The new tech when done correctly, should be around 1.2 seconds faster, since I have just discovered it, I was a bit slow in doing the rotation with new tech. This 1.2 seconds difference may not seem much, but in the long run it does create a noticeable difference. For those who are wondering why I said u should look for basic attack damage from echo substats, the majority of her damage is considered as basic attack damage - the damage from her liberation, forte circuit.
I am actually amazed at Kuro solves issues now with older characters with the echo system. Also the cancel tech is chefs kiss, easily my least favourite part of her got alot better with that.
New sets that are tailored to characters is nothing new. Only downside with the echo system is that it is by far the slowest gearing system out of all 4 games I play. In terms of gearing speed I have found ZZZ is by far the fastest, HSR comes in second although the extra stats do cause issues sometimes, Genshin can actually be second or even first for gearing speed if you can strongbox a set, and last is WuWa. Of course Kurobots will say that they have unlimited farming, but the reality is that farming routes are tedious and a major time sink, and I reserve them for stubborn pieces.
@@Osprey1994I agree with you. I finished farming for Miyabi like in the first week. While for Camellya I just got some decent crownless, but now I have to farm for new nightmare crownless lol.
@@Osprey1994Honestly early game gearing sucks i agree but after ur high lv i find it the easiest one ngl or maybe i'm just lucky, wuwa devs are amazing so i hope they may fix if it is needed
@@amirtiwari3936I've been using her as a Main DPS this entire time she's so fun to use I don't even need to dodge just unga bunga teleport with skill I think people just gargle Content Creator meat soo hard they have them think for them. Like sheep.
Zhezhi might also be crazy strong as a main dps with sanhua and youhu. Since her liberation counts as coordinated and basic attacks she will be super buffed with the new sonata set and youhu buff an sanhua buff
If you had been using moonlit on her, her echo can be moved to Sanhua. Nothing wasted. If you have been using the glacio set, it can be moved to Lingyang.
@@DEATHARMY926 Ye, since before Carlotta we have no true Glacio DPS. He's filling that role, but later on I moved that role to Zhezhi since she is dealing pretty nice damage. Anyhow, Lingyang is good enough with support Zhezhi and 5* Gauntlet (I use Yao's sig).
i was searching about her possible team comps but found only carlotta/jinhsi setups. do u really use her only with them or found out something by yourself ?
I actually pulled her over carlotta for my jinshi because even if i have carlotta and Jinshi but no zhezhi both of them would do significantly less dmg, lvl her up dropped her on my Jinshi team with shorekeeper and jinshi and her just slapping everything compared yuwanwu. Will see what asterites i can get from the new area and events and try for Carlotta if not will just wait for the rerun.
Did you pull for the zhezhi weapon?? Coz I also did the same thing as you. As I was getting rotation problems for jinhsi and I can't be able to decide whether to pull the zhezhi sig or not. I am currently using cosmic ripples on her. But do we get extra benefits to the main onfield dps by using her sig as a support???
@AmithRawal-uy8gg If you are using zhezhi as just a support, her signature weapon isn't worth it as it will increase overall team's damage by less than 3%
Maybe I missed it here, but does anyone here know the approximate team-wide damage increase switching to the new set? Is it like 5%? 10%? more? Just questioning whether I should use all my echo resources into this new set for Zhezhi.
the "new tech" is interesting but I feel like we lose a lot of damage by skipping all three skills since it deals a pretty good amount of damage once leveled up. Idk just my two cents
When you have good echoes on Zhezhi, you don't want to jump-cancel her resonant skill. My Zhezhi is doing good amount of dmg, that I don't think it's worth losing it out for 1.2 seconds faster rotation. EDIT: ^ is incorrect, the skill is not cancelled, attack still performed. Unless you have some gamebreaking/speedrunning tech in mind. Normal players, just play her normally.
Ah I though it was actually something new. Didn't realize tech cancel was not a common knowledge, so yeah almost all moves in the game can be cancelled you just have to find the point where the attack/move registers and you can just cancel the rest of the animation with either dodging/dashing, swapping, echo skill, liberation or jumping.
I really confuse which one? Moonlit : 22,5% ATK + 12% DMG dealt (heron) for your DPS, zhezhi get no damage increase Empyrean : 20% ATK for your DPS, zhezhi get 120% coordinated atk dmg (40% from hecate + 80% from empyrean set) Which one dealt more overall team damage exactly?
I would like to know this as well, I have read that the new set does increase the overall damage, because Zhezhi does good damage and increasing that damage contributes more to the team damage then buffing an already buffed main dps, like Jinshi or Carlotta. Take that with a grain of salt though, not sure the source is reliable, but it would make sense imo.
