, and even then he only talks to people that can be reasoned with.
The whole point of "talk no jutsu" is that Naruto is trying to rise above hatred by understanding his opponent and hopefully dragging them out of the mental mess they are in by getting them to change their views.
For the themes of the series, these fit. And every one of them are pretty philosophical to boot. Naruto is more of a story about "one"s mentality", and talking gets to the core of ir.
Sasuke as a seinin protag would be ass Narutos relationship with sasuke is toxic and shit how you say he is like a brother when he tried to kill multiple times essentially forgiving sasuke for all his crimes and letting him live with no punishment for what he has done
@@thewiseyounglad2699 I understand the purpose of talk no jutsu, i just don't think it's good. It's neither believable nor compelling. Also gets very repetitive.
@@GUYFROMEldos Naruto is an obsessive stalker piece of trash who selfishly wants Sasuke to live in the village which ruined his life, Sasuke should've killed him in part 1 when he had the chance.
@@marko1263 I disagree. But that is simply a difference in opinion. And that's fine.
23:23 in shisui's defense it was not a popularity poll people just wanted to see more of him
That means he is popular
Bros didn't talk about Kakashi 😭😭💀 but appreciate the obito love though 😀
Let's talk about Lee, though my first post should be enough to know where he stands in relation to both Naruto and the story, so I'll leave it with this: While it is true that Naruto never had to train as hard as Lee PHYSICALLY, that was never the point(once again, he has the 9 Tails to make things easier on that front). While Lee has to struggle with the physical, Naruto has to struggle with the mental aspects of his character, to not fall into the cycle that is the main theme of the show, hatred(of course there will be physical aspects, its shounen. But a story following the mental aspects of a character can be just as inspiring).
Honestly, with how Lee(Hardwork) lost his fight against Gaara(Talent), it seems to me that the theme of the chunin exams isnt "Hard work trumps talent", but instead can be interpreted as "Hardwork(Lee) MAY be able to trump talent(Gaara), but talented hardworkers(Naruto) trumps all." A very real indication of the real world.
I watched it last year, and i loved, its themes and parallels and meaning are better than any manga ive read, and I think its one of the more consistent big shows, bleach and one piece have way more bad arc compared to naruto
While I respectfully disagree with your last sentence personally, the series is still filled with many good things about it. It’s really only some issues that arise here and there. But may I ask since you said “any manga I’ve read,” mind listing a few?
@@NinthShinigami so I am talking about the themes and parallels, manages that come to mind are vagabond(my #1), aot(my #2), one piece, vagabond, hxh
@@jeffjeff9484 dang. Naruto beat Vagabond and One Piece for you? Disagree slightly but ey I respect 👍 for me, I think the parallels of Musashi and Matahachi, Musashi and Kojiro, and Musashi with the older “invincible” swordsmen are stronger and better explored by Inoue. But if that’s how you feel like I said I respect 🤝
@@NinthShinigami just saying vagabond is my fav, but Naruto has it every where for example jariyia is on people missed his so much like Naruto expect his a Naruto that failed, with the whole orchimaru thing, wanting to be hokage, not saving anyone, his personality and so on
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Good to be back with more naruto context with some back up haha
Can you make a video about the frauds of Naruto it just sounds interesting
This video was actually so enjoyable to watch, pretty interesting concept and it would be cool to make a series out of it with different anime/manga and other creators as guests that are related to that series (Such as Bleach with Clyde and Chuck).
Overrated as hell. I think whatever you put on that channel on that timeslot will become someones childhood.
The entire theme of the show is not to judge a book by its cover and you need to work hard and you can make your own destiny.
Meanwhile the main character is literal magic wizard ninja royalty who has received every blessing imaginable from the Gods.
In a good story, that guy would be the villain.
You brought it up - if thats not the theme than what is the major themes? From the episodes ive seen they clearly have a formula and it hits those three themes relentlessly.
So you tell me, what are those themes?
