It would be so cool to get a melee/caster hybrid spec that uses only a single 1h and an offhand caster item, there's never been anything like it before. I would also love to see dual wield shields somehow. But this class is super fun, I'll probably main this or cultist. Great work man
To my understanding this really captures the holy warrior aspect of paladins and that's a thing I really like. I am very much interested in how complex the tank rotation is here. Having many active mitigation skills and having to use many active mitigation skills isn't quite the same and I couldn't figure out, if most if not all abilities are supposed to be used on cooldown or not.
I love clerics, they are my favorite class in DnD fantasy. A cleric with the Sun and War domains blasting everything on their way is just how I build them. Guess I already know wich class is my main !
@mcdoubles… you know I love you duder. The commentary from these latest vids really sound like large parts are written by the Ascension team. They even sound like the commentary they usually have over their own videos lol. Not hating, I just prefer your own words! Hope to see a Stormbringer fix soon! ❤
I relaly like it when a class has definitive strengths, but equally definitive weaknesses that can be just as iconic and class defining as the things they're good at. The idea of a wrecking machine of a holy paladin slowly marching down enemies because they have no gap closer makes them SO much cooler than if they had a generic charge and had to sacrifice their strength to accomodate balance wise.
Im loving how indepth youre going with these videos. It's rekindling a lot of intrigue of the game. Is there a rough talent calculator anywhere to have a look yet?
I take it there's going to be gear with custom stats as tank gear with intellect that works with the 'Protector of the Flame' passive ( 9:34 ), is a bit nonexistent iirc in the default loot pools of the classic era.
Cool videos so far. I like watching the spotlights for the classes. They help me understand what the team is going for with these classes. Just a quick question, when level 60 drops, are you able to play existing chars or do you need to make new ones?
Hey McDoubles, I appreciate your videos. You got me into Ascension wow a long time ago. I have taken a decently long break but all of these CoA videos got me wanting to play again. When will CoA be accessible to play?
You think its possible to have something like Righteous Fire from Path of Exile to this class? Maybe in the melee tree (even though rf has a spell damage buff) having their hp as a resource for this skill?
Did you guys play around with Valkyrie's Grip and make it even more unique so they may use one 2h weapon or even more specific like polearm/sword combo?
Btw you 100% pronounced An'she and Mu'sha correctly. There is also some theory I believe initially created by Pyromancer that says An'she and Mu'sha might be fractal stories for Elune and Sargeras.
Quick question Mcdoubles, is it worth leveling a character in CoA to 50 before the level cap gets increased to 60, or is it gonna be a fresh wipe this time around? I bought CoA a couple of years ago but I haven't played with it as much as I've wanted to, but if I can tinker with it a bit before the 13th I'd like to for sure!
if I ever Play COA this guy is my main! melee dps and 2nd spec is healer or tank(but could be tank for soloing stuff - although I love healing in general more in wow- )
This game is looking amazing. Honestly, I didn't like the idea of Ascension WoW, but the fact that you are making classes that look incredibly fun and in-depth is making me reconsider. I was only really considering DuskHaven, but we have another worthy contender. Also, is CoA vanilla or vanilla+? Great job so far, looking forward to more videos!
Part of me also likes the subtle enh shaman effect built in, but I would feel like if the first melee ability we get would Cost Mana Instead of Rage and be a rage generator instead for the early levels cause rage gain is bad for the early portions, but at the same time there isn't enough of a rage dump, aside from the Glorious Execution ability being 40(30 with talent) Part of me is also thinking with how the 45s cd ability is being a promised crit with Sunset, I feel like making it a rage dump as well to tack more damage on percentage wise (like how FB damage for druid is based on Energy) It's a idea i just thought of, but was thinking if GE is going to be the mage Rage dump the Reset ability also needs to be able to be used with dual 2h as well. or the cd just be lower while we have the titan's grip effect active. But the class is quite fun to play, and with how far it's coming it looks like CoA will be a great edition to play with spare time, (also if core classes do get added gonna say a lot of their kit would need to be redesigned to compete with the damage of the 21 customs.)