@@ShadowHunter002 I'm in a few TC discords, and we're running calc's of this. For a Carlotta team, switching Zhezhi to Empyrean gives about a 6% team dmg uplift.
Regarding echo combination I don't think Prydwen updated their calcs and depending on the weapon that you use with the new set I wouldn't be suprised if 44111 combos or 43311 combos with dmg% + atk% 3-cost (or even double atk% 3-cost) are more viable now. With Cosmic Ripple, which already gives a ton of atk% and a decent amount of dmg% on top of the already high dmg% she gets from the new set, while at the same time lacking crit, 44111 seems pretty good in theory, but I haven't seen calcs yet and too busy to calc for myself atm (at the very least, even if it's still worse, I doubt it's by much now). With her sig, I think 43311 with dmg% + atk% 3-cost is the way.
I got Carlotta and panicked when I saw everyone was saying zhezhi was her bis support 😭 I was kinda looking to get her anyway since everyone was using her for jinshi as-well so she must be good. so now I’m here learning how to build this op character I don’t even know why I skipped her in the first place probably because everyone was doggin on her at her first release and I already had yinlin but now she’s a means to an end so I bit the bullet and used my second garuntee on her, I hope Brant comes home still ☠️
I have Carlotta S6, so is it better to use Moonlit Clouds as it will provide more dmg to my her or should I still use the new set for Zhezhi to make Zhezhi deal more dmg as well?
zhezhi is part of my 3 main/favorite teams lmao. she was SO worth the lost 50/50 when she came around. ironically theyre basically all the same team rotations lmao. sk/zhezhi/changli (quickswap galore, this team feels buttery smooth and the new coordinated attack set pairs PERFECTLY with it because i dont need to focus solely on their outros or the heron's buff effects from the moonlit set) sk/zhezhi/jinhsi: the former king of deeps team, with new tech this team also feels a tad stronger than before, and both of the dps work phenomenally at s0 (altho i do have both their weapons) and finally, my new favorite team with carlotta. i thought jinhsi's damage was absurd but carlotta is a walking howitzer. i still havent found much that can surive a full rotation from the team. i wanna see what 2.1 releases first (the beta tests should be midswing right before her banner ends hopefully), but i have enough saved up i could put some sequences into carlotta, and im strongly considering it because her sequences are all pretty strong/QoL to just make her rotations smoother/faster.
Apparently hecate drops also include a guaranteed crit rate and crit dmg pack with all the old elemental sonata sets. Are they worth using if u already have a well built yin lin or zhezhi with dps build so they can still play sub and have damage?
I lost my savings, but now I have Carlotta (1 Calcharo secuence at the process) and Zhezhi that was the original plan because I have Jinshi and her weapon. Now I'm trying to get Carlotta's weapon, but I need to keep farming astrites 😅
Just got her with one random pull - I was doing Carlotta/Changli quick swap but very glad to have lucked into her support and now she can go with Jinhsi too.
Depends entirely on your team. In a classic Jinhsi Zhezhi comp where J does 80+% of the dmg, maybe. But if Zhezhi is doing considerably higher percent then it could very well be worth it
Heron isn't the worst for her since you can throw it out anywhere in your rotation, unless you like that min-max Heron switch damage. Otherwise, you can Heron into a mid-air combo transition that you cancel after getting that first hit in, then prep your transition into a character swap. Other units have an extremely annoying 'getting out of the air' phase if you don't do the immediate ground slam version of Heron
It's a big bonus. Way easier to play than Yuanwu since you don't have to worry about staying within thunder wedge, and Jinshi's nuke gets way stronger. I can hit 400k nukes pretty easily with Zhezhi
Wait why did you get Yinlin's weapon if you don't have her instead of Camellya's weapon? Anyway if you want a strong 2nd DPS get Carlotta or Jinshi, if you want to make your Camellya stronger get Roccia. But Sanhua is good enough so the best value would be Carlotta.
@@hypergordon4467 do you have Encore? Put Yinlin's weapon on her and she'll do fine. As for Camellya, you should get Roccia, this patch she's in the 2nd phase banners. She's the best teammate for Camellya. And then selec the 5star Sword on the Standard Weapon banner and try to get it for Camellya.
