Answering Brother Ben X's Question on Shirk ● Najeeb al-Anjelesi
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The question at the end of the day is, "Does a person follow Prophet Muhammad ( peace and blessing upon him) who was the sent Prophet and messenger sent to mankind or do they follow Wesley Muhammad. If you follow the guidance and understanding of Prophet Muhammad ( peace and blessing upon him) then you are a Muslim. If you prefer Mr. Wesley's interpretation than you are not. It really is that simple.
Let me set the record straight about what the NOI understanding is about ALLAH. It's not a question on whether or not you accept what we say as fact or not, at least now, you shouldn't mix truth with falsehood. When we, NOI, get on out prayer rugs, and do salat, we are bowing to honor and show our respect to the Originator of all that Exist; The Almightly Unseen Force. However, we state that the revelation that was revealed (The Tanakh, The Injil, The Quran, and etc) are revealed by DIVINE, HOLY, PERFECTED, and RIGHTEOUS MEN. MASTER FARAD MUHAMMAD is one of those DIVINE MEN. As we are taught, HE is the SUPREME BEING. As we are taught, at a certan point in time, these DIVINE MEN would choose a man to deliver their revelations to, aka Prophet Muhammad of 1400 years ago.
Peace be upon humanity. I like to state that prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.),stated; I leave you two things the Book of Allah and my Sunna, if you follow them you will never go astray..,..My brothers, , do not let Satan the open enemy divide you…. Ali out of Chicago…
This is strange. The one you should be addressing brother is Dr. Wesley Muhammad, not Bro. Ben X. Dr. Wesley Muhammad is the one with a Ph.D. in Islamic studies and who can read and understand the Classical Arabic text.
@jacksondarryl34
In the Name of Allah, the beneficent the Merciful.
Hello again my friend. When it comes to Elijah being a messenger or prophet from Allah then this is impossible according to the same book that Elijah pretended to believe in.
In the Noble Quran, in Surah Ahzab ( 33) Ayat (40), in a translation of what Allah (the Most High) says …” Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the messengers. And ever is Allah, of all things, Knowing.”
So here, it clearly says that Muhammad (pbuh) was he last of the messengers because the Arabic phrase used here is رَّسُولَ اللَّهِ or “ Messenger of Allah”. In the face of this crystal clear text, How can Elijah on one hand say that he is a messenger from Allah while also claiming to believe in the Quran whicht says he is not? Either he was 1. extremely confused 2. never really read the Quran 3. Or he was lying through his teeth about being a messenger.
Real Muslims have no choice but to believe in every letter of the Quran and all Authenticated Ahadith. So if All ( SWT) says clearly in His Book , that Muhammad ( PBUH) was the last messenger than we have zero problems believing this. ESPECIALLY since, ALL Ahadith and centuries of knowledge support this fact.
However, you will find that many non-Muslims or so-called Muslims ignorant of the Religion having a hard time with this fact because they prefer to follow their desires which is the OPOSITE of Islamic submission. When you study this topic a little more, you’ll see that true prophets and messengers were only men, but they did not have the same character flaws found in Elijah such as fornication and lying. Allah would never choose men with these types of problems to carry His message despite the lies one finds in the corrupted versions of the Bible.
Anyone under the sun can say they are a messenger. Dedicating your life to improving the lives of Black folks does not make you a messenger from Allah. Just like devoting your life to improving the lives of children or , women or any other group does not make you a messenger from Allah just because you say it. It makes you a better person than most people but it does not make you a messenger. What Islamic proof do you have to prove Elijah was a messenger? Mind you , I said ISLAMIC Proof, not so called proof from brother or sister “so and so”. Thank you.
Traditional Muslims are always attacking the NOI about shirk, yet Traditional Muslims are incapable of telling us who and what Allah is. You cannot accuse someone of shirk if you don’t know who or what Allah is. These arguments traditional Muslims give against NOI are old, tired and weak.
(4c)Chapter: Belief in the Divine Decree - Section 3(4c)باب الإيمان بالقدر - الفصل الثالث
Abud Darda' reported God’s messenger as saying, “God created Adam when He created him and struck his right shoulder and brought forth his offspring white like small ants. And he struck his left shoulder and brought forth his offspring black as though they were charcoal. Then He said to the party on his right side, ‘To paradise, and I do not care’ and He said to the party in his left shoulder, ‘To hell, and I do not care’.”
Ahmad transmitted it.
