Why so many comments about HS under the JUNHOE FOCUS video? Anyway, JUNHOE really did a good job for his stage!! He just killed it! JUNHOE FIGHTING!!!!!
I'm totally gonna vote for OT6 + Hongseok. Jinhyeong and Chanwoo are still young. They still have many chances of becoming an idol in the future but Hongseok is already 20. He needs to debut now or it's gonna be too late. Don't put his talent into waste, seriously.
Even tho the audio isnt too clear (obviously) U can already tell this is such an amazing performance ! Like WOWW Donghyuk's voice in this ~ ♡ N no words are needed for Junhoe because we all know he can sing but as for Hongseok, I agree with the comments b4 me -- he's definitely improved !!
OMG Junhoe Dong Dong you guys did well. I am surprise with Hong Seok's voice. It sounds so nice and warm. He hits high note exactly. I think I will vote for him instead Chanwoo. Team B + HongSeok = PERFECT iKON
Trung Pham Count on me. I will defintely vote for Him , he is the best of the new trainee but i am afraid everybody is crazy Chanwoo and won't give Hongseok is chance but i will do my part.For the best sake of IKOn -Team Hongseok
As before, I do not like Hong Soek but now I love him. Hongseok voice is daebak! . i think this time Team B needs he. I hope he is member of iKON. Me Support"Original TeamB+Hongseok"
I didn't like hong seok at first but I always said that he deserve a chance , He is a must be in ikon if he trained his voice he might be a great singer , he just need a bit of time + sorry chanwoo T.T " ... I'm going to vote 4 junhoe yoyo donghyuk hongseok , that's is the best 4 them " pray " ...
***** well...if we also take count of the pressure he is feeling which made the voice sounds worse..but i rmb in one of the fan meeting it is a really obvious comparison between his vocals and the others ..when nine of them sings.
***** you shouldn't look down on Yunhyung.. that kid has potential he can soon reach Jinhwan level definitely. His vocal is deep and different among the lead vocals as compared to Donghyuk who's voice isn't any unique and special in iKON.. thin and flat
WE CAN STILL SAVE HONG SEOK RIGHT? FOR ME HE DESERVES A SPOT IN iKON. CFANS AND JFANS, THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY FANS OF SEOK OUTSIDE KOREA, RIGHT? IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE A MOVE & HELP HIM GET THAT SPOT. YG, OPENED THE ONLINE VOTING SYSTEM SO THAT, WE INTL FANS CAN SAVE AND VOTE FOR HIM. WE CAN DO THIS, JUST TO VOTE HIM ON FACEBOOK. WE CAN NOT JUST SIT AND WATCH HIM BEING ELIMINATED WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING. PLEASE DONT LET THAT TO HAPPEN, IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SAVE HIM THRU FACEBOOK ONLINE ON OCT. 30, 2014. HOW MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD IF WE VOTE WE CAN SAVE HIM. PLEASE LET US VOTE FOR HIM. HIS VOICE IS THE ONE THEY NEEDED.
With just one performance, some people are convinced that hongseok should be a part of ikon. Yeah just because he did good in this performance doesn't mean he deserves something more than what he actually does. iKon's genre is hip hop, people. Hongseok's style is ballad. Yeah sure he can sing but that doesn't mean we should totally push him to join iKon. He'll only get all stressed out to fit in the group he clearly doesn't belong to. He deserves to debut, that's for sure, but not as a part of iKon.
I heard a clearer audio of this. The three of them SLAYED. June is excellent as always, Donghyuk's voice is SMOOTH AND DREAMY AS FUCK I can't even handle my feels. Hongseok really improved with his falsetto and with less straining of the voice. Basically, the three of them proved they're worthy vocals in iKON.
I knew it! Hongseok is really great. His voice was definitely perfect for the group. Look how his and Junhoe have great combi and even w/ donghyuk soft voice. :) His voice would balance everything for iKon. :) Good luck seokiee! :)
Holy Shit!i am a big fan of Hongseok and i actually dont want him to be iKon anymore because fans are too cruel for him but i need him singing along with Juehoe. They both are perfectly fit and could help team b's vocal line to be more stronger. I want to see their sub-unit but it might too late for voting Hongseok. Therefore I have to Keep voting OT3+Hongseok for 25 hrs.
JUNE & DONGDONG KILLING IT AS ALWAYS ~ Honestly. That note hongseok hit ... Amazing. I can't say I want him in iKON though. This is technically the element we all thought he could thrive in and he needs to be in a group that's predominately this kinda feel. Not a hiphop group with crazy dancing. *I hope YG keeps him at YG, he is kinda older though*
I'm really a big fan of Team B i don't wanna see anymore tears from team B like happened during WIN!! But i really impressed with 3 new trainee, Hongseok:nice voice n good lookin, Jinhyung:quite active, Chanwoo: an actor & a shy person are suit with his as maknae srsly i want all member debut with iKON, if it won't happen.. Just Let OT6+CHANWOO!! cause i impressed a lot with the maknae
His name is *Hongseok* not what's his name! Well let's see... Hongseok has a great voice, he was scouted two weeks before Mix & Match. By YG of course, asked to join Mix & Match, has had no vocal training or dance, and yet can sing so well. To me he is Ikon's best bet to go far. Why? Because he has potential, one has a voice range, where as you can see, his voice is great. It blends well with Junhoe and Donghyuk. No matter what Vocal range you are born with it, no matter how much the other two train their voice, it will not get as high as Hongseok, sorry but true. Ikon needs vocals to blend with each other, and this video is proof of why Hongseok, deserves to be in the vocal line, to help Junhoe, blend the voices of the others, so well, that ikon needs. Don't hate! Ikon/TeamB fans should come together and vote for what is best for Ikon, as a whole, not just be stubborn, because that is your bias, I did not want Hongseok at first, but now his colors have been shown through fan videos, he is kind, loving and caring of the members, he has been deemed evil by mnet editing, he seems to be a great guy. i vote for OT6>Hongseok!!!!! No one is splitting OT6, I pray. :)
His voice quality is just good. But not great. You can barely hear his low notes. You can only hear him best in his falsetto. Thats a very big weakness. His voice doesnt have the clarity like Donghyuk or Junhoe has. You can clearly hear Donghyuk and Junhoe's low notes here. Hongseok's low notes gets drowned out by the music up until he pulled a falsetto. If you really measure his range, youll see how limited it is. Watch Just Another Boy fan meeting performance. Hongseok was off key during his part.
