I think it's the time to just say thanks. Thanks for your high quality videos and your effort. I know you're a small RUclipsr but please keep going. With this fever your videos are very autentic and so good to look at. Thanks for that!
wonderful camera phone of the year. honestly, after I bought the P10 it also completely change the way I take the photo. enjoy it every time I use. amazing.
I like that you did a review specifically on the camera. I don't think people realize how powerful certain cellphone cameras are in comparison to professional cameras. The P10 main camera is really really good. I like the idea of running shots lol. Thanks!
Me and my friend went out last night. We went to downtown for a night walk. She had P9 and I had iPhone 6+. Though two mentioned phones are not in comparison yet I would say, P9 has a better camera at low light. Thank you for the P10 review. You add up the excitement to get P10 for myself. Ugh, soon as I get, bye bye iPhone lol
Greetings from Ireland, Wonderful reviews Kat, I really enjoyed them very much. I presently, use an S6 Edge, but am toying with going for the P10, as my daughter is going for one, and she adores the Huawei brand. Her last phone was an early Huawei (I can't remember which model) Through her own fault, it got damaged, but she absolutely adored it, and as far as she was concerned, it was a total workhorse!! So I'm following her with the idea of the P10 because to be honest, I am a total caveman when it comes to phones. Thank you once again for your great reviews, and I look forward to watching them all. Sending blessings from Ireland :)
Finally i found a good reviewer 😃!! I also do not like overblown colors, beauty effects and all that staffs which are usually present in asian smartphones. Thank you for playing with settings on p10 so you give more information about actual possibilities of reviewed smartphone than other youtubers. 👏
Sadly this phone is only available in a few countries. This phone is the perfect phone, it has speed, durability, awesome camera but it isn't available You should compare it with Samsung Galaxy S8 or Google Pixel because you have the best comparison. Almost all reviewers I have seen are always biased towards a particular brand. Some of them even showed that S7's camera was better than Google Pixel or iPhone 7's camera which is entirely false because I have compared both of them myself and S7 was buried into the ground by both. You weren't a bit biased, you gave us the best points of both phones. Also I'd really love to see the camera comparisons b/w Xperia XZs, S7, Pixel, Huawei P10 and iPhone 7.
Vikas Sharma samsung uses different camera sensors in their s7's phones and processors. you don't know how to use the phone's camera if you really think that the pixel and iPhone are better than the samsung galaxy s7 in a camera comparison.
Vikas Sharma all Huawei does is ripped off other oem's and phone manufacturers. the only thing Huawei has it going for them is their processor cause it's well optimized.
Yeah but still the differences are miniscule... I think it's a waste of time to pay attention to them. A review of a completely different smartphone would be a way better choice ;)
GREAT review. Hearing the opinion of non-geeky users is very nice. And yes, more camera reviews please. I like your conclusion at the end. Very accurate. iPhones, in addition to Galaxies are the easiest phones to get consistent good looking photos each and every time in auto mode.
I love your review, very honest and conscious that we're talking about a great phone camera, but still a phone camera not a pro yet it gives great results, I'm planning to move from p10lite to p10, just need to keep saving, thank you! ;)
Kat4K.. Fair comparison... I don't know others but I know my self I just love Huawei devices... And I m not a big fan of camera and selfies so It ll run for me. 😂..... I actually love it's design the most... So I m ready to buy what you ll prefer..... Thanks 🤔🙄
I liked ur video. You're not only a beautiful face. U showed all the pros and cons in regards to the camera...giving examples of what you were going to talk. To be honest I would never spend that much in a smartphone. But we can't judge people for what they buy. I bought a leeco le max 2 for 250 bucks and I'm really happy with that. It comes with most of the features that top brands are offering today. And I saved some money for further updates. Cheers! From Brazil :) you've got a new subscriber. Thuuuuumbs upp
kat4K Huawei P10 Cam review is the 2nd reason & 2nd vid I watched, You've got beautiful eyes :) is the 1st :) sorry to be honest Well looking fwd to Honor8 / Honor 8 Pro / P10. Currently using Honor 5c & hence looking fwd to Honor/Huawei phones! Thank you Kat/whatever your name is. Beautiful eyes & beautiful smile :) Use less makeup pls :/
Got my Huawei P10 and its simply amazing! 5/5 stars!. Thanks to you for this very helpful review. I'm happy with my purchase... More power to you & more great videos to come.... ur the best! :)
I have P10 and 100% you are correct. If you will use AUTO mode, it is better to go S8 for example but if you like creativity and playing with photos especially wide aperture mode and light painting mode, you will really enjoy huawei cameras not only P10 but you will like all huawei dual lens phones
great video.....your English is very clear....I will buy a P10 plus nov 27th 2017 so for now I have P8 lite.....and I will make a lot of tutorials like this....to help others....best regards from Panama city Panama.