I love hearing people talk about fiction passionately and its pretty clear you know more about it and care more about it than I do. So if I go back and watch any of this series again what should I be looking out for?
The only other theme i could possibly imagine is, "we really want to sell children merchandise."
LMAO hard work was never Naruto's theme so him being a wizard doesn't matter. You guys didn't read the series or are salty One Piece fans😂that was Rock Lee's theme not Naruto's. And Narut o is still far more iconic than One Piece
Obito as Madara was my favorite charater until the real Madara showed up. Even after Obito's identity was revealed he was still my second favorite character and is still even to this day.
Itachi is the worst character, Jiraiya is the best character, Madara is overrated and Tobirama is underrated
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THANK YOU!!!!!
She's such a good character and no one talks about it!!!!
In my opinion Sasuke is both overhated and overated, Part 1 sasuke was a masterpiece and all the haters completely misunderstand his character, Hebi sasuke the timeskip sasuke up till itachi fight is also a perfect successor to part 1 sasuke, everything about him was beautiful from character design, combat style, writing and especially the dull and cold Demeanor because it showed how much the isolation with orochimaru and kabuto changed him yet he still kept his morals, but as soon as the convoluted itachi retcon backstory took place sasukes character writing and design was tarnished and only went downhill from there, to me Part 1 to Hebi sasuke is the best character in the series but i think the change in sasukes writing up till the end of Shippuden and potentially boruto make his character drop all the way to B+, that's how bad the changes are imo, his character never made sense and was only a worse version of the previously shown sasuke in the series, he had some funny moments like walking on the limping danzo or the laugh but that's pretty much it, after the war ends and sasukes on his shadow hokage journey that version of sasuke has some of the qualities of hebi sasuke from the early Shippuden series and it's no coicidence that hes super likable, but yes because of how good and missunderstood part 1 sasuke is with the emo hate and edgylord term spammers, i say hes overhated, but with the other side that people say sasuke was perfect all the way through naruto and actually love taka and war arc sasuke or boruto I see him as super overated, sasukw had a peak in the end of the itachi fight and to me only dropped from there and kinda climbed slightly back up with the shadow hokage arc but then dropped down in boruto, and I won't rant on each scenario and example on bad writing moments from Sasuke after the truth about itachi because i have in other videos, but yea that's all I'll say on sasukes character, but this brings up itachi, the most overated character in anime, I've seen some people cry when itachi died in the sasuke fight and that was before the retcon backstory so i find it odd that people sympathize with a pyschopath, he was a decent antagonist in part 1 and set up sasukes motivation and amazing character, was fine in early Shippuden but the retcon backstory makes itachis character look really stupid and goes against his big brain worship that the characters have for him and also take away the weight of his fight vs sasuke, the whole idea that he planned it out is stupid I do still think sasuke suprised him alot but the idea that itachi held back is dumb, itachi also torturing a 7year old sasuke was clear pyschopath behavior and made 0 sense to be retconned, killing innocent kids and moms even sasukes mom but leaving Sasuke Alive made no sense, if u wanna keep you sasuke alive keep the mom alive to, why kill the mom, also why not tell sasuke the truth and have sasuke and his mom live in a different village, also why kill the clan that was only discriminated because obito used the ninetails on the leaf, it just made itachis character look stupid especially with the fact danzo swiped shisuis eye and that whole thing made shisui look pathetic, even tho itachi worshipping the leaf was horrible character writing the fact that after he did it and what he did to sasuke and then instead of kishimoto keeping the pyschopath storyline retcon it and made itachi this genuinely stupid character who thought it was a good idea to almost kill sasuke twice and then rig the fight against him so he can be a "hero" made 0 sense, and what makes it worse is somehow the naruto fanbase actually worships this cringy retconned version of the character, the whole war arc moment of itachi apologizing was him apolozing for his horrible writing it was in our face but somehow the community cries at that moment, again even if we ignore taka sasukes horrible writing and itachis, why would sasukw wanna destroy the leaf thaf itachi killed the clan for and on top of that not target the elders and I wont even talk about sasukes cheesy dialogue in the war arc, the hokage bit or sasukes revolution bs, I wouldn't mind the horrible retcon if it just ruined itachi but it had to ruin sasuke
