Ken Norton - Cross-Armed Defense

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

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  • @hanzagod
    @hanzagod  3 года назад +91

    One of the best Heavyweights of the 1970's! Ken Norton had a unique but very effective style that caused many top Heavyweights of his time all the problems in the world. While he was sometimes susceptible to big punchers, Norton was the complete opposite when matched up with good boxers - he gave them complete fits with his cross-armed defense so that's what I wanted to showcase here! www.patreon.com/haNZAgod

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 3 года назад +1

      Yeah Ken Norton could not fight on the back foot. That why he was very susceptible to big punchers like Foreman, Shavers and Cooney

    • @UBboxing
      @UBboxing 3 года назад +5

      Great fighter norton. Knocked out top heavyweights like quarry and fought close battles against top fighters such as Jimmy young, Ali, Holmes.

    • @courtneysmith8092
      @courtneysmith8092 3 года назад +1

      May we see more of his career in your videos!I love the black herculese!

    • @courtneysmith8092
      @courtneysmith8092 3 года назад +1

      Would you consider him a boxer puncher?I mean lots of slips and foot work!

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 3 года назад +2

      @@courtneysmith8092 I say a boxer puncher

  • @timwitherspoon1378
    @timwitherspoon1378 2 года назад +171

    Terrible Tim Witherspoon 2X Heavyweight Champion of the World here. Love this video!!!

    • @thenameofthegame4037
      @thenameofthegame4037 Год назад +16

      Your one of the Goat crossguard users with Ken and Moore

    • @MrRobertFarr
      @MrRobertFarr Год назад +3

      Ken Norton looks like, he was in there with the best of them !

    • @akashaki4740
      @akashaki4740 Год назад +4

      @@thenameofthegame4037 Joe frazier ?

    • @leechester7251
      @leechester7251 Год назад +4

      Hey champ ! Amazing to see you here. Ken's cross arm is very similar to the philly shell you used and what you teach on your RUclips channel 👊

    • @Yehanff_670
      @Yehanff_670 Год назад

      YOU got a sub!

  • @jaren2159
    @jaren2159 3 года назад +104

    Ken is underrated

    • @combatesdeboxeo
      @combatesdeboxeo 3 года назад +4

      Overrated just because the Ali fights because he had stylistical advantage, he looked a toy next to Foreman

    • @johnd.597
      @johnd.597 3 года назад +13

      @@combatesdeboxeo maybe because Norton had a stylistic disadvantage against Foreman

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 3 года назад +5

      @@combatesdeboxeo Norton didn't know how to fight moving backwards. That's why he was so vulnerable to big punchers like Foreman and Shavers

    • @thedynamite953
      @thedynamite953 2 года назад +1

      @Cross block777 nah foreman got his hard way from Liston and trained by Moore ......no man except Ali could beat him

    • @thenameofthegame4037
      @thenameofthegame4037 2 года назад

      @@thedynamite953 im not saying he beat him indeed foremen was on a different level strength wise than all boxers.
      But If he had some more fighting on the back foot skill he might could survive some more rounds.
      Or maby even win by points

  • @ryansawyer2204
    @ryansawyer2204 3 года назад +82

    Gave Ali all he could handle. His fight vs Holmes is one of the ATG fights.

    • @UBboxing
      @UBboxing 3 года назад +14

      Tricky type is style for moving fighters such as Jimmy young, Larry Holmes and Ali. His cross guard was just really difficult to get passed when jabbing and moving which force fighters to really stand in front and pick there shots. Love the comment

    • @jacksmith18525
      @jacksmith18525 3 года назад +1

      Norton- Holmes fight is the greatest heavyweight title fight of all time imo.

    • @deadarmd
      @deadarmd 3 года назад +4

      Arguably beat ali twice.. Almost suredly

    • @j.c.n9718
      @j.c.n9718 3 года назад +1

      Yup, fight with Holmes was WAR.

    • @gokhansartas9777
      @gokhansartas9777 3 года назад +1

      @@deadarmd no. He lost 3. Match with nose 👃 difference.