Guys do i need zhezhi i dont like her , came back to the game, got carlotta . Do i need carlottas weapon or do i use standard one. I don’t know if i should pull jinshi , i kinda like brant , i have 5300 astrites im lvl 35 have calcharo, jianxin and verina 5 star I don’t know what to do LOL
@@heatherxo4374Shorekeeper is a MUST. We don't know if Brant will be as good as Shorekeeper (both are support/healer). If you really like Jihnsi, roll for her, or else wait for another future dps that you like. Sub-dps/buffer characters have greater value due to their usefulness and are those that last longer over time
I got carlotta and her signature, i hv camellia and her signature, and still hv 65 pulls and im in garanteed next T5. My doubt is: Do i take zhezhi or roccia? Ill only get 1 of them. What are you guys opinion?
Personally, I have a huge bias for zhezhi as she fits into a lot of teams, but also works in tandem with Carlotta. Roccia is fun to play and would work with camellya, but there are plenty of other havoc dps you can fill in that slot instead. Can't say the same about glacio, however
Zhezhi, because Roccia already had a very powerful alternative - Sanhua. On the other hand, Zhezhi's slot doesn't have any good unit to replace her, only Taoqi and Lumi but there are very clunky to use
Verina ~ Shorekeeper > Youhu Youhu is actually good (with Zhezhi), but setting her echo is pain, as she want Trifecta echo. Youhu contributes to the team by actually doing some damage at the cost of more field time. Verina should still be the best, since her field time is very little and she can fit any team. Also her echo is cheap, as long as you got ATK (Even flat ATK) is enough. Shorekeeper when compared to Verina is the stronger buffer at the cost of slighly increased field time and stricter team composition and rotation. Far less restriction on S1. Echo at least need HP% and ER (to 250%).
not because she is bad, but because her design is subpar and seems to be made for fanservices and westerners arent into cute girls instead they prefered mature like yin lin and changli. and also, because yin lin already a coordinated support.
But am I wrong or moonlight set buffs More than This set, even the echo buff your dps, I Don't Want to zhezhi to do More dmg I just Want My carlotta doing the dps, zhezhi Don't really hit the enemy if U compare her with carlotta right? I just ask Don't really know
I can see why it's not worth it. You'll collect more as you progress in the game and pull. Use what you have available until you get the standard 5 star rectifier is my suggestion.
@@oscara8454 Playing since 1.2, about 500 pulls in and still missing many 4 star weapons and only a single one is at R2. Goldfish / dolphin. At this rate it will be *years* before the average player is expected to be at R5 on them and any guide made now will be long out of date by then in any case. Not asking to have every weapon in the table with R1, just the rng gatcha ones so that's like 2 extra lines at most.
I have carlotta and basic attack damage does nothing for her she pretty much scales off skill damage her liberation is also based off resonance skill damage the higher the better
You will want - crit rate -crit damage - attack% - Res skill damage - flat attack - energy regen Those are the best suited for her I would know bc she hits at about 24k+ with her liberation and that's the first part and last part of it the rest is about 11k+
BTW that's with a 4* weapon not tuned and she is C0 Edit - she is level 80 and the weapon is level 70 bc I'm working on getting the weapon being I'm a f2p
Don't go for resonance skill damage. Most of her damage is considered as basic attack damage (Her liberation, and the forte attacks that you cast using Resonance skill. You can read the in game description if you think I am making things up)
Depends on how many pulls you have, if you can get rid of the lost pity, Zhezhi is a better option since she improves the mechanics of your team. If you don't have so many pulls, or you want to save up to another banners, the gun is a safe option
Zhezhi is a bigger upgrade to the carlotta team overall but is also more expensive (can lose 50/50) Weopon is guaranteed power as you cant get spooked.
@zerefuuutv should i skip her since her Yinlin is Jinhsi's 2nd option? I was planning to roll on Roccia since i also have Cammelya and they're the only 2 dps i have atm
@@zarathustra_1 you could just play Yinlin in Jinhsi team and go pull for Roccia. That way your account is gonna get more stronger cause Roccia is the best support for Camellya and will not be replaced by another support. She's a dedicated Havoc dmg and basic atk buffer btw Zhezhi on the other hand can still be replaced in Jinhsi teams if a dedicated spectro dmg buffer will be released.
@@zarathustra_1 its just a matter of preferance, Camellya will be stronger with Roccia but she has Sanhua to buff her as strong alternative, while Jinhsi rotation is better with Zhezhi but her alternative support is Yuanwu is worse but there's also Taoqi but cant build her forte gauge, Yinlin can be used on Jinhsi team but like Yuanwu she is just there to build her forte. As for their looks and character designs and other stuff, thats for you to decide.
Iam quite lukcy in this patch 😊 40 pity rate on pulling Carlotte within 30 pulls then 20 pulls got signature. Next day try my luck 10 pulls from current patch event aesterite and got Zhenshi😅
@@Raydr62 1. Liberation is not her main damage sourse, on;y accounting for 40% of damage. 2. She requires 0% extra ER 3. E jump cancels is fun, but yields no extra dps, not to mention he did not perfom them correctly. 4. Not even her best rotation. Just another child of prydwen.