On FHD camera setting you have the ability to turn on OIS (on UHD not unfortunately) if it is turned on the panning is really smooth. I am really impressed with this camera, both the rear and back. Sometimes the rear is a bit noisy in low light situations. The phone itself is also really good. I recommend it. :D
the huawei p10 was the clear winner in pictures. the colors were just amazing. but i felt the video quality to be not as good when you were panning both phones and walking on the track. maybe some video settings on the p10 need to be adjusted. edit: the front camera was pretty good. do you find yourself Switching to the p10 in the near future? 😜
Before indulging onto a test - comparison "in one" video, I'd suggest tuning in to Pocketnow's wide array of Real Camera Reviews playlist that would best suit your content. Like I've said before, tech reviewers ought to have a more professional mindset when there are specifications on the table, and by going in depth too. To be honest, you can just make a Mate 9 camera review beforehand and just give rough examples to prove that they are similar in both ways for the most parts.
Laser autofocus is only very useful for anything less than 2-3m. The laser diode is very weak and has very low range. Anything beyond 2-3m is done by either contrast detection or phase detection autofocus
+Zony Yu i didn't know that, thank you! 😃 As you saw, i sampled it on close objects. For quick instagram snaps it works awesome. :) Thank you for your insight, much appreciated! 😊
I appreciated the P10 camera revuew. But did you notice the grain. This was already highlighted as a problem in P9 and P9 . Then I had a chance to check out a p10 shot and it had so much grain even at default size. The default ISO was 500. so I tried 100 and the grain was still there. Or is it that the display just shows the grain? I am not sure what would come out if jpg is shown on a HD TV or display.
Hahahah! I have the same thought too. Iphones really do have the best camera for fast pictures. Do you have or plan to do videos reviewing iphone cameras? (and also other phones' camera if possible)
I've been watching other famous RUclips reviewers and I can compare them to you. You're really doing a great job! Subscribe! And also, I hope you review other brands
Hi kat4k , i live in Italy , i've a LG Nexus 5x and i'd like to upgrade my phone, the 5x has a good camera f2.0 with pixel 1.55 micron ad i'm very satisfied of the results in low light . P10 would like next step because for me is important a little phone 5.1-5.2 max , more speed ,elegance ,top processor in this little phone (kirin 960) , 4gb ram,front sensor . But the question is on camera : do you think p10 is better or equal than 5x or worse? thanks
Thanks for the nice comparison :) I think Apple and Samsung are still ahead in video mode. But Huawei is doing a great job in manual mode photos. You sold the P10 already?
Hey, you really do read most of your comments, so I appreciate it. Do you know what ways I can get the Huawei p10 since I am in the US? What trusted and respectful sellers sell Huawei p10 and deliver to US? I heard that certain model works with at&t and t-mobile and I am a t-mobile customer. If you are able to help me I would be very grateful.
I have an IPhone 7 and I was thinking about buying P10 for the camera .. but I decided to keep the iPhone when I watched this video ... You have been very helpful to me, Thank you...
im using a s7 edge but i think im falling for the Pixel, finally an Android phone that's just as smooth as the newest iPhone. When the Pixel 2 comes out with water resistance i'll save up and get one for myself.
Regarding your comment at the end of the video, which phone would you buy just for the camera (excluding the Google pixel and iPhone 7+) if you are a person that likes to play with iso, aperture, speed, etc.?
I think it's the time to just say thanks. Thanks for your high quality videos and your effort. I know you're a small RUclipsr but please keep going. With this fever your videos are very autentic and so good to look at. Thanks for that!
+Christopher Koße 😊 thank you for this kind comment, they really fuel me to make more videos! 😃💕
Christopher Koße agree with you she is the best compare those biased big channel.
wonderful camera phone of the year. honestly, after I bought the P10 it also completely change the way I take the photo. enjoy it every time I use. amazing.