You know, with Starcaller being Night Elf inspired and Sun Cleric being Tauren inspired, this is giving heavy Faction AND Race specific class vibes. I imagine they're not, but it almost seems like it is
@MoltenMeta I hope not. Vanilla shows the issue with doing that and it's just not a good idea imo. Now to let one faction have MUCH easier access than the other? I'm okay with that.
To me lore wise sun cleric is more personal connection with what gives you light powers, while paladin is more community and is about your faith in what you are doing for the light. Sun cleric is something directly giving you power. Paladin is vasically star wars the force with your belief and confidence in your actions using it is why you are able to. Basically I see it as if you are doubling if smiting down some enemy is wrong then the light won't give you it's power. That is why the light may leave someone trying to help but unsure of themselves but is widely used by the scarlet crusade. it isn't because what the scarlet crusade is doing is good but they fully believe in their actions. and obviously having a community to help you stay in the right mentality helps. Because someone outside the scarlet crusade may question if all undead are really so bad? But in the scarlet crusade you are constantly assured they are and need to be slained by hands of people like yourself. So yeah lore wise they are different even though they seen similar with both being plate wielders using the light
Yet another plate wearer 4 spec class. Are all the classes 4 specs? There seems to be ultimately no difference between any of the classes, I know each class has a bit different play style. But not every class needs to be Melee/ranged DPS, Tank and healer. its ok to have a pure DPS class with 2 or 3 specs, or hell a class that follows like DH, 1 DPS and 1 tank spec. I dont have access to COA and the only info I get is from these videos, but I am not sold on this just yet, hopefully as more of these Class Spotlights come out that will change, but you are currently 1/4 of the way thru all the classes and what you have shown is ok, but 3 out of the 5 so far are plate wearing 4 spec classes (I know cultist uses cloth for their healing/ranged DPS if I heard right in the video) but its still there.
Dont knock it till you try it. Classes are vastly different from each other and ive had a blast, leveling a Reaper, Templar, Ranger, Starcaller, and Son of Arugal so far, to 60. I will probably level every class simply put.
@@Will-V4 Oh 100% I was more worried because the first few videos were so similar, and with my only info on CoA coming from McDoubles it had me a little worried when we had yet another plate wearing 4 spec class. I have watched his other Class Spotlight videos and am really happy with what I am seeing right now. I am really excited to play CoA once it releases.
@@Will-V4 Been commenting on every vid, I do want to try it out. Ive thought about spending $15 for it, but Im not sure when it is supposed to go live and what I dont want to happen is 1 of 2 things. 1: It goes live within a month or two of me purchasing it, cause I'm a patient person I can wait that long. 2: it ends up being a few years like the 50 alpha/beta and I lose interest until it goes live.
Is Necro the only Class that hasn't had 4 specs so far? I think it is, this is a lot of Specs per class so far, and so many of them are Casters/Ranged, Melee, Healers, AND Tanks...
I'm interested in CoA, and these videos are a nice extra dive into mechanics and ideas, but I can't shake how every breakdown in these videos seems heavily PvP focused. When discussing what makes a class unique, or what makes a class "balanced", it focuses on mobility, CC, or resistances to interrupts. I wish there was more focus on the rotations, and what really differentiates the roles from other specs of the same role in PvE content.
Healing throw rage. Now I can not picture the heal not using and chants to cast their healing spells. They just sit there cursing you out that you got hit. With these angry curse words, your body start to nit wounds and regrow limbs.
i don't know about this,maybe it's just me but i was never a fan of titan grip to begin with and having a sun cleric to go berserk with 2 two handers doesn't feel right to me. i think going dps spear and shield like the Hoplite legendary enchantement in Ascension would've been more of a fit with a valkyrie fantasy
It would be so cool to get a melee/caster hybrid spec that uses only a single 1h and an offhand caster item, there's never been anything like it before. I would also love to see dual wield shields somehow. But this class is super fun, I'll probably main this or cultist. Great work man
This is Escanor from 7Deadly Sins
Naw. It’s the light domain cleric from dnd.