  • @UBboxing
    @UBboxing 3 года назад +64

    Ken norton one of the most over looked heavyweights of all time. Great video and good music choice

    • @crazykocounters4741
      @crazykocounters4741 3 года назад +1

      He's my favourite HW

    • @thenameofthegame4037
      @thenameofthegame4037 2 года назад +1

      @@crazykocounters4741 same

    • @HaraDuran
      @HaraDuran 4 месяца назад

      If I had to pick someone that will beat the Ali who fought Cleveland Williams and Sonny Liston, it's gonna be Ken Norton.

  • @mathematics557
    @mathematics557 3 года назад +24

    Dope video ken Norton was a beast, the cross armed defense is very effective, and you seem to always have the right kind of music that fits the fighters perfectly 🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @bigman6781
    @bigman6781 3 года назад +85

    Norton was a boxers nightmare. Also Eddie Futch is one of the greatest trainers of all time. Doesn’t get nearly enough credit.

    • @courtneysmith8092
      @courtneysmith8092 3 года назад +8

      Yes Eddie Futch was a great trainer!He worked with Riddick Bowe on his journey to becoming heavyweight champion of the world

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 2 года назад +1

      Indeed

    • @victorianicolau9431
      @victorianicolau9431 2 года назад +3

      Boxers nightmare unless you're shavers, foreman, or cooney lol

    • @fuckzogtube
      @fuckzogtube 2 года назад +2

      @@victorianicolau9431 Yep, all of them could stop an elephant dead on its tracks.

    • @victorianicolau9431
      @victorianicolau9431 2 года назад +3

      @@fuckzogtube yup
      It's clear they were all wrong for norton
      Hard punchers with aggressive styles always got norton
      But if you were pretty much anyone else, he'd be a nightmare

  • @SOLE_II_SOUL
    @SOLE_II_SOUL 3 года назад +28

    Then you have Archie Moore who could counter with it. But Black Hercules was something else, my pops would imitate him all the time before I knew who he was.

    • @Mindlabytinth
      @Mindlabytinth 3 года назад +15

      the Marciano-Moore fight is still one of my favorites, in no small part due to how insane Moore's defense was

  • @2300nobody
    @2300nobody Год назад +6

    2:44 that’s a work of art 🔥🔥

  • @crazykocounters4741
    @crazykocounters4741 3 года назад +10

    Only god knows how many times I rewatch this video

  • @westcork8982
    @westcork8982 3 года назад +12

    Nicely put together, excellent era for heavyweights

  • @iKEtGoT
    @iKEtGoT 11 месяцев назад +3

    The song perfectly fits to his personality

  • @connoisseur9069
    @connoisseur9069 3 года назад +7

    One of my all time favourite heavyweights!
    Keep up the great content your one of the greatest channels of all time !

  • @Truth_above_everything
    @Truth_above_everything 3 года назад +2

    Ken Norton my favourite fighters hands down!

  • @cerromeceo
    @cerromeceo 3 года назад +32

    Excellent moving forward but terrible moving backwards. Great fighter overall. I also admired the cross armed guard style. Archie Moore, Gene Fullmer, Foreman and Norton. I wish it was used today

    • @UBboxing
      @UBboxing 3 года назад +12

      The most reason it isn’t used today is because it was never really a guard taught to begin with. Just more a natural selection fighters tended to prefer when first walking into a gym. That’s what I read on the guard. Another reason it mainly isn’t used is because of the Philly shell. Basically does what that does but the Philly gives counter opportunities much easier. Good defensive guard though if you prefer fighting and brawling and setting up power blows like fullmer, norton and foreman. Would definitely want to see some more people using it since it has been a good guard for MMA fighters

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 3 года назад +16

      @@UBboxing I think it will be perfect today if people actually find a good trainer who know how to utilize it. Plus most boxers don't know how to counter it. I always look at Archie Moore. He mastered the cross arm guard to the T. Most boxers today don't know how to use the Philly Shell. They seen Floyd do it and say hey this is easy. That's far from the true

    • @antoniomosley9410
      @antoniomosley9410 3 года назад +3

      @@cerromeceo Cough cough Anthony Yarde.