The alatski as a whole are overated each of them, hidan is probably universally disliked hes a trash character so i won't talk about him, kakazu had such interesting elements about him but died to the worst team and also kakashi in a 2v1, like what was that fight it made kakazu look like shlt, how u gonna take that long in the fight and then have narutos come out of nowhere an hour later with a 10hr charge jutsu and thats how he dies, zetsu is trash tbh, kisame was a decent character but wasn't utilized well, diedara died by basically being a crybaby the fact he killed himself even tho sasuke just wanted itachi made no sense, Deidara hates itachi yet wasn't telling sasuke where he was? I love the Deidara fight because i love sasuke and that was sasukes best fight but that fight also made Deidara look like an idiot, konan waa fodder for her to not destory the rinnegan and get no diffed by jiraya in his encounter, like her whole character was being nagatos puppet, pretty lame if u ask me, pain himself had incredible feats and amazing logic but for him to just regress and listen to narutos cheesy "talk no jutsu" and also revive the people he killed was horrible writing, not only did they miss the opportunity to make naruto an anti hero and have an arc dedicated to his own dark path similar to sasuke, they revived the people that added tension to the arc to begin with, kakashis death was iconic and for him to just be revived made his death pointless and his fight vs pain borderline unrewatchable, but yea pains another overated character for a villian to reset what he did makes his impact almost meaningless, itachi i already explained why hes the most overrated character in anime, obito to me was more interesting as masked tobi always thought his unmasked look was super ugly, his writing was decent i guess, but again his unmasked design looked way too ugly and always distracted me and i didn't like his personality especially paried up with madara, i always didn't like him after the reveal personally and hes def not the best villian especially with the fact hes the antagonist of the worst arc in the series, his fight vs kakashi is supremely overated, Sakura gets the hate she deserves if not more, somehow just somehow she has a mob of blind defenders which is insane but i wont talk about her too much as shes universally hated, if theres any akatski member I didn't say i probably dont like them anyway, as for naruto I mentioned above how he didn't have a dark path arc and i always hated that, his character in part 1 naruto was amazing and for him to not come to terms with the fact he lost sasuke in shippuden pissed me off, instead of naruto accepting sasuke is gone he still stuck up on sasuke and ruins his development, his 3 year timeskip he basically learned nothing, his character design is worse imo other than the sage mode outfit, again narutos character coulda been so much better, with the evil path idea, better training and better writing, hes trash in shippuden and the only highlight is the amazing 4tails and up imo, kuruma carries naruto is basically what im saying in shippuden , while in part 1 i liked narutos character and kuruma was a cool powerup, kakashis character now, how does his guy have 1000 jutsu but only have 4, how does he have a doujin addiction but still stays single, why does he neglect sasuke so much but help shikamaru with revenge, why does he let Naruto and sasuke live alone in part 1 even tho hes aware of it, why does he teach sakura nothing, he was a horrible sensei, hes got some positives to him and i love his character but as a sensei he cringes me alot, to me gaaras character design was much better in part 1 and his writing too, his character is decent in shippuden but i hate his design, but overall hes solid, again i always prefered sasuke to have different writing after tobi told the truth and really wished at thag point he talked with Gaara as gaara cameover the hatred but it is what it is, the kage summit confrontation was super cringe and was not as good as the chunin exams one, rock lee was Amazing in part 1 but they shoulda kept him crippled after the kimmimaru fight amd that explains his characters lack of screentime in shippuden, they also shoulda had neji and choji and kibas character die in the sound 4 fights, whats the point of letting them all live but ignoring them on Shippuden, and how does each sound 4 get no kill literally unrealistic, i always preffered if Tayuya and sakon escaped, again im not a fan of romance plotlines but if u were gonna introduce an orochimaru hideout red head love interest for sasukw why make karin when it coulda just been tayuya , especially with how shes the one to push sasuke along with sakon to join orochimaru, they also had better powers than jugo and karin, to me karins character either shoulda just stayed as a security guard or not existed, and jugo shoulda been a temporary character as for Suigestsu he's awesome and should have had more interesting writing, i always liked his powers and personality, orochimaru was peak in part 1 and for him to just get absorbed and then tell itachi his plan to absorb sasuke was super stupid, i love hebi sasuke and his snake powers, but why would orochimaru tell itachi his plans and die after his reveal that was so anticlimactic and annoyed me, also Shippuden although it sucks second half of pain arc and beyond, why not kill off kabuto amd make orochimaru the ultimate villian, kabuto was super cringe and orochimarus character in shippuden was underwhelming, i dont wanna keep ranting its a waste of time but i would give og naruto a 9.5 and Shippuden a 7 at best, Shippuden had some highs but alot of lows, only reason why its a 7 is because again it had some decent highs but also alot of interesting characters and designs but horrible execution, but of course the casuals will say its better than og naruto and worship Shippuden..
