There's nothing quite like the nostalgia of an awesome AwardBIOS 'beep' every time you turn on the computer. The fact that the EPA logo was changed is a bit of a frowny face, but I guess you can't win them all. I guess since my first computer had an AwardBIOS, that's why I'm much more partial to them than especially AMI. The first beep was very satisfying to hear and for some reason, AMI's sounded slightly different in pitch.
GOD I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SOOOO MUCH!!!!!!! i just needed to get that out. your videos make me so happy everytime i see a new one! thanks for making awesome videos!
I have an old Hewlett-Packard Pavilion f70 flat panel monitor manufactured in August of 2002 with 5567 hours on the back light and it still runs like the day it came out of the packaging. The built in speakers work awesome, too.
Bill, I'm seriously considering making a playlist of all your Kitchen table electronics repair, and some other electronic repair videos. Is that ok with you?
THIS GUY IS SMART! I think the OS was Ubuntu 10.04 I'm not sure 8:03 - How come old PCs had actual a PC speaker in them, but I know some business class desktops have a actual speaker built-in.
@MixerVM The capacitors next to the processor are usually 6.5 volts. Old processors like a 286 or 386 could run without any cooling at all, and just the power supply fan was fine to keep air moving. But pretty much anything from a Pentium on up will burn completely out rather quickly without any cooling, and the fans in the case help the processor fan by keeping cool air going through the case, so the processor isn't just getting hot air blown on it.
Bill, when you remove caps from a MB, it is best to put a small bead of fresh solder on the old solder points and let it act like a heat transfer between the iron and the old solder points. You can then rock the caps out back and forth. THis extra solder makes it a lot easier for a solder sucker to remove that bead when you are done. Sometimes you might have to add another bead before you suck it out.
I have an aopen computer branded as Advanced Logic Systems with the same case as this one running an athlon 1800+ and it doesn't have those rear exhaust fans or the front intake fan so it runs really hot. It still runs though but crashes on programs quite often so I need to find fans that fit those 2 rear vents but they don't appear to be a standard size fan
I have found that I needed a fairly hot iron for mainboard work. Most modern ones are 4 or 6 layers, and the layers act as heatsinks, so they won't take any solder if you use the light-duty irons. I have about 20 Samsung monitors of similar vintage at work with the same power supply problems. All have bad caps. Faulty electrolyte formula copied by lots of overseas firms means these problems are widespread.
Tip #2. MB are notorious for keeping solder in the tiny holes even after you suck out the solder with a pump. Instead of trying over and over to suck out the solder, I recommend that you invest $10 in a pencil type hand drill bit holder and some tiny bits the size of capacitor leads. These pencil type drill bit holder when used with the bits will go through solid solder like a hot knife through butter and you will end up with a perfect sized hole every time. Trust me, it works perfectly.
I'm messing with an old AM37 motherboard, which is a socket 462 board(Athlon XP). It's got nine bad capacitors right in a row near the CPU. Seems to have caused both the onboard display to stop working and the hard drive to spin up and down randomly.
I bought a 21 inch Dell LCD monitor from e-bay about a month ago. It was manufactured in Feb 2006 and wouldn't power up. I did the same thing Bill did by taking apart the LCD and inspecting the video and power boards. Unfortunately I couldn't see any distress on the capacitors or heat on the boards so I spent an hour searching the net and determined 3 caps were the most common failures, replaced them and have a 595$ monitor in 2006 for 30$ , 4$ in parts and about 3 hours of my time!
Interesting enough the southbridge with the VIA logo also has a national semiconductor logo beside it, I have a similar mobo with the same chipset, perhaps a partnership between via and NS at the time?
early AMD Athlon processors have heat issues because AMD wasn't thinking about people removing the heatsinks during operation, and didn't add processor throttling. the Athlon 64 added heat protection + throttle. my amd fx 6300 runs 106F when idle.
I took a little chance and bought an Envision 22" flat panel LCD monitor from Staples, a brand I had never heard of, it's been 11 years now and not one single problem, not a bad run.