    • @lhommepeignoir5057
      @lhommepeignoir5057 3 года назад

      Weird point here, but i think the sewing of the thumb to the rest of the glove has reduced the crossgard’s effectiveness somewhat. When you can « grab » your own shoulder, the crossgard becomes super solid and resists powershots much better. In fact you’ll notice that most great crossgarders started their career when the thumb was separated, and that move was still doable in boxing gloves. It could even possibly explain why Norton didn’t fare well against punchers, not being able to create that solid structure like he could earlier in his career, to block the big bombs and threaten to break the hands.

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 3 года назад +3

      @@lhommepeignoir5057 He didn't far well against punchers because he didn't know how to fight on the back foot. Cross Arm Guard is vulnerable to fast combination punchers. Look at Moore vs Patterson. Ali and Holmes pure boxers which the cross arm guard is good against

  • @abudujana13
    @abudujana13 9 месяцев назад +2

    EXCELLENT!
    Thanks for the video

  • @tehconman10
    @tehconman10 Год назад

    I don’t think I’ve heard a more appropriate song selection on a YT vid than this. Amazing tribute.

  • @DuranArmstrong
    @DuranArmstrong 3 года назад +8

    One of the best guards in all of boxing

  • @adamzitsch9027
    @adamzitsch9027 Год назад +2

    Norton had a great ring robe , he was a great boxer , one of the best cross arm defensive fighters , had the best over hand right off of a catch parry counter of the cross arm fighters rip to him

  • @warrenhenderson2717
    @warrenhenderson2717 3 года назад +4

    R. I.P. Leatherneck 🥊🥊Semper Fi!!!!

  • @Shanemo007
    @Shanemo007 3 года назад +22

    Norton had a great hook and overhand

  • @guidooctavio3982
    @guidooctavio3982 3 года назад +13

    The are few fighters with that kind of defense, i think Gene Fulmer used to

    • @UBboxing
      @UBboxing 3 года назад +12

      He used a reverse cross guard yes. It was never really a guard taught in gyms so that’s why it isn’t really a common defence.

    • @papichurro7570
      @papichurro7570 3 года назад

      Fullmer had such a weird style

    • @StimmedPenguin
      @StimmedPenguin 3 года назад +8

      Don’t forget old Big George Foreman, Archie Moore, and even Joe Frazier.

    • @rizashahini
      @rizashahini 3 года назад

      Bennie Briscoe from Philly too

  • @rasmusdotb
    @rasmusdotb 3 года назад +1

    Once again haNZAgod never fails to deliver! Great edit

  • @felicecancellara4524
    @felicecancellara4524 3 года назад +3

    Love his style ❤️

  • @Anthony-Testicali
    @Anthony-Testicali 2 года назад +1

    Great music! Perfect...!

  • @JustTreyB
    @JustTreyB 3 года назад +8

    Hercules Himself

  • @Beast12
    @Beast12 3 года назад +2

    Very underrated heavy weight he was very talented

  • @Ffeoli1039
    @Ffeoli1039 3 года назад +7

    cross arm gave ali trouble, but it also gave foreman wide open shots for his uppercuts.

  • @jamalashley652
    @jamalashley652 3 года назад +2

    His crossed arm guard looked nice great job

  • @AdoptedPoo
    @AdoptedPoo 2 года назад +34

    he had an insane physique

    • @Parleyposadajr2248
      @Parleyposadajr2248 Год назад +5

      Black Hercules

    • @Only1Kizz
      @Only1Kizz 11 месяцев назад +1

      Black genetics

    • @jovanyserrano7700
      @jovanyserrano7700 6 месяцев назад +1

      He’s a Natural Born Athlete, was a High School and College Football Player, High School Track Runner, US Marine, Amateur and Military Boxer, Professional Boxer, Former World Heavyweight Champion, and Legend

    • @Dempsey1873
      @Dempsey1873 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Only1Kizzoh plz lol

    • @HaraDuran
      @HaraDuran 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jovanyserrano7700black Johnny Sins then

  • @BlueBamboo9
    @BlueBamboo9 2 года назад +1

    I'm currently training in a similar style, but watching this man shows me I have a lot more to learn. By the what, what was the music of choice? I really love it!