I love guy so much
It hurts me seeing him in a wheelchair
I kinda understand why some people wish they never wrote him back to life.
Actually the sakura and sasori fight was my favorite I think it has all of what makes the series great! Weird abilities creepy and cool antagonist, good fight animation not to mention using antidotes mid fight to counteract the poison and the use of seals and tools
i think people just wanted Shisui to have more scenes to his name, which a one shot would've given him
Madara deserved all hype for me. As my favorite character I tend to overhype him but I find it hard to not give him his respect
Ya forsure we all hype up our favorite characters. The only problems are then rude fans in the community lol 😂.
Might guys is compelling to me because he’s always upbeat as a person he’s born with a handicap and you never hear him complain once about his circumstances he just works through it and he even takes on lee which i think is very selfless because he had no reason to or any obligation to look after lee and nurtures his talent even going claiming that’s his nindo and claims to die with lee had his operation failed he’s got plenty of great character moments across the story for example when he begged hiruzen to join the Akatsuki because he was concerned about kakashi s wellbeing but he was told he lacks darkness by Danzo this makes him my favorite character in the series
I like how Six was being funny (sarcastic) when he said, he liked how Madara went out and Mask totally missed the bit.
Great commentary.
Oh my god finally Obito recognition!
32:59 "The romantic interest Sauke who in my opinion is the best character in the entire series", as someone who firmly believes and has collected many material to objectively prove Sasuke is amongst one of the worst, or at least worst handled characters in Naruto, that's a based opinion and I can respect that
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N I finished naruto back in late 2018, early 2019, n I always loved obito as a character , hero and villain , only thing didn’t care for was the same thousand flashbacks bout obito , but besides that as a character that was written , behind madara and for me, Nagato . Obito 3rd best antagonist in the show 🤷🏼♂️. My opinion .
Reread Naruto VERY recently.
Jiraiya >>>>>> Obito and Tsunade
I agree nearly with everything! Obito was basicly, even befor he was known to be obito, always one of my favorite charakters!
Madara is in my opinion a bit boring as a charakter and just "reasonles" toxic
Also, Naruto is on par with any other great young adult story you've seen, from the beginning up until the fight with Pain. The power system, the characters, the pacing, all is top level and it crash like a plane the moment Naruto goes to talk to Pain. That's the exact moment when it, slowly, becomes garbage.
I would argue that it became garbage the second shippuden started and then when the pain arc started it became good again and then at the end of the pain arc it became even more garbage than it was before.
@@Sammy123ABC bro your opions are so dog its crazy, the jariyia arc, the fated battle between brothes, shikamura arcs are all 10/10, also the 5 kage arc and there is still a lot to like about the war
@@jeffjeff9484 Jiraya arc and shikimaru arc are apart of the pain saga. My bad that i said arc. Also the fated battle between brothers is in pain saga too. And all of these were good. But I wouldn’t say 10/10. They had great demonstrations of emotions but the writing for some of it wasn’t 10/10.