I have 2 solder iron from when I was in the NAVY they have 3 prong and say grounded I was taught that the solder iron must have 3 prongs as a 2 prong can get a small voltage from the neutral. Have you heard this? I love the way you can fix any electronics. Keep the videos coming!!!
Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it. - Jeff Spicoli "Fast Times and Ridgemont High"
Bill! Thanks for the video post!!!! It was very useful to me. I have the same problem with the same monitor. My question is. What kind of power are those capacitors you used? Where do you get them? I'm going to need to get some of my own at the same power probably. Thanks again!
Ohh, I can imagine trying to work on a motherboard. So many other connections close, and whatnot. I definitely need to work my solder skills some more. But what a good deal on the display and seems like the computer will do well also. Sad to see what people do to the keyboards and equipment now a days at library and schools.
We have a monitor at work that malfunctioned today. It's a fairly new (a year and a half old?) 19" ViewSonic VA1948M-LED. It functioned normally for an hour or so after being stored for a few weeks, then it started turning off an on. The screen went black, then lit up to the ViewSonic logo, went black, then logo, etc. in a loop. The monitor it replaced was fine, and I grabbed another one identical to the malfunctioning one and it's also fine, any ideas what might be wrong with it? Capacitors?
I've had more than my fair share of those AOpen computers, I always thought that they were pretty reliable and decently built but they do like to blow their caps. The funniest thing is that I was always under the understanding that AOpen computers were only a Canadian novelty so I don't know if I'm wrong or that one got to Illinois somehow?
+Tri-County Electronics AOpen sold products all over the world, and their motherboards were fairly popular in the US. The computers were less so, but they're not at all uncommon. I liked this system well enough, and it's still around here today, though I felt the motherboard deserved a much better case.
As a question I am VERY curious, how do you know what you are doing? Did you go to school to get where you are now, or did you just pick something up on the internet. I would love to be able to do what you do with these electronics and repair them
@uxwbill they're really nice keyboards. i have one of those HP keyboards that come standard with office computers similar to the compaq deskpro's, and it's pretty nice to type on as well.
I got an Dell flat LCD screen that I found in the garbage that works to a certain degree.. as soon as you turn it on it will stay on for 2 secs & then shut off.. what could be the problem with it?
FWIW, if a cap looks "kind of bad" then it's very bad. Visual signs come long after failure. The first board I recapped was a somewhat rare one and personal favorite S370 ABit. It has about 25 caps I replaced and the joints are awful with lots of burns. When I look back at it I'm amazed it works. I'm better at it now but I dare not retouch it, I think it would shatter like glass if I ever reheat the poor thing again. At least that board seemed to be forgiving of my lack of skill.
great video, I am trying to figure out what is wrong with my pcchips A15G motherboard. i had a powersurge over ethernet. from my phone line/router/modem.and now my ethernet port and my pci slots dont work. all caps look ok,and the pc still boots and runs windows fine. but my ethernet light stays on all the time.(even without ethernet cable ) any ideas as to whats wrong?
***** I found out their values on the internet, they are 1000uF 10V, I have the same movitor with the same problem but only one capacitor was bad, changed it and it came to life Thanks, your video was very encouraging!
u got lucky i dont usually find any free lcd monitors other then maybe some older ones someone may have upgraded from but usually they are gone about a minute after they are free. the only working monitor i have is an emachines crt from 2003 and it has a self diagnostic in it so if there is an issue with the monitor or computer it tells u. i wish i could come up with an lcd rather then a crt
i had a old compac with a 950 MHz amd cpu in it back in the mid 2000s i remember taking caps out of a old VCR with a propane touch to melt the solder from the back side of the board and pliers to pull them off then soldering them into the mother board with bits of cat 5 wire to extend the pins of the caps a few inches cause they were the same rating but fatter around then the originals then i loaded the mess with hot glue to make sure it would not short out i miss that pc lol
I replaced a no name brand (Teramars, I think) 17" CRT from 1997/8 in 2008 after it died. In it's place I got a Hanns-G HB175A. I highly doubt this LCD will work in 5 years, nevermind 10 years. Am I crazy or smart for thinking that? They just don't make things like they used to.
well if a monitor would hiss at me and go fizz bang pop pop bang it would be time for the good ole chevy to put the computer monitor in its place then finish it off with orchestra playing a good pounding with a sledge hammer lol
i replaced 3 caps in a hp vs10e monitor i got from computer repair place that was going to recycle it. look up "hpvs19e monitor fix". i did what the second link said. seems like this is a common problem.