  • @morgs456
    @morgs456 3 года назад +7

    Man you got some great music taste. What do you do, hear a track and go " that track suits fighter a" and build a vid from there?
    Another great vid. Cheers

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад +3

      Yeah exactly, I think it makes it more fitting that way rather than trying to find a soundtrack after the fact

    • @morgs456
      @morgs456 3 года назад

      @@hanzagod it's definitely working mate. The same mate that said he wanted to shake your hand for the joe walcott vid, when I showed him your chuvalo vid first thing he said was that track was perfect for chuvalo
      Keep it up!

    • @coimbrahero
      @coimbrahero 3 года назад

      @@hanzagod i think you pick your music very well. like sometimes you put old school boom bap beats on some defense highlights and some more aggressive when its a ko compilation or something. the only thinig i wish is that you make your highlights longer!!

    • @JazzarBizzle2006
      @JazzarBizzle2006 3 года назад

      Name of the instrumental

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  Месяц назад

      @@JazzarBizzle2006 Storm Watkins - 4 Tha Lowriders

  • @randomlyfound9027
    @randomlyfound9027 3 года назад +4

    Ah. So now Dustin Porrier is doing this in Mma. He should pay tribute and give a shoutout to this man 💯

  • @alexshirley1371
    @alexshirley1371 Год назад

    Norton’s style of boxing is so cool to watch. Cross arm guard is so unique and cool, I understand it has its cons but I would still like to see more boxers use it. Yoel Romero just actually used it in his latest MMA with Nemkov. That was pretty neat.

  • @garrison6863
    @garrison6863 3 года назад +3

    The Holmes/Norton fight was a classic. I still think Norton won.

  • @Teshun__tooslickteam2jabs
    @Teshun__tooslickteam2jabs Год назад

    Also known as the crab defense thing i like about the crab defense there is also a opening on your oppenent body shots , hooks , jabs uppercuts , and overhands

  • @lillivercheese9046
    @lillivercheese9046 2 года назад

    I love the style. Was his style similar to the 52 blocks style?

  • @reycesarcarino4653
    @reycesarcarino4653 3 года назад +4

    Norton would have won a gold medal in the olympics, makes no sense why he was rejected from the US team

  • @palereaper
    @palereaper 3 года назад +4

    He’s be champ at cruiserweight today

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 3 года назад

      @Joe, Joichiro good point, he was a bodybuilder before boxing too

    • @thenameofthegame4037
      @thenameofthegame4037 2 года назад

      @@palereaper whut??? He was a marine and football player

  • @MrCottonmouths
    @MrCottonmouths 3 года назад

    Like this better than the shoulder roll

  • @РусланБабоев-ф3н
    @РусланБабоев-ф3н 3 года назад +1

    That music 🎵...

  • @majimamike4097
    @majimamike4097 3 года назад +1

    Great video as always!! I like the cross arm defence but it is vulnerable to uppercuts. Watch the Holyfield-Cooper fight, Cooper was doing good until Holy ripped his cross arm defence with loads of uppercuts.

    • @sherrillraymond7595
      @sherrillraymond7595 7 месяцев назад

      Y'all be trippin all defense is vulnerable to some kind of attack

    • @majimamike4097
      @majimamike4097 7 месяцев назад

      @@sherrillraymond7595 Who said otherwise?