Well we will just wait and see if he is not edited out by Mnet, this is just fan cams, so there is a big difference in sound, but, as some one who works in this industry, I find him to have the most potential to grow, and his voice is the strongest out of the three. Also just my professional opinion, you do not have to agree.
***** i am not expert. But in my understanding those who sing high they r tenor thats why they cant sing low. While junhoe is more like baritone. So he sings in low register. As much as i know tenors dont sing low. If only they r not contrtenor. That is really rare.
Vote for Hongseok instead of Chanwoo or another new member ( I don't remember his name) cuz Hong Seok has a nice voice. Hear how he hits high note. OMG!!!! TEAM B + HONGSEOK = iKON - let's make it happen guys
Mahatma i agree with you. this is vocal competition. we should focus on their voice. Through new 3 members, Hong Seok's voice is the best. see how his voice with JunHoe's voice and Jinhwan's voice in "I Want You". Daebak
My difinitely line up will be OT6+Hongseok.it's not only his awesome voice but also his personality that's can be seen from FM's fancam only!hope mnet wont cute his high note in next episode.
Ohhh my maknaes Junhoe and Donghyuk was oh so good... as per hongseok i kinda like him coz I find his voice good (i guess he made it known by this perf) and will be a great addition for the group.. but i happened to like Jinhyeong and Chanwoo too.. well if only i can make that 3 into a one person.. OT6 will and always be my choice.. I hope everything goes well after the competition... Fighting! Waiting for the entire show to be broadcast and i'm excited..
This hate on hongseok is unnecessary. My opinion, June has the best vocal in iKon. But Hongseok's voice is good too. I'm sure he could improve, singing and dancing.
Agree!! JunHoe, Hongseok and JinHyeong need to be IN. and since they want 7 members, either one of Donghyuk OR Yunhyeong need to be OUT. Chanwoo has to be OUT definitely.. his vocal is weak I don't believe in the OT6 crap. Only the best should stay imo.
cant wait for the 30th..time is going so slow...that particular moment which makes time faster is when exam is around the corner. TTTTT junhoe+hongseok+donghyuk+jinhyeong
Guys Hongseok can learn and improve his dance and confidence. Remember out of everyone he has the least training time. He has the talent though. Even as a listener I can tell he is the best person to compliment junhwe in terms of vocals. They both also worked well with donghyuk. This is the right balance. Charnwoos voice is too thin and Jinhyung has that stupid rumour which will mess up ikons image even if voice is decent. I know Hongseok is not naturally hip hop but who seriously is besides b.i and bobby? Let's get real here. Daesung wasn't hip hop nor was seungri actually but look at them now. Being different isn't a bad thing. Gd and top didn't get fame on their own they needed their strong vocalists to back them up. People telling me good sjngers aren't needed in hip hop don't make me laugh.
Also, look at Dara, Bom & Top they can't dance too. Why they are in YG? Through practice you can learn how to be good dancer but to have a beautiful voice like hongseok, that's what they so-called a gift from God. The number 1 you want to know in a group like that is that how good their vocals is, not their dancing skills or visuals only. They will not going to last longer in music industry if their voices are ehhehhhehheeee....
remember kang seungyoon, taehyun, they all learned and got better through practice but immature fans all judge hongsoek by the first impression and dont care to look further into him and his abilities :/
What more to ask for? Hong Seok has the looks, can speak English, Chinese (which is importantly because Ikon is going to promote in China. They are going to enter china market after debut.) I feel that as long as he receives dance training, he can be really outstanding. Anyway it gotta be OT6 + Hong Seok!!
I love Hongseok so much that I approve him going solo because he deserve much more than to receive hates comments about him every single fucking day just because people don't want him to be in Ikon
Hongseok tiene una gran voz el no se puede complementar a la empresa porque tiene poco tiempo de estar en ella el viene de jyp y los estilos son diferentes. Donghyuk y el fueron trainnes al mismo tiempo en jyp( en un video de jyp se puede ver a los 2 como trainnes en ella) Entoces si sacamos cuentad Hongseok ha luchado por su sueño entre 3 a 2 años como los chicos del team b sólo que nosotros sabemos por lo que han pasado ellos pero no por no saber por li que ha pasado Hongseok el no haya luchado. A mi opinión hong a luchadi mas desde jyp hasta yg que chan y jinh
***** But it's scary how many ppl are supporting him now. But his style hasn't improved at all! It's not his singing is "bad", but it doesn't fit with ikon at all! He can debut solo if he wants, but please spare ikon
We just have to make sure to support ot6 and chanwoo or jinhyeong. Im sure chanwoo and jinhyeong have a lot of intl fans out there who dont bother posting comments. I have to say Hongseok fans are very noisy in social media, but it doesnt necessarily mean its a majority. Im definitely voting for ot6 + chanwoo.
