Isn't life strange - I lived in Leyland many years ago and worked at Leyland Motors. I now live in Scotland with a French 15 year old grandson who has an Ami.
This is a great review by an owner of living with a city car, all the pros and cons. The fact it maxes at 28mph, means it is not for everyone, but those living in large towns or cities could easily commute as generally the speed will not be above what it is capable of doing. Cheap to run and keeps you dry if it is raining.
For the pan roof, why not apply reflective window film. It is cheap, easy to apply yet still allow light into the cabin. I have this on my bifold doors which are south facing. The film effectively refuces solar gain.
The gear selection has moved to the dash on the Ami too. The better alternatives ( there are a few now) are more than double the price. The editing on this video is a bit off.
When I had an ICE car I would put a cheap 1kw fan heater in the the car on an extension lead to warm and defrost the car before leaving. If I had one of these it is something I would consider.
I thought these were a great idea, but the 28mph was just too slow for the roads I was expecting to drive on, so I got a Carver S+ that does just over 50mph. It's smaller, but can better keep up with traffic on the dual carriage ways in my local area.
Tegenwoordig ,heb ik vernomen,zitten de 3 knoppen;vooruit achteruit en neutraal op het dashboard. Ik rijd een rocks e in Nederland en ben tevreden met het “ding”.
These old men know about free (that is, free to them) public chargers, they boast about it, but they want to keep it to themselves! What an informative channel!
@@ziggarillo Honest... which if a few people around them had of done their health and life could be extended... what has happened to people ? really ? That is offensive clinical obesity...
WRT the effects of cold weather: Must admit I'm still not entirely clear on what cold weather does to EV performance. It definitely makes charging and discharging slower (therefore reducing performance in driving, as well as regen performance). That's one thing. But does it make charging and discharging less efficient? That is, are there more losses? Also, is existing charge lost when the battery gets cold? And is the maximum state of charge that can be attained any lower, or does it just take longer to charge to X percent of full charge? These are all different things.
I have found free chargers to be completely worthless so I avoid them, they seem to become the private domain of a few locals so unavailable for the traveling public.
Hi Dave, I know this is a separate topic to your video but have you done any content about the prospect of road tax for EV’s in 2025? I’m hearing that most EV’s (over £40K) will be in the luxury vehicle tax band of £600+ a year 😮 that’s a massive leap if accurate.
That is correct the so-called Osbourne Wealth tax will be introduced full details on the Government web site/DVLA. What’s not clear is whether it will be retrospective as there is mention of all EV’s from 2017 will be included, I think they have deliberately made the policy vague. Current extra cost is £540 for EV’s over £40K list price.
@@G6EJD it’s absolutely crazy to do it in my opinion. Maybe if the 2030 law had been kept on the ICE ban, then I would understand because they would need to start getting revenue in and people used to it. But the tories rolling back on it till 2035, we will see people chop their EV’s in if it’s not beneficial to them and just get a a cheaper ICE car again.
@@ziggarillo in this case, the difference in capability and utility of the used alternative is so vast that I don’t see why anyone would consider an Ami
@@johnmason5626All used cars were new once. The original Leaf cost £24,000 in 2016. My Ami cost £7,300 in 2023. They'll be available on the used market once the original leases expire, next year. The basic Leaf costs £ 28,495 now.
Will the Citroen Ami be subject to road tax after April 2025. Whats insurance costs avg. How long will currently exempt from the London Congestion Charge and the Ultra-Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) charges. I was eagerly waiting for these questions that never gotten any or much attention.
It will be interesting to see if the looming road tax for ev's in 2025 kills the Ami especially used ones. Yes it's a light quad but as far as road tax is concerned it will be the same as other vehicles i.e. £10 in 2025 then £190 at todays rates . There is no quad category for road tax so quads are lumped in with 4 wheeled vehicles so as far as road tax is concerned it's a car. The previous French microcars were the same eg Aixam etc. I don't think many people will be happy paying full car road tax the same as Teslas etc when essentially it's a moped. The govt. needs to look at this if they want ev's and small ev's to travel in cities. I've also seen the replies further down where they say it falls outside the car regulations but I wouldn't trust that info until we see it happen.
Nothing wrong with a car that has plastic panels. The original Mehari was mostly made of plastic, just like all the old VW Buggy cars. Those cars wont rust and with the right sort of plastics it could live for many decades.
A quadracycle would make a wonderful punishment car. Get caught drink driving and after the 18 month ban then the only car that can be driven is a quadracycle for the next two years. Imagine the drunken yob with his/her BMW being seen driving one of these by their mates. This is a bit unfair to the Ami which I like as a small run around. Possibly best in somewhere like a seaside town, the South of France or some island somewhere. There are too many aggressive aka stupid other drivers in the UK to make them safe.
