Solomonster Reacts To Why John Cena Torched Austin Theory On Raw
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- Solomonster reacts to John Cena returning on WWE Raw last Monday and TORCHING Austin Theory on the microphone, the pros and cons of some of the things he said and why it all but gave away the finish of their Wrestlemania match for the US title.
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I find it hilarious that he basically mentioned the crowd reaction being manipulated by the “fake” noise yet, WWE themselves did the same thing for Cena during his run.
“Wherever Cena goes, he gets a reaction good or bad.” Same situation just different ways of doing it.
The funny thing is they did pipe in fake noise during Cena's era. There were so many examples where they'd show big PPV matches where Cena got booed out of the building, yet the replays or the match highlights always added cheers for him. So is he really the one to talk. Don't get me started on Roman or how they used to lower the mics during his WM entrances to try to hide the boos for so many years. WWE has been doing this forever. Theory is hardly an exception.
“Wherever Cena goes, he gets a reaction.” That’s what they always said back then, so they definitely added artificial crowd reactions for Cena during his run.
I actually liked the promo right until the end where Cena all but undermined an eventual Theory win saying it won't mean anything because Theory won't be able to carry the torch. That's what always hated about Cena, the fact he can't elevate anybody and conceding a defeat, because he always has to come up on top either on the ring or verbally. He should have said that to prove that he truly belongs Theory needs to beat him fair and square, so he would have upped the stakes for their WM match. Instead what Cena did is sabotaging another future star like he always did for 20 years
A golden shovel moment or Cena speking facts?
Do you like Triple H? He was far worse than Cena.
Not really. Roman Reigns improved vastly on the mic after Cena buried him in that one promo. This is Cena's way of bringing out the best in people. Perhaps this promo will light a fire under Theory and he'll improve on the mic as well.
@@Neethan3247They’re about the same, honestly. But I’ll give Hunter a little bit of credit-the few times he put someone over, he put them ALL THE WAY over. Batista, John Cena, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Seth Rollins. He went out of his way to make sure to make those guys properly. He passed the torch a bunch of times.
Cena can’t really say that. He rarely ever lost clean, and even when he did, he would embarrass his opponent beforehand on the mic. It’s like his ego would not allow him to let someone just get the better of him for the sake of business.
It's just Cena speaking facts so far from what he's seen of theory when in reality he's the one that kept wanting to wrestle theory and put him over
My issue with what Cena does is he just breaks the 4th wall an brings up shit live TV that breaks suspension of disbelief. If 2 ppl go on TV with a script an pre approved talking points an you purposely stray from that an bring up real life shit of course you make the other guy look dumb. Usually the guy going against Cena wouldn't be allowed that same freedom anyway. Also Cena losing the match after doesn't really matter because what most ppl remember years later is the promo battle. Him shooting on Rock, Roman, Dean, now Theory etc.
Yep this exactly. Cena knows the other person goes nt have the leeway and pull to do this kind of stuff and then all people remember is cena burying the other guy. This type of “promo” never helps anybody cena buries buries more with his shovel than triple h did
@@Corvy952lol the same excuse
Damn....sounds like MJF....sounds like cm punk
@@XxPlatinumChief Yes and no. Punk and MJF do worked shoots. The other guy knows about it beforehand. There’s nothing wrong with bringing a little realism into a promo, done right it makes it better.
What is NOT okay, which is what Cena does a lot and what Triple H used to do, is going offscript and just shooting without telling your opponent first. That confuses the guy you’re working with and it puts them in an awkward position of having to stay on script to salvage the promo, or else they get in trouble. Cena can’t get in trouble; Theory can. When you go offscript, that’s uncool, rude and unprofessional, which is why it’s frowned upon.
@@Jeff_Pryce and which is why cena got booed for years
The Austin Theory character has hit its ceiling, much like Cena's did before he picked up the rapping gimmick; Theory gets the win at WM, but he needs to parlay that into a new gimmick.