@@Crazmuss I can tell you don't know what you're talking about either lol E jump canceling yields about a ful second faster rotation. Saves you about 5-6 seconds in total which is not needed but its optimization none the less. Her main damage source IS her ultimate. It accounts for over 80% of her damage. Even moreso with her new cordinated attack set For the last 5 months every single guide posted on youtube and online suggests 23% energy regen on her from substats. That same energy substat has also been on nearly all of her clears in end game that have been posted lol.
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The new tech when done correctly, should be around 1.2 seconds faster, since I have just discovered it, I was a bit slow in doing the rotation with new tech.
This 1.2 seconds difference may not seem much, but in the long run it does create a noticeable difference.
For those who are wondering why I said u should look for basic attack damage from echo substats, the majority of her damage is considered as basic attack damage - the damage from her liberation, forte circuit.
uh, this implies you’ve discovered the tech yourself. you haven’t. i’d give credit where credit is due if it was up to me. 😐
Fr, sometimes you don´t get 3 stars for 1-3 sec, that can be really usefull for it
why look for basic attack damage when the new tech just cancels out her attacks?
@@HuyNguyen-mf9fi cause her coord is considered basic attack
@@sweatdropsswhen nobody shows you something and you figure it out for yourself, you call that discovery dumbass.
I am actually amazed at Kuro solves issues now with older characters with the echo system.
Also the cancel tech is chefs kiss, easily my least favourite part of her got alot better with that.
they did something similar in PGR with leap skills that basically bufed older characters
@@Necr0e1 Leap will still come with Dream Synchro
New sets that are tailored to characters is nothing new. Only downside with the echo system is that it is by far the slowest gearing system out of all 4 games I play. In terms of gearing speed I have found ZZZ is by far the fastest, HSR comes in second although the extra stats do cause issues sometimes, Genshin can actually be second or even first for gearing speed if you can strongbox a set, and last is WuWa. Of course Kurobots will say that they have unlimited farming, but the reality is that farming routes are tedious and a major time sink, and I reserve them for stubborn pieces.
@@Osprey1994I agree with you. I finished farming for Miyabi like in the first week. While for Camellya I just got some decent crownless, but now I have to farm for new nightmare crownless lol.
@@Osprey1994Honestly early game gearing sucks i agree but after ur high lv i find it the easiest one ngl or maybe i'm just lucky, wuwa devs are amazing so i hope they may fix if it is needed
The way everyone switched up on zhezhi is crazy 😂
Did everybody not like her or smth?
@@VarietyCastle Yes, they even said she was the easiest skip and she made the least money WuWa ever made in a banner.
My Zhezhi literally does as much damage as DPS even as a support. I didn't know that she had a bad reputation.
@@amirtiwari3936I've been using her as a Main DPS this entire time she's so fun to use I don't even need to dodge just unga bunga teleport with skill I think people just gargle Content Creator meat soo hard they have them think for them. Like sheep.
Lol I do have her since her banner out I do get her at 20 pity lol
Zhezhi might also be crazy strong as a main dps with sanhua and youhu.
Since her liberation counts as coordinated and basic attacks she will be super buffed with the new sonata set and youhu buff an sanhua buff
her damage is good mostly for single target, but dps zhezhi can indeed clear tower
If you had been using moonlit on her, her echo can be moved to Sanhua.
Nothing wasted.
If you have been using the glacio set, it can be moved to Lingyang.
welp, i lost 50/50 to lingyang for my carlotta pulls
Same thing I said with sanhua but I hate lion boy. I’ve never built the old glacio set
Lingyang are you serious 💀
@@DEATHARMY926
Ye, since before Carlotta we have no true Glacio DPS. He's filling that role, but later on I moved that role to Zhezhi since she is dealing pretty nice damage.
Anyhow, Lingyang is good enough with support Zhezhi and 5* Gauntlet (I use Yao's sig).
I was curious about the new support set since i just got Zhezhi today. So thanks for this mate
i do think the extra crit rate on her S1 would help greatly for the new sonata effect. remember it triggers upon crit. so having more crit is better
Man that jump cancel isn't just a sl;ight improvement, it makes things so much better! More dps time for Carlotta and Jhinshi
Awesome guide bro. Just got her today for free. This helped me catch up with her kit and all.
Great video, thanks !
zhezhi main ever since 1.2 here
i was searching about her possible team comps but found only carlotta/jinhsi setups. do u really use her only with them or found out something by yourself ?