Artcaspero please stop stalking this video, i scroll down and see you post pro- chanwoo stuff while stepping on hong seok. You are pathetic. We are not deaf hong seok had potential and talent and he attracted fans without bias mnet editing (view his fancams and see how kind he is) so please stop spamming this page. If anything spam chanwoo page but why are you here? Because you want to make someone look bigger by crushing someone down? You make me sick. It isn't good advertising so stop making chanwoo fans look bad. I'm voting hong seok and seeing your comments on all his pages are annoying the life out of me.
stop it please. The guy is having his fresh start. He's not that experienced yet so stop criticizing him like he must be at this level. He's not even trained that long. of all contestants he is at the most disadvantage. It's a good sign he can keep up. It means he 's got something.
If yall are saying that hongseok can be trained in terms of enterntainment skills then what about chanwoo and jinhyung? They can be.in ikon and trained in terms of vocals also isnt it...the more impt thing here isnt the three newbies, its that ikon fans push yunjundong into 3 of the 4 spaces left alright
⊙_⊙ I've read people wanting to split OT6 to add HongSeok or Hoseok *what's his face* I DON'T CARE. That's that kind of bullsh*t that makes me think he sucks, even though he doesn't suck only the people supporting him blindly without the understanding of what Team B went through, those people SUCK, and they make me want to hate on the newbies uselessly. They are young trainees who didn't have to suffer the separation from their friends and family for as long as the OT6. They didn't suffer as much set backs. They didn't wait years fearing they would never debut. They didn't have time to disregard their health in order to practice because they had everything to lose. Let's be nice, the newbies are cute, so are the original team members. They have cute voices, but they need more training. Dancing skils...? They need more training! Stage presence...? Entertainment skills...? More training!!!! So stop with the splitting OT6 crap, even adding a new untrained member when they have to debut immediately in China and then in January in Korea is a big risk. A newbie has to be trained by the more experienced members so the team can perform correctly, don't you think they have enough to do as it is? The HongSeok one doesn't even dance correctly with a month of training on one performance, do you expect that a miracle will happen and he will become as skillful as the others by God's will? Please! I just hope this is going to end with OT6 + Jinhyung or Chanwoo because they only have 2 month to prepare for their debut. No time for mediocrity.
bc of your arrogance, im hoping neither of your wishes come true for the final member of ikon...and you watching this video and seeing that hongseok can DAMN SING BETTER THAN THE OTHER 2 and still hoping he wont get in makes me sick
I know what they've went through... I was there since ep 3 of WIN but does that mean we can't have a choice?? Is this a bit unfair for people with better vocal? And about the trainee part CW and Jinhy only trained 1 month more than Hongseok as compared to dance yes his losing but vocally he's way better than chanwoo (I love Jinhyung's voice too so will be glad if it's him). This will be a bigger risk if ot6+Chanwoo happens.. don't you see in long run. The public can wait for a dancer but not a vocal. Vocal range is pretty obvious whether they have potential or not. You can improve but you will still stay in your range and obviously someone is lacking it but people just blindly ignoring it which I don't get why at all.
OMG this... I feel like the new fans never watched WIN so they dont understand OT6's struggle TT I don't hate the newbies but can people start recognizing OT6's efforts... especially Dong sigh..
My preferred line up will be: BI,Bobby,Jinhwan (fixed) +JUNHO+HONGSEOK+JINHYEONG and either: DONGHYUK OR YUNHYEONG CHANWOO is a NO NO for me. His vocal is weak. Good vocal lineup is far more important than the OT6 thingy; if we want them to be one of the best boy groups in the future... imho
My preferred line up would be: BI, Bobby, Jinhwan, Junhoe, Hongseok, Jinhyeong and either Yunhyeong OR Donghyuk. Cause Im still not sure who is better btwn the two, since neither of them are good enough. and of course, Chanwoo should be out. Having strong vocal lineup is far more important than the OT6 crap. Please, this is not hating. This is basically for the betterment of IKON if we want them to be one of the best boy groups in the future. Only the strongest in vocal should stay.
No it is over for the matches, voting is taking place for the members on Oct 30th and 31st ygpress.blogspot.sg/2014/09/past-photos-and-stories-of-yg-trainee.html
I have been a silent observer but i created a youtube because i'm tired of people like you who think if you step on hong seok's hardwork and talent that it will make people think better of chanwoo (i notice you liked their final performance long time no see). We are not deaf, we notice talent and hang seok has potential and i was wowed by his performance so please stop harassing this video, you only make yourselves look bad.
supergrope didnt you read my comment well? i was up for jinhyung, not into chanwoo, and if this will look myself bad by commenting which ive heard was really off key, then call whatever you want, im not hating on hongseok i was just criticizing his performance. besides i dont really care who'll be the 7th member for as long as OT6 will retain thats it, and it you're hurt \, Im sorry.
Hongseok has never even cracked durin a performance LMAO Only durin tht ONE practice where he was nervous donghyuk has cracked multiple times even at fanmeetings.