Otherwise he's the same guy, with the same ceiling, who just happened to beat Cena in a match.
Looking back at the career of Cena, I remember when I started watching wrestling in 03 (only Smackdown because we didn't have cable), he was extremely hot until he got drafted to Raw. After that, the character never changed, he became supercena. Just that period from 08 going forward was so boring save for Punk vs Cena.
This is definitely just Stage 1 of this build. I can see Theory cutting an emotional promo before WrestleMania about how he wants to make a name for himself and the best way to do it would be to beat his childhood hero at the biggest show of the year. It’s not going to be as intense of a heel vs childhood hero feud as CM Punk/MJF but I can see them tapping into the same emotions.
I’m glad you brought up the fact that Cena out performed The Rock back during their feud. As a loyal Attitude Era fan, I didn’t want to believe it back then. But looking back at those exchanges now, it was clear that Rock was just taking cheap jabs and Cena’s gimmick while Cena hit Rock where it hurts.
Agreed! I didn’t want to admit it back then either but Cena got one over on the rock..
@@davidnelson4347 Cena incorporated much more storytelling and substance in his promos while Rock was more focused on cheap fruity pebble jabs. CM punk said if best. Dwayne was throwing cheap shots while Punk was swinging for the fences.
The problem was that The Rock never evolved. He went with what worked back then. And that was an issue because wrestling can't go backwards. What worked then doesn't really work now.
Cena's material was more modern and so when you look back at it in hindsight you can tell Rock lost a lot of steps on the mic and Cena knew that and was able to pounce on it.
Another example of Rock being extremely outdated was the Punk feud. Punk had all these legitimate gripes and burns on Rock. And all Rock had in response was "Cookie Puss"
Nah, you're wrong. Rock was clearly better
Cena def destroyed the rock it wasn't even close
After that promo on Monday, I would have Theory squash Cena just to piss people off
Been a while since Cena buried someone.
I had another thought while watching that segment: If Velveteen Dream wasn't being Textateen Dream, then he would be in the same spot that Austin Theory right now: a champion going into Wrestlemania feuding with the one and only John Cena.
A veteran in 2002 and early 2003 could've said the exact same thing about John Cena and he still had a pretty decent career I think so let's calm down a little bit with this burial promo, it might light a fire under Theory's backside and be more motivated than he ever was to be a top guy
I can't get into this. Cena winning makes no sense, but I really don't see Theory as a guy worthy of this match right now. Its not like he's on the cusp of breaking out. He's not really that over. It just feels a bit too soon or even forced. Its like if in 2003 they had Hulk Hogan put over Renee Dupree at WM. I'm just not feeling this. Maybe Theory is better off losing, having a good 2023 and then facing Cena again next year in a rematch.
exactly Grayson, Carmelo and Bron are more ready n charismatic
No, Theory kinda needs this. They’re clearly grooming him for big things, and for that, he needs big wins.
Theory is sort of where Randy Orton was in early 2004. He had potential, but needed Mick Foley to take him to the next level. Cena could be Theory’s Mick Foley moment.
@@Jeff_Pryce He needs big wins so just start him off with one of the biggest wins ever? Hell, why not just have him go over Roman Reigns instead? This is wrestling's booking equivalent of artificial inflation. You can't just give Theory this win and go "here, we have the next John Cena". The biggest match of Cena's early career was a TV loss to Kurt Angle and people still talk about it.
@@MPOMusic88Well, yeah. That’s how wrestling works. When Undertaker had just one year under his belt, he beat Hogan for the title. When Lesnar was coming up, he beat the Rock with just six months of main roster experience. When Orton was coming up, they gave him wins over Shawn Michaels, once the face of the company.
Young stars get the rub from old stars, that’s how you pass the torch and build the future. Theory needs work, definitely, and he’s not ready for Roman (yet), but him getting a win over a 16-time champion would be a positive step in his development.