I pulled Zhezhi cuz she was precious in the story. Now she’s a game changer for my Carlotta. Happy times.
I actually pulled her over carlotta for my jinshi because even if i have carlotta and Jinshi but no zhezhi both of them would do significantly less dmg, lvl her up dropped her on my Jinshi team with shorekeeper and jinshi and her just slapping everything compared yuwanwu. Will see what asterites i can get from the new area and events and try for Carlotta if not will just wait for the rerun.
Did you pull for the zhezhi weapon??
Coz I also did the same thing as you. As I was getting rotation problems for jinhsi and I can't be able to decide whether to pull the zhezhi sig or not.
I am currently using cosmic ripples on her.
But do we get extra benefits to the main onfield dps by using her sig as a support???
@AmithRawal-uy8gg If you are using zhezhi as just a support, her signature weapon isn't worth it as it will increase overall team's damage by less than 3%
@AmithRawal-uy8ggyinlins weapon is better, especially with the new echos set that wants you to crit with coords at least once every 4 second
@@DatroVoided I see thanks for your advice.
I will try to pull it in the next rerun!!
@@pavankumarachanti okay mate thanks for your advice!!
Nice and easy to follow coming from a new player unlike other CCs
i honestly thought there are only 2 imprints when i skill watching ur video helped me with her rotation thanks :)
Maybe I missed it here, but does anyone here know the approximate team-wide damage increase switching to the new set? Is it like 5%? 10%? more? Just questioning whether I should use all my echo resources into this new set for Zhezhi.
Not so much, barely any difference for team damage
Very good update video. This time I summoned her and now I understand her playstyle.
the "new tech" is interesting but I feel like we lose a lot of damage by skipping all three skills since it deals a pretty good amount of damage once leveled up. Idk just my two cents
It doesn't cancel the damage, just the animation.
She deals the same amount of damage but a bit faster.
THANKYOU !! I NEEDED A NEW UPDATE THAT WORKS FOR CARLOTTA
When you have good echoes on Zhezhi, you don't want to jump-cancel her resonant skill.
My Zhezhi is doing good amount of dmg, that I don't think it's worth losing it out for 1.2 seconds faster rotation.
EDIT: ^ is incorrect, the skill is not cancelled, attack still performed.
Unless you have some gamebreaking/speedrunning tech in mind.
Normal players, just play her normally.
Share your stats pls thanks
He's cancelling the animation, not the skill. He does just as much damage as you, but faster.
@@Claudekr I see.
Thx for clarify, was assuming it's completely cancelled.
Ah I though it was actually something new. Didn't realize tech cancel was not a common knowledge, so yeah almost all moves in the game can be cancelled you just have to find the point where the attack/move registers and you can just cancel the rest of the animation with either dodging/dashing, swapping, echo skill, liberation or jumping.
Why not use liberstion eraly for more stack for jinshi?
I really confuse which one?
Moonlit : 22,5% ATK + 12% DMG dealt (heron) for your DPS, zhezhi get no damage increase
Empyrean : 20% ATK for your DPS, zhezhi get 120% coordinated atk dmg (40% from hecate + 80% from empyrean set)
Which one dealt more overall team damage exactly?
by pure feelscrafting, I'd say Moonlit for Jinhsi, new set for Carlotta
Depends entirely on how well built they are, what your rotations are, etc
I would like to know this as well, I have read that the new set does increase the overall damage, because Zhezhi does good damage and increasing that damage contributes more to the team damage then buffing an already buffed main dps, like Jinshi or Carlotta.
Take that with a grain of salt though, not sure the source is reliable, but it would make sense imo.
@@ShadowHunter002 I'm in a few TC discords, and we're running calc's of this. For a Carlotta team, switching Zhezhi to Empyrean gives about a 6% team dmg uplift.
@@benjamink2398 let's assume both echo set get the same roll, does it decrease or increase team damage?
Regarding echo combination I don't think Prydwen updated their calcs and depending on the weapon that you use with the new set I wouldn't be suprised if 44111 combos or 43311 combos with dmg% + atk% 3-cost (or even double atk% 3-cost) are more viable now. With Cosmic Ripple, which already gives a ton of atk% and a decent amount of dmg% on top of the already high dmg% she gets from the new set, while at the same time lacking crit, 44111 seems pretty good in theory, but I haven't seen calcs yet and too busy to calc for myself atm (at the very least, even if it's still worse, I doubt it's by much now). With her sig, I think 43311 with dmg% + atk% 3-cost is the way.