Grade: Isnād Hasan (Zubair `Aliza'i) صَحِيح (الألباني) حكم :
إسنادہ حسن (زبیر علی زئی)
Reference : Mishkat al-Masabih 119
In-book reference : Book 1, Hadith 112
POINT 4: Minute 32:16 to 32:18 [Nobody can wear the name Allah]
Again Dr. Wesley Muhammad's scholarship can refute this claim as well.
See the book, "The Anunnaki - And the Sacred Science of The Black God," by Dr. Wesley Muhammad Ph.D.,
Chapters II: "We Are All Allah": The Family of God Allah the Great Ancestor,"
Chapter VII: Allah: "The Black God of Ancient Arabia," and
Chapter VIII: "The Anunnaki: Allah - Gods of Ancient Sumer."
Too much info for the comment section of RUclips.
I think someone needs to tell this brother that Dr.Wesley learned classical Arabic.
So what.
@@jamielsaddiq9692 So what? If you can't engage The Classical Arabic Texts, then you have no business trying to tell someone that they are not real Muslims! What a ridiculous comment!!
@jacksondarryl34 I speak classical Arabic fluently, so who is it that can't engage in the classical Arabic text?! You brothers insinuate things that which you have no knowledge at the detriment to yourselves. Everyday that passes by brings you closer to your meeting with Allah, take heed today and make sure you put yourself in a position where you're in good standing with Him, despite Dr. Wesley and his inventing lies against Allah.
Dr Wesley Muhammad can work through Classical Arabic through books of etymology but he does not speak it fluently like this brother does.
Dr. Westley studied at Michigan or whatever college. He is by no means whatsoever a scholar of Islam. He is simply the best the NOI has produced.
POINT 5: [Man God vs Spook God]
Prophet Muhammad's Man-God: "Most important is the report by the Prophet’s cousin and famed “Interpreter of the Quran,” ‘Abd Allah b. Abbas: “The Messenger of God said: ‘I saw my Lord under the form of a young man (shabb)..."
Elijah Muhammad's Man-God: “God is a man and we just cannot make Him other than man, lest we make Him an inferior one,…”
Abū Ḥāmid Muḥammad ibn Muḥammad aṭ-Ṭūsiyy al-Ġazzālīy's Spook-God: "He [God Most High] is not a body with a form, or a limited, quantitative substance…He does not resemble anything that exists, nor does anything that exists resemble him. There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him, nor is He like unto anything. He is not delimited by magnitude, contained by places, encompassed by directions, or bound by heavens or earth…"
Holy Quran 109:1-5 “In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Say: O disbelievers, I serve not THAT which you serve. Nor do you serve HIM Whom I serve. Nor shall I serve THAT which ye serve. Nor do you serve HIM Whom I serve.” [emphasis added].
What Hadith with Abbas mentioned is it? Sahih Bukhari? Muslim ? What number Hadith?
@@24434AbdulWakil . Ibn Furak, Mushkil al-hadith, 386: Ibn ‘Umar to Ibn ‘Abbas: “Did the Messenger of God see his Lord?” “Yes, he saw Him in His form (suratihi) on a golden throne, veiled with a golden cover, in the form of a young man (shabb rajul).”
See also: More sources: Makhul al-Shami (d. 730-35), Sa id b. al-Mussayyib of Medina (d.713), Amir b. Sharahil al-Sha bi (d. 721-8) of Kufa and al-Hasan of Basra (d.728) were considered the four leading scholars of that time.
There are at least 20+ more sources to track down and validate.
These sources are cited in Dr. Wesley's dissertation "Tajalli wa-Ru’ya: A Study of Anthropomorphic Theophany and Visio Dei in the Hebrew Bible, the Qur’an and Early Summi Islam"
@@24434AbdulWakil Ibn Furak, Mushkil al-hadith, 386: Ibn ‘Umar to Ibn ‘Abbas: “Did the Messenger of God see his Lord?” “Yes, he saw Him in His form (suratihi) on a golden throne, veiled with a golden cover, in the form of a young man (shabb rajul)...”
Dr Wesley Muhammad probably will not respond ro this brother! He has no citations..lol just talking!
Me being honest, this video wasn't about Dr Wesley, I'm answering the question Brother Ben X asked, and if he listens to it, he'll have a better understanding of what shirk actually is. As for citations, I quoted the Quran several times in this clip, I also quoted the Prophet Muhammad (sallahu alayhi wa sallam) more than once. Did you actually watch the video with an open mind or heart? Or did you view it to simply dismiss what was said?