I'm sorry but every car should be able to do 60mph, must have lights indicators, a proper heater and demister, and a range of a medium 100 miles, a vehicle in the uk with mph below a 50cc scooter is a danger to other drivers
Yes and all the problems a used Leaf may possibly bring as well as battery degradation. The Ami does not replace any car it's a moped so should only be used in 30 mph areas or busy towns as you would a moped.
@@chrisroberts5668 17 in the UK with a full licence. Legally they could be driven on a FULL moped licence at 16 but no one will insure you. Even Citroen UK's own insurance states this. Unless you have a FULL CAR licence DO NOT buy one. Nothing to stop you trying to get insurance but check it out before obtaining one. And NO you cannot drive it on a CBT or L plates(provisional licence) Even full car licence holders might get a shock with insurance. These types of vehicles have no real advantage in the UK that is why the previous French microcars never really took off.
Thes are exactly the local transportation we need, particularly in towns & cities. Unfortunately we have got ourselves into a culture of... "look at me in my gigantic gas guzzling suv" Untill our mindest changes, these will be be niche/novelty cars appealing to only those with a modecum of common sense. The BMW i3 was also the perfect city car...however BMW in their infinite wisdom (aka stupidity) decided to discontinue it ...in favour of....yes, you guessed it.... oversized, overpriced SUV's to feed the egotistical mindset.
@@ziggarillo No, I just understand using the term "Partner" is part of the destruction of family unit, like the normalizing and acceptance of "Failed marrages/divorce" where lawyers make all the money, or porn is pushed etc, sorry if I'm noticing details and mentioning them.
Nothing is free, so your stealing the electricity from someone, next, it's so very ugly and if 2 people the size of that bloke in the vid got in that toy, it would struggle to even move, it's a kids toy, no wonder people are laughing at you mate, just get a taxi to work.
These are designed for 14 year olds. In France they can be driven without a licence. There again the standard of driving in France is massively better than the UK so it would be safe there.
Just completed 6520 miles in my Ami!! Love it !!!!!!
Cracking little vehicle. Best buy ever. Love my AMI
Isn't life strange - I lived in Leyland many years ago and worked at Leyland Motors. I now live in Scotland with a French 15 year old grandson who has an Ami.
This is a great review by an owner of living with a city car, all the pros and cons. The fact it maxes at 28mph, means it is not for everyone, but those living in large towns or cities could easily commute as generally the speed will not be above what it is capable of doing. Cheap to run and keeps you dry if it is raining.
I can’t believe that you met Brendon on the street. Well done.
For the pan roof, why not apply reflective window film. It is cheap, easy to apply yet still allow light into the cabin.
I have this on my bifold doors which are south facing. The film effectively refuces solar gain.
Yes that wouid help a bit, but actually the single skin bodywork contributes most of the heat.
Only snag is you sit so far back traffic lights could be obscured so you tend to look through the roof to see them.
The gear selection has moved to the dash on the Ami too.
The better alternatives ( there are a few now) are more than double the price.
The editing on this video is a bit off.
Great video!
i thought I was going mad, but ~07:50 and ~24:50 are the same clip....about the washing and decals.
I did the same and had to double check!
When I had an ICE car I would put a cheap 1kw fan heater in the the car on an extension lead to warm and defrost the car before leaving. If I had one of these it is something I would consider.
That music was addictive 😂
I can see why people would be smiling at the front end, but I imagine there would be lots of grumpy people at the other end
I thought these were a great idea, but the 28mph was just too slow for the roads I was expecting to drive on, so I got a Carver S+ that does just over 50mph. It's smaller, but can better keep up with traffic on the dual carriage ways in my local area.
The Carver is definitely a better choice, it's not smaller though it's 48cm longer than an Ami and 33cm narrower.
An EV as the First Car! How times have changed! :)
That's a fun thing, expensive but fun lol
You can only see if it is going forwards or backwards by the colour of the number plate.
Plus the lights and the rear window overhang.
Oh wow. My ami is the Vibe version. My Careé is my vehicle of 19 mile a day.
😊 we love are Ami’s
Great around town car 🚙!
@@Citroen-ami Same. I used to be a petrol head but now swapped to a Citroen Ami and a Microlino on the way. Live in London so it only makes sense.
Cracking car
Tegenwoordig ,heb ik vernomen,zitten de 3 knoppen;vooruit achteruit en neutraal op het dashboard. Ik rijd een rocks e in Nederland en ben tevreden met het “ding”.
The seats are not "integral" they are seperate assemblies, like most cars.
These old men know about free (that is, free to them) public chargers, they boast about it, but they want to keep it to themselves! What an informative channel!
Yes, these free chargers are few and far between. A secret worth keeping. They would be overwhelmed.