I got Carlotta and panicked when I saw everyone was saying zhezhi was her bis support 😭 I was kinda looking to get her anyway since everyone was using her for jinshi as-well so she must be good.
so now I’m here learning how to build this op character I don’t even know why I skipped her in the first place probably because everyone was doggin on her at her first release and I already had yinlin but now she’s a means to an end so I bit the bullet and used my second garuntee on her, I hope Brant comes home still ☠️
I have Carlotta S6, so is it better to use Moonlit Clouds as it will provide more dmg to my her or should I still use the new set for Zhezhi to make Zhezhi deal more dmg as well?
Yes
Probably moonlit
zhezhi is part of my 3 main/favorite teams lmao. she was SO worth the lost 50/50 when she came around.
ironically theyre basically all the same team rotations lmao.
sk/zhezhi/changli (quickswap galore, this team feels buttery smooth and the new coordinated attack set pairs PERFECTLY with it because i dont need to focus solely on their outros or the heron's buff effects from the moonlit set)
sk/zhezhi/jinhsi: the former king of deeps team, with new tech this team also feels a tad stronger than before, and both of the dps work phenomenally at s0 (altho i do have both their weapons)
and finally, my new favorite team with carlotta. i thought jinhsi's damage was absurd but carlotta is a walking howitzer. i still havent found much that can surive a full rotation from the team. i wanna see what 2.1 releases first (the beta tests should be midswing right before her banner ends hopefully), but i have enough saved up i could put some sequences into carlotta, and im strongly considering it because her sequences are all pretty strong/QoL to just make her rotations smoother/faster.
Apparently hecate drops also include a guaranteed crit rate and crit dmg pack with all the old elemental sonata sets. Are they worth using if u already have a well built yin lin or zhezhi with dps build so they can still play sub and have damage?
It’s worth building if you have nothing else to work on for future characters.
I lost my savings, but now I have Carlotta (1 Calcharo secuence at the process) and Zhezhi that was the original plan because I have Jinshi and her weapon. Now I'm trying to get Carlotta's weapon, but I need to keep farming astrites 😅
I'm working on astrites for Carlotta's weapon as well.
Would love to hear your guide on LingYang
Especially him with the new ice echo set
Yes, I’m having skill issues with him in the tower lol
@@Saberdud same here, however it seems like he isn't that bad according to some CN players
I got her s2 in the 1st run. I hope to get her s4 before her banner runs out so i can save for s6 on her next rerun again
By using the new sets, is there any change to ER requirement for herself or the DPS's ER req ?
Dang, your voice is getting better and better. New mic? Anyway I prefer this over AI voice as always.
I'm pretty sure this was AI, it's just getting better. It was great at the start, but it started slipping up a little later on. Solid AI though.
Just got her with one random pull - I was doing Carlotta/Changli quick swap but very glad to have lucked into her support and now she can go with Jinhsi too.
I skipped her on the first banner but now I won’t. I love her personality.
I got zhezhi on her first run, i used her as my main dps with sanhua and shorekeeper until Camellya released..
really? you managed to 30/30 ToA with her?
It is not worth to farm the new echo set if you already have moonlit clouds
Depends entirely on your team. In a classic Jinhsi Zhezhi comp where J does 80+% of the dmg, maybe. But if Zhezhi is doing considerably higher percent then it could very well be worth it
I'm waiting for a newecho set for her, finally it's here ❤ i do not like that imp heron cant be cast while midair which makes my gameplay clunky
Heron isn't the worst for her since you can throw it out anywhere in your rotation, unless you like that min-max Heron switch damage. Otherwise, you can Heron into a mid-air combo transition that you cancel after getting that first hit in, then prep your transition into a character swap. Other units have an extremely annoying 'getting out of the air' phase if you don't do the immediate ground slam version of Heron
Tyvm
should i pull her, i have jinhsi and is it much of an upgrade from yuanwu?
It's a big bonus. Way easier to play than Yuanwu since you don't have to worry about staying within thunder wedge, and Jinshi's nuke gets way stronger. I can hit 400k nukes pretty easily with Zhezhi
I am a new player. I pulled Camalya and Yinlin's weapon. Can someone tell me what characters I should focus on pulling.
Wait why did you get Yinlin's weapon if you don't have her instead of Camellya's weapon? Anyway if you want a strong 2nd DPS get Carlotta or Jinshi, if you want to make your Camellya stronger get Roccia. But Sanhua is good enough so the best value would be Carlotta.
@@hypergordon4467 do you have Encore? Put Yinlin's weapon on her and she'll do fine.
As for Camellya, you should get Roccia, this patch she's in the 2nd phase banners. She's the best teammate for Camellya. And then selec the 5star Sword on the Standard Weapon banner and try to get it for Camellya.
