@@divus2027mandate lucidity/swiftness dark seal moonstone and mejais if I get stacks or the game is over usually after moonstone or the mejais usually
I think you are over recommending echoes helia. Personally, I use it as a more defensive option in very difficult lanes where I need more survivability, ie naut-samira, where going mandate will just make me so squishy that any hook results in death 100-0 before samira w ends. This is predicated on bone plating + unflinching; I will outscale a naut with or without revitalize, so imo, I NEED to live, at least long enough to bubble. Not getting hooked is impractical to consider imo, since I'll be flashed on at some point, and I think it's crucial to give myself the best shot at living whenever naut pulls the trigger. If I'm not under some constant threat of naut/pyke, then imperial mandate just does more damage, and the move speed it grants allows my carries to snowball harder, so I really wouldn't consider echoes of helia, and I don't see a reason to consider it before mandate. Do you think I'm missing something here? I very much appreciate the dark seal mention. If I'm wining lane, it feels like the game becomes so free off dark seal stacks, and nami is very good at winning lane :D
i appreciate the work you put into these - i had watched coaching videos before but your videos were the ones that developed my interest in the game into a deeper appreciation of league as a team sport and as a continuous struggle to improve. you taught me a new way to love a game i had already been playing for years - thanks dude
Hi Coach Cupake, thank you for another detailed video! I personally think you're the best support coach on yt atm and I really enjoy your videos. Could you please make more "overly detailed" videos on different supports please? IMO those are genuinly the best, as they have so much information, explained in an efficient, easy to understand tone and I learn the most from those. I will be looking to join your support discord at some point for some coaching, thanks again, have a good one!
maybe my low elo dead-brain speaks for me but if enemy has pyke, nautilus or blitz and lane is unplayable for nami. engage supports just have a better options. i am a bronze 2 so my opinion doesn't count (my english is bad also)
25:15 Definitely true for any/most *support* champion(s), but I'm not sure if I'd want to apply this train of thought in JG or ADC or at least not for any role that generally wants to be wealthy to be impactful. It's a good concept to keep in mind for sure, but more often than not will probably lead to a lot more joint feeding and compensation oriented plays if not applied correctly for non-support roles. Just my 2c tho as a JG/ADC 2ndary player floating in NA Diamond~low Master for anyone who might happen to misunderstand you since the intended audience is obv for support players and you even mention refilling wards.
Thank you for the effort you put into your videos! I learn something new almost every time. Is it still Mandate first with high damage/early game ADC´s? Since you bought it before Helias in the Draven game. Or was there another reason for that?
Always look forward to your videos. Please keep up the hard work, you fill an important niche for us competitive minded support players looking for educational content.
Well detailed guide, cupcake :) thought processing is good in your explanation. Id like to mention something: Namis optimal(!) strategy depends alot on the games you put her in. Optimal in that case means: what strategy nets. me the highest winrate possible right now? This is sensible to : Ranked or normal. Solo or duo or full premade. Teamcomp/Matchup ect.. ect...And then optimal strategy can widly differ from game to game.
I have had alot of success with aery, manaflow, Transcendence, scorch, Revitalize, font of life. Mandate, echoes of helia, dawncore, cdr boots, dream maker
A big tatted up guy is not what I expected when I heard Nami & “coach cupcake”😂 respect🤝
It's like when "Juice Box" comes out of the clinker, you respeck
This Video randomly came up when i decided to Main Nami :D thanks for your effort and insight!
Good timing! Thanks for watching
I named my dog Nami
in general, the Helia numbers are way worse on Nami, compared to Janna and Milio... Not sure it's the best item for her
Agree! Proccing Helia is Not that easy.I prefer Mandate into Moonstone
@@divus2027mandate lucidity/swiftness dark seal moonstone and mejais if I get stacks or the game is over usually after moonstone or the mejais usually
@@left5645 I Choose the same. Following the Nami Guide from ShoDesu. Works really well!