It seems I've stumbled across a Hongseok fan page. All the commenters hear love him. Well I guess that explains why nobody is pointing out any weakness from this performance except me. What an overrated guy.
just to let you know..this is a junhoe focus..u aint stumbling anywhere..that guy is turning ppl into his fans..simply he shows his skills right this time
Sure, you can think that, but in all honesty, is Chanwoo or Jinhyung any better? Hongseok's the best out of the noobs and since iKon will consist of seven members, I'd rather vote someone who can sing and hold a note than a cute guy whose best quality is being able to blend in.
I scrolled through the comments and saw that your pick of the trainees was Chanwoo. Is this comment some fucking joke? Chanwoo is adorable and all but if he's who you're voting for, you have no right to pick on Hongseok's singing. Chanwoo's singing is the worst of the bunch.
I'm not impressed with Hongseok's high note. It was falsetto. Duh! Anybody can do that! You could barely even hear his voice before he sang that falsetto. Effing poor excuse of a singer!
U should quit your hating cause a young guy is working hard toward his dream of being a Singer, and what about you just sitting behind your screen shitting on others hardwork? Get off your high pedestral cause as much as I like Jun, he wasn't even that good in WIN, but had potensial and good voice which he improved so much till now and is main vocal. Among members I can only see Seok being able to become a main powerful vocalist alongside Jonhoe.
Same here. Don't understand why ppl are so damn impressed by 1 note? We all know he can hit high notes from Day 1, but he STILL sings like CHURCH CHOIR, even more obvious here since it's a ballad song
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Junhoe no words needed to decribe how good he is, and as for Hongseok his falsetto part was everything. Hope they both make it into the team
Junhoe's voice fit so well with this emotional song~ I hope YG won't waste his voice to only let him sing hip hop. Ballad can be his thing too
*tears* Hong Seok is finally getting some love! it's rare to see a video of iKON where HongSeok isn't being bashed.
junhoe's got to be on ikon..i really can't imagine the group without him!
Imagine what killer vocal duo Junhwe and Hongseok would be in Ikon, hitting all high notes and them sexy falsettos
June's voice is just perfect
Since he came around, i always thought on voting him. OT6+HongSeok is how this is gonna work ♡.
***** TOTALLY! You are the best too
good luck for hongseok :)
***** of course(・∀・)
Why so many comments about HS under the JUNHOE FOCUS video? Anyway, JUNHOE really did a good job for his stage!! He just killed it! JUNHOE FIGHTING!!!!!
Exactly what I was thinking!
Talent...his just that good.
lol ikr
hongseok drives me insane everytime i hear his part .
his fucking high note .
his talent cant be wasted , everyone .
I'm totally gonna vote for OT6 + Hongseok. Jinhyeong and Chanwoo are still young. They still have many chances of becoming an idol in the future but Hongseok is already 20. He needs to debut now or it's gonna be too late. Don't put his talent into waste, seriously.
Even tho the audio isnt too clear (obviously) U can already tell this is such an amazing performance ! Like WOWW Donghyuk's voice in this ~ ♡ N no words are needed for Junhoe because we all know he can sing but as for Hongseok, I agree with the comments b4 me -- he's definitely improved !!
OMG Junhoe Dong Dong you guys did well. I am surprise with Hong Seok's voice. It sounds so nice and warm. He hits high note exactly. I think I will vote for him instead Chanwoo. Team B + HongSeok = PERFECT iKON
Thank you thank you
Mahatma apps.facebook.com/ygmixandmatch/ Vote for JunHoe, Dong Dong, Yunh Yeong and Hong Seok please. We need to help him to join iKON!!
Trung Pham Count on me. I will defintely vote for Him , he is the best of the new trainee but i am afraid everybody is crazy Chanwoo and won't give Hongseok is chance but i will do my part.For the best sake of IKOn -Team Hongseok
Hongseok sure have prove to everyone that he will have work hard and strive for better. OT6+YangHongSeok=ikon.
As before, I do not like Hong Soek but now I love him.
Hongseok voice is daebak! . i think this time Team B needs he.
I hope he is member of iKON.
Me Support"Original TeamB+Hongseok"
I didn't like hong seok at first but I always said that he deserve a chance , He is a must be in ikon if he trained his voice he might be a great singer , he just need a bit of time + sorry chanwoo T.T " ... I'm going to vote 4 junhoe yoyo donghyuk hongseok , that's is the best 4 them " pray " ...
yes
PLEASE SAVE YANG HONG SEOK, HE DESERVES TO BE IN iKON. PLEASE VOTE FOR HIM. TT
if only people aren't so OT6 biased.. OT3+Junhoe+Yunhyeong+Jinhyeong+Hongseok will slay all new generation groups, my friend!
donghyuk is a better choice in the OT5
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***** Yunhyeong has good voice and he can compose song, it's Long Time No See
***** well...if we also take count of the pressure he is feeling which made the voice sounds worse..but i rmb in one of the fan meeting it is a really obvious comparison between his vocals and the others ..when nine of them sings.