This class is freaking insane and I love it so much.
I love your explination for why some classes are here. The lore may be sparse but it's there
To my understanding this really captures the holy warrior aspect of paladins and that's a thing I really like.
I am very much interested in how complex the tank rotation is here. Having many active mitigation skills and having to use many active mitigation skills isn't quite the same and I couldn't figure out, if most if not all abilities are supposed to be used on cooldown or not.
I love clerics, they are my favorite class in DnD fantasy. A cleric with the Sun and War domains blasting everything on their way is just how I build them. Guess I already know wich class is my main !
keep them coming my friend! awesome WORK! really wanna play CoA
Amazing video! Also what an amazing Blessing Sun cleric, absolute best sc :P
Baladin - Elune, these videos made me download ascension, cant wait when CoA is avaible
@mcdoubles… you know I love you duder. The commentary from these latest vids really sound like large parts are written by the Ascension team. They even sound like the commentary they usually have over their own videos lol. Not hating, I just prefer your own words! Hope to see a Stormbringer fix soon! ❤
but whats the difference? hes literally part of the ascension team now.
@@kqar1 it sound like promotional material is the difference is all.
i like this format. its much more informative imo
@@petros9711 This is promotional material
These videos make me wanna play Coa so much
I relaly like it when a class has definitive strengths, but equally definitive weaknesses that can be just as iconic and class defining as the things they're good at. The idea of a wrecking machine of a holy paladin slowly marching down enemies because they have no gap closer makes them SO much cooler than if they had a generic charge and had to sacrifice their strength to accomodate balance wise.
Can't wait to hear the hurdles of templar/monk and the overlap with paladin/cleric.
Im loving how indepth youre going with these videos.
It's rekindling a lot of intrigue of the game.
Is there a rough talent calculator anywhere to have a look yet?
The massivenesses of the incredible plethoras of uniquenesses in their varieties might be a design hurdle of its own.
I often play a Sun Cleric in DnD when I don't feel like playing my 17th Paladin Archetype. Looks fun.
I take it there's going to be gear with custom stats as tank gear with intellect that works with the 'Protector of the Flame' passive ( 9:34 ), is a bit nonexistent iirc in the default loot pools of the classic era.
Cool videos so far. I like watching the spotlights for the classes. They help me understand what the team is going for with these classes.
Just a quick question, when level 60 drops, are you able to play existing chars or do you need to make new ones?
You will be able to play existing characters, you wont have to make new ones for 60 specifically
I’m waiting on that Felsworn video 👍🏾
Hey McDoubles, I appreciate your videos. You got me into Ascension wow a long time ago. I have taken a decently long break but all of these CoA videos got me wanting to play again.
When will CoA be accessible to play?
Outside of alpha stages it would still be a few months before full launch
AWESOME MAN
MAIN HEALER HYPE! healers, we're getting spoiled.
Fuck CoA is getting so sweet! I love the change to 4 specs and I think this is my fave holy knight iteration.
I was JUST thinking about this class. So, it'll be *high* up the list for me, tied 1st with guardian probably.
Damnit Mcdoubles.... I just want to sit and stream CoA all day now lol
You think its possible to have something like Righteous Fire from Path of Exile to this class? Maybe in the melee tree (even though rf has a spell damage buff) having their hp as a resource for this skill?
Did you guys play around with Valkyrie's Grip and make it even more unique so they may use one 2h weapon or even more specific like polearm/sword combo?
Btw you 100% pronounced An'she and Mu'sha correctly. There is also some theory I believe initially created by Pyromancer that says An'she and Mu'sha might be fractal stories for Elune and Sargeras.