@@Sammy123ABC bro your such a hater its crazy that section in the manga is the best written section in all of shenon, the themes, plot twists, villains, character development, and so on, get outta here
@@Sammy123ABC nah, Shippuden has very good plot. I don't see how the start of Shippuden us bad. Care to explain?
But yes, from the moment that stup!d prophecy comes into the story all hell breaks loose.
26:40 completely false. I feel like y’all are out of touch when it comes to guy. The love for his character is definitely justified. Though I feel like people tend to overrate his power sometimes
Have to agree Itachi is so Overrated he’s a great character, but when you think about the fact he killed his people for the sake of a village that hates his people…it makes me EH… lol he’s dope just can’t think too deep on his actions 🤷🏾♂️
thats cause you didnt understand the story
@@elsotanodelhorror810and most Itachi fan boys say that, I but I absolutely understand the story. You have yet to prove I don’t🤷🏾♂️
I’m so glad that you guys talked about Obito tbh
Nah sasuke should've benn there considering how much unwanted hate he gets
1. Yay persona 5 music at the beginning
2. This is like the 66th time this video has been published but let him cook
Sasuke is honestly just a pale shadow of his former self in Boruto and it's pretty sad. He has been transformed into a horrible father with him going off to train the bland main character that is apparently more important than his own fricking daughter. Sasuke was beaten into submission and basically brainwashed, he should not feel comfortable living in Konoha, the place that destroyed everything he loved. Sasuke was supposed to represent a change in the system because he witnessed the darker side. Sarada was reduced to a love interest with her personality now centered entirely surrounding Boruto to the detriment of her own character. Sasuke should have just faked his death using one of the Zetsu clones maybe and lived elsewhere far from the Five Great Nations and the pro-status quo Naruto, who didn't change anything, especially now that everything is crumbling because of the loss of his main source of power and aliens in this Android Saga wannabe sequel.
Sasuke being a deadbeat dad kind of makes sense with his character, but the fact that he treats Boruto like his child more than Sarada does not lmao.
In fact I’d argue his whole relationship with Sakura after the war arc doesn’t make much sense. It’s such a weird relationship, Sasuke treats her like shit for the entirety of Naruto part 1 and 2, literally tries to kill her at one point, then once he’s on good terms with Naruto he apparently likes Sakura now I guess? Then he just knocks her up and leaves her to raise a kid alone, and we are expected to believe they have some kind of special love connection? Lmao
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
In my opinion the problem with Itachi isn’t that he’s over/underrated/a bad character, but he has legions of fans that wank him off and excuse all of his actions despite the fact that he’s legit a psychopath and on the same side as Danzo who everybody can evaluate with less bias as a villain.
Powerscaling I think alive Itachi is underrated. I would actually argue that Sasuke is the most important character of Naruto and by extension Itachi too though since Itachi’s like single handedly responsible for the trajectory of Sasuke in the story.
I'm so sick of Itachi. The amount of endless dick riding is mind numbing.
On the same side as Danzo? You’re buggin, rewatch/reread Naruto
@@dajonbarnes5149I’m buggin” no you need to actually read the manga. Itachi conspired with Danzo and did his dirty work for him, with Danzo even respecting Itachi as a Shinobi. Itachi did not FULLY trust Danzo though but that does not change the fact that he literally was operating not just with Danzo but the leaf elders as a whole and followed their agendas. Did the truth about the Uchiha massacre just fly over your head?
Good take for the most part and if we were put in Itachi’s shoes we most likely wouldn’t make the same choice to destroy our family and clan. However as a fan of Itachi even after acknowledging that, we still love him as a character. As a big brother myself I also admire the willingness to protect his brother although his methods were very toxic and could back fire at all time. However in this situation it worked out and he’s looked at as a genius because it did…. Kinda lol 😂. Sasuke definitely didn’t play the role after his death like Itachi thought so that’s unfortunate. However Sasuke did grow to a power that allowed him to assist in saving the world and continue to help save the world along side Naruto. So ya Itachi in the story played a necessary antagonist with overall good intentions. His, drip, Justus, and moments is also is why he’s wildly loved. Number 2 favorite behind Naruto and I don’t agree Itachi was on the same side as Danzo but their common goals did align unfortunately. Danzo is still trash though and Itachi is loved. It is what it is.