Theory has got what it takes, other than a little more experience in the ring. He just needs that special gimmick because his creative has kinda hit the wall. I'm hoping they'll parlay this into Austin cutting a heartfelt promo that turns into an angry rant, and goes on to win at WM, then uses that win to take on a new gimmick.
I feel like that's what could catapult him.
Cena talking about them “pumping in crowd noise” is pretty ironic considering the WWE had to edit and mute the crowd noise for a decade when his boring ass was getting booed out of the building.
@@MotoGearSolid 👋👋👋👋
Yeah people have there rose tinted glasses on now for cena because he is legend an hes not there all the time so when he does turn up people appreciate an it's nostalgia at this point. but he was a guy who caused people to actively stop watching the shows for years because of how much he was pushed over everyone else an is probaly a big reason why ratings declined an the fans would boo the hell out of him in the arenas
@@MotoGearSolid i never liked him either, but the problem was that WWE(mainly Vince) wanted to push him, and even though fans didn't like him they still booed him and still reacted to him. That's a big part of the problem. If fans don't like someone they're still giving them a reaction by booing. If you truly don't like this person and don't want to see them then the best response is no response. Ignore them and give them nothing. But Cena and Roman still got reactions one way or the other and WWE crammed them down our throats even further. By giving reactions you feed fuel to their fire. I didn't cheer Cena, i didn't boo him, i simply ignored him. I didn't like him then and while i can respect the things he's accomplished i'm still not a fan.
Perhaps he's speaking from experience 🤣
@@MotoGearSolid who cares just like cena said in the promo like u clowns here same old toxic haters here whining like babies here !
When Cena was comparing Austin to himself during Ruthless Aggression Era, I thought Austin was gonna slap Cena in face just like Cena did Kurt Angle on Smackdown in 2002
I hate Cena promos - he doesn't stay in character and has that smug look on his face all the time when the opponent is cutting their promo.
He placates to the crowd with the usual "whether they cheer me or whether they boo me" stick. He's not that great a promo.
Theory was in character and no doubt memorising 180 essay for a promo.
shut up hater
Yeah, I never liked that, either.
Cena is very difficult to like because he comes across as unlikable, unrelatable and smug. People just lick up most of his stuff because he is very good at marketing the fake working man image with buzzwords like “Hustle, Loyalty and Respect” and “Never Give Up”.
When you use those words, his character should be a humble but tough guy, someone who doesn’t see himself above anyone else but will fight anyone at anytime. He can still have his zingers, just maintain the humble aspect of a working man. Instead, he comes across as “Hollywood” he smirks all the time and usually comes across as arrogant, sanctimonious, condescending, and imperious. He gives off heavy douchebag energy. He would have been a perfect heel in the last 10 years with that vibe, honestly.
And his usual comeback whenever people insult him is “That’s the same thing I heard from everyone else, be original, that’s low hanging fruit.” But MJF said it best: “When enough people start saying the same thing, is it really low hanging fruit…or is it just that the truth hurts?”
This age real well
Cena has been burying young talent for over 15 years.
RIP The Nexus.
Theory is great and people care about him. His title reign would be hated if he wasn’t cared about. I think they just did this to build up the “ theory is an underdog and he’s not ready “ narrative. Everyone knows he’s the future and he’s the best 25 and under prospect in wrestling and his potential is limitless we all know this but this promo is meant to make you think maybe he’s not.
@@leir2005 this simply isn’t true, as someone who has went to house shows and tv tapings where theory performed I will tell u he gets reactions he’s a good heel and there is no way him winning the chamber would have co main evented if he wasn’t cared about. Not to mention that he main evented dozens of house shows against rollins in a steel cage match and he sold several of those house shows out , and I don’t wanna hear “ they sold out because of rollins” this just isn’t true because even when rollins main evented house shows In 2021 almost none of them sold out. Rollins was 65% of why they sold out but theory definitely sold some tickets . He’s a hot commodity who people wanna see and people care about simple as that, he wouldn’t be able to hold the title this long if people didn’t care .