***** you shouldn't look down on Yunhyung.. that kid has potential he can soon reach Jinhwan level definitely. His vocal is deep and different among the lead vocals as compared to Donghyuk who's voice isn't any unique and special in iKON.. thin and flat
WE CAN STILL SAVE HONG SEOK RIGHT? FOR ME HE DESERVES A SPOT IN iKON. CFANS AND JFANS, THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY FANS OF SEOK OUTSIDE KOREA, RIGHT? IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE A MOVE & HELP HIM GET THAT SPOT. YG, OPENED THE ONLINE VOTING SYSTEM SO THAT, WE INTL FANS CAN SAVE AND VOTE FOR HIM. WE CAN DO THIS, JUST TO VOTE HIM ON FACEBOOK. WE CAN NOT JUST SIT AND WATCH HIM BEING ELIMINATED WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING. PLEASE DONT LET THAT TO HAPPEN, IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SAVE HIM THRU FACEBOOK ONLINE ON OCT. 30, 2014. HOW MANY COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD IF WE VOTE WE CAN SAVE HIM. PLEASE LET US VOTE FOR HIM. HIS VOICE IS THE ONE THEY NEEDED.
Yes, I'll join. Thanks! :)
*****
sorry but i cant find the JusticeForHongseok on FB.
***** please like this page on FB facebook.com/ikon.hongseok
***** i've finally found the said page, i just joined the group. Please add me, my fb name is Chichi chi-chi.
With just one performance, some people are convinced that hongseok should be a part of ikon. Yeah just because he did good in this performance doesn't mean he deserves something more than what he actually does. iKon's genre is hip hop, people. Hongseok's style is ballad. Yeah sure he can sing but that doesn't mean we should totally push him to join iKon. He'll only get all stressed out to fit in the group he clearly doesn't belong to. He deserves to debut, that's for sure, but not as a part of iKon.
i feel like writing the word "biased on your face..with marker..sorry..you just got on my nerves
Xdarklight0 you don't have to say sorry when you're obviously not
I like Hong soek voice.. Being swag and hip hop can he learn that..
I heard a clearer audio of this. The three of them SLAYED. June is excellent as always, Donghyuk's voice is SMOOTH AND DREAMY AS FUCK I can't even handle my feels. Hongseok really improved with his falsetto and with less straining of the voice. Basically, the three of them proved they're worthy vocals in iKON.
Hongseok voice is daebak!
Donghyuk playing the piano and singing on point..superb. Great arrangement for ENL.
I knew it! Hongseok is really great. His voice was definitely perfect for the group. Look how his and Junhoe have great combi and even w/ donghyuk soft voice. :) His voice would balance everything for iKon. :) Good luck seokiee! :)
Although his part is so short, but still he managed to stood out from that stage.
Holy Shit!i am a big fan of Hongseok and i actually dont want him to be iKon anymore because fans are too cruel for him but i need him singing along with Juehoe. They both are perfectly fit and could help team b's vocal line to be more stronger. I want to see their sub-unit but it might too late for voting Hongseok. Therefore I have to Keep voting OT3+Hongseok for 25 hrs.
Whoaah Junhwe always perfect!! Can't wait to see the final battle perf!!!
i'm really love junhoe and donghyuk moment in 2:11 until 2:18
OT6 forever,haters go away
this guy is the voice of YG.... i am saying this in the bottom of my heart!!!!
JUNE & DONGDONG KILLING IT AS ALWAYS ~
Honestly. That note hongseok hit ... Amazing. I can't say I want him in iKON though. This is technically the element we all thought he could thrive in and he needs to be in a group that's predominately this kinda feel. Not a hiphop group with crazy dancing. *I hope YG keeps him at YG, he is kinda older though*
I'm really a big fan of Team B i don't wanna see anymore tears from team B like happened during WIN!!
But i really impressed with 3 new trainee, Hongseok:nice voice n good lookin, Jinhyung:quite active, Chanwoo: an actor & a shy person are suit with his as maknae
srsly i want all member debut with iKON, if it won't happen.. Just Let OT6+CHANWOO!! cause i impressed a lot with the maknae
Junhoe is amazing, that's all that matters.
I like Hongsoek's voice....he is so handsome wearing suit😊
His name is *Hongseok* not what's his name! Well let's see... Hongseok has a great voice, he was scouted two weeks before Mix & Match. By YG of course, asked to join Mix & Match, has had no vocal training or dance, and yet can sing so well. To me he is Ikon's best bet to go far. Why? Because he has potential, one has a voice range, where as you can see, his voice is great. It blends well with Junhoe and Donghyuk. No matter what Vocal range you are born with it, no matter how much the other two train their voice, it will not get as high as Hongseok, sorry but true. Ikon needs vocals to blend with each other, and this video is proof of why Hongseok, deserves to be in the vocal line, to help Junhoe, blend the voices of the others, so well, that ikon needs. Don't hate! Ikon/TeamB fans should come together and vote for what is best for Ikon, as a whole, not just be stubborn, because that is your bias, I did not want Hongseok at first, but now his colors have been shown through fan videos, he is kind, loving and caring of the members, he has been deemed evil by mnet editing, he seems to be a great guy. i vote for OT6>Hongseok!!!!! No one is splitting OT6, I pray. :)
No he doesn't have a great voice. He has a greater vocal range. But no, his voice quality is nothing special
His voice quality is just good. But not great. You can barely hear his low notes. You can only hear him best in his falsetto. Thats a very big weakness. His voice doesnt have the clarity like Donghyuk or Junhoe has. You can clearly hear Donghyuk and Junhoe's low notes here. Hongseok's low notes gets drowned out by the music up until he pulled a falsetto. If you really measure his range, youll see how limited it is. Watch Just Another Boy fan meeting performance. Hongseok was off key during his part.