I recently got my dad a used HP 20" LCD Monitor at a local thrift store for $22.99 + tax and that monitor is in perfect shape, just the screen needed a wipe-down. I had to get that monitor since my dad's old Sceptre X20WG-NagaII-b monitor has issues with the screen: there are either bright or dull vertical thick lines (the picture is still there) and I hear a squealing/whining noise from the monitor itself, with or without a picture on the display. Could it be bad capacitors?
That's still a good deal when you compare it to insane ebay prices. I found an HP 2405wg for no more than $12 a few years ago. 24" buit has a scratch, which isn't too annoying
i have a 2003 Samsung SyncMaster 151s, max 1024x768, 75hz, LCD. Really old, 15 inches but still is working XD even with some little dead flies inside ahahah
thats typical of school kids to destroy stuff like that, hope you can get that IBM model m to work. and nice work bill! my brother has a samsung syncmaster 932mw and it works as a monitor and a tv!
every CPU failure I've seen is because of some numpty improperly attaching the heatsink, not applying thermal paste properly (or at all,) and it's not limited to any one manufacturer. I've actually seen a lot of socket 775 Pentium 4's fail, mostly because of how goddamn hot P4's run for the cooling they're generally given.
I know a trick which will ensure that the electrolytic caps on the motherboard of a certain computer will never lose their connection to the board due to bad soldering joints - Press the CAPS LOCK button! :)
nice toys.. :D but YUCK on VIA, and no AGP slot... but, meh.. I run a Gateway Profile 4 with BAD, UGLY, BLEEDING CPU caps on it's mobo :D hehe, have fun with it mate.. I suggest making a server out of the PC with Debian Testing (Squeeze).. :D
samsung... makes all their tv and monitors with the same design like that and their capacitors are rated only for the warranty length. After that they ALL bow happens to all my Samsung monitors!
OUTSTANDING. It's nice to see that people actually know how to /fix/ things instead of just replacing parts.
Very, very nice.
There's nothing quite like the nostalgia of an awesome AwardBIOS 'beep' every time you turn on the computer. The fact that the EPA logo was changed is a bit of a frowny face, but I guess you can't win them all. I guess since my first computer had an AwardBIOS, that's why I'm much more partial to them than especially AMI. The first beep was very satisfying to hear and for some reason, AMI's sounded slightly different in pitch.
Hey Bill: Thanks for all your videos. They are amazing and a pleasure to watch. Like you, I love vintage audio equipment and computers too.
GOD I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SOOOO MUCH!!!!!!! i just needed to get that out. your videos make me so happy everytime i see a new one! thanks for making awesome videos!
I have an old Hewlett-Packard Pavilion f70 flat panel monitor manufactured in August of 2002 with 5567 hours on the back light and it still runs like the day it came out of the packaging. The built in speakers work awesome, too.
An early 2000s computer with Ubuntu on it, remarkable!
Bill, I'm seriously considering making a playlist of all your Kitchen table electronics repair, and some other electronic repair videos. Is that ok with you?
My god... i need to buy a bad LCD and repair it. You're an inspiration.
THIS GUY IS SMART!
I think the OS was Ubuntu 10.04 I'm not sure
8:03 - How come old PCs had actual a PC speaker in them, but I know some business class desktops have a actual speaker built-in.
@MixerVM
The capacitors next to the processor are usually 6.5 volts.
Old processors like a 286 or 386 could run without any cooling at all, and just the power supply fan was fine to keep air moving. But pretty much anything from a Pentium on up will burn completely out rather quickly without any cooling, and the fans in the case help the processor fan by keeping cool air going through the case, so the processor isn't just getting hot air blown on it.