Well now this age well
This is not the first time Theory got buried on the mic. Kevin Owens buried him before on Raw when he gave that harsh motivation promo. Roman Reigns also buried Theory when Roman did a promo on him saying, "Daddy isn't here anymore."
And here we are almost a year later, Theory is nothing
That’s funny coming from Cena. Over 3 million people stopped watching wrestling because his run at the top. WWE was practically begging people to like John Cena for a decade. They buried countless people because they were getting better face reactions than.
The promo was good, but everyone talks about pumped in crowd noises. We’ve been talking about that since they left the thunder dome.
I think Theory will be a made man after Mania.
Let's hope so, because I could care less about him right now.
Austin Theory is 📺 = 😴 💤 🛏 😪 🛌
@@DJReyzor357 So you say.
I hoping so too cuz I like Theory and I think he has potential and can become a huge star in that company. He still needs to have some kind of come back in his next promo on Raw tonight.
Theory is Vince McMahon's teacher's pet. Nobody will take him seriously if being pushed to the moon. He's a Vince McMahon guy.
Honestly if Theory wins Cena should be likes 'You win and then what, his long can you stay on top. You beat the biggest, baddest dog in the yard...you got a target on your back. You've been lucky thus far. At Wresltemaina we'll see what you're made up.'
Cena was nowhere near better than the Rock on the Mic. Did he appear to get the upper hand? Objectively yes, but not because he was "better" but because he not only went off script he called out things that were part of them working.
Calling out the Rock for promo notes and pointing out the company piping in crowd noise is NOT great mic skills. It's killing the suspension of disbelief for a cheap pop and yes it buries the company AND his opponent.
People that can cut a promo on someone and not step outside the worked environment of the promo have great mic skills. Cena is good on the Mic, but it's easy to get one over on someone when they're playing by the rules of a worked promo and you're stepping outside of the worked promo to bury them and make them look silly, knowing they probably haven't prepared to do so against you.
What was Austin Theory supposed to say that wouldn't run down the company OR run down the credibility of the person that is the ratings booster and undercutting the importance of his match?
Why do people ignore that breaking the 4th wall to insult your opponent whose maintaining a worked promo buries the other person??? It's the verbal equivalent of punching someone for real to get yourself over because they throw good worked punches. Unprofessional
THANK YOU. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills the way people let Cena get away with these awful promos because "Guys ,he said something real life we fans know
@@Dude4Realz12
The worst part about it is he is really charismatic and good enough to cut promos without burying his opponent and going outside of a worked promo.
I think he's a cool person. Seems nice enough, but I hate his wrestling persona and what he's not only allowed to get away with but praised for doing.
@@davidberry3738 exactly why he annoys me so much. If Cena was an average or below average promo, I can understand why he'd lean on this style of promo so much to hide weaknesses.
But hes so powerful on the mic and I find it a shame he chooses to go this lazy route a lot of the times. Especially times when it does nothing for the opponent/feud because they're too busy looking stupid talking in kayfabe lol
There was a way to school Theory on the mic while creating an engaging story. I'm in the minority though so I won't pretend many didn't love the promo. I just wish he'd be more creative within kayfabe.
I have to agree. Cena has enough talent and charisma where he doesn’t need to do that bush league crap to bury his opponent the way he does going offscript and breaking 4th wall.
The fact that he feels like he has to do that is rather sad. There’s a right way to do that and a wrong way. When you look at some of the other greats on the mic-Ric Flair, the Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, CM Punk, Hogan, Roddy Piper, etc-they always put over their opponent somehow as a credible threat, a reason why people should watch their match at the PPV.
Cena does the opposite. He acts like people will just pay to watch him,so it doesn’t matter if his opponent looks good or bad, it’s not his concern, when in fact, it should be because he should be selling the fans a PPV fight, not his own hype. Triple H sometimes did that, too, and I wasn’t a fan of that, either.