Six and masked have a dynamic like the loud kid and the chill af dude and it balances perfectly
I don’t think Naruto had to be One Piece length to have better side characters, they just needed to have cool character moments sprinkled instead of adding more pointless side characters
The Konoha 12 was PRESENT for every major arc, just not UTILIZED as well as they could have been.
So lets add this single thing before I go into how I would rewrite them:
Kara having the 'Outers' is interesting, so lets do something similar with the Akatsuki and give them the 'Mercenaries'. They wear black cloaks with only a single red cloud on their back.
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1. Kazekage Rescue arc- Team Guy was in the arc but didn't do much. Let's change that.
A portion of The Mercenaries attack the Hidden Sand Village to cover Sasori and Deidara's escape. Neji, Lee, and the rest of the Sand ninja confront them head-on. Temari takes over a commanding position over her fellow ninja to fight this threat, while Neji and Lee take on the two strongest foes in the Mercenaries there(they are both A-rank ninja).
Neji fights a user of the explosion release(I believe that release is canon), pitting his ultimate defense against this guy's ultimate offensive close combat syle. It is later revealed that this guy can cause a delayed explosion to happen to whatever he touched before, giving him the advantage. Things get especially bad when an entire street is primed to blow, but Neji counters with an air palm that dessimates the chakra in the area while simultaneously defeating his enemy.
Lee fights a guy that uses the first 5 breathes of the 7 heavenly breathes(non canon? But I like it, so lets bring it over). Lee could only use the first 3 gates pre timeskip (1st gate- Hidden Lotus, 2nd gate- Rejuvenation, 3rd gate- Red Skin), so he learned another 3 after the timeskip ended(I did this because only learning 1 gate in 2 years was awful). The enemy uses the heavenly breathes to strengthen ninjutsu instead of taijutsu(kinda wanna see what that would look like) to further emphasize that taijutsu can be equal to ninjutsu as long as one trains hard enough. Lee uses the 4th gate to activate the Reverse Lotus, 5th gate for the green chakra hue, and ends the battle using the Morning Peacock in his 6th gate.
The sand Village has trouble protecting its citizens until a recovering Kankoro shows up, controlling his puppets to play support at a safe distance. I'm gonna increase the range of his chakra strings to encompass the whole village.
The group attempting to rescue Gaara is intercepted by Itachi and Kisame(the real ones), sent by Pain to help Deidara and Sasori, as all Akatsuki members are weakened after siphoning Gaara's chakra. Kakashi and Guy stay back to stall these two.
Kakashi notices that when chakra goes into one of Itachi's eyes, the Tsukiyomi is activated. Kakashi resist this now that he is using the Mangekyo as well. Kakashi also notices that the Amaterasu is activated when chakra goes into Itachi's other eye, he counters this with Kamui. By the end of their fight, Itachi's chakra turns red as he prepares to use his Susano'o, but leaves when he hears that Sasori died.
Guy immediately goes 6th gate, showing us what Lee would look like if he maximized his potential. Kisame fights with Samehada fully awakened. The fight ends when Kisame begins to transform, and we see Guy call out the 7th Gate, but neither happens as news of Sasori's death reaches them.
Sakura and Chiyo vs Sasori is great. No changes needed.
