Messmer's Orb is not weak at all... Even without any Fire Knight seals, I've been doing around 1600-1700 damage with a charged spell. (I used Fire Knight Armor though, to improve it by 5%)
People have been weird with it because you get no hyper armor for the first bit of the spell. But I've also used it to jump over a lot of attacks, both delbritley and accidentally.
@@motivepigeon I agree. I just noticed in PvE that you can avoid attacks that go low to the ground. It leads to pretty cool kills. I feel like it should have some hyper armor too. But it's really good and has a huge area of effect regardless. Great for sneaky kills in PvP
@SZMarcos I think Fromsoft mindset was they didn't want to always rely on hyper armor for spells and were finding alternative ways to avoid damage while still having vulnerability. Otherwise, it would just be the fire version of fortissax Lightning Spear, but with easier ways to buff the damage. Also quick tip; I've been using it a lot with the Impalers spear. The second part of the ashe of war has really good recovery and can actually use messmers orb in substitute of finishing the ashe of war. It uses a lot of fp but it catches a lot of people off gaurd if thier close enough, plus most people expect you to finish the ashe of war so you are given enough time to cast it without being in danger of being hit unless they somehow predict it... which hasn't happened yet.
There are enough ways to make this spell work without hyper armor. Some people are just to lazy to adapt. I like it the way it is 🙂damage really good, uncharged super fast cast speed, full charge speed also very fine.
Wow. Absolute destruction. The fact you got purchase from Rain of Fire as a spacing tool, when it's literally missing a digit from its damage modifier, is legendary. Grats on nearly 4K subs!! This channel is going to blow up.
have a similar build. it's pretty fun, but most invasions end similarly to the first two in the vid: charge messmer's orb, host/phantoms roll bad, boom: invade over. it's fun for a bit, but found myself enjoying other incantations/weapons a bit more for the challenge really like your vids btw- really like your invade style
at 1:30 did the orb do damage to him even while you were in midair? if so that's really interesting, i wonder if you can use this to hit someone when they jump
I think yes! If you read the comments on a certain side so many are disappointed in the spell and ask for a buff haha man it is so good already! People just need to figure out how to use it. I love that you can go down a pretty big slope with it, it doesn't stop the spell.
yes, way better actually when dual wielded at 80 faith. erdtree seal incant scaling is at 353 with 80 faith, fire knight is at 333 with 15% damage at 80 faith , single wield is already slightly better and dual wielding them should put you around 439 incant scaling
You are amazing. But I gotta say, you ran into some of the most idiotic players. Most of the ones I co-op with know how to dodge these. Idk, maybe I was just lucky.
Maybe most of them aren't the most sweatiest players, but the range of a fully charged Messmer's Orb also catches some people off guard, it is pretty big range. 🙂
Psst, the recovery on the second part of the ashe of war has really good recovery, so good I've been using messmers orb instead to finish the combo, as some people are use to the ashe of war and will try to punish the last part, but this spell catches those people.
Seems like a smart combo and you are right, with Messmer's Spear you don't have to go all the way all the time, the initial fire wave also already is a pretty big move 🙂
Hey man I tried your madness build a found a few ways to optimize it further. Insanely fun and good, especially for pve with the poise damage and the overall damage. If you want to try another goofy setup give the priestess heart a try with all the cultess incantations. Basically every single incant one shots
@@candymoon2876 probably, it's perhaps the build which makes it easiest to one shot others Extremely easy with death lightning, even without charging the spell, and ancient dragon lightning
It is definitely viable, I would suggest to put most of the points into dex, the spear will do more damage and you get increased casting time. If you feel the build is to "one sided" you can always mix in some Fire Giant incantations.
I knew someone would be sensitive about it. Look at the coinvader in Limgrave (2v2) - I come to his aid and he leaves me alone. Also I only do this after the invasion is over, so why have hard feelings about it? If you talk about the other coinvader "the judge" and "the jury" then you didn't understand they are friends and this is a setup, they are "dueling" when I join the game and then suddenly my fellow red tries to attack me from behind. He later gets resummoned as cooperator.
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I can't say much about build, but diabolical laughter in every video: 10/10. Love it!
Yeah, the mic ONLY for the evil laughs crack me up every time
Haha thank you 🙂
You might like to know that the Fire Knight Armor increases the damage of Messmer's incantations by 5%.