Fans pull the "burial" thing solely based on who is doing it and who they do it to. If say Rhea said those same things to Charlotte that noone cares about her or the company is piping in fake noise during her segments, everyone will cheer. But if Charlotte said that to Rhea instead, it's instantly a "burial". There's little consistency when it comes to that, here it will only be a burial if Cena squashed Theory at Mania after this segment. Then you'd know for sure who is back in charge.
Duh because you can’t bury someone if you’re beneath them in the heirarchy. If you’re a top guy and you’re already over and you use your position to go out and make your opponent look bad that’s a burial.
@@haadtheevision So that means Roman Reigns has buried every single opponent he had because he treated all of them like they didn't deserve to be in the same ring as him and then beat them in all the matches? Yeah I don't know about that. A burial is hurting someone's credibility to the point where the audience can't take them seriously again. Basically the issue that Bray Wyatt used to have for all those years.
@@KalvinEllis When has Roman gone out of his way to make fun of someone’s gimmick?
@@haadtheevision I didn't say he did, I gave you your logic back. Roman treated many of his rivals like insignificant jabronies who had no business being in the same ring as him, he even treated Seth like that when he called him a clown who was wasting his time and then choked him out and beat him with a chair at the Rumble. Someone can easily call that a "burial" when it wasn't.
Cena is a horrible promo. Amazing mic skills, but a terrible promo. A true promo cutter will put himself AND his opponent over to PROMOTE the match. That's why I love Paul Heyman and The Rock. Paul Heyman on some occasions will even spend the entire promo big talking his client's opponent with lines like "you've done this... you've been there, you've accomplished that... but you haven't beaten him." All that does is big up the match and even get you excited for a match you didn't care about before. The Rock digs his opponent all the time, but he will also sell a lot and say lines like "Did that hurt the Rock when you did xyz? You're damn right it hurt the Rock.... yeah you... you've beaten this guy, that guy, you had the crowd roaring, I've seen you climb in your career for years... but you can't beat the Rock."
THAT is how you put over talent. You have to give a bit to sell the match. People like Heyman, Jericho, Rock, Austin, even the damned Big Evil Undertaker do.
Ric Flair was also a master at this. Yeah, he had hilarious lines like “my alligator shoes cost more than your house!”, but he would also say “But seriously, you are great. You’re one of the premier young talents in the business today, you’re a contender, you’re the future of this sport…but you ain’t gonna beat Slick Ric for this title, WOO!” 😆 He HAD to do that because he was the biggest star in a smaller promotion. If he made his opponents look good, he could talk people into the building and pay to see them.
Cena lost sight of that. He acts like people will pay just to see HIM, so it doesn’t matter if his opponent looks good or not. That’s a very selfish and shortsighted way to do business.
This does make a lot of sense though 🎯
Austin Theory got destroyed like The Rock did Billy Gunn leading to their 1999 WWF SummerSlam match.... 😤 💨 🌬
The way I view that promo is a little bit different than how other people saw it, to me it was classic Cena, a few years ago John Cena cut the exact same promo on Roman Reigns only to put him over and that's exactly what he's going to do for Austin Theory at WrestleMania, and to me that little dig at Austin about him not being able to carry on that momentum is just Cena's way of motivating him because Cena knows he won't be around after WrestleMania and if he's going to put over this guy he wants this guy to take advantage of it, so while other people look at it as a burial I simply look at it as a passing of the torch and I cannot wait for the raw after WrestleMania where Austin Theory comes out and tells everybody i-told-you-so which is exactly what John Cena's promo was design to do.
It was for a reason. This story is about theory getting himself to the next level an everything cena said was true. The fans are not fully beliving in theory yet because he hasn't done anything to convince them otherwise an cena let him know that so this is a big moment for austin theory to show people if he can be something in the wwe an he should be one of the future guys they fully invest in
So what’s Cenas excuse? Adult fans stopped liking cena in 2005 why was he still giving opportunities after opportunities when Cena isn’t even a good wrestler
Theory suffers from same thing Drew McIntyre did when he was the “chosen one”. Having Vince on screen vouch for you kills your organic momentum.