Quick question Mcdoubles, is it worth leveling a character in CoA to 50 before the level cap gets increased to 60, or is it gonna be a fresh wipe this time around? I bought CoA a couple of years ago but I haven't played with it as much as I've wanted to, but if I can tinker with it a bit before the 13th I'd like to for sure!
Only if you want to figure how what to main early and refresh yourself on the class before starting a fresh journey
No, I'm already planning on going Starcaller Melee Hybrid, why is the Sun Cleric's Melee Hybrid also really cool to me...
if I ever Play COA this guy is my main! melee dps and 2nd spec is healer or tank(but could be tank for soloing stuff - although I love healing in general more in wow- )
would love that aura on a melee monk like class could make my own super saiyan
This game is looking amazing. Honestly, I didn't like the idea of Ascension WoW, but the fact that you are making classes that look incredibly fun and in-depth is making me reconsider. I was only really considering DuskHaven, but we have another worthy contender. Also, is CoA vanilla or vanilla+? Great job so far, looking forward to more videos!
Part of me also likes the subtle enh shaman effect built in, but I would feel like if the first melee ability we get would Cost Mana Instead of Rage and be a rage generator instead for the early levels cause rage gain is bad for the early portions, but at the same time there isn't enough of a rage dump, aside from the Glorious Execution ability being 40(30 with talent) Part of me is also thinking with how the 45s cd ability is being a promised crit with Sunset, I feel like making it a rage dump as well to tack more damage on percentage wise (like how FB damage for druid is based on Energy) It's a idea i just thought of, but was thinking if GE is going to be the mage Rage dump the Reset ability also needs to be able to be used with dual 2h as well. or the cd just be lower while we have the titan's grip effect active.
But the class is quite fun to play, and with how far it's coming it looks like CoA will be a great edition to play with spare time, (also if core classes do get added gonna say a lot of their kit would need to be redesigned to compete with the damage of the 21 customs.)
You know, with Starcaller being Night Elf inspired and Sun Cleric being Tauren inspired, this is giving heavy Faction AND Race specific class vibes. I imagine they're not, but it almost seems like it is
I hope it is.
As of right now, There's not really any race or faction specific classes, idk what they are gonna do in the future but right now it's not
@MoltenMeta I hope not. Vanilla shows the issue with doing that and it's just not a good idea imo. Now to let one faction have MUCH easier access than the other? I'm okay with that.
I'm actually pumped for COA
Did I just see you using ashbringer 😮 1:33
Mcdoubles new favourite word "plethora" strikes again!
By lieu of this plethora, I agree
To me lore wise sun cleric is more personal connection with what gives you light powers, while paladin is more community and is about your faith in what you are doing for the light. Sun cleric is something directly giving you power. Paladin is vasically star wars the force with your belief and confidence in your actions using it is why you are able to. Basically I see it as if you are doubling if smiting down some enemy is wrong then the light won't give you it's power. That is why the light may leave someone trying to help but unsure of themselves but is widely used by the scarlet crusade. it isn't because what the scarlet crusade is doing is good but they fully believe in their actions. and obviously having a community to help you stay in the right mentality helps. Because someone outside the scarlet crusade may question if all undead are really so bad? But in the scarlet crusade you are constantly assured they are and need to be slained by hands of people like yourself. So yeah lore wise they are different even though they seen similar with both being plate wielders using the light
this is my spec!!! By the Light!!!
where's the Reaper brother? I need it!
when is coa ready to play?
PRAISE THE SUN!
Wait, what is a templar? Is that a new class or something?