Guys do i need zhezhi i dont like her , came back to the game, got carlotta . Do i need carlottas weapon or do i use standard one. I don’t know if i should pull jinshi , i kinda like brant , i have 5300 astrites im lvl 35 have calcharo, jianxin and verina 5 star I don’t know what to do LOL
I also want shorekeeper shes cute
@@heatherxo4374Shorekeeper is a MUST. We don't know if Brant will be as good as Shorekeeper (both are support/healer).
If you really like Jihnsi, roll for her, or else wait for another future dps that you like. Sub-dps/buffer characters have greater value due to their usefulness and are those that last longer over time
Zhezhi is a good reason for never judging a sub DPS character that provides attribute dmg buffs, people thought she was shit in 1.2 😂
I got carlotta and her signature, i hv camellia and her signature, and still hv 65 pulls and im in garanteed next T5. My doubt is: Do i take zhezhi or roccia? Ill only get 1 of them. What are you guys opinion?
Personally, I have a huge bias for zhezhi as she fits into a lot of teams, but also works in tandem with Carlotta. Roccia is fun to play and would work with camellya, but there are plenty of other havoc dps you can fill in that slot instead. Can't say the same about glacio, however
Zhezhi, because Roccia already had a very powerful alternative - Sanhua. On the other hand, Zhezhi's slot doesn't have any good unit to replace her, only Taoqi and Lumi but there are very clunky to use
Who would you say is the best healer besides shorekeeper ? Please reply I just got back into the game and got zhezhi and Carlotta
Verina
@ how would I play this team comp, idk how to use buffs correctly in this game yet and I can’t find any guides
@@ourworldsix7137 idk man, i dont have Carlotta but i think Zhezhi rotation is the same on nearly every team comp
Verina ~ Shorekeeper > Youhu
Youhu is actually good (with Zhezhi), but setting her echo is pain, as she want Trifecta echo.
Youhu contributes to the team by actually doing some damage at the cost of more field time.
Verina should still be the best, since her field time is very little and she can fit any team.
Also her echo is cheap, as long as you got ATK (Even flat ATK) is enough.
Shorekeeper when compared to Verina is the stronger buffer at the cost of slighly increased field time and stricter team composition and rotation.
Far less restriction on S1.
Echo at least need HP% and ER (to 250%).
@@ourworldsix7137can you read ? Lol the game explains how to play
zhezhi m2 help jenshi rotation?
I remember when she came out in 1.2 everyone said she's bad and needed skip
not because she is bad, but because her design is subpar and seems to be made for fanservices and westerners arent into cute girls instead they prefered mature like yin lin and changli. and also, because yin lin already a coordinated support.
But am I wrong or moonlight set buffs More than This set, even the echo buff your dps, I Don't Want to zhezhi to do More dmg I just Want My carlotta doing the dps, zhezhi Don't really hit the enemy if U compare her with carlotta right? I just ask Don't really know
I use Zhezhi as the main DPS. Would the new set be overall more DPS than Freezing Frost?
Hmm, yes she would get more attack bonuses.
Could you include R1 versions of 4 star gacha weapons in the comparison table as that's a far more likely scenario for most players please.
I can see why it's not worth it. You'll collect more as you progress in the game and pull. Use what you have available until you get the standard 5 star rectifier is my suggestion.
@@oscara8454 Playing since 1.2, about 500 pulls in and still missing many 4 star weapons and only a single one is at R2. Goldfish / dolphin. At this rate it will be *years* before the average player is expected to be at R5 on them and any guide made now will be long out of date by then in any case.
Not asking to have every weapon in the table with R1, just the rng gatcha ones so that's like 2 extra lines at most.
I have carlotta and basic attack damage does nothing for her she pretty much scales off skill damage her liberation is also based off resonance skill damage the higher the better
Zhezhi buffs skill damage when she switches out, iirc. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Zhezhi herself scales off basic attack
I think basic atk increases the damage of your zhezhi instead of your carlotta, since zhezhi's coordinated atk considered basic atk
You will want
- crit rate
-crit damage
- attack%
- Res skill damage
- flat attack
- energy regen
Those are the best suited for her I would know bc she hits at about 24k+ with her liberation and that's the first part and last part of it the rest is about 11k+
BTW that's with a 4* weapon not tuned and she is C0
Edit - she is level 80 and the weapon is level 70 bc I'm working on getting the weapon being I'm a f2p
or just build your main dps to be strong enough that you will have to less care about subdps stats
Don't go for resonance skill damage. Most of her damage is considered as basic attack damage (Her liberation, and the forte attacks that you cast using Resonance skill. You can read the in game description if you think I am making things up)
Good timing, I got Charlotta but I'm confused, if I should get Zhizhi or Carlotta weapon (I have the standard 5 star gun)
Zhezi
Her sign will add around 20-25% more dmg compared to the blue , but zhezi buff will add 40 yo 45 more dmg
Depends on how many pulls you have, if you can get rid of the lost pity, Zhezhi is a better option since she improves the mechanics of your team. If you don't have so many pulls, or you want to save up to another banners, the gun is a safe option
Zhezhi is a bigger upgrade to the carlotta team overall but is also more expensive (can lose 50/50) Weopon is guaranteed power as you cant get spooked.