I haven't seen the promo but this does sound bad for Theory by the sounds of it. However, people who criticize Cena should also criticize Hogan, Triple H, and HBK. None of them seem to do that at all.
Zelina as the anime to wrestling interpreter is amusing.
I was thinking Cena wins, and then Theory goes Chris Jericho crazy with a hammer to Chyna's hand. Cena can't defend the title, because of the beating from Theory. Then Cena comes for revenge at Summer Slam, but Theory wins.
He made Austin Theory look like a Clown and didn't give him a sliver of Possible Crediblity. with Roman,Roman had at least been to the dance Once and Cena said " they gave you the ball but you haven't stepped up" with Theory John just pretty much called him a child and Dismissed him. Unless you're Stone Cold Steve Austin no babyface should be THAT rude
I wish people would stop comparing the two. Austin doesn't rap, wear rings ,necklaces, hats. One Hulk Hogan not Ultimate Warrior. One Ric Flair. One Rock. All had their time. Work on building up current and future wrestlers.
wwe likes to make Cena seem like such a big star..but in his time as the face of the company wwe lost a large proportion of its audience..btw maybe Theory should answer Cena in mandarin...
It’s revisionist history my friend, I was in middle school to high school during his peak & I hated the characters’ guts ever since. So whenever I see fans say “He’s the goat, he’s the best, we miss you” it’s complete BS, cause during those times he was resented by the fans. Due to his booking by the old turd himself: Vinnie Mac.
They lost alot of people due to the deaths in the business and because the product was pg
LA is a tourist destination. Raw after Mania should be madness this year. Disagree with Solo there
The Rock was better than Cena on the mic during their feud (2011-2013) except for one night. Breaking kayfabe and grinning nonstop doesn’t mean he out performed the Rock.
Rock's insults got Cena endorsed by Fruity Pebbles. Rock wins via super cereal fatality.
Honestly, the ONLY person I saw that hung with Cena maybe even bested him on the mic was punk
This promo sounds heelish as hell 🤣🤣
I was watching the Rock/Cena segments on a binge about 2 weeks ago and yes, Cena destroyed the Rock in almost every promo battle. You will never see the Rock angrier towards a person than D’Wayne Johnson was in the ring with Cena. The crowds just hated Cena so much at that point they booed everything he said and cheered everything the Rock said. He is one of the top 3 best promo cutters on the mic during a feud I believe.
Doesn’t matter; the crowd is the ultimate judge.
If they cheer everything the other guy says while they boo you out of the building, you could be dropping early 2000s Eminem diss tracks and you would still be considered the loser of that battle.
The only thing that fans came away with after those segments was the fact that there is no replacement for The Rock, and John Cena despite his mega push still couldn’t fill The Rock’s shoes. That’s why the match was so big, it was a question of who’s the better generation.
Name 1 great Cena promo where he isn’t talking about backstage shit or breaking kayfabe
John Cena getting booed had nothing to do with The Rock, the fans were already doing it. Rock said what the fans already hated Cena for : the rainbow colored shirts, the happy go lucky milquetoast character and the fact that he was marketed for kids etc. This had been going on since 2007 or 08 so when Rock came back, it was already a criticism of Cena for years at that point.
Rock won the promo battle. Proof?? His Fruity Pebbles insults led to Fruity Pebbles endorsing Cena.
@@nickhughes8179 That doesn’t mean the fruity pebbles diss wasn’t still great
As if Cena ever _had_ a step _to_ lose in the ring.
Cena burying Theory in that segment is even more hilarious now considering that Cena showed up to Mania with his bald spot, lack of muscle definition or tan and put in house show effort, AND Theory still couldn’t rise to the occasion! Theory will never beat those total zero/industry plant allegations, lol
I personally thought the money match was Cena vs. Gabbie Tuft.