Naruto fights Deidara with... Tenten?! Yes. Her throwing weapons would be a great counter to Deidara's bombs. Im also going to give her a great sword with seals at the bottom that allows it to fly(in principle, it works like Gaara's magnet release that allows him to fly in much the same way), because im drawing a comparsion between Tenten and famouse martial artist in chinese novels that travel on flying swords. Her greatsword also has a seal on the bottom of its pommel that shoots flames so that she can gain momentum. Naruto follows the two from below, hopping from one tree to another. When Tenten pins Deidara down from time to time, Naruto uses the 9 Tails chakra(he can control up to three tails) for a massive leap to deal massive damage via the Rasengan Series. This includes: The Rasengan(doesnt need clones), the Giant Rasengan(needs 1 clone for more power), the Mini Rasengan(acts as an armor piercer(needs 1 clone for control)), and the Rasenshuriken(needs 2 clones to make). Deidara escapes by substituting himself with a clay clone that takes the full force of the Rasenshuriken.
2. Orochimaru Hideout arc- plays the same, but the fight against Sasuke is more inline with the storm 2 game since im pushing for a more competent Naruto and Sakura.
3. Immortal Duo arc- Plays out the same without Naruto showing up to help. Instead, it cuts between the action, and Naruto training to upgrade his Rasenshuriken, finally perfecting the jutsu the 4th Hokage made to counter(what we will know later to be) the Kirin. Choji can use all of his abilities without the Akamichi clan pills(except his butterfly wing mode that doesnt make an appearance here). Ino can form a chakra construct of herself during the mind transfer jutsu that heals others through contact(taking a page from Shinobi Strikers). Ino's base abilities are support based, so im making her a purely long range support type character. Kakashi kills Kakazu in the end with Kamui.
4. Im taking the liberty of renaming the "Search for Itachi" arc into the "Akatsuki Search and Destroy" arc. This will have Sasuke forming team Hebi and killing Deidara, while the new team 7 pairs up with team 8 to destroy a Mercenary hideout while fighting Obito.
The two teams fights a giant group of Mercenaries, revealing new abilities. Shino fights with two types of bugs, the first are his usual while the second attaches to his body, making a sturdy rhinoceros beetle exoskeleton with fly wings made out of chakra. Hinata can use the 64 palms, palm guard(making it canon) instead of rotation, and air palm. Kiba can fuse with Akamaru to make a giant two-headed wolf(Im making it so that he could only make a giant wolf with one head pre-timeskip). The fight is going well until Obito and Zetsu show up(fresh after Deidara's death).
His intangibility is a bitch, but team 8 was able to find a work around this. Shino would spread his bugs over a wide range, making Obito disappear into his Kamui dimension, Hinata would immediately find his location when he reappears using her Byakugan, and Kiba would hit him with a fang over fang by his two headed wolf form before Obito could gain his bearings. This single attack would cause him to retreat and end the mission.
The arc would end with Sasuke vs Itachi and Jiraiya vs Pain.
5. The Pain arc would mostly play the same.
ALL of the Konoha 12 that are in the village needs to fight at least 1 of the path of pain. Naruto's new Rasenshuriken that can be thrown can be done in base with 2 clones, but by himself in Sage mode. But the biggest change would be Hinata. When she attempts to save Naruto, she unlocks the Tenseigan, BUT IM GOING TO BE REVAMPING THIS EYE COMPLETELY(I've always hated its abilities)!
As we know, the base sharingan has 3 abilities(time perception, copying abilities, and casting genjustu), while the Mangekyo adds another 3(right eye ability, left eye ability, Susano'o), and the Rinnegan switches out the Sharingan's six abilities for a new six(im not counting Izanami/Izanagi or the seventh path). The Byakugan has 3 abilities(360 vision, x-ray vision, and kaleidoscope vision), so the Tenseigan will add another 3: Night vision, Heat vision, and purple chakra(Hamura's chakra).
Hinata does a better job because of this, but still gets blasted. Pain remarks that the Rinnegan and Tenseigan are the Six Paths version of the Sharingan and Byakugan(the Sharingan is more suited for combat while the Byakugan is more suited for scouting with combat aspects), and the fights carries on as normal.