Well we will just wait and see if he is not edited out by Mnet, this is just fan cams, so there is a big difference in sound, but, as some one who works in this industry, I find him to have the most potential to grow, and his voice is the strongest out of the three. Also just my professional opinion, you do not have to agree.
he join jyp audition with Dong
***** i am not expert. But in my understanding those who sing high they r tenor thats why they cant sing low. While junhoe is more like baritone. So he sings in low register. As much as i know tenors dont sing low. If only they r not contrtenor. That is really rare.
Vote for Hongseok instead of Chanwoo or another new member ( I don't remember his name) cuz Hong Seok has a nice voice. Hear how he hits high note. OMG!!!! TEAM B + HONGSEOK = iKON - let's make it happen guys
Why must we vote for other member that you doesn't really remember his name ? Jinhyeong . Instead of chanwoo . Why ?
Sofea Malik I mean only vote for Hong Seok. Keep OT6!!! sr if make u confused
Sofea Malik Because Chanwoo obviously can't sing like that.lol
Mahatma i agree with you. this is vocal competition. we should focus on their voice. Through new 3 members, Hong Seok's voice is the best. see how his voice with JunHoe's voice and Jinhwan's voice in "I Want You". Daebak
No way! To hell with hongseok! team b + chanwoo all the way!
OMFG!!!! this is PERFECT!!!
JUNE JJANG!!!
My difinitely line up will be OT6+Hongseok.it's not only his awesome voice but also his personality that's can be seen from FM's fancam only!hope mnet wont cute his high note in next episode.
준회 눈코입은 봐도 봐도 안질린다... ㅠㅠ 예나 지금이나 음색깡패 ....스릉해
Hate to say this, buy Hongseok hyung is improved sooo much!
donghyuk voice tho sounds so well in this song..
Junhoe, I love you ^^
OT6+Chanwoo... iKON Jjang! ♥ #saveYunJunDong
3 of the main vocals in iKON!!! FIGHTING FANS FIGHTING FIGHTING FIGHTING
Woww Hongseok 's high note.
Ohhh my maknaes Junhoe and Donghyuk was oh so good... as per hongseok i kinda like him coz I find his voice good (i guess he made it known by this perf) and will be a great addition for the group.. but i happened to like Jinhyeong and Chanwoo too.. well if only i can make that 3 into a one person.. OT6 will and always be my choice.. I hope everything goes well after the competition... Fighting! Waiting for the entire show to be broadcast and i'm excited..
This hate on hongseok is unnecessary. My opinion, June has the best vocal in iKon. But Hongseok's voice is good too. I'm sure he could improve, singing and dancing.
헐 양홍석 뭐야..?준회보러왔다가 양홍석 가성듣고 깜짝놀람 잘한다
Vote ot6 + hongseok
my last wish didn't came true.. with June, Hong and Jinhyung singing a song together... :/ just 1 song... sigh
Hongseok and Jinhyeong IN - Donghyuk and Chanwoo OUT - SPLIT UP OT6!!
i think you need a life please refer to ineedalife(.)com
hei, OT6 forever, don't try make them broke,
I completely disagree. No way! Hell to the freaking NO! No way team b fans will let that happen! Eff u all who think of splitting ot6!
***** yes really agree
Agree!! JunHoe, Hongseok and JinHyeong need to be IN.
and since they want 7 members, either one of Donghyuk OR Yunhyeong need to be OUT.
Chanwoo has to be OUT definitely.. his vocal is weak
I don't believe in the OT6 crap. Only the best should stay imo.
Sorry to say this but fans and YG are seriously dumb to not vote Hongseok and let his voice and singing talent go😒
Hongsek fighting!!!!!!
HONGSEOK
cant wait for the 30th..time is going so slow...that particular moment which makes time faster is when exam is around the corner. TTTTT junhoe+hongseok+donghyuk+jinhyeong
Guys Hongseok can learn and improve his dance and confidence. Remember out of everyone he has the least training time. He has the talent though. Even as a listener I can tell he is the best person to compliment junhwe in terms of vocals. They both also worked well with donghyuk. This is the right balance. Charnwoos voice is too thin and Jinhyung has that stupid rumour which will mess up ikons image even if voice is decent. I know Hongseok is not naturally hip hop but who seriously is besides b.i and bobby? Let's get real here. Daesung wasn't hip hop nor was seungri actually but look at them now. Being different isn't a bad thing. Gd and top didn't get fame on their own they needed their strong vocalists to back them up. People telling me good sjngers aren't needed in hip hop don't make me laugh.
yeaaaaaaaaaa
Also, look at Dara, Bom & Top they can't dance too. Why they are in YG? Through practice you can learn how to be good dancer but to have a beautiful voice like hongseok, that's what they so-called a gift from God. The number 1 you want to know in a group like that is that how good their vocals is, not their dancing skills or visuals only. They will not going to last longer in music industry if their voices are ehhehhhehheeee....
remember kang seungyoon, taehyun, they all learned and got better through practice
but immature fans all judge hongsoek by the first impression and dont care to look further into him and his abilities :/
What more to ask for? Hong Seok has the looks, can speak English, Chinese (which is importantly because Ikon is going to promote in China. They are going to enter china market after debut.) I feel that as long as he receives dance training, he can be really outstanding. Anyway it gotta be OT6 + Hong Seok!!