Yet another plate wearer 4 spec class. Are all the classes 4 specs? There seems to be ultimately no difference between any of the classes, I know each class has a bit different play style. But not every class needs to be Melee/ranged DPS, Tank and healer. its ok to have a pure DPS class with 2 or 3 specs, or hell a class that follows like DH, 1 DPS and 1 tank spec. I dont have access to COA and the only info I get is from these videos, but I am not sold on this just yet, hopefully as more of these Class Spotlights come out that will change, but you are currently 1/4 of the way thru all the classes and what you have shown is ok, but 3 out of the 5 so far are plate wearing 4 spec classes (I know cultist uses cloth for their healing/ranged DPS if I heard right in the video) but its still there.
You have no idea what you are talking about 😂
Dont knock it till you try it. Classes are vastly different from each other and ive had a blast, leveling a Reaper, Templar, Ranger, Starcaller, and Son of Arugal so far, to 60. I will probably level every class simply put.
@@Will-V4 Oh 100% I was more worried because the first few videos were so similar, and with my only info on CoA coming from McDoubles it had me a little worried when we had yet another plate wearing 4 spec class. I have watched his other Class Spotlight videos and am really happy with what I am seeing right now. I am really excited to play CoA once it releases.
@@Viertis hopefully you get a free copy and come play with us. Go comment on the Templar vid 😀
@@Will-V4 Been commenting on every vid, I do want to try it out. Ive thought about spending $15 for it, but Im not sure when it is supposed to go live and what I dont want to happen is 1 of 2 things. 1: It goes live within a month or two of me purchasing it, cause I'm a patient person I can wait that long. 2: it ends up being a few years like the 50 alpha/beta and I lose interest until it goes live.
Hi is there any plans for adding the original classes in coa?
you neeeeever know
I think Valkyrie spec will have a lot of fans. That sticks out to me as the coolest setup.
Currently lvling valkyrie, and I see almost no sun clerics at all
Is Necro the only Class that hasn't had 4 specs so far? I think it is, this is a lot of Specs per class so far, and so many of them are Casters/Ranged, Melee, Healers, AND Tanks...
There are 5 classes with 4 specs out of the 21
I'm interested in CoA, and these videos are a nice extra dive into mechanics and ideas, but I can't shake how every breakdown in these videos seems heavily PvP focused. When discussing what makes a class unique, or what makes a class "balanced", it focuses on mobility, CC, or resistances to interrupts. I wish there was more focus on the rotations, and what really differentiates the roles from other specs of the same role in PvE content.
Hoolyy cow !
Please, please give us a shield holy caster that can be played in melee!
Why is sun cleric unavailable for night elves?😭😭😢🥺🥺🥺
Am I playing the right game ? I don't see any if these classes
This is on the CoA alpha server.
Epic ! XD
Can you play COA right now in alpha?
ye
it's gonna be so hard to pick a main!
Pog
Why is it called Sunset and not Sunrise if you're growing in power to the sun's apex?
when next CoA giveaway? :D
I think a better name for the passive would be SUNRISE
When you gonna make gnomes be able to be guardians or barbarians
doesnt game use woltk client curious more dont use dk resource systems?
Level 13 Valkryie, main attacks use rage and I have no way to build rage, wtf? Makes no sense.
Healing throw rage. Now I can not picture the heal not using and chants to cast their healing spells. They just sit there cursing you out that you got hit. With these angry curse words, your body start to nit wounds and regrow limbs.
They angerily shout at the sunand u get healed indeed 😂
WHY CAN'T THIS BE IN AREA 52???
This game will be better than fucking product from Blizzard
i don't know about this,maybe it's just me but i was never a fan of titan grip to begin with and having a sun cleric to go berserk with 2 two handers doesn't feel right to me.
i think going dps spear and shield like the Hoplite legendary enchantement in Ascension would've been more of a fit with a valkyrie fantasy
Praise an'she
Hi! thanks for your videos ! very helpful to chose what to test first! if you pick me for the giveaway my name is Elyarra on Elune server! see ya
I’m gunna lose it if you say plethora wrong again, PLEH-THR-UH
These are great but you better stop saying Lieu.