  • @DerrickABrooks
    @DerrickABrooks Год назад

    The thing about that cross guard was it was hard for you to get back offense fast enough

  • @corytclark
    @corytclark 3 года назад +2

    Kenny had a very underrated defense.
    Only some of the most knowledgeable people agree with me, but I’ve always felt that Norton was robbed in his 3rd fight with Ali, and that he should’ve AT LEAST won a close decision.
    Ali danced at times and opened up with flurries, but Norton used his guard to block, duck, slip, or catch Ali’s shots, and then he’d come back with the cleaner, harder, more powerful, and more effective shots.
    Sure Ali definitely had his moments in the fight, but Norton just had way more of those moments where he clearly got the better of things. I had Norton winning the rubber match 10-5, and THE WORST I could’ve had him doing was 8-7.

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад +3

      I agree I do think Norton won that 3rd fight.

    • @gokhansartas9777
      @gokhansartas9777 3 года назад

      Norton lose third match with nose difference. Ali won the match 😉

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад +3

      @@gokhansartas9777 It's all opinion based really. I definitely thought Norton did enough to win.

    • @gokhansartas9777
      @gokhansartas9777 3 года назад

      @@hanzagod dude %80-85 of Nortons hits are just body shoots. Losing the 15th round cost him dearly.I am sure Norton lost just with nose difference. 8-7

    • @gokhansartas9777
      @gokhansartas9777 3 года назад

      @@hanzagod yes! I totally agree with you. Norton was a fierce competitor for pure boxers. Like Muhammad Ali And Larry Holmes etc. But he was very easy for punchers. Even the average puncher, Jose Luis Garcia, destroyed him in the 8th Round.Finally, he was a great boxer. But it wasn't enough for the heavyweight title. Good nights.

  • @domnikmucic8993
    @domnikmucic8993 3 года назад +2

    Song?

  • @leoiannibelli8893
    @leoiannibelli8893 3 года назад

    Wow!

  • @josephcs1.637
    @josephcs1.637 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @thewisetzar5363
    @thewisetzar5363 3 года назад +1

    Did the previous video get deleted?

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад

      This one? ruclips.net/video/sRPjJEuOOC0/видео.html It's still up

  • @Jheijhei-j6s
    @Jheijhei-j6s 3 года назад

    Can you do one Gilbert baptist?

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад

      I'd have to check out some more of his fights if they're available, from the few that I've seen I don't rate him too highly

  • @HatianHurricane
    @HatianHurricane 2 года назад

    That cross-armed defense as you call it is know as 52 hand blocks!!!!

  • @nikolaivista920
    @nikolaivista920 Год назад

    Kenny was amazing. The third fight with Ali was a crime by the judges. Kenny won that night and the entire world saw it. He landed more and controlled most of the rounds. George Foreman said it best: "I don't think Ali ever beat Norton. Ali got two decisions out of them fights, but I don't think Ali ever beat Norton!"

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  Год назад +1

      I definitely agree for the 3rd fight I thought Norton clearly won. I'll give Ali the 2nd.

  • @VersatyleTV1
    @VersatyleTV1 3 года назад

    He could catch punches so easily

  • @colorado2455
    @colorado2455 3 года назад

    Video suggestion: ezzard charles routes to the body.

  • @LobotomyMeat
    @LobotomyMeat 3 года назад

    Anyone know the music details?

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад +3

      Storm Watkins - 4 Tha Lowriders

  • @miketysonnyegeni1131
    @miketysonnyegeni1131 3 года назад +1

    We want Frank Bruno highlights 🙏

    • @alt0799
      @alt0799 3 года назад

      If he does Bruno he has to use the song 'Tough Guy' by The Crystal Method. I think it'd suit him perfectly.

  • @tysonisanobody
    @tysonisanobody 2 года назад

    At 2:04-2:05 which fight and what round was that ?

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  2 года назад +1

      Ken Norton vs Jimmy Young. Don't know the specific round

  • @bryanjones14
    @bryanjones14 2 года назад +1

    Shout out to Tex Cobbs afro !!!