I like that you did a review specifically on the camera. I don't think people realize how powerful certain cellphone cameras are in comparison to professional cameras. The P10 main camera is really really good. I like the idea of running shots lol. Thanks!
7:58 Beautiful eyes
Thank you for making a video specific for the camera.
+Alonso you're welcome! 😊
Me and my friend went out last night. We went to downtown for a night walk. She had P9 and I had iPhone 6+. Though two mentioned phones are not in comparison yet I would say, P9 has a better camera at low light. Thank you for the P10 review. You add up the excitement to get P10 for myself. Ugh, soon as I get, bye bye iPhone lol
Greetings from Ireland,
Wonderful reviews Kat, I really enjoyed them very much. I presently, use an S6 Edge, but am toying with going for the P10, as my daughter is going for one, and she adores the Huawei brand. Her last phone was an early Huawei (I can't remember which model) Through her own fault, it got damaged, but she absolutely adored it, and as far as she was concerned, it was a total workhorse!!
So I'm following her with the idea of the P10 because to be honest, I am a total caveman when it comes to phones.
Thank you once again for your great reviews, and I look forward to watching them all.
Sending blessings from Ireland :)
The P10 plus has a much better rare camera
+Ahmad Karkoush you mean 'rear'? 😜
That was a typo XD thanks for pointing that out, I am an English teacher lol
+Ahmad Karkoush hahaha well that was awkward. Please don't go looking for my typos and wrong use of your language 🤣🤣
Haha I won't
Ahmad Karkousط
kat4k! love your reviews. keep em coming
Check out the latest photos by Stas Ivanov with p10 plus: www.eyeem.com/u/24145765 All the photos in my profile made by huawei p10 plus ❤️
Finally i found a good reviewer 😃!! I also do not like overblown colors, beauty effects and all that staffs which are usually present in asian smartphones. Thank you for playing with settings on p10 so you give more information about actual possibilities of reviewed smartphone than other youtubers. 👏
+Milosz Kondraciuk thanks!! 😃😊🙌
love u. been waiting for such comparison
And now you have the first subscriber from Estonia! Loved the video!
+Ruslan Davudov Heeey!! 👋👋 I think i have quite some subsribers from Estonia! I was actually thinking once of moving there! 😃
kat4K haha okay now i gotta ask where are you from? :D
Oopsie , my bad. you are from Slovenia! Beautiful country! i was thete like few months ago :) And Your English is perfect! keep up the good work :)
+Ruslan Davudov 😁😁🙌🙌🙌
photo:huawei win
video:iPhone win
+Yalin Z 😃🙌
Just stumbled across your channel.Glad l did!!! Thanks for your honest and real reviews...I look forward to seeing you grow..Keep ↑ the great work😁
Sadly this phone is only available in a few countries. This phone is the perfect phone, it has speed, durability, awesome camera but it isn't available
You should compare it with Samsung Galaxy S8 or Google Pixel because you have the best comparison.
Almost all reviewers I have seen are always biased towards a particular brand. Some of them even showed that S7's camera was better than Google Pixel or iPhone 7's camera which is entirely false because I have compared both of them myself and S7 was buried into the ground by both.
You weren't a bit biased, you gave us the best points of both phones.
Also I'd really love to see the camera comparisons b/w Xperia XZs, S7, Pixel, Huawei P10 and iPhone 7.
+Vikas Sharma I'll make a list! 😃
kat4K Thank you 😃
Vikas Sharma samsung uses different camera sensors in their s7's phones and processors. you don't know how to use the phone's camera if you really think that the pixel and iPhone are better than the samsung galaxy s7 in a camera comparison.
Vikas Sharma all Huawei does is ripped off other oem's and phone manufacturers. the only thing Huawei has it going for them is their processor cause it's well optimized.
tech random tv Well it's my opinion, For me the iPhone and Pixel pictures looked better
most beautiful comparison i ve ever seen..... Beautiful, literally...
+Sebastian Schwan thank you, literally 😁😁
One of the best camera comparsion i´ve ever seen. GJ!
I swear ur vids are too legendary, u need more subs!!!
Can you review huawei p10 plus
+Ngoc Son the phones are pretty similar :)
hot really..there are many differences especially on rear cam..