Cena wasn't wrong tho. Theory has been booked like a geek for the past couple of years.
-Losing to Pat McAfee at Mania, who would then go on to lose 70 plus year old Vince McMahon
-Losing the US Title multiple times and not establishing a solid run like Gunther
-The MITB fiasco where he failed the cash in
-And not really having any dominant wins or solid fueds
Beating Cena will mean nothing in the long term because Theory isn't pushed as a top guy. Until he gets a win streak going after Mania, this match may as well be a bathroom break.
Thoroughly enjoyed seeing that verbal shellacking. Don't care about the match much though.
Still didn't answer why he did it though
I'm thinking or thought it was something personal that happened like he might have 'disrespected' Cena or some shyt. And Cena decided to verbally torch him.
I guess people forgot that time in history when the sweetest spoon of sugar couldn't get fans to stomach John Cena. A time when the more people booed him the more he was pushed. I'm quite sure he's the reason WWE started piping in fake crowd cheers. From day one I, and I'm quite sure many other, have never liked John Cena as a wrestler. Not that I care for Austin Theory that much but it would make zero sense for John Cena to win this match.
who cares he can wrestle fk the people who think he can't just a bunch of clowns end of day
Oh yeah. I remember when WWE had to make up an excuse for the half-chers and half-boos that Cena got: “You either love him or you hate him, but at least you’re reacting to him.” 😆 They bent over backwards to get him to stay over as the face of the company. He basically set the table that Roman is eating off of now for polarizing top guys.
@@Jeff_Pryce who cares toxic hater keep crying !
@@Jeff_Pryce well Roman is the head of the table, he never claimed to have built it lol
Cena only goes over the line when it;s with people he knows cant fight back. The first time I saw him do it was with AJ Styles. He used to brutalize him on the mic. Then Roman, now Theory. But when it was CM Punk or Bray Wyatt he wouldn't dare pull that shit.
To add to what solo was saying about roman having more mania main events than cena... well During CENA's run as the top guy, there were more Main even level superstars. You had taker still, there, Edge, Orton, Brock, Batista, HHH was still wrestling regulatly, Benoit, bbokert, gldberg, jbl, the miz, Eddie, bryan, Punk, sheamus, rvd, ambrose, del rio, big show, jericho, bray wyatt, kane, rey mysterio, hbk and mark henry . Who do you really have now, Cody is gonna be made at mania, seth, Roman, Brock, Lashley (although he didn't get the years of protection to not get exposed on the mic like brock lesnar did). I could include sheamus and mcintyre but they've dropped down to feud for the midcard title. Rey's retiring, edge is part time, wyatt is stuck is lost in his own universe, and Miz is just Miz. Since there are less main event level talent it makes sense roman has had more mania main events. Cody will be the guy that make's the other wreestles shine. As a baby face he can be more vulnerable instead of the monster heel roman is. He may win the match but he'll make others look more credible in the loss.
What if on RAW, Theory comes out and brags about beating the unbeatable John Cena, then gets interrupted by Jay White and start their feud for the US belt.
If Theory wins, I can definitely see him brag about the win post-wrestle mania raw and then does a U.S. Open challenge after. Jay White comes out to accept and takes the title from Theory.
@@rtm614 yep, i can totally see this happening.
I say that what happen to Roman 3 years after his 2017 promo with Cena in 2020, I feel Thoery will be shaped the same, give him time.
Based Cena
This promo was great John Cena should win the US title I keep forgetting that Austin Theory is US champion and I Laughed at the fake crowd noise line by John Cena that was great I really enjoyed the Cody Rhodes and John Cena interaction that was awesome.
That's the problem with the roman reigns era nobody else has been booked even close to him he is about to main event his seventh mania even john cena has five and undertaker has five(since roman didn't want to work that show) the rock and stone cold only had four.