Messmer set also gives bonus
@@thecommentguy9380 only the helmet does according to fextra, so you could combine the helmet and armor
@@thecommentguy9380 only the helmet, the rest has no passives
Messmer helm, fire knight armor, and Rakshasa boots and gloves for maximum death
Maybe he wants to cosplay point dexter
every time when i search bosses build pvp i look to your videos first cuz your videos are the best
Thank you so much, this really makes me happy! 🙂
my fav elden ring youtuber
Thank you so much 🙂
2:03 most useful rain of fire moment
It's just the hallmark of FromSoft: "let's just mix in some borderline useless spells and items for laughs"
😂😂😂I am a real artist with the spell!
So glad I found your content! I need more inspiration fuel to encourage me to throw myself at the 90th Gank Squad. MAY CHAOS TAKE- you know the rest.
Haha thank you so much 🙂 enjoy your invasions!
15:55 What Happens Inside Kylo Ren's Cross Road Lightsaber 🫠🫠🫠
You really give them the PTSD back 😂
1:57, well that was an awkward result lol
Those triple kills are chef's kiss
Named himself Pontiff Sulyvahn.
Doesn’t even have Rellana’s Twin Blades equipped.
What?
maybe he is waiting to get it form the boss
Messmer's Orb is not weak at all... Even without any Fire Knight seals, I've been doing around 1600-1700 damage with a charged spell. (I used Fire Knight Armor though, to improve it by 5%)
People have been weird with it because you get no hyper armor for the first bit of the spell. But I've also used it to jump over a lot of attacks, both delbritley and accidentally.
@@motivepigeon I agree. I just noticed in PvE that you can avoid attacks that go low to the ground. It leads to pretty cool kills. I feel like it should have some hyper armor too. But it's really good and has a huge area of effect regardless. Great for sneaky kills in PvP
@SZMarcos I think Fromsoft mindset was they didn't want to always rely on hyper armor for spells and were finding alternative ways to avoid damage while still having vulnerability. Otherwise, it would just be the fire version of fortissax Lightning Spear, but with easier ways to buff the damage.
Also quick tip;
I've been using it a lot with the Impalers spear. The second part of the ashe of war has really good recovery and can actually use messmers orb in substitute of finishing the ashe of war. It uses a lot of fp but it catches a lot of people off gaurd if thier close enough, plus most people expect you to finish the ashe of war so you are given enough time to cast it without being in danger of being hit unless they somehow predict it... which hasn't happened yet.
There are enough ways to make this spell work without hyper armor. Some people are just to lazy to adapt. I like it the way it is 🙂damage really good, uncharged super fast cast speed, full charge speed also very fine.
Wow. Absolute destruction. The fact you got purchase from Rain of Fire as a spacing tool, when it's literally missing a digit from its damage modifier, is legendary. Grats on nearly 4K subs!! This channel is going to blow up.
Thanks for your kind words 🙂
That’s fire rasengan
There’s also leaf hurricane on the hand to hand
Rejoice, for Rain of Fire seems to have been buffed massively.
13:12 is just mad
Messmer's smart orb
have a similar build. it's pretty fun, but most invasions end similarly to the first two in the vid: charge messmer's orb, host/phantoms roll bad, boom: invade over.
it's fun for a bit, but found myself enjoying other incantations/weapons a bit more for the challenge
really like your vids btw- really like your invade style
Thank you so much 🙂 and I agree with you, you can only enjoy such a build for so long.
Damn, which means you can utilizes messmer orb really well. You have something most of us really wanted😂
Nice build, I equipped a Fire Knight Shortsword with Fire Spear AoW as my secondary to finish off any runners since the range on it is insane.
It definitely matches the build very well 🙂
the BEST!!!
Thank you 🙂
6:55 bro why was he hiding on the elevator of all places 😭
at 1:30 did the orb do damage to him even while you were in midair? if so that's really interesting, i wonder if you can use this to hit someone when they jump
I think yes! If you read the comments on a certain side so many are disappointed in the spell and ask for a buff haha man it is so good already! People just need to figure out how to use it. I love that you can go down a pretty big slope with it, it doesn't stop the spell.
Let’s go!