get the gun for the drip it's safer too
Is she worth pulling if i have Yinlin for Jinhsi?
Ofcourse. Yinlin provides almost nothing for Jinhsi. Zhezhi is Jinhsi's goated teammate for now
@zerefuuutv should i skip her since her Yinlin is Jinhsi's 2nd option? I was planning to roll on Roccia since i also have Cammelya and they're the only 2 dps i have atm
@@zarathustra_1 you could just play Yinlin in Jinhsi team and go pull for Roccia. That way your account is gonna get more stronger cause Roccia is the best support for Camellya and will not be replaced by another support. She's a dedicated Havoc dmg and basic atk buffer btw
Zhezhi on the other hand can still be replaced in Jinhsi teams if a dedicated spectro dmg buffer will be released.
@@zarathustra_1 its just a matter of preferance, Camellya will be stronger with Roccia but she has Sanhua to buff her as strong alternative, while Jinhsi rotation is better with Zhezhi but her alternative support is Yuanwu is worse but there's also Taoqi but cant build her forte gauge, Yinlin can be used on Jinhsi team but like Yuanwu she is just there to build her forte. As for their looks and character designs and other stuff, thats for you to decide.
Is it still possible to use zhizhi without a sign?
Yea
Yes, she is mostly used for buff of course it is good if she does damage but as long as you get good echos even with a 4 star wep you should be fine
@@Jean03-q6hthat's Crazy She's been my main DPS this whole time I prefer her Over Changli.
@@GenryuSaito i mean if you build her as dps she will hurt a lot, i heard she is viable as dps so good for you man, whats important is to have fun
@@Jean03-q6h This is my first time actually looking into a guide and seeing how people saw her I literally had no idea she was used as a buffer.
Maybe also add Youhu as the healer?
pog
Guide is good but the jump cancel isnt new
Iam quite lukcy in this patch 😊 40 pity rate on pulling Carlotte within 30 pulls then 20 pulls got signature. Next day try my luck 10 pulls from current patch event aesterite and got Zhenshi😅
Who tf is zhenshi
@@zerefuuutvnever heard Calchinlin?
@legionssb who tf is that. Sounds like ochinchin
Downvoted you for pointless brags.
Ai voice?
My slow ass brain can't keep up with the new tech, jumping is hard
Skill issue. Can totally relate
Same here honestly they make it look so easy on PC and now PlayStation then on mobile😅
Me who skipped carlotta for her 😭
Is she pretty much yelan from genshin? I just started this game so her kit was kinda confusing
> jump cancel rotation faster by like 0.5 sec
> 20% more damage
make it make sense homie...
Nothings changed, dont matter if shes not useful in the end game
What bro she's literally T0 endgame 😂
Man i reall wanna watch the video, but this AI voice.
activate your windows man
activate windows
This coment😂😂
Jump cancel frr I know it aready y’all late
Fr😂
Nice bro
First comment
Another guide written by someone who does not even bother to play character it seems.
wdym
elaborate?
A written guide that has math and data backing stat priorities, and a CORRECT rotation with even animation canceling tech>
Elaborate
@@Raydr62 1. Liberation is not her main damage sourse, on;y accounting for 40% of damage. 2. She requires 0% extra ER 3. E jump cancels is fun, but yields no extra dps, not to mention he did not perfom them correctly. 4. Not even her best rotation.
Just another child of prydwen.
@@Crazmuss I can tell you don't know what you're talking about either lol
E jump canceling yields about a ful second faster rotation. Saves you about 5-6 seconds in total which is not needed but its optimization none the less.
Her main damage source IS her ultimate. It accounts for over 80% of her damage. Even moreso with her new cordinated attack set
For the last 5 months every single guide posted on youtube and online suggests 23% energy regen on her from substats. That same energy substat has also been on nearly all of her clears in end game that have been posted lol.
Is it still possible to use zhizhi without a sign?
Yes she is still good without her signature weapon