Other guys have also main evented once at that time like batista and edge who normally remembers ah styles and Kevin owens have main evented a mania but they don't feel like bigger stars at least like three notches down roman reigns where as in previous generations it was much closer
John was actually making fun of himself when he was dissing Theory. 😂 The fact that WWE has to pipe in fake crowd noise because nobody cares about Theory, was actually the same thing they did to Cena because half of the audience members couldn't stand him at the time. Oh and the fact that Theory has the potential to be a star, but nobody cares ? Let's not forget that Cena almost got fired when he first showed up in 2002, with that boring Ruthless Aggression character before that wannabe Vanilla Ice street rapper gimmick saved his career.
Cena went to business for himself
I feel like if you can survive getting cooked by John Cena, you're good. You're in there
Say what you want about Cena's wrestling ability, but there's no doubt Cena is top 10 on the mic all time!
Probably top 5 honestly
IDK..
@@kidcuidi1 WWE-Drone SHILL
Fuck no he’s absolutely garbage. Breaking kayfabe and 4th wall doesn’t make you a great mic worker
1. Jim Cornette
2. Paul Heyman
3. Ravishing Rick Rude
4. Stone Cold Steve Austin
5. The Rock
6. Shane Douglas
7. Tazz
8. Dusty Rhodes
9. Ric Flair
10. Jake "The Snake" Roberts
When are they going to put the title on Cena? He’s 45 now for crying out loud. because it’d just be flat out silly for him to retire a 16x world champion, even if it’s just a token one day reign, Cena needs to win #17. And Flair should be there to hand John the belt…but Cena spits in Flair’s face then gives him an AA and then proceeds to celebrate as the crowd goes crazy.
Need? 😆 Nah. We don’t need to see that shit. It wouldn’t make any sense to give him the title now. When Roman loses, he should lose to the guy who can be the next big babyface of the future. Cena is not the future, he’s the past. It would make even less sense for him to beat Cody or whoever the top guy is who beats Roman. Cena had his chance at 17, he lost. Thanks for coming, John, back to Hollywood you go.
Why bring cena back if he’s just gonna bury people. People still talk about when he buried reigns. And yes reigns was boring then but it’s bc he was given a boring script with a boring character. Cena himself was the same lifeless boring character that wwe had to edit in cheers bc no one liked his character and he had go away heat during the super cena era. & no that promo did not help roman. Roman got over years later when he was given the go ahead to be more of himself and got to go heal being more charismatic and allowing his own personality to shine through. Theory doesn’t have that luxury he’s still forced to read the scripts given to Im unlike a cena or reigns and cena knows this and unfairly used that against them knowing he won’t get punished but theory would if he tried. This is just overall an asshole thing to do and it really makes you wonder why cena was ever Portrayed as a babyface when he’s just such an a hole
He's borrowing HHH's golden shovel
who cares toxic hater all just a bunch of crybabies and clowns in fact
John Cena bury people every time his on TV the only one who couldn’t bury was CM Punk
Not true at all
Does that also go for guys like Edge, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Daniel Bryan and even Rob Van Dam?
@@Daniel-zp2pi Exactly but people never like to mention those parts
And the Rock.
Really, they’re the only two people who could go punch for punch with Cena on the mic. (Though I bet he’d have a hard time trying to bury Stone Cold Steve Austin; the crowd would just “What?” Cena to death halfway through the promo. 😆)
And yes Cena got the rock so much that you could tell he was flustered. See he was used to cutting promos with backstage guys like Kelly, coach, Cole, and Garcia. So he could easily spew catchphrases but when it got down to one on one he didn't do too well. Having said that, calling Big show the big slow while singing his promo. AND the rock concerts were classic
Cena burned the rock
Sadly cena will lose. How will he have time to defend the US title?? Everyone knows John is losing.... again.
How is it sad? Cena has won plenty over the last 2 decades. He’s got 16 world titles, five or six US titles, tag team gold and he had a boatload of Wrestlemania moments.
Losing won’t hurt him. It’s about giving back to the business that made him.