Hey, is double fire knight seal better than erdtree seal and fire knight seal?
yes, way better actually when dual wielded at 80 faith.
erdtree seal incant scaling is at 353 with 80 faith,
fire knight is at 333 with 15% damage at 80 faith , single wield is already slightly better and dual wielding them should put you around 439 incant scaling
@@twxxss1 thank you!
It already gotr answered, but yes, it outclasses Erdtree Seal + FKS combo 🙂
You are amazing. But I gotta say, you ran into some of the most idiotic players. Most of the ones I co-op with know how to dodge these. Idk, maybe I was just lucky.
Maybe most of them aren't the most sweatiest players, but the range of a fully charged Messmer's Orb also catches some people off guard, it is pretty big range. 🙂
Psst, the recovery on the second part of the ashe of war has really good recovery, so good I've been using messmers orb instead to finish the combo, as some people are use to the ashe of war and will try to punish the last part, but this spell catches those people.
Seems like a smart combo and you are right, with Messmer's Spear you don't have to go all the way all the time, the initial fire wave also already is a pretty big move 🙂
Nice video brou Messmer is my favorite boss of the dlc keep up the good work mightguy.
Well i wish you can do a video and invade as Dane 👊🦵.
Thank you 🙂 Let's see,his "playstyle" is not my favourite but I prolly have an idea what do mix it with so it is fun to me 🙂
@rabbitsinthemoon9183 Yeah I see keep the good work 👏 bro 💪 hope to see more of your insane builds.
Hope to see some day Dane buid 👊
Hey man I tried your madness build a found a few ways to optimize it further. Insanely fun and good, especially for pve with the poise damage and the overall damage.
If you want to try another goofy setup give the priestess heart a try with all the cultess incantations. Basically every single incant one shots
The Priestress Heart Dragon Cult video already exists 🙂 thanks for watching!
Can you please do a bow build? Using the new storm talisman?
It's already difficult enough to play PvE with bow-only builds. PvP would be much harder.
Never played a bow build before and probably won't happen too, sorry :( just not to thrilled about it.
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 ah that's a shame but like the vids I try copy your builds for PvP lol
@@Qualitystreet77 I hope you enjoy them as much as I do 🙂
@@rabbitsinthemoon9183 I do very much the latest death build you done is so much fun hard to pull off but very fun indeed
Btw, how about a holy build centered in Euporia? It has been buffed now too
Yeah, I will definitely do a build with it but I have to be careful not to be to saturated on holy builds haha 🙂
What is your most efficient(not just fun) build? I saw that you used lightning build for revenge toxic players 2 months ago, so it's lightning build?
@@candymoon2876 probably, it's perhaps the build which makes it easiest to one shot others
Extremely easy with death lightning, even without charging the spell, and ancient dragon lightning
That would either be Dragon Cult or also Dragon Communion 🙂
How many Rune arcs do you have at this point
I always discard them when I reach 99, but it would be a looooooot🙂
Morning
Could you tell me if lvl 200 is viable for this build or too high?
It is definitely viable, I would suggest to put most of the points into dex, the spear will do more damage and you get increased casting time. If you feel the build is to "one sided" you can always mix in some Fire Giant incantations.
26:33 Ok 👍👍
9:25 poor souls :')
Hey are you playing on pc or console?
Hello! I play on pc with m&k.
Que build é essa jovem?😅
A que trás de volta memórias traumáticas
I find the female death sounds so funny
screenshotting this one for any potential jury duty in the near future
@@pawnshop_ghost I am just now realizing how psychopathic that sounded 😂. I'm not I promise
Man, rain of fire is so ass, the damage, the aoe is all over the place and doesn't even go behind walls. Burn o flame is better.
Is there a way to make Rain of Fire not suck ass? 😂
Absolutely not 🙂
Why must you kill your co invader 😢 great work otherwise tho
I knew someone would be sensitive about it. Look at the coinvader in Limgrave (2v2) - I come to his aid and he leaves me alone. Also I only do this after the invasion is over, so why have hard feelings about it? If you talk about the other coinvader "the judge" and "the jury" then you didn't understand they are friends and this is a setup, they are "dueling" when I join the game and then suddenly my fellow red tries to attack me from behind. He later gets resummoned as cooperator.
Rain of fire being a 10/10 spell as usual /s
Why release dogshit spells man... Just don't make them, saves time and money.