6. Kage Summit- Mostly remains the same, but Sasuke takes out Danzo without throwing Karin aside(he still loses his mind though). I made this change so that Sakura, Kiba, Lee, and Sai could fight Karin, Jugo, Sasuke, and Suigetsu. The fight ends when Obito saves Sasuke and the team who are tired from their fights at the Summit when they are about to lose(Naruto and Kakashi can still pop up in the end for a team 7 reunion when Obito attacks Sakura who didnt notice him appear before the retreat, but that's only if you care for that sort of thing).
7. War arc. Cut down on the flash backs and it fixes half of the issues. Allow Kaguya to appear AFTER team 7 takes down Madara and the other half is fixed(she appears when Madara loses control of the 10 Tailes after his defeat).
I personally, would take away Kakashi's DMS, and instead have all of Konoha 12 appear to fight Kaguya(still 12 because Sai is replacing Neji who died protecting Naruto, and not Hinata).
The rest of the cast gets a new ability(which we see them use during the war) to be on par with Sakura and not slow Naruto and Sasuke down.
Shino fuses his two bug types with the poison bugs Torune had(he took them) into a giant fly exoskeleton he wears called Beelzebub. Hinata fuses her purple chakra with the twin lion fist. Akamaru had a pup before the war arc started, and together with Kiba, the three transorm into a giant three headed dog named Cerberus(one spits flames, another air, and the final lightning to release giant pillars of fire).
Lee gains the 7th Gate. Tenten uses and keeps the Sage's divine tools. Sai can make an army of ink animals.
Shikamaru contorts his shadow into a giant pool of darkness that shoots shadow tendrils and spikes. Choji can use his giant butterfly wing state. And Ino can make 12 chakra avatars of herself during her mind transfer jutsu to heal allies, take over multiple enemy bodies, or a mixture of both.
Having the Konoha 12 take part in the final battle instead of just team 7 would do wonders in closing them off. The final fight, of course, would still be just between Naruto and Sasuke.
Although Naruto is a deeply flawed series it combines almost everything you'd expect from a Shonen.
That’s so true. It has pretty much every textbook classic shonen trait because that’s exactly what it is 😂.
Personally, as someone who tried out Naruto later on in life, I’d say it’s more over than underrated. Don’t get me wrong, the series has its fair share of standout moments but equally as many frustrating and inconsistent moments.
Exactly
I have the oppsite view i watched it last year, and i loved, its themes and parallels and meaning are better than any manga ive read, and i think its one of the more consistent big shows, bleach and one piece have way more bad arc compared to naruto
Specially the Talking-no jutsu BS
I'm reading it right now and, at the moment, is really good so far
@@fernandovelazquez7653it’s 2023 and y’all still complain about that jeez😭
I figured the votes were botted.
Don't get it twisted: Sakura has her pros but can you really tell me with a straight face that you would rather vote for Sakura than people like Obito, Rock Lee, and a dozen hundred other characters.
Sasuke should’ve been here
To me naruto has essentially a big 3 in terms of female characters for me, that's kushina, tsunade, konan, with honorable mentions to chiyo, temari, and shizune. Anko should've definitely done more in some way shape of form same with most of them aside from like tsunade. Thoughts?. Also I'd just like to say amazing video I'd love for this to be a series or something even just another vid like ut would be great thank you.
Neji downplay is ridiculous.
Also the whole naruto proving the cycle of hatred thing wrong might as well be a retcon with how much later it was added to the story. (Not saying it doesn’t make sense, but it was poorly implemented)
Neji, whose main theme is "succumbing to fate"(or "overcoming fate" if you want to be charitable, but i'm not dying on THAT hill), talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. I find this interesting because it takes the age-old formula of a character fulfilling one goal, one destiny, and flips it on its head by placing a 50% chance in Naruto actually becoming the villain. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground(though Neji was right about his own destiny to die for the main branch unless you want to be charitable, but again, im not dying on that hill).
BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
Two Goats in one video??
I love Boruto but I never read the prequel-series
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Can I ask how?
@@DJET723 no
@@himenomagnum248 okay how do you manage that?
@@DJET723 it was a joke