I think you are over recommending echoes helia. Personally, I use it as a more defensive option in very difficult lanes where I need more survivability, ie naut-samira, where going mandate will just make me so squishy that any hook results in death 100-0 before samira w ends. This is predicated on bone plating + unflinching; I will outscale a naut with or without revitalize, so imo, I NEED to live, at least long enough to bubble. Not getting hooked is impractical to consider imo, since I'll be flashed on at some point, and I think it's crucial to give myself the best shot at living whenever naut pulls the trigger. If I'm not under some constant threat of naut/pyke, then imperial mandate just does more damage, and the move speed it grants allows my carries to snowball harder, so I really wouldn't consider echoes of helia, and I don't see a reason to consider it before mandate. Do you think I'm missing something here?
I very much appreciate the dark seal mention. If I'm wining lane, it feels like the game becomes so free off dark seal stacks, and nami is very good at winning lane :D
Epic, just when I added her to my pool as a secondary to Rakan! Thanks Coach
i feel that about getting bored and hitting a ward and then your team is doing the game deciding fight without you
How do I deal with fed assassin like shaco where wards don’t work
i appreciate the work you put into these - i had watched coaching videos before but your videos were the ones that developed my interest in the game into a deeper appreciation of league as a team sport and as a continuous struggle to improve. you taught me a new way to love a game i had already been playing for years - thanks dude
That's awesome to hear! Thanks for the comment :)
Hi Coach Cupake, thank you for another detailed video! I personally think you're the best support coach on yt atm and I really enjoy your videos. Could you please make more "overly detailed" videos on different supports please? IMO those are genuinly the best, as they have so much information, explained in an efficient, easy to understand tone and I learn the most from those. I will be looking to join your support discord at some point for some coaching, thanks again, have a good one!
The videos are called "overply explained" not "overly detailed" my bad! xd
I'm happy you find my content useful! I will definitely be making a return to over-explained soon :)
maybe my low elo dead-brain speaks for me but if enemy has pyke, nautilus or blitz and lane is unplayable for nami. engage supports just have a better options.
i am a bronze 2 so my opinion doesn't count
(my english is bad also)
Those hook champions absolutely give Nami the most trouble in lane. There are always adaptations and solutions we can find in this game though :)
Did the first strike nerf kill first strike nami or is it still good? Your video came out a few days before the patch i think
Yes first strike on enchanters is dead unfortunately.
first lol
25:15 Definitely true for any/most *support* champion(s), but I'm not sure if I'd want to apply this train of thought in JG or ADC or at least not for any role that generally wants to be wealthy to be impactful. It's a good concept to keep in mind for sure, but more often than not will probably lead to a lot more joint feeding and compensation oriented plays if not applied correctly for non-support roles.
Just my 2c tho as a JG/ADC 2ndary player floating in NA Diamond~low Master for anyone who might happen to misunderstand you since the intended audience is obv for support players and you even mention refilling wards.
Sure, like you said I meant for any support champion. Definitely would not want my laners doing this haha
Thank you for the effort you put into your videos! I learn something new almost every time. Is it still Mandate first with high damage/early game ADC´s? Since you bought it before Helias in the Draven game. Or was there another reason for that?
That was while I was testing 3 points W into E max with mandate rush, before I felt just how powerful Helia was on her :)
Always look forward to your videos. Please keep up the hard work, you fill an important niche for us competitive minded support players looking for educational content.
Thanks for the supportive message mate!
yay nami finally thank you
love Nami.
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very good! thanks
Thank you :)
Well detailed guide, cupcake :) thought processing is good in your explanation. Id like to mention something: Namis optimal(!) strategy depends alot on the games you put her in. Optimal in that case means: what strategy nets. me the highest winrate possible right now? This is sensible to : Ranked or normal. Solo or duo or full premade. Teamcomp/Matchup ect.. ect...And then optimal strategy can widly differ from game to game.
A great point to keep in mind in general!
I have had alot of success with aery, manaflow, Transcendence, scorch, Revitalize, font of life. Mandate, echoes of helia, dawncore, cdr boots, dream maker
Do you play Solo q, duo or alone?
@m4770 mostly solo/duo (My duo plays top/jungle tho) I play normals