i like hongseok
I love Hongseok so much that I approve him going solo because he deserve much more than to receive hates comments about him every single fucking day just because people don't want him to be in Ikon
dongdong
if we want to save either one of the new trainees then we have to consider OT5+2 because that will bring a bigger possibility
Hope Hongseok got enough votes T w T
He's so cute for me
even he didnt have any air time in M&M :(
#SAVEYUNJUNDONG
Hongseok tiene una gran voz el no se puede complementar a la empresa porque tiene poco tiempo de estar en ella el viene de jyp y los estilos son diferentes. Donghyuk y el fueron trainnes al mismo tiempo en jyp( en un video de jyp se puede ver a los 2 como trainnes en ella) Entoces si sacamos cuentad Hongseok ha luchado por su sueño entre 3 a 2 años como los chicos del team b sólo que nosotros sabemos por lo que han pasado ellos pero no por no saber por li que ha pasado Hongseok el no haya luchado.
A mi opinión hong a luchadi mas desde jyp hasta yg que chan y jinh
Can't they debut as 9 members?! aghhh hard to vote:(
Despite my lack of the knowledge, I like this song and It is really great ! especially from 2:50
He's even off-key on the lower parts. One high note, using falsetto, all of a sudden everybody's impressed? lolll....
Lol ikr. One falsetto note and every Hongseok fan is like "Holy sh*** everybody drop whatever youre doing!!!" Lol! I just cant with these guys.
***** But it's scary how many ppl are supporting him now. But his style hasn't improved at all! It's not his singing is "bad", but it doesn't fit with ikon at all! He can debut solo if he wants, but please spare ikon
We just have to make sure to support ot6 and chanwoo or jinhyeong. Im sure chanwoo and jinhyeong have a lot of intl fans out there who dont bother posting comments. I have to say Hongseok fans are very noisy in social media, but it doesnt necessarily mean its a majority. Im definitely voting for ot6 + chanwoo.
Artcaspero please stop stalking this video, i scroll down and see you post pro- chanwoo stuff while stepping on hong seok. You are pathetic. We are not deaf hong seok had potential and talent and he attracted fans without bias mnet editing (view his fancams and see how kind he is) so please stop spamming this page. If anything spam chanwoo page but why are you here? Because you want to make someone look bigger by crushing someone down? You make me sick. It isn't good advertising so stop making chanwoo fans look bad. I'm voting hong seok and seeing your comments on all his pages are annoying the life out of me.
stop it please. The guy is having his fresh start. He's not that experienced yet so stop criticizing him like he must be at this level. He's not even trained that long. of all contestants he is at the most disadvantage. It's a good sign he can keep up. It means he 's got something.
If yall are saying that hongseok can be trained in terms of enterntainment skills then what about chanwoo and jinhyung? They can be.in ikon and trained in terms of vocals also isnt it...the more impt thing here isnt the three newbies, its that ikon fans push yunjundong into 3 of the 4 spaces left alright
My Juneee T^T
⊙_⊙ I've read people wanting to split OT6 to add HongSeok or Hoseok *what's his face* I DON'T CARE. That's that kind of bullsh*t that makes me think he sucks, even though he doesn't suck only the people supporting him blindly without the understanding of what Team B went through, those people SUCK, and they make me want to hate on the newbies uselessly. They are young trainees who didn't have to suffer the separation from their friends and family for as long as the OT6. They didn't suffer as much set backs. They didn't wait years fearing they would never debut. They didn't have time to disregard their health in order to practice because they had everything to lose. Let's be nice, the newbies are cute, so are the original team members. They have cute voices, but they need more training. Dancing skils...? They need more training! Stage presence...? Entertainment skills...? More training!!!! So stop with the splitting OT6 crap, even adding a new untrained member when they have to debut immediately in China and then in January in Korea is a big risk. A newbie has to be trained by the more experienced members so the team can perform correctly, don't you think they have enough to do as it is? The HongSeok one doesn't even dance correctly with a month of training on one performance, do you expect that a miracle will happen and he will become as skillful as the others by God's will? Please! I just hope this is going to end with OT6 + Jinhyung or Chanwoo because they only have 2 month to prepare for their debut. No time for mediocrity.
bc of your arrogance, im hoping neither of your wishes come true for the final member of ikon...and you watching this video and seeing that hongseok can DAMN SING BETTER THAN THE OTHER 2 and still hoping he wont get in makes me sick
I know what they've went through... I was there since ep 3 of WIN but does that mean we can't have a choice?? Is this a bit unfair for people with better vocal? And about the trainee part CW and Jinhy only trained 1 month more than Hongseok as compared to dance yes his losing but vocally he's way better than chanwoo (I love Jinhyung's voice too so will be glad if it's him). This will be a bigger risk if ot6+Chanwoo happens.. don't you see in long run. The public can wait for a dancer but not a vocal. Vocal range is pretty obvious whether they have potential or not. You can improve but you will still stay in your range and obviously someone is lacking it but people just blindly ignoring it which I don't get why at all.
OMG this... I feel like the new fans never watched WIN so they dont understand OT6's struggle TT I don't hate the newbies but can people start recognizing OT6's efforts... especially Dong sigh..
You are so right! Stupid hongseok fans are so stupid. Ot6 deserves the support they get.
i like it
OT6 and whoever i hope its chan woo though *cross fingers* cant wait for ep 8 :))
My preferred line up will be:
BI,Bobby,Jinhwan (fixed)
+JUNHO+HONGSEOK+JINHYEONG
and either:
DONGHYUK OR YUNHYEONG
CHANWOO is a NO NO for me. His vocal is weak.