  • @РусланАбудов
    @РусланАбудов 3 года назад

    This man broke Ali jaw

  • @gioa9520
    @gioa9520 3 года назад

    Lo spacca mascella! 🥊🥊💪💪

  • @PatrickHoward-cw3bq
    @PatrickHoward-cw3bq 2 месяца назад

    this was genius becuse leaves no body open or head it better than shoulder roll

  • @adultjames3097
    @adultjames3097 3 года назад

    Music?

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  Месяц назад

      Storm Watkins - 4 Tha Lowriders

  • @RedFeng007
    @RedFeng007 3 года назад

    Archie Moore used that against Rocky. But Rocky outpunch and wear him down eventually.

  • @JohnSharpe888shooter
    @JohnSharpe888shooter 9 месяцев назад

    Ali literally had nightmares bout black hercules always struggled vs power punchers tho

  • @H33t3Speaks
    @H33t3Speaks 3 года назад +1

    Style and chin 🥊
    Not mention an orbital canon for a right.

    • @combatesdeboxeo
      @combatesdeboxeo 3 года назад

      And chin? Lmao. Stupidest comment ever, obviously you don't have any clue about boxing

  • @mdiakite5959
    @mdiakite5959 3 года назад +1

    Imperfect shoulder roll no jutsu

    • @boxeolocopunch762
      @boxeolocopunch762 3 года назад +1

      Its cross arms defense. Not shoulder defense like money

  • @GekkoYT_
    @GekkoYT_ 3 года назад

    I met him in real Life at a bus stop lol

  • @j.c.n9718
    @j.c.n9718 3 года назад

    Handsome brother

  • @richbrake9910
    @richbrake9910 6 месяцев назад +1

    Cross arms cannot stop Big George or Gerry Cooney. They hit too hard.

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  6 месяцев назад

      Norton was far past his prime when he lost to Cooney, as for Foreman yes he lost legitimately and it was a fantastic win for Big George. Don't just point out the failures of a fighters career, Norton had some brilliant performances and his defense was excellent against the likes of Ali and Holmes.

  • @ИгорьТихонов-о2и

    Слава Богу! Здравствуйте! По мне так, великий Али, не выиграл у Нортона, ни вторую, ни третью встречу! Спасибо!

  • @jayblaze7337
    @jayblaze7337 Год назад

    All that's missig I footwork

  • @Theking-es9ie
    @Theking-es9ie 2 года назад

    At 1:28 beautiful!!

  • @stevenclarke8773
    @stevenclarke8773 3 года назад +1

    I love ken but I kind of disagree.i believe he was given bad instruction throughout his career on his defensive style.Cosell and others use to credit him and say he was underated on defense .What?you watch Norton fights and see that nobody got bombarded to the head like him.that cross arm technique is ineffective and ridiculous.you pick off punches better when you have your gloves up in blocking position..

    • @hanzagod
      @hanzagod  3 года назад +3

      I think that's a little unfair, quite a few great fighters used the cross-armed defense just like Norton did. Who did Norton get bombarded by? Foreman, Shavers, Cooney all devastating punchers that did the same thing to other great fighters.

    • @stevenclarke8773
      @stevenclarke8773 3 года назад +2

      @@hanzagod yeah but keep in mind most of the other great fighters that use cross arms were short.Norton was a tall big guy.he also crouched in to punches quite a bit if you watch closely.also cross arms makes it more difficult to go from defense to offense in a more fluid manner.,.don't take me wrong I do like ken ,but I think in general it's best fighters keep their guard up high......just my humble opinion based on my own experience......but maybe for others cross arm can work...thanks for the great channel you have.🙂🤗

  • @eyesomentality3075
    @eyesomentality3075 3 года назад +1

    1st

  • @atvbass10
    @atvbass10 2 года назад +1

    1:02 Ben Askren fighting Norton! Lol

  • @TheGenericAssasin
    @TheGenericAssasin 2 года назад +1

    That cross guard is interesting. Sort of like a tighter Philly shell, first time seeing it highlighted like this.