Bill, when you remove caps from a MB, it is best to put a small bead of fresh solder on the old solder points and let it act like a heat transfer between the iron and the old solder points. You can then rock the caps out back and forth. THis extra solder makes it a lot easier for a solder sucker to remove that bead when you are done. Sometimes you might have to add another bead before you suck it out.
I have an aopen computer branded as Advanced Logic Systems with the same case as this one running an athlon 1800+ and it doesn't have those rear exhaust fans or the front intake fan so it runs really hot. It still runs though but crashes on programs quite often so I need to find fans that fit those 2 rear vents but they don't appear to be a standard size fan
@uxwbill What do you mean? The buzzing sounded fake...
I have found that I needed a fairly hot iron for mainboard work. Most modern ones are 4 or 6 layers, and the layers act as heatsinks, so they won't take any solder if you use the light-duty irons.
I have about 20 Samsung monitors of similar vintage at work with the same power supply problems. All have bad caps. Faulty electrolyte formula copied by lots of overseas firms means these problems are widespread.
Always laughed at the "no keyboard or keyboard error....press F1 to continue" message!
Tip #2. MB are notorious for keeping solder in the tiny holes even after you suck out the solder with a pump. Instead of trying over and over to suck out the solder, I recommend that you invest $10 in a pencil type hand drill bit holder and some tiny bits the size of capacitor leads. These pencil type drill bit holder when used with the bits will go through solid solder like a hot knife through butter and you will end up with a perfect sized hole every time. Trust me, it works perfectly.
I'm messing with an old AM37 motherboard, which is a socket 462 board(Athlon XP). It's got nine bad capacitors right in a row near the CPU. Seems to have caused both the onboard display to stop working and the hard drive to spin up and down randomly.
I bought a 21 inch Dell LCD monitor from e-bay about a month ago. It was manufactured in Feb 2006 and wouldn't power up.
I did the same thing Bill did by taking apart the LCD and inspecting the video and power boards. Unfortunately I couldn't see any distress on the capacitors or heat on the boards so I spent an hour searching the net and determined 3 caps were the most common failures, replaced them and have a 595$ monitor in 2006 for 30$ , 4$ in parts and about 3 hours of my time!
Interesting enough the southbridge with the VIA logo also has a national semiconductor logo beside it, I have a similar mobo with the same chipset, perhaps a partnership between via and NS at the time?
early AMD Athlon processors have heat issues because AMD wasn't thinking about people removing the heatsinks during operation, and didn't add processor throttling. the Athlon 64 added heat protection + throttle. my amd fx 6300 runs 106F when idle.
I took a little chance and bought an Envision 22" flat panel LCD monitor from Staples, a brand I had never heard of, it's been 11 years now and not one single problem, not a bad run.
I have 2 solder iron from when I was in the NAVY they have 3 prong and say grounded I was taught that the solder iron must have 3 prongs as a 2 prong
can get a small voltage from the neutral. Have you heard this?
I love the way you can fix any electronics.
Keep the videos coming!!!
Was that a little Eton weather radio on the table?
Relax, all right? My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it. - Jeff Spicoli "Fast Times and Ridgemont High"
wow, are you talking about my life with electronics?!? that matched perfectly :D
AFAIK, you need Lead-free solder for motherboards and other ICs. Power suplies are generally not picky about solders.
do you have any videos of you fixing old tube radios?
Very good job fixing the screen!
What is the power supply wattage for the computer and why are there so many fans?
Bill! Thanks for the video post!!!! It was very useful to me. I have the same problem with the same monitor. My question is. What kind of power are those capacitors you used? Where do you get them? I'm going to need to get some of my own at the same power probably. Thanks again!
Ohh, I can imagine trying to work on a motherboard. So many other connections close, and whatnot. I definitely need to work my solder skills some more.
But what a good deal on the display and seems like the computer will do well also.
Sad to see what people do to the keyboards and equipment now a days at library and schools.
We have a monitor at work that malfunctioned today. It's a fairly new (a year and a half old?) 19" ViewSonic VA1948M-LED. It functioned normally for an hour or so after being stored for a few weeks, then it started turning off an on. The screen went black, then lit up to the ViewSonic logo, went black, then logo, etc. in a loop. The monitor it replaced was fine, and I grabbed another one identical to the malfunctioning one and it's also fine, any ideas what might be wrong with it? Capacitors?
am I weird that I like the old beige cases over the shiny new ones
You are the king, uxwbill!