Yeah but still the differences are miniscule... I think it's a waste of time to pay attention to them. A review of a completely different smartphone would be a way better choice ;)
6:35 you CAN turn off the electronic stabilization and it will get much much better.
Great video, one of the best reviews about this phone camera.
Thank you for your reviews and detailed comments which help me to chooses a selection of the phones.
finally, a proper real normal user review. not wasting time talking about specs, very less technical terms, just a normal person usage.
+pijesz jups, exactly!! 🙌😃😃💪
GREAT review. Hearing the opinion of non-geeky users is very nice.
And yes, more camera reviews please.
I like your conclusion at the end. Very accurate. iPhones, in addition to Galaxies are the easiest phones to get consistent good looking photos each and every time in auto mode.
+Aw Snap Thank youuuuuuu!! 😃💪
Really helpful video, thank you for the reviews and effort 🎊🎉
Also, you are beautiful 😊
can you please tell which camera is been used to make the video ? is it any go pro or any mobile camera or DSLR please tell me with details
i like huawei
subbed. great reviews, hope to watch more videos from your channel.
+Elijah TheForgottenOne yeeeey thank you!! 😃
Great review Kat :) pick the P10 plus up tomorrow in blue. tested the camera and blew me away from my trusty LG G4
I love your review, very honest and conscious that we're talking about a great phone camera, but still a phone camera not a pro yet it gives great results, I'm planning to move from p10lite to p10, just need to keep saving, thank you! ;)
Nice comparison & review ( in ur previous videos ), i like the way u preview the phone, just straight forward.
Keep it up, +1 Subscriber ^^
Great informative video kat ! The leica partnership really seems to be working out for Huawei!
+Mondi1911 yes!
this channel gonna be huge!!
+Mrkeith 😊😊
Good comparison!! Subscribed :D
+Dionysis Kastellanis thanks!! ☺️
Kat4K.. Fair comparison... I don't know others but I know my self I just love Huawei devices... And I m not a big fan of camera and selfies so It ll run for me. 😂..... I actually love it's design the most... So I m ready to buy what you ll prefer..... Thanks 🤔🙄
+Gaba Khan 😃😃
great review, thanks! But which one would you suggest forum battery and camera Quick shots? Saluti from Italy
I liked ur video. You're not only a beautiful face. U showed all the pros and cons in regards to the camera...giving examples of what you were going to talk. To be honest I would never spend that much in a smartphone. But we can't judge people for what they buy. I bought a leeco le max 2 for 250 bucks and I'm really happy with that. It comes with most of the features that top brands are offering today. And I saved some money for further updates. Cheers! From Brazil :) you've got a new subscriber. Thuuuuumbs upp
+Danilo Barros thank you!! 😃
kat4K
Huawei P10 Cam review is the 2nd reason & 2nd vid I watched, You've got beautiful eyes :) is the 1st :) sorry to be honest
Well looking fwd to Honor8 / Honor 8 Pro / P10. Currently using Honor 5c & hence looking fwd to Honor/Huawei phones!
Thank you Kat/whatever your name is. Beautiful eyes & beautiful smile :) Use less makeup pls :/
Got my Huawei P10 and its simply amazing! 5/5 stars!. Thanks to you for this very helpful review. I'm happy with my purchase... More power to you & more great videos to come.... ur the best! :)
+James Patrick Silos that's awesome to hear, thanks!! 😃
Thanks again! Huawei P10 rocks!!! :)
I have P10 and 100% you are correct. If you will use AUTO mode, it is better to go S8 for example but if you like creativity and playing with photos especially wide aperture mode and light painting mode, you will really enjoy huawei cameras not only P10 but you will like all huawei dual lens phones
which is better? in terms of autofocus in still images and autofocus in videos. Can the jerky effect be eliminates by disabling the OIS?
great video.....your English is very clear....I will buy a P10 plus nov 27th 2017 so for now I have P8 lite.....and I will make a lot of tutorials like this....to help others....best regards from Panama city Panama.