@@PureIslaam Both to be honest! This wasn't about Dr Wesley Muhammad, I know, but Brother Ben X was given a scholarly understanding of what Shirk is from Dr Wesley Muhammad. You can expand on what Wesley Muhammad taught brother Ben and that's fine.It seems as if what Wesley Muhammad teaches on Shirk is somehow erroneous! You can lean a lot from him, for he is an Islamic scholar Par Excellence!
"Both to be honest" really?! You cannot listen to something with an open mind and heart and at the same time listen to intentional be dismissive. As if this matter is being taken as a joke to you, when this matter is very serious.
@@PureIslaam This is a very serious matter and I admitted to being partly dismissive! That was wrong on my part! It is largely due to being well aware of the scholarship of Dr Wesley Muhammad! He would not have approved! He is so meticulous in his approach to this subject and his methodology is outstanding! He sets a particular standard in his research by bringing receipts! I think you should do the same, which is my reasoning for being partly dismissive! My apologies sir!
Spook God Muslims!!
As a former member of the NOI myself. I can definitely say that what the NOI believes about The Creator of the Universe cannot be supported with evidence for the Quran that they pretend to follow. I remember when they came up with the term "spook" god decades and decades ago and it seemed like such a funny little zinger to use against Sunni Muslims but now, decades later as a Sunni myself, I can see how the only way you can comfortably use the term 'spook god' is because your understanding of Islam has not been expanded yet. You are still looking at Islam from the same glasses of the former slave masters. I invite you to abandon that archaic and limited way of understanding Islam and instead be your own man and study for yourself.
@@suaiman4263 Here we go! Sir the term, " Spook God" can be appropriately applied when discussing the modern conceptions of Allah in the broader Islamic community. Ok, I'll use the terms immaterial and incorporeal God! Makes it better? The Quran does not explicitly say that God is a man, but it also does not explicitly or implicitly say that he is NOT a man. We need the Sunnah for that ( you are Sunni..right?) I understand that, by reading what took place after the fall of the Umyyad Dynasty , that there was a " Theological shift" if you will, that took Islam on a much different course. And this shift came with Persian converts to Islam and the introduction of Greek Hellenistic interpretations of God. Deep subject...check it out!
@@jacksondarryl34 Yes, here we go! …
Islam was sent to the earth to rid humankind and jinn of all types of sin and filth with shirk being the worst of them all. As Allah says in his book over and over that this is the only sin that will never be forgiven if a person dies while committing it. (i.e. shirk)
Each and every single “REAL” messenger and prophet taught the science of Tawheed to help humankind understand shirk and then free themself from it. One of the most basic & fundamental principles of Tawheed is that no member of the creation ( Human, jinn, etc.) has the right to call the Creator of the Heavens and the earth by a name that they have no permission to use. It also goes for using characteristics as well. So if a person does not have a clear text or authentic hadith giving them permission to refer to Allah by a certain characteristic or name then they are clearly committing shirk without doubt.
To call Allah a spook god or to say that understanding Allah’s true qualities as described in His Book the Quran, is looking at Allah like a spook god is nothing but shirk my friend. So the one who says Allah is a spook god because of the characteristics mentioned in the Quran is not a Muslim.
In your comment “but it also does not explicitly or implicitly say that he is NOT a man.” This is clearly false as well. At the end of the Quran, in Surah Ikhlas (112) , Allah says that He is not Born , nor does he beget when mankind is a creature that is born and is also a creature that begets. Allah also says that he is not like his creation nor is His creation like him ( in any way).
The Quran is also flooded with proofs of how Allah historically dealt with people who tried to believe that the Creator of the heavens and the universe was a man like them.
Prophet Muhammad ( PBUH) said that that Islam would split into 72 sects by the time that the Day of Judgment arrived and that all of them would be in the hellfire except for the one that He and his companions were on. I’m trying to learn how to practice that original version so I’m not too interested in Persian or Greek interpretations of Allah. They are just humans and members of the creation. I prefer to get my understandings of the Creator from the Creator himself and not members of the Creation. God day to you my friend.
@@suaiman4263 Really? I think that you need a much clearer understanding of what you're trying to to convey. I am not calling Allah a Spook God; those who articulate Allah's immateriality is! Your understanding of Quranic syntax is troublesome . Anyone that does not understand and recognize that Allah has a human form is guilty of Shirk. " He neither begets nor is He begotten" is referring to two different manifestations of Allah. You need a deeper understanding dear brother. Allah created Adam after is form. Prelapsarian Adam was a human, but with characteristics unlike that of fallen Man. You need to do some more research dear brother.