And they must have a free source for food as well :)
@@ndudman8 Now you're just being offensive 🙄
@@ziggarillo Honest... which if a few people around them had of done their health and life could be extended... what has happened to people ? really ? That is offensive clinical obesity...
@@ndudman8😂 you're just uncontrollably offensive.
It's better than a moped, i guess.
And you only need a full moped(AM) license.
Overall it probably ends up being slower than a moped as you can't filter in it.
@@paulweston1106That's true.
Lol I thought I was going mad, even with the same laughs
The Ami would be perfect as an L7e (90kph) , with a heater and priced around 10 k .
This is exactly what EV's should look like . . . . One step beyond golf carts!
They should have upped the top speed for the UK market, 28 is just painful, 35 would be adequate for urban travel, 28 will just make people angry. ;)
Citroen ami works great on IOW. Just the ticket.
These minute French ‘cars’ enable banned drink drivers to stay on the road. There are lots of the old petrol ones in Spain
I was hoping to see him getting in/out of the car ? Are there it was at the end :)
WRT the effects of cold weather: Must admit I'm still not entirely clear on what cold weather does to EV performance. It definitely makes charging and discharging slower (therefore reducing performance in driving, as well as regen performance). That's one thing. But does it make charging and discharging less efficient? That is, are there more losses? Also, is existing charge lost when the battery gets cold? And is the maximum state of charge that can be attained any lower, or does it just take longer to charge to X percent of full charge? These are all different things.
The whole chemical reaction discharge - recharge is retarded.
I have found free chargers to be completely worthless so I avoid them, they seem to become the private domain of a few locals so unavailable for the traveling public.
It’s the shape of things to come…….
Hi Dave, I know this is a separate topic to your video but have you done any content about the prospect of road tax for EV’s in 2025? I’m hearing that most EV’s (over £40K) will be in the luxury vehicle tax band of £600+ a year 😮 that’s a massive leap if accurate.
That is correct the so-called Osbourne Wealth tax will be introduced full details on the Government web site/DVLA. What’s not clear is whether it will be retrospective as there is mention of all EV’s from 2017 will be included, I think they have deliberately made the policy vague. Current extra cost is £540 for EV’s over £40K list price.
Dave, thanks for this Ami review/insight I found it exceptionally interesting and informative, well done.
@@G6EJD it’s absolutely crazy to do it in my opinion. Maybe if the 2030 law had been kept on the ICE ban, then I would understand because they would need to start getting revenue in and people used to it. But the tories rolling back on it till 2035, we will see people chop their EV’s in if it’s not beneficial to them and just get a a cheaper ICE car again.
With respect, he needs his head testing buying that over a used Leaf
Obviously you're giving absolutely no respect. And of course you've totally missed the point 😂
@@ziggarillo why would you get an Ami when you could have a used Leaf for less money?
@@johnmason5626in that case why would anyone buy any new car?
@@ziggarillo in this case, the difference in capability and utility of the used alternative is so vast that I don’t see why anyone would consider an Ami
@@johnmason5626All used cars were new once. The original Leaf cost £24,000 in 2016. My Ami cost £7,300 in 2023. They'll be available on the used market once the original leases expire, next year.
The basic Leaf costs £ 28,495 now.
Hello mate
A drive would have been nice
How safe would you be in this EV if you were involved in an accident?
Shame that you 2 young slim chaps did not take for a spin until empty to check the real world range 😎
So do you need a license to drive one? Or just a provisional?
In the UK yes. Although you could legally drive it on a full moped licence try getting insurance. You really need a full car licence.
Will the Citroen Ami be subject to road tax after April 2025.
Whats insurance costs avg.
How long will currently exempt from the London Congestion Charge and the Ultra-Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ) charges.
I was eagerly waiting for these questions that never gotten any or much attention.
Probably £24 road tax, and obviously the exemption from congestion charge will continue.
@@ziggarillo
Good Afternoon
Zero road tax , due to the weight.
Zero road tax on the Citroen Ami 😊
@@Citroen-amiNo, it'll pay the same road tax as a moped, because of the AM classification. A moped is lighter.
@@ziggarillo just had another checked again, due to the weight and a quadricycle !!
Zero road tax 😊
It will be interesting to see if the looming road tax for ev's in 2025 kills the Ami especially used ones.
Yes it's a light quad but as far as road tax is concerned it will be the same as other vehicles i.e. £10 in 2025 then £190 at todays rates .
There is no quad category for road tax so quads are lumped in with 4 wheeled vehicles so as far as road tax is concerned it's a car.
The previous French microcars were the same eg Aixam etc.
I don't think many people will be happy paying full car road tax the same as Teslas etc when essentially it's a moped.
The govt. needs to look at this if they want ev's and small ev's to travel in cities.