On FHD camera setting you have the ability to turn on OIS (on UHD not unfortunately) if it is turned on the panning is really smooth. I am really impressed with this camera, both the rear and back. Sometimes the rear is a bit noisy in low light situations. The phone itself is also really good. I recommend it. :D
Love your videos:) Greetings from Finland. And subbed;)
+Sami Lehtonen 👋 waving back from Slovenia!
the huawei p10 was the clear winner in pictures. the colors were just amazing. but i felt the video quality to be not as good when you were panning both phones and walking on the track. maybe some video settings on the p10 need to be adjusted.
edit: the front camera was pretty good. do you find yourself Switching to the p10 in the near future? 😜
very sincere reviews. Thank you!
+Voralak Vichapat you're welcome! 😃💪
and what would you recommend for this price range? somethng with a cool camera ?
hi friend. pretty good. work so u purchase these expensive phones to do youtube videos?
I noticed also this beauty effect despite everything was turned off, can i eliminate it somehow with the front face camera? maybe with another app?
just for curiosity's sake, can you please check what happens if one of the cameras is blocked while taking a picture or video? thanks
+urban metalgray aaargh i don't have the phone anymore 😔
Before indulging onto a test - comparison "in one" video, I'd suggest tuning in to Pocketnow's wide array of Real Camera Reviews playlist that would best suit your content.
Like I've said before, tech reviewers ought to have a more professional mindset when there are specifications on the table, and by going in depth too.
To be honest, you can just make a Mate 9 camera review beforehand and just give rough examples to prove that they are similar in both ways for the most parts.
+Chamf hey, thank you for your extensive comment! 😊
So what do you recommend iPhone 7 or P10 plus strictly on camera area
Excellent review 👍 .. I've subscribed 😀... Please We need Google Pixel review if possible
+Abdullah Barasheed will think about it!
Hey dear ...this is a ...best camera review of p10 ever
+Viren Dhiman hey kind commenter ... thank you. 😃😃
A pretty girl who does reviews as good as the best channels out there. Keep it up. Your reviews are so far the best ones I've seen so far. :D
thanks! :D
kat4K you're welcome. :)
Good video. You deserve more views and subscriber
+Hafiz Fiz thank you!! 😃 share it with your friends! 😊
The plus one gonna be my choice.. thank u for the video you done a very good job 😊
Laser autofocus is only very useful for anything less than 2-3m. The laser diode is very weak and has very low range. Anything beyond 2-3m is done by either contrast detection or phase detection autofocus
+Zony Yu i didn't know that, thank you! 😃 As you saw, i sampled it on close objects. For quick instagram snaps it works awesome. :) Thank you for your insight, much appreciated! 😊
No problem 😊 good job on the vids
I appreciated the P10 camera revuew. But did you notice the grain. This was already highlighted as a problem in P9 and P9 . Then I had a chance to check out a p10 shot and it had so much grain even at default size. The default ISO was 500. so I tried 100 and the grain was still there. Or is it that the display just shows the grain? I am not sure what would come out if jpg is shown on a HD TV or display.
There is SOME grain, but it's not really noticable at normal light. it just wants to push for as much detail as possible :)
Thanks a lot for the useful video. After watching it, I got the answers for my enquiries ,therefore I ganna buy this phone. Thanks Kat4k
I am the type who prefers 'take photo and put away'. Can you suggest a few phones for this criteria?
+EmoPro93 every iphone ever. Every photo will look ok. If you want it to be awesome, it needs a bit more work, as with other cameras :)
Hahahah! I have the same thought too. Iphones really do have the best camera for fast pictures. Do you have or plan to do videos reviewing iphone cameras? (and also other phones' camera if possible)
Hey
Great wideo I have iphone 6s 64gb wondering if i schould change on huawei p10
subscribed! awesome review :) pozdrav iz Rijeke
+Daniela V. Yeeey!! 🙌🙌😃💕
I've been watching other famous RUclips reviewers and I can compare them to you. You're really doing a great job! Subscribe! And also, I hope you review other brands
+Luigi Obiña thanks! 😊
Hi kat4k , i live in Italy , i've a LG Nexus 5x and i'd like to upgrade my phone, the 5x has a good camera f2.0 with pixel 1.55 micron ad i'm very satisfied of the results in low light . P10 would like next step because for me is important a little phone 5.1-5.2 max , more speed ,elegance ,top processor in this little phone (kirin 960) , 4gb ram,front sensor . But the question is on camera : do you think p10 is better or equal than 5x or worse? thanks
honor 8 vs P10 , camera and overall comparison in your opinion?