Someday I hope to be half as handy with a soldering iron as you are. :D
Nice sound effects @ 5:14 XD
Do you have any videos of you fixing tv set
Gotta love those older AMD chips.
What was that noise when you first plugged in the monitor? lqtm
You can't beat a free monitor, especially a nice one like that!
I've had more than my fair share of those AOpen computers, I always thought that they were pretty reliable and decently built but they do like to blow their caps. The funniest thing is that I was always under the understanding that AOpen computers were only a Canadian novelty so I don't know if I'm wrong or that one got to Illinois somehow?
+Tri-County Electronics AOpen sold products all over the world, and their motherboards were fairly popular in the US. The computers were less so, but they're not at all uncommon.
I liked this system well enough, and it's still around here today, though I felt the motherboard deserved a much better case.
As a question I am VERY curious, how do you know what you are doing? Did you go to school to get where you are now, or did you just pick something up on the internet. I would love to be able to do what you do with these electronics and repair them
@uxwbill they're really nice keyboards. i have one of those HP keyboards that come standard with office computers similar to the compaq deskpro's, and it's pretty nice to type on as well.
wow working on those deep internals of a computer is way more than i want to get into. is there anything you cant fix?
What do you use these junky computers for?
9:55 It's suggested to use iso propyl acohol.
I got an Dell flat LCD screen that I found in the garbage that works to a certain degree.. as soon as you turn it on it will stay on for 2 secs & then shut off.. what could be the problem with it?
@Jerkwad152 Ok, I am smart enough to know about the need for cooling, this is just a low end system
what program did u use for testing the pc
FWIW, if a cap looks "kind of bad" then it's very bad. Visual signs come long after failure.
The first board I recapped was a somewhat rare one and personal favorite S370 ABit. It has about 25 caps I replaced and the joints are awful with lots of burns. When I look back at it I'm amazed it works. I'm better at it now but I dare not retouch it, I think it would shatter like glass if I ever reheat the poor thing again. At least that board seemed to be forgiving of my lack of skill.
The zapping noise cracked me up!
you made me realize how important capacitors are.
great video, I am trying to figure out what is wrong with my pcchips A15G
motherboard. i had a powersurge over ethernet. from my phone line/router/modem.and now my ethernet port and my pci slots dont work. all caps look ok,and the pc still boots and runs windows fine. but my ethernet light stays on all the time.(even without ethernet cable ) any ideas as to whats wrong?
That poor Model M! :( I can only dream of having a nice clicky keyboard like that...
pretty darn neat screen :) that Aopen pc isnt that bad. Durons were much faster than Celerons i most of the tasks, on way lower clocks.
were do you get all this free stuff???
whats the speed on the duron?
@mikee286 Probably uses 60mm fans.
I notice at the end you switched to a HP keyboard.
have u tried kde mint
what are the farad values of thoses capacitors you replaced?
***** I found out their values on the internet, they are 1000uF 10V,
I have the same movitor with the same problem but only one capacitor was bad, changed it and it came to life
Thanks, your video was very encouraging!
u got lucky i dont usually find any free lcd monitors other then maybe some older ones someone may have upgraded from but usually they are gone about a minute after they are free. the only working monitor i have is an emachines crt from 2003 and it has a self diagnostic in it so if there is an issue with the monitor or computer it tells u. i wish i could come up with an lcd rather then a crt
i had a old compac with a 950 MHz amd cpu in it back in the mid 2000s i remember taking caps out of a old VCR with a propane touch to melt the solder from the back side of the board and pliers to pull them off then soldering them into the mother board with bits of cat 5 wire to extend the pins of the caps a few inches cause they were the same rating but fatter around then the originals then i loaded the mess with hot glue to make sure it would not short out i miss that pc lol
i have a 17iuch hp flat panel LCD monitor
the things a tank surprisinly, especially since its from hp
I replaced a no name brand (Teramars, I think) 17" CRT from 1997/8 in 2008 after it died. In it's place I got a Hanns-G HB175A. I highly doubt this LCD will work in 5 years, nevermind 10 years.