I've also seen the replies further down where they say it falls outside the car regulations but I wouldn't trust that info until we see it happen.
If these vehicles can do a maximum 28mph as standard spec, they should be illegal on motorways as they are a danger to others and cause congestion.
They are illegal on motorways, they are an AM class vehicle, which is the same as a moped, which are also not allowed on motorways.
Nothing wrong with a car that has plastic panels.
The original Mehari was mostly made of plastic, just like all the old VW Buggy cars.
Those cars wont rust and with the right sort of plastics it could live for many decades.
And you can get a new electric Mehari for £35,000 right now.
Please show the Fiat version next time.
A quadracycle would make a wonderful punishment car. Get caught drink driving and after the 18 month ban then the only car that can be driven is a quadracycle for the next two years. Imagine the drunken yob with his/her BMW being seen driving one of these by their mates.
This is a bit unfair to the Ami which I like as a small run around. Possibly best in somewhere like a seaside town, the South of France or some island somewhere. There are too many aggressive aka stupid other drivers in the UK to make them safe.
I don't feel punished, in fact my last actual car was a BMW 645ci. I chose to drive an Ami instead.
Edited the same clip in twice
I'm sorry but every car should be able to do 60mph, must have lights indicators, a proper heater and demister, and a range of a medium 100 miles, a vehicle in the uk with mph below a 50cc scooter is a danger to other drivers
ITS NOT A CAR !!!
If it was you couldn't have all the advantages that the ami comes with
is it me or is this video very repeditive, i think the editor must of been sleeping
It's not just you, the editing is often a bit lacking.
If you want a cheap EV, a used Leaf for less money makes far more sense.
Or a used Ami, they'll start becoming available next year, as the first 3 Yr leases end.
Yes and all the problems a used Leaf may possibly bring as well as battery degradation.
The Ami does not replace any car it's a moped so should only be used in 30 mph areas or busy towns as you would a moped.
For sixteen year olds yeah, not for grown ups who already have a proper car.
@@chrisroberts5668 17 in the UK with a full licence. Legally they could be driven on a FULL moped licence at 16 but no one will insure you. Even Citroen UK's own insurance states this.
Unless you have a FULL CAR licence DO NOT buy one. Nothing to stop you trying to get insurance but check it out before obtaining one.
And NO you cannot drive it on a CBT or L plates(provisional licence)
Even full car licence holders might get a shock with insurance.
These types of vehicles have no real advantage in the UK that is why the previous French microcars never really took off.
Thes are exactly the local transportation we need, particularly in towns & cities.
Unfortunately we have got ourselves into a culture of... "look at me in my gigantic gas guzzling suv"
Untill our mindest changes, these will be be niche/novelty cars appealing to only those with a modecum of common sense.
The BMW i3 was also the perfect city car...however BMW in their infinite wisdom (aka stupidity) decided to discontinue it ...in favour of....yes, you guessed it.... oversized, overpriced SUV's to feed the egotistical mindset.
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It looks like the old invalid car of the 60s and 70s. In reality it's a clown car 🤡.
It would be ideal for you then😅
@@ziggarillo You should know with a name like yours. I bet you have the shoes to match.
If you only need to travel 2.5 miles to work why the “F” do you need a car? Try walking for god’s sake
How sad, not worth commenting on
When in the UK did people start saying partner instead of wife etc ? Does it always mean that the guy is gay and he's talking about his gay husband ?
Once you hit a certain age and aren't married saying boyfriend/girlfriend doesn't necessarily sound right.
@@paulweston1106 Oh so people who use partner are older non married generally ? I always hear that they must be gay?
@@ndudman8😂 you're a bit bewildered.
@@ziggarillo No, I just understand using the term "Partner" is part of the destruction of family unit, like the normalizing and acceptance of "Failed marrages/divorce" where lawyers make all the money, or porn is pushed etc, sorry if I'm noticing details and mentioning them.
@@ndudman8 it's a just grown up alternative to girlfriend or boyfriend, your bewilderment continues 🤣
Nothing is free, so your stealing the electricity from someone, next, it's so very ugly and if 2 people the size of that bloke in the vid got in that toy, it would struggle to even move, it's a kids toy, no wonder people are laughing at you mate, just get a taxi to work.
Would you dare drive this or even put your kids in it. Dangerous, A death trap.
I absolutely do, everyday 😊
You must spend your day hiding in your bed.
These are designed for 14 year olds. In France they can be driven without a licence. There again the standard of driving in France is massively better than the UK so it would be safe there.
@@Myamiadventures If I had one of these I would hide under my bed. . 0 to 60 unavailable. Unless rear ended by a truck.
@@keithdenton8386I imagine it's pretty much your daily position 😂
Its a cracking EV for 14 year olds
Think you have said it all my friend 👍