+Aleksandar Mićanović you get what you pay for. Honor 8 is awesome -for it's price. And p10 is just proportionaly awesomer. 😃
Does the front camera have a manual focus? just like iphone? thanks
can you do a honor 8 and p10 camera comparison?
+Little Miss Box Reader hm, i might be able to do that!
please review the p10 plus camera as it does have a bigger 1.8 aperture on the back!
+ImThunderdzn maybe!
Great review well done! :D
+That_Nice_Guy_From_Holland thanks!
Super ocena, pogrešam pa kaj več o PRO opciji, ki je zame pri P10 (in P9) zmagovalna.
+Ajda Sitar Thanks! Si poleg tega, da se da nastavljati vse tri parametre (iso, shutter speed, zaslonka) odkrila še kakšno posebnost? :)
Thanks for the nice comparison :)
I think Apple and Samsung are still ahead in video mode. But Huawei is doing a great job in manual mode photos.
You sold the P10 already?
im really glad that you seems like all the huawei product , btw where are you from ?
+yu wei Teoh Slovenia, Europe! 😃
The most beautiful youtuber in the world.
Nice... enjoyed watching your review... some good thoughts and comments...
+jonah travisano thanks!! 😃
Hey, you really do read most of your comments, so I appreciate it. Do you know what ways I can get the Huawei p10 since I am in the US? What trusted and respectful sellers sell Huawei p10 and deliver to US? I heard that certain model works with at&t and t-mobile and I am a t-mobile customer. If you are able to help me I would be very grateful.
I have an IPhone 7 and I was thinking about buying P10 for the camera .. but I decided to keep the iPhone when I watched this video ... You have been very helpful to me, Thank you...
+Omar Yarub good choice 😊😊
the P10's power is at it's capabilities in manual mode, unlike the iPhone's little spinny aperture that tunes exposure...
+Hunziker Ernesto exactly!! 😊
Honest review. Subscribed.
+epocalypseful thank you!! 😃
Love from Bangladesh 😊
You explain better, thanks
Which phone would you recommend for someone that just wants to take a picture fast? 😅
The most beautiful tech reviewer i ever saw
Can u revisit the topic? There was an update that improved the huawei p10 camera
øsm review wants more videos watch from you.... and thanks for reviews such an excellent videos☺
+Muneer P 😃🙌
Nice speaking. very clear and easily understood by an old guy like me
anyone who know's the song playing in the background starting at 03:21?
How do you get the phones? For larger RUclipsrs I can see it being easier but you only have about 3K subscribers. Do you buy them? Or rent them, etc.
+Sur_Superior no, PR agencies lend them to me, for a limited amount of time :)
so..good review...and thank you so much..the best you tell about phone..how to use😀.
+Hafiz Fiz 😃🙌
hey Kat have you tried the Pixel?
+Minh Cong Bui sadly not yet :)
im using a s7 edge but i think im falling for the Pixel, finally an Android phone that's just as smooth as the newest iPhone.
When the Pixel 2 comes out with water resistance i'll save up and get one for myself.
Why you do review only of Huawei phones?
u should try on the night shot mode , light painting mode , thats the camera i want
+yu wei Teoh 🙌😃
i watch this full video become your talking style is so wonderful that i can't move my face-off from this video
+The little ALN_웃 😊
Is this your daily driver now? The camera looks nice but bad stabilization always throws me off 😶
Subscribed ❤❤
Very nice review and very beautiful Girl
I want to know what is the name of music at the first of vid ?
+Bo Ny the link to the music should be in the description of every video 😉
kat4K sorry there is no links for music
Just music: spaceeee
I know that the Honor 8 doesn't have OIS, is that a problem on the Huawei P10?
+jacquan Jenkins it does have OIS, but i guess it relies heavily on the digital stabilization. 😕
You are so pretty 😍
btw nice review 😁
+M Rayz Rocks 😊
Regarding your comment at the end of the video, which phone would you buy just for the camera (excluding the Google pixel and iPhone 7+) if you are a person that likes to play with iso, aperture, speed, etc.?
you are so pretty, and it is a relatable and great review, considering you are reviewing it from an average consumer perspective
+Kok Wei thank you and yes, i am 😊
Really amazing videos!
Well done. Nice review. Subbed! :)
+Seki952 🙌 thanks!!
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Is this phone p10 plus is better ?