Am I crazy or smart for thinking that?
They just don't make things like they used to.
around 5:15 i heard some sort of electric buzzing...
WOOOHOOO YOU HAVE ANOTHER MONITOR PUT THAT ON UR GOOD COMPUTER DUDE
fantastic video!
well if a monitor would hiss at me and go fizz bang pop pop bang it would be time for the good ole chevy to put the computer monitor in its place then finish it off with orchestra playing a good pounding with a sledge hammer lol
I have two monitors with that problem but they still working for some reason
i replaced 3 caps in a hp vs10e monitor i got from computer repair place that was going to recycle it. look up "hpvs19e monitor fix". i did what the second link said. seems like this is a common problem.
@uxwbill ill be watching for years!!!!!!!
@canadaeast I was just about to ask the same thing, that sounded bad
12:25 somehow you ended up in 2011 oops omg who does that guy think he is?
I recently got my dad a used HP 20" LCD Monitor at a local thrift store for $22.99 + tax and that monitor is in perfect shape, just the screen needed a wipe-down. I had to get that monitor since my dad's old Sceptre X20WG-NagaII-b monitor has issues with the screen: there are either bright or dull vertical thick lines (the picture is still there) and I hear a squealing/whining noise from the monitor itself, with or without a picture on the display. Could it be bad capacitors?
yes the whining noise are bad caps
That's still a good deal when you compare it to insane ebay prices. I found an HP 2405wg for no more than $12 a few years ago. 24" buit has a scratch, which isn't too annoying
i have to recap a motherboard i got because it has some buldging capacitors and ones that have leaked.
Excellent video...5*****
Aopen doesn't seem a too bad brand. They're not outstanding, but not bad either.
i have a 2003 Samsung SyncMaster 151s, max 1024x768, 75hz, LCD. Really old, 15 inches but still is working XD even with some little dead flies inside ahahah
you are the man bill
The person you walked pass the camera at the very beginning were they wearing a taco for a belt? lqtm
thats typical of school kids to destroy stuff like that, hope you can get that IBM model m to work. and nice work bill! my brother has a samsung syncmaster 932mw and it works as a monitor and a tv!
i have a aopen motherbord and no case what do i do the bord works but i have no case i cand find one
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Can I have it, LOL I wish :) No, Enjoy your display! Hey you wouldnt happen to have a vga and dvi graphics card laying around?
That is one loud system.
oh and of course CPUs fried because of sketchy power supplies biting the dust, or power surges, is also something I've seen.
The school I went to for elementary and middle school has a ton of these Aopen computers.
Capacitors FTW!
maybe flux might help
every CPU failure I've seen is because of some numpty improperly attaching the heatsink, not applying thermal paste properly (or at all,) and it's not limited to any one manufacturer. I've actually seen a lot of socket 775 Pentium 4's fail, mostly because of how goddamn hot P4's run for the cooling they're generally given.
I know a trick which will ensure that the electrolytic caps on the motherboard of a certain computer will never lose their connection to the board due to bad soldering joints - Press the CAPS LOCK button! :)
nice toys.. :D but YUCK on VIA, and no AGP slot... but, meh.. I run a Gateway Profile 4 with BAD, UGLY, BLEEDING CPU caps on it's mobo :D hehe, have fun with it mate.. I suggest making a server out of the PC with Debian Testing (Squeeze).. :D
Sometimes though they dont look different when they have failed. Ever put one in backwards? POP!!!!!! We get bad caps in our buisness too.
not me...
The BIOS date says Christmas Day of 2002!
Like it :)
I Have a Packard Bell Mouse And it feels Cheap and also looks nasty. It does not even work.
god i wish i didn't throw away the 17 inch flat screen that i got for free and i knew the cap's where bad i didn't know how to replace them. :(
samsung... makes all their tv and monitors with the same design like that and their capacitors are rated only for the warranty length. After that they ALL bow happens to all my Samsung monitors!
now i need more computers lol :P
I see what you did there, lol
needs more flux.