@@suaiman4263 Are you saying that The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad is not a real Messenger? That's ludicrous in and of itself!
Shirk has an extensive definition. Not only does it mean to NOT associate anyone with Allah, but it also mean to Not rely on any one or anything except Allah. Note: You might wanna leave Dr. Wesley Muhammad alone! Tou are Not qualified to deal with one of the greatest Islamic scholars alive!!!
Reliance is a specific act of worship, thus it's included within shirk if associated with other than Allah, this was mentioned in the clip. Second; no one over here fears Dr. Wesley insomuch that I or any other Muslim would keep quiet on the incorrect notions he spreads. Regrettably, you're fooled by him, not us.
I think he is qualified
@@PURE11_11 To do what? Challenge The scholarship of Dr Wesley Muhammad? Uhhhh Okay 🆗!! He can try!
@@PureIslaam The NOI doesn't practice neither! I can name a number of Classical Islamic scholars that agrees with the teachings the NOI! Some would agree that the broader Islamic community is practicing Shirk by worshipping an immaterial, incorporeal God!
@@jacksondarryl34 we’ll just let Dr Wesley and Ben X speak for themselves, whenever they choose to do so.
POINT 3: [Allah is a Man]
Holy Quran 53:12 Do you then dispute with him as to what he saw?
In what form did Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) describe seeing his Lord in? Answer: “In the most beautiful form, like a young man (shabb) with exuberant hair”. Reference: Al-Daraqutni, Kitab al-Ruya, 356-7 # 285
Muhammad b. Ishaq < ‘Abd al-Rahman b. al-Harith < ‘AbdAllah b. Abi Salama: [‘Abd Allah b. Abi Salama] narrates: [One day], ‘Abd Allah b. ‘Umar (the son of second Caliph) sent [a messenger] to ask ‘Abd Allah b. Abbas if Muhammad had seen his Lord. Abd Allah b. Abbas made him answer yes. ‘Abd Allah b. ‘Umar sent him his messenger again, to ask him how he had seen Him. [Ibn ‘Abbas] had him answer that he had seen Him in a verdant garden, [in the form of a young man (shabb) having under him a carpet of gold, [and also] on a footstool of gold that carried that four angels, an angel in the form of a man, an angel in the form of a bull, an angel in the form of an eagle, an angel in the form of a lion.”
Quoted Source: Tajalli wa-Ruya: A Study of Anthropomorphic Theophany and Vision Dei in the Hebrew Bible, the Quran and Early Sunni Islam, by Dr. Wesley Muhammad Ph.D..
Ibn Furak, Mushkil al-hadith, 386: Ibn ‘Umar to Ibn ‘Abbas: “Did the Messenger of God see his Lord?” “Yes, he saw Him in His form (suratihi) on a golden throne, veiled with a golden cover, in the form of a young man (shabb rajul)...”
The Mother of the Faithful was generally dismissed in favor of Ibn Abbas on this issue. Abd al-Razzaq b. Hammam (d. 826) mentioned the hadith of Aisha’s denial to Ma mar b. Rashid (d. 770), the famous Yemenite muhaddith, who said, Aisha is not with us more knowledgeable (in this matter) than Ibn Abbas. Al-Marrudhi reported concerning Ibn Hanbal: I said to Ahmad: “Some say that Aisha said ‘Whoever claims that Muhammad saw his Lord lies greatly against God’ How should we respond?” (Ahmad) said: “With the words of the Prophet, ‘I saw my Lord.’ His words are greater than hers.” - Al-Khallas, Kitab al-Sunna, apud Ibn Hajar, Faith al-Bari, 8:608-9, et.al.. Quoted Source: Tajalli wa-Ruya: A Study of Anthropomorphic Theophany and Vision Dei in the Hebrew Bible, the Quran and Early Sunni Islam, by Dr. Wesley Muhammad Ph.D..
Lastly, it is said that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saw the angel Jibril and the angel was so large, with over 600 wings that the prophet could not see the angels ends...YET he (the angel Jibril) appeared in the form of a MAN and questioned the prophet on Islam. My point to you is if the angel Jibril CAN APPEAR in the form of a MAN and Allah cannot, wouldn't that make Jibril more powerful than Allah? Emphatically NO! Allah did appear in the form of a man, so says Prophet Muhammad (see above).
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