Good vocal lineup is far more important than the OT6 thingy;
if we want them to be one of the best boy groups in the future... imho
that's no no, Hong Seok out, OT6 FOREVER
my line up is the same..i picked donghyuk
My preferred line up would be: BI, Bobby, Jinhwan, Junhoe, Hongseok, Jinhyeong
and either Yunhyeong OR Donghyuk.
Cause Im still not sure who is better btwn the two, since neither of them are good enough.
and of course, Chanwoo should be out.
Having strong vocal lineup is far more important than the OT6 crap. Please, this is not hating. This is basically for the betterment of IKON if we want them to be one of the best boy groups in the future.
Only the strongest in vocal should stay.
donghyuk TTTTT
HongSoek & Donghyuk's Friendship 141022 MIX&MATCH FINAL 동혁이 부상?
it is more like a brothership to me..big hyung and kiyomi
this is the sweetest thing!i love him
might be because both hongseok and donghyuk were in the top 10 from jyp's audition one year.
did i read the title wrong or-- why is there only like 5% of the comments talking about junhwe when this video is actually focusing on him idgi
I think HS Is not YG May be he can go another company like SM or JYP it good for him HS ahhh
there is a better audio version of them singing on tumbir ..visual from youtube ..combo .. u know wat i mean xD
daebakkkkkk. Hoe Hyuk dae bakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Keep 6+Some I like all new trainees. At first I prefer Hongsoek but I think he may be not happy in hip hop style. Sorry for my English.....
wOO goosebumps here .. love like saranghe CHAN HOE
Wait , mix and match already final . Over ? Someone answer plz !
Yes final is over. and no, result is not out yet.
No it is over for the matches, voting is taking place for the members on Oct 30th and 31st
ygpress.blogspot.sg/2014/09/past-photos-and-stories-of-yg-trainee.html
Hongseok cracks. Lol. sometime off key. He has a good voice but no control. got range but not that impressive. Id still vote for jinhyung.
I have been a silent observer but i created a youtube because i'm tired of people like you who think if you step on hong seok's hardwork and talent that it will make people think better of chanwoo (i notice you liked their final performance long time no see). We are not deaf, we notice talent and hang seok has potential and i was wowed by his performance so please stop harassing this video, you only make yourselves look bad.
supergrope didnt you read my comment well? i was up for jinhyung, not into chanwoo, and if this will look myself bad by commenting which ive heard was really off key, then call whatever you want, im not hating on hongseok i was just criticizing his performance. besides i dont really care who'll be the 7th member for as long as OT6 will retain thats it, and it you're hurt \, Im sorry.
I stand corrected but argument still stands, your not doing favors for yourself or the person your supporting by bashing someone else
Hongseok has never even cracked durin a performance LMAO
Only durin tht ONE practice where he was nervous
donghyuk has cracked multiple times
even at fanmeetings.
Okay okay everyone let's stop bashing and start hugging each other ;-; let's not forget everyone is talented and working towards there dreams.
Honestly, I can't hear anything just a little bit beat sound and a lot of scream
It seems I've stumbled across a Hongseok fan page. All the commenters hear love him. Well I guess that explains why nobody is pointing out any weakness from this performance except me. What an overrated guy.
This is the first time he was praised by this much people. Give the guy a break. He has been underrated for long enough.
just to let you know..this is a junhoe focus..u aint stumbling anywhere..that guy is turning ppl into his fans..simply he shows his skills right this time
Sure, you can think that, but in all honesty, is Chanwoo or Jinhyung any better? Hongseok's the best out of the noobs and since iKon will consist of seven members, I'd rather vote someone who can sing and hold a note than a cute guy whose best quality is being able to blend in.
I scrolled through the comments and saw that your pick of the trainees was Chanwoo.
Is this comment some fucking joke? Chanwoo is adorable and all but if he's who you're voting for, you have no right to pick on Hongseok's singing. Chanwoo's singing is the worst of the bunch.
Umm okay. Tnx. Bye. Lol
Hongseok is good singer but his not match in the group he can debut as a solo maybe a counterpart of lee hi
양홍석이 제일 잘하네요. 다른사람들은 소리만 질러대고 매력이 없어요.
I'm not impressed with Hongseok's high note. It was falsetto. Duh! Anybody can do that! You could barely even hear his voice before he sang that falsetto. Effing poor excuse of a singer!
U should quit your hating cause a young guy is working hard toward his dream of being a Singer, and what about you just sitting behind your screen shitting on others hardwork? Get off your high pedestral cause as much as I like Jun, he wasn't even that good in WIN, but had potensial and good voice which he improved so much till now and is main vocal. Among members I can only see Seok being able to become a main powerful vocalist alongside Jonhoe.
Taeyang used falsetto in the song too, it fits the song.
And singing in falsetto is not easy, not everyone can sing it that clear :-/
not impress then don't vote for him.. is it so hard? You just can't stop caring right. One more thing.. Chanwoo can't even reach this level
Same here. Don't understand why ppl are so damn impressed by 1 note? We all know he can hit high notes from Day 1, but he STILL sings like CHURCH CHOIR, even more obvious here since it's a ballad song
@aiayumi yay! Thank you! Somebody who's on my side. There is hope